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Wii U: Nintendo 'Got It Wrong With This Console' - Pachter

NowGamer: Industry analyst Michael Pachter believes Nintendo 'got it wrong' and will have to cut the price of the Wii U to keep hardware sales up.

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Root1661d ago (Edited 1661d ago )

They didn't get it wrong, its just that this is what Nintendo should of made this gen, not for next gen

Theres nothing wrong with the console it's self

I would of loved to see what Nintendo would come up with for next gen if the Wii U was released this gen. Wind Waker HD.....pffft we woud probably have most Zelda titles remade by now.

LOGICWINS1661d ago

"its just that this is what Nintendo should of made this gen, not for next gen"

Ummm yeah..THATS where they got it wrong lol.

sdozzo1661d ago

We knew what he meant.

NewMonday1661d ago

this will be like another Gamecube

Army_of_Darkness1661d ago (Edited 1661d ago )

"They didn't get it wrong, its just that this is what Nintendo should of made this gen, not for next gen"

yeah getting that part wrong is a pretty big mistake if you ask me lol!
I'm getting the feeling that nintendo was totally trying to pull another wii trick, weakest console out of the 3 but much cheaper for all! Not sure if it will work the second time around though;-) lol

tehpees31661d ago (Edited 1661d ago )

@ newmonday

Nothing like Gamecube. Gamecube came last to market and got compared to PS2's onslaught of quality titles.

Theyellowflash301661d ago

Nothing like early panicking to write off a console. They got the 3DS wrong too didn't they?

ZombieNinjaPanda1661d ago

@Newmonday

Except it's been reported that the WiiU has already sold more than what the Ps3 or 360 did in the same time frame.

http://www.gamesradar.com/w...

AsimLeonheart1661d ago

The truth is that the Wii U isnt attracting and impressing consumers. Nintendo is in a really bad position right now. Nintendo fans do not want to believe it but here read these two recent articles. May be they will finally open your eyes.

http://online.wsj.com/artic...

http://finance.yahoo.com/ne...

blackbeld1660d ago

Its Michael Pachter theory..... and he always wrong.

So who cares what he say.

Nintendo already sells 3 million WiiU in 3 months.

Dutch site link. Use Google translate if you can not read dutch.

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/...

BattleAxe1660d ago (Edited 1660d ago )

"newmonday
"this will be like another Gamecube"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

The Nintendo GameCube sold 22 Million worldwide, but I think that would be a best case scenario with the WiiU.

Heres a quote from the Wikipedia page for Sega, which talks about the brief history of the Dreamcast, which is what I think the WiiU is destined to become as history begins to repeat itself:

"On November 27, 1998, Sega launched the Dreamcast game console, Sega's final console, in Japan. The Dreamcast was competitively priced, partly due to the use of off-the-shelf components, but it also featured technology that allowed for more technically impressive games than its direct competitors, the Nintendo 64 and PlayStation. An analog 56k modem was also included, allowing gamers to play multi-player games online on a home console for the first time, featuring titles such as the action-puzzle title Chu Chu Rocket, Phantasy Star Online, the first console-based MMORPG, and the innovative Alien Front Online, the first console game with online voice chat."

"The Dreamcast's launch in Japan was a failure. Launching with a small library of software and in the shadow of the upcoming PS2, the system would not gain great success, despite several successful games in the region. The Western launch a year later was accompanied by a large amount of both first-party and third-party software and an aggressive marketing campaign."

"It was extremely successful and earned the distinction of "most successful hardware launch in history," selling a then-unprecedented 500,000 consoles in its first week in North America.[22] On November 1, 2000, Sega changed its company name from Sega Enterprises, Ltd. to Sega Corporation.[23] Sega was able to hold onto this momentum in the US almost until the launch of Sony's PlayStation 2. The Dreamcast is home to several innovative and critically acclaimed games of the time."

"Faced with debt and competition from Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft, Sega discontinued the Dreamcast hardware in 2001. The final game Sega released for it was Puyo Puyo Fever in 2004."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

The Sega Dreamcast went on to sell 11 million units.

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JP13691661d ago (Edited 1661d ago )

For future reference, try to use more definite terms when describing each generation, rather than those of a more relative nature. Your post seems a bit garbled after becoming twisted by before and after thinking.

On topic: As long as they start releasing games like those shown at the latest Nintendo Direct, they'll be fine. Doom and gloom prophecies always pop up when any product makes a slower than expected start. They did it with the PS3 and the 3DS, and both of those turned out alright. Nintendo always has their faithful, they just need to start convincing everyone else.

vallencer1661d ago

Sweet baby jesus Root.....I actually agree with. Regardless though I believe Nintendo will do just fine and I know your comment wasn't a doom comment I was just saying. For me though I'm just excited to FINALLY have HD Nintendo anything haha. Even if it is late.

DA_SHREDDER1661d ago

Agreed, who cares what the COD/Madden crowd thinks? I want my mario, zelda, metroid, and everything else in HD. I can't wait to get the money to buy one, I will forsure when they release DQX or X (by the Xeno devs)

dakunclear1660d ago

I will buy one as well once Wind Waker HD comes out that is so hopefully by then they will add a bigger harddrive in it

user39158001661d ago

Big N always been on focus with hardware that give them insentive from hardware sales, but that mentality has ceased with the wiiu. They forgot innovation with low spec hardware, you cant bring comparable hardware to ps3 and 360 and call it next gen 8 years later, cause its nothing more than lack of vision. Patchter its the 1 person I never listen to cause all his prediction in gaming has been off beat lol... Althought I give him credit for having the tenancy of saying whats on his mind, its ridiculous to listen to him when he cant get it right most times. This time around his got it right, WII-U its a failure that needs a price drop, problem is their growth will not be substantial even with a price drop, cause PS4 AND 720 will put an end to the high sales in which this case are exceeding ly low. Good luck WII-U, your demise its in the next corner right besides gamecube, Dreamcast said hi.

Oh_Yeah1661d ago (Edited 1661d ago )

I'll put it out there, for all those gamers who look down on the wii u. Okay first, who's buying a wii u to play multi plats? Did you hear that? I don't hear no one, all I hear is crickets. It doesn't have to be as powerful as ps4/720. Alright now, what we have is a console about twice the power of the current gen, whether you want to Label that next gen or not doesn't matter, it's an hd console from nintendo which is going to be delivering a dozen or more great 1st party titles you won't be able to get anywhere else...GAMES people. Can you say that about the next xbox? Will it have a bunch of exclusives? Ahh that's very doubtful. Wii u already has Mario, Xenoblades 2, pikmin 3, monster hunter 3 ultimate, a new Earthbound, Zelda, smash bros... All these are known to be in development or nearing release. That's already more exclusives than Microsoft had for the 360 all gen. Come on people don't downplay the wii u.. The hardware is good enough to deliver a bunch of nintendo exclusives on a scale that hasn't been seen before and that's what matters.

broken_back-man1661d ago

I cant beleive peopke disagreed with you, all these peopke that are sayibg I like my nintendo 1st party titles in hd, but what about when mario gets old or zelda or metriod? a crap load of 3rd party devs have dropped supporting Nintendo crytek already refused to release crysis 3 for the wiiu, plus Nintendo fanboys claim a huge flaw as innovation, hahaha can only use 1 tablet controller at a time and they call it Asymmetrical game play? I would rather play a counsle that can handle more than 1 good controller at once and has nore than 32 gigs of hd space and that atleast has a dvd player not to mention the tablet cobtroller almost costs 200 bucjs give me a break!!!!! nintendo failed by being cocky because the wii sold because it was cheap and fat peopke want to lose weight.... . ps4/next box are going to rip nintendo' s market right out from under them!!

Trenta271661d ago

They just need to give the console time. The games that came out when the 360 and PS3 released? Almost complete crap. When the Wii U has a few years on it, the games will be incredible.

Kurt Russell1660d ago

Yeah but when the 360 and PS3 were launched they had no other competition. The WiiU is struggling to compete with 6-7 year old consoles... When successors to the current gen are announced how on earth is it going to keep interest?

Zhipp1660d ago

@Kurt Russell(lol)
The 360 in it's first year was competing with the PS2. Of course, back then we had already seen Nintendo and Sony's next consoles, but still.

Root1661d ago (Edited 1661d ago )

I don't really see why people are getting confused what I've said

Next gen is the Wii U, PS4 and the Nextbox, I can't say the Wii U is this gen despite it being out since next gen hasn't fully started yet

This gen is the Wii, PS3, Xbox 360

So by saying the Wii U should of been this gen, it should of been the console made instead of the Wii to compete against the PS3 and Xbox 360

I don't see how that's confusing...

CouldHaveYelledUiiW1661d ago

lol

It happens all of the time. People are on HIGH Troll Alert and they shoot 1st and ask questions never.

Pachter is just guessing. Like every journalist thought that the Vita was going to smash 3DS.

We will see what happens.

If people think that once PS4 and 720 hit the market, Nintendo won't have any tricks to make the WiiU more attractive- they live in La-La Land.

I expect Sony and Microsoft to be smarter with price, but Nintendo has gotten smarter too.

Danteh1660d ago

Please, STOP with the "Should of"!!! I've not a grammar nazi nor even a native english speaker, but when did that crap start? I learned to say "should have" when I was at 1st grade English class... wtf?

profgerbik1660d ago

Again not even crapping on the Wii U but can we quit the whole Wii U is next generation stuff. It is Nintendo's next generation console other than that it does not tie into a generation that redefines gaming as we know it with real advancements.

When the Wii U is being compared to nothing but 7 year old systems and is literally doing nothing new software wise stuff we still see being done with older systems and sadly in some cases the older systems are even doing more software wise like Metro: Last Night than the Wii U, it's kind of hard to ever accept it as a real next generation system when it barely outperforms the ones from the last generation.

Especially when no one here actually knows what the PS4 or 720 will even have let alone what they will bring to the table.

To me a new generation is not just defined by when things come out but something that literally creates an entirely different standard than what we currently have. To me the Wii U is doing nothing more really than what the PS3 and Xbox 360 offer and honestly I don't think it ever will make that big of a difference between them.

Of course over time games on the Wii U will get better no doubt just like they did on other consoles but it's hardware is the limiting factor that literally makes sure it will never outperform them by any significant means. It barely skates by now.

All the Wii U has in it's arsenal is a slightly newer graphics card with RAM that isn't as fast and a processor that really doesn't even touch the 360's or PS3's. Regardless I think that is Nintendo's own mistake for always being so behind hardware wise, now they have two consoles in one generation and as you said the Wii U should have been the Wii because the Wii really didn't even touch the Xbox 360 or PS3 in terms of quality. So it was hard to even classify that as a system that competed with that generation if you asked me the Wii was in it's own generation just like the Wii U basically is but that is Nintendo's fault for never caring that much about hardware.

People think that is all I care about but nope, I just care about balance and I believe a balance between good hardware and software is the way to go, not just focusing on one or the other.

@CouldHaveYelledUiiW What planet do you live on, every journalist saying the Vita would smash the 3DS? What a load.. The Vita has been hated probably more than any portable to have existed for some mad reason but it has more hate circulated around it than anything and that was before it was even released.

@Danteh You have some serious issues. You can't even speak proper english yet you are attempting to correct others enlish? Saying "I've not a grammar nazi" is by far worse than saying "Should of"..

MEsoJD1661d ago

It's really what the Wii should have been(imo). Now the competitors have a head start with hd since this is Nintendo's first.

UnholyLight1661d ago

That's exactly what Pachter is saying. From a Business perspective it was the wrong idea. Ya know, Pachter isn't always a retard hahahah! He's kind of like the Kevin O'Leary (Asshole realist Dragon's Den billionaire) of speaking with Investors. He has to tell investors what he believes they should be doing with their money and in this case I think he is right.

Personally, I keep telling my dad to invest in Microsoft or Sony. Mostly Microsoft because their future is always going to be mega profitable basically, and Sony is a little harder to figure out at this time. Seriously people! With all this pent up demand, you gotta be stupid not to buy stock in Microsoft it's gonna go up like crazy when they announce it and it comes out!!!

ZoyosJD1660d ago (Edited 1660d ago )

Sony stock prices bottomed out in from a 5+ year all time low in December at about $10 (should have bought then)...they are currently sitting around $15.

MS bottomed out around early 2009 for the last 5 years, and their prices are high considering they are losing market share on all fronts.

As far as I see Sony would be a better long term investment since they recently bottomed out and are restructuring.

MS stocks have been rather erratic as of late wait for them to slide down, but buy before they announce Windows 9 and sell afterwards.

Nintendo bottom out at the beginning and end of each console and hit a high point about 1.5-2 years later. Now would be a great time to invest. Even if the Wii U only does gamecube numbers you could double your money with the right timing.

3-4-51661d ago

“The hardware guidance is disappointing, and there isn’t really anything that will get hardware moving other than a price cut. I think they got it wrong with this console, it just doesn’t capture the imagination the way that the Wii did.”

^ This explains Why he doesn't get it. read the first sentence.

Pachter just said he doesn't think :

* 3D Mario Game, Yoshi's Yarn, Super Smash Brothers, Wind Waker HD , NEW Legend of Zelda Game, Fire Emblem X SMT , Mario Kart..........

Pachter doesn't think any of those will sell units...

Only a price cut will.

This is 100% evidence as to why he doesn't " Get it "....when it comes to video games.

This isn't Wall street.....we the gamers aren't demanding a financial report every quarter....We just want good games when they are released and we will support them.

It's not hard.

Pachter has no patience....just like the rest of the corporate "elite"

bicfitness1661d ago

Can you tell me the release dates on those? Not even half will make it out this year in Japan even.

metroid321661d ago

Stop talking rubbish all 3 nextgen consoles have dx11 comparable graphics END OF there will be no winner in graphics it will be who ever has the best vision ?????

broken_back-man1661d ago

nintendo is going to get raped in graphics by nextbox/ps4 give it up