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Submitted by Pozzle 638d ago | news

Capcom devs describe the 'long-distance romance' with Ninja Theory that led to DmC

The video-game industry is littered with stories of game developers in the U.S. and Europe trying to work with publishers in Japan and finding it a painful experience. While the collaboration between Capcom and England-based Ninja Theory wound up producing the fairly well-reviewed DmC: Devil May Cry, it was far from smooth sailing from start to finish for the three-year-long project. (DmC: Devil May Cry, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

Root  +   638d ago
We wanted a cheap reboot so we hired cheap devs....just like RE ORC with Slant Six
RuperttheBear  +   638d ago
I've been playing DMC on my pc, it's a great game.
zerocrossing  +   638d ago
No one is disputing that, it's just not a great DMC game.
RuperttheBear  +   638d ago
He said -

'We wanted a cheap reboot so we hired cheap devs'

They've delivered and made a great game, so he must be wrong. It wasn't a cheap reboot, it must have cost a load, and the devs made a great job out of it.

Your opinion of whether it is a great DMC game is subjective. But what he said is totally false.
InMyOpinion  +   638d ago
DMC fans would only be happy if they made a carbon copy of DMC 1.
Sevir  +   638d ago
Those same Fans that continue to bitch about this reboot
Got a carbon copy of DMC 1 and 3 in the form of DMC4 and they bitched about that too... DmC is rated higher than DMC4 its just funny to see really.

people can admit its a great game but not a great DmC game. That notion that DmC isn't a great DMC game is pure opinion and highly subjective to anyone's standards... Honestly if you fans say its action great game but not a great DMC game then somewhere along the line of gaming you lost it! DmC is an Action game first and foremost like the ones that came before it so if its a great action then the title has lived up to the expectations of the previous games n the franchise! And already its better than 2 games in the franchise
zerocrossing  +   638d ago
The fact that you think it's great is also entirely subjective, it doesn't make you right as much is it doesn't make me wrong.

The point a lot of people are missing is, regardless of the hair change and the arrogance of the dev team, many of the core fans still just don't like DmC because it lacks the appeal of the originals, as awful as DMC2 was at least it felt like a DMC game.

If you're new to the franchise and enjoy it fair enough, if you're a long time fan of the franchise and still find you enjoy DmC that's also fine, but don't try making out like DmC is an overall improvement on the franchise when it's just a different take on it that was bound to appeal more towards some than others.

DMC3 still stands head and shoulders over DmC as the better game, you're welcome to disagree but it was a much funner, more well polished and enjoyable game IMO.
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Blacktric  +   638d ago
"Your opinion of whether it is a great DMC game is subjective"

"They've delivered and made a great game,"

Oh God my head is spinning from too much "Knights Of The "Told" Republic" irony...

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"Those same Fans that continue to bitch about this reboot Got a carbon copy of DMC 1 and 3 in the form of DMC4 and they bitched about that too..."

A game that has tons of gameplay improvements and that runs on 60 FPS (opposed to 30 FPS of first DMC) is a carbon copy? Good one.

"DmC is rated higher than DMC4 its just funny to see really.""

Thinking ratings mean crap in the generation we are in and possibly the future ones...

ahahaha oh wow... And for someone who is keen to use the word "bitch" a lot, you seem to do a lot of that yourself.
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wishingW3L  +   638d ago
@Sevir what you lost is logical thinking. Try to use it... DmC and DMC are completely different games. =/

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Vergil killing a pregnant demon with a sniper. Dante saying F-bombs after every single line of dialogue. Mundus having sex with a demon. Combos that are almost on cruise control. Where are the equivalent of Lady or Trish? What happened with the quirky mood? DmC is really serious compared to the original games and it takes way too seriously.
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Do these things sound like a DMC game to you? Just take the names out and this is a completely new IP (hence why we say a bad DMC game). It was the same with FF13. No exploration, no towns, no NPC's, only corridors, lvl caps, no side-quests, etc. And FF not only had all of that but it innovated at the same time too on each new entry. It gave us new/good stories (now we have 3 FF13s!!), battle system, music, characters etc.
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VileAndVicious  +   638d ago
@zero

It's all about perspective, personally while I liked. DMC3 I never thought it was the best in series. IMO the original was, and that's were I think the division comes in. Most people that I know of that really enjoyed the original DMC also enjoyed DmC quite a bit. Because. It's closest to DMC in terms of atmosphere and game play. So for those that enjoyed the crazy super over the top frantic game play from the third and fourth installments might have issues with the reboot, as they play differently but that's always been the case when it comes to 1,2 and 3,4. IMO the core mechanicis still llargely the same.
zerocrossing  +   638d ago
@VileAndVicious

I do agree with you there.

DMC 2,3 and 4 weren't made by the same guy who created the 1st game, and after DMC2 flopped they probably felt like they needed to make a drastic change and that's probably why DMC3 and DMC4 felt more corny and over the top in comparison.

Like I said DmC is a great stand alone game but doesn't do much for me as a DMC game, I can see why other people would like it though so Im not going to say it's bad and just simply say it's not for me.
UnHoly_One  +   638d ago
I'd say it was a pretty good choice, considering they turned out the best Devil May Cry game of the whole series.

In my opinion of course.

~Eagerly awaiting the dozens of Disagrees I will soon have~
theWB27  +   638d ago
Because most of the people that will disagree with you..secretly bought, played, and loved the game. I've never understood why people complained about the new Dante. Because he was only ever "Dante" for 1.5 games. DMC3 and the little we got to play with him in DMC4. DMC1 and 2 he was nothing but silent emo character who looked different in each of the games.
zerocrossing  +   638d ago
Of course you'll get disagrees for that statement.

DmC has too much holding it back to be the best of the franchise, DMC3 still holds that crown IMO.
DragonKnight  +   638d ago
"considering they turned out the best Devil May Cry game of the whole series."

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! That was a goo... oh wait. Are you serious?

@theWB27: given that the sales of this game are the worst in the series so far, your assumption that most "secretly bought, played, and loved the game" is likely not the case.
Root  +   638d ago
"Because most of the people that will disagree with you..secretly bought, played, and loved the game"

Hey looks like we have Mystic Meg over here....will you tell me if I'll ever find love and where my house keys are.

"he was nothing but silent emo character who looked different in each of the games."

He is more of an emo douche bag now them he was then. Oh and he did talk he had better dialogue then "F*** You" "F*** You" "F*** You" <flip someone off here and here>

He looked different because he was younger/older
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Sevir  +   638d ago
Lmao! Yes Root yes.
Because "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIGHT" won soo man awards for best dialog! Dude give it a rest. quit pretending Capcom Made any of the past DMC games with any kind of remarkable or note worthy story and dialog anyone could follow without laughing at its inconsistencies. DMC games NEVER had anywhere near good dialog or a story you could follow.

You're grasping at straws because This current representation of Dante swears more than the silent character of yesteryears. keep focusing on one isolated instance in the game where he swears profusely! It doesn't represent the whole game.
Hozi  +   638d ago
The game is awesome. Who cares if Dante is a bit diff. looking. He's still kickass. Plus have you played it on PC?

They should allow NT to re creat Onimusha or Dino Crysis.
Minato-Namikaze  +   638d ago
Please don't mention ninja theory and onimusha. I really want to play a new onimusha.
ThanatosDMC  +   638d ago
They're gonna make Samanosuke look like Taneem.... lol
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Hozi  +   637d ago
@Minato-Namikaze

LOL...Only reason I mention it is because Capcom don't seem to have time to do it. I'd rather NT make it than not get anything at all. That's all.
zerocrossing  +   638d ago
double post
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Acquiescence  +   638d ago
Sometimes long distance romances work out after all it seems...
It's an excellent game. Already pining for a sequel.
theWB27  +   638d ago
@DragonKnight- most people that will disagree with his statement on this site. I didnt say this game has sold the most in the series. I highly doubt the amount of people that will comment on this article and disagree with him would tip the scale of sales overall.
DragonKnight  +   638d ago
Irrelevant. I disagree, and I don't now nor ever intend to own this game. Even if it were given to me as a gift I wouldn't put it in my console and I know enough people feel the same way. You're making an assumption that is impossible to prove and is more likely to be false than true. Especially if we extrapolate from the general sales reception that exists right now, we can see that the fans saying they aren't going to buy this game are sticking to that.
theWB27  +   638d ago
Its irrelavant that you misconstrued my comment. This is my last bubble. Im making an assumption then you turn around and do the same by saying its more likely to be false than true. You want to go by sales when the economy is worse....most of the DMC fans from years past have grown up with responsibilities and use their money for other things. Could it be that Dante isnt the same character to the younger generation than it was back then. You're also making an assumption with knowing enough people wont...is this just your circle of friends?? Or you going off the internet where people spout their hate but do you HONESTLY know these same people didnt go buy it anyway?
DragonKnight  +   638d ago
It is more likely to be false than true when the numbers say that, so far, DmC is the worst selling game in the series. That means more people AREN'T buying it than are. That's what you call a guess backed by numbers, not by sentiment.

"You want to go by sales when the economy is worse....most of the DMC fans from years past have grown up with responsibilities and use their money for other things."

Copout argument to avoid the truth. If people can buy CoD or Halo 4, they can buy DmC.

"Could it be that Dante isnt the same character to the younger generation than it was back then. "

Also irrelevant. Dante means nothing to the new generation, hence he doesn't affect sales to the people unfamiliar with the series. You're the one talking about haters secretly buying this game, haters that know the history of the series.

"You're also making an assumption with knowing enough people wont...is this just your circle of friends?? Or you going off the internet where people spout their hate but do you HONESTLY know these same people didnt go buy it anyway?"

Rather than go into a long explanation of who I know that's not buying it and why, I'll tell you that not only do I know, actually know, people who aren't going to buy this game due to a myriad of reasons, but I also know people who have removed people from the PSN friendlist just because said friend bought DmC.

You are underestimating the fans of the older series, and overestimating the desire for DmC.
Alos88  +   638d ago
I can't help but think that some of the hate for DMC could have been avoided if Taneem hadn't badmouthed the original games like an idiot.
TongkatAli  +   638d ago
This
Kyosuke_Sanada  +   638d ago
Agreed, if him and most developers this generation kept a cork in their gob then a lot of these releases would have been much better off. Alas, too many of them think they are celebrities and contributes to the reason why the gaming industry will never be taken seriously.
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ThanatosDMC  +   638d ago
Well also the fact that they watered down the best DMC gameplay combat from DMC4 Dante doesnt help. Style switching on the fly was a godly ability that made DMC4 Dante so awesome.
wishingW3L  +   638d ago
like Adam Jensen would say: I never asked for this.

Capcom only thought that if they let a western dev develop the new DMC game that sales would be higher but that wasn't the case. lol
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ThyMagicSword  +   638d ago
What an offense of a game, the new design for Dante looks cheaper than cheap. No, just no ...the ugliness of this game penetrates my pc-screen, just ugly.
shahrukh339  +   638d ago
DMC is a critical hit, furthermore fans loved it, hack i loved it more than dmc 4 which was piss poor crap.. No Story Poor Camera angels, Just action .... this generation of gamers i filled with retards..

Just like COD, People dont want stories and chracterization in games, they want to just go out and go baam baam baam boom boom boom... no wonder micheal bay movies are a success because of you kids. '

The new DMC is great in many people opinion and a flop in other many... now stop bithcing about it and move on people..

Furthermore, guys please give credit to Ninaja Theory as they worked hard and tried there best for this reboot plus go play Enslaved-The last Odesy you will love the game its narrative and understand how good ninja theory is with the graphics the game play and most importantly the story telling.
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ThyMagicSword  +   638d ago
No, it does not depend on what you or I want, it depends on what the mass wants, that kind of thinking has ruined the new DMC. It looks like the developers surfed on Facebook to look what is "cool/in and trendy" these days and baam baam baam boom boom boom, they made a shitty game.
shahrukh339  +   638d ago
hahaha ok from now on i wont way DMC is a great or good game and you wont say it is a shitty game.. just say you didint liked it becasue OBVIOUSLY it is not a shitty game with nearly every reviewer in the entire gaming industry is scoring it above 8 or 8.

And Please before the though comes into your mind.. CAPCOM can not PAY all the reviewers in the world to score it high and had not payed me either to love this SHITTY game according to you.
Root  +   638d ago
"DMC is a critical hit, furthermore fans loved it"

Despite the reviews spending half the review trying to sell you the game instead of reviewing it or calling the "haters". Funny how most good reviews are the same...oh and most fans loved it....thats news to me.

"Furthermore, guys please give credit to Ninaja Theory as they worked hard and tried there best for this reboot "

LOL....no they didn't they spent most the time calling the original Dante, creator, old fans, the game play, the story, the voice acting etc and then were arrogant and ignorant about the whole thing.

"And Please before the though comes into your mind.. CAPCOM can not PAY all the reviewers in the world to score it high"

They can pay them in other ways...freebies, press kits, free tips to their offices for interviews.

Not too mention they could always threaten the big sites increase they don't give the site/mag exclusive info on their next new game.

Smaller sites usualy follow the big sites anyway, so they didn't have to "pay off" all of them.
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MikeMyers  +   638d ago
What reality do you live in? I have DMC on my PC and guess what, it's actually a fun game. Of course this is coming from someone who doesn't believe in conspiracy theories and wear a tinfoil hat before clicking on the latest review.

You are what I call a professional poster. In just 44 days you have allocated more than 500 posts. That is more than 10 per day. What that tells me is you are very serious about getting your point across. Reading those comments also have a common theme to it, fear-mongering. If you're so unhappy with how gaming is going then maybe you take up a new hobby. You complain and whine about everything and want to have some sort of underground movement going on by compiling a bunch of people together to fight the industry.

The problem with that is not everyone shares your feelings. Not everyone wants to click on an article to read about how Tomb Raider is only to find you there blasting away about how this isn't Tomb Raider, it's some noobified shell of it. Only to find out you never actually played the whole game, just like DMC.
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VileAndVicious  +   638d ago
Smh Root....you still on this "DmCs Reviews were bought" non-sense? Just stop dude.
ThanatosDMC  +   638d ago
DmC is the COD problem. It's been casualized. SSS ranking is so easy, enemies dont fight back, hand holding combos, terrible AI, platforming, etc. DMC4 had the best gameplay mechanics in the series.
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ThyMagicSword  +   638d ago
For me it remains shitty, do not care about the reviewers. Is it great for you? Well, great for you and CAPCOM. More great for Capcom, they gently accept your money.
elda  +   638d ago
I don't care what people say about DmC especially the negative comments.DmC is a great game,I've enjoyed them all except 4.DMC needed some spice & this reconstruction or reboot of DMC is refreshing IMO it plays LIKE a DMC game & NT did a good job developing the game & because it's not selling well doesn't mean it's not a good game. @MikeMyers.....WELL SAID!!
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Knushwood Butt  +   637d ago
Someone should have told them long distance relationships never work out.

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