Nintendo has released its results for this quarter.
only 2 months since the console launched not bad
Not at all. I think it was a world wide release too, right? If so, it's pretty impressive they were able to pull that off. I haven't been too impressed with the Wii U so far but Xenoblade 2 blew my mind. I don't even know if theres an RPG coming that I want more, maybe FFvs13 if it's not vaporware or headed to the next gen.
tell me how much the vita sold world wide in an 11month period? yea... Sony deems that a success. wiiu does in 2 months what vita cant #oldschoolsega
That includes launch amounts though its not gonna hit the 6 million by March originally forecasted by Nintendo. It's done okay but I still fell once next gen consoles are announced its gonna be in trouble. I think its why they announced so much last week.
Was 5.5 million but think that's been cut back down, still good when the economy isn't doing good and it's the highest priced console at the moment
@Gamer1982 It was 5.5 million (opps BIGTAMR posted before me) They lowered it to 4 million.
Don't want to sound too doom & gloom; but the Dreamcast (which had a great collection of core games & unique features), was released in a similar position between console generation. It sold great at first, hitting 500,000 sales in it's first two weeks, but peaked out at 10.6 million lifetime sales before it's cancellation... In this economy, with Sony & MS's next consoles on the horizon, the Wii U faces an uncertain future .
"In this economy, with Sony & MS's next consoles on the horizon, the Wii U faces an uncertain future." There's this but also, nobody I know in the real world (by that I mean not on the net) seems to know that the Wii U is a new console. I told a few buddies a couple of weeks ago that I had picked it up for Christmas and most had not even heard of it while those that did thought it was just an add-on for the Wii. Maybe Nintendo could market it a bit better. A price drop would not change the fact that a lot of people don't even know that it exists.
@Johnydolls - WTF are you talking about ? Sega were in a really really really really bad situation financialy , Nintendo are not. Had Sega sold 150Million Gameegears and 100M Sega saturns before they made the dreamcast ? no. Please don't be stupid. Nintendo is a financial powerhouse right now , and they can more than afford the Wiiu to sell Gamecube Numbers , as long as they don't lose money from the whole thing nothing changes. Nobody can afford to bleed money out of the ass like Sony did with PS3 however. But Seriously , Nintendo is far far far from trouble right now. The Wii is still selling and making them money , The 3DS is starting to sell fast , and the Wiiu is selling faster than PS3 and 360 did at their launch. I think Wiiu Will do better once 720 and ps4 arrive , cus if they're expensive powerhouses people are gunna choose the Wiiu. Right now people are buying $150 360's instead of $300 Wiiu's . Simple. In short , Do not underestimate Nintendo and do not compare them to Sega as that's like comparing chalk and cheese.
I thought they announced games because their hadn't been any announce. I guess any attempt at doing anything whatsoever at anytime is now considered a desperate attempt, and an act done in "fear" of Sony and Microsoft. Just goes to show, that no matter what Nintendo does, its wrong as far as the gaming population at large is concerned.
The other 2 Nextgen consoles will fail miserably my guess is if WiiU is struggling so will the other 2,i also think WiiU would have sold at least 15 million units worldwide by the time the other 2 hit the market,that's going off themm hitting at year end if they leave it another year it will be impossible as WiiU will inevitably start selling bucket load come year end,i also know for a fact when Nintendo release Monster Hunter and Lego City in the UK consoles will fly off the shelves NFS MW Enhanced edition will help as well. In fact LegoCity will help Nintendo hit that 6 million by mid april and hit 1 million in the UK very quickly,as the Lego brand here in the UK is massive. Also all Nintendo have to do is show MarioKart HD then announce its coming to the UK in dec and that will make the WiiU trample on anything out there.
Kingofwiiu: Never once did I say that Nintendo as a parent company is in trouble, but rather the Wii U faces uncertain times. Because when sales forecasts are dramatically cut, you know the console is not hitting it's initial predictions. Which comes down to the aforementioned factors; consumers are harder pressed financially & are holding out to see what the competition have to offer before committing to new hardware. As to not comparing Nintendo to Sega; in the early 90's when the MegaDrive & Sonic were major names in the industry, few could have predicted their demise as console manufacturer only half a decade later. It could even happen to Nintendo, Sony or MS in a few years. The PS3, whilst still bizarrely considered a commercial failure by some gamers, still outsold the N64's lifetime sales at 2:1...and the GC nearly 4:1, so hardly the best example to use! That's not to say that the N64 (alongside the PS2) is one of the greatest consoles of all-time!
with all the hipsters playing games on iphones all the pc techies waiting for ouya and steam box all while gaming on the pc and the casuals converted to tablet gaming do you really think sony and Microsoft wont be in "trouble" as well wiiu will be at 7m Mill come December 2013 what does it matter how it performs in historically dry months feb-august, you think thats magically gonna change?
jony_dols, While the PS3 may have sold several times more than the GC did, it means very little since Nintendo made a profit on every single GC they sold. For the last decade, Sony has taken a loss more years than they have made a profit on their gaming division. So, while I don't think the PS3 is a commercial failure, it really is mostly a success due to the entertainment it's provided, and steps forward made for console gaming. Not the money it's made the company. As for the Sega comment. I think the point was that Sega was in a much weaker FINANCIAL position (there goes that money thing again - darn business) when they were forced out of the console business. Though personally I don't think that anyone will ever reproduce that string of failures again in gaming. Back then it felt like every week,, Sega was coming out with a new plug in for the Genesis, or a new console, or some sort of something or other to try and stop the bleeding but failed. Every console company going right now, is FAR from such a thing. Though I doubt it seriously that shareholders will allow Sony and MS to sell at a big loss again for any extended amount of time with their next consoles.
So far as it stands for Q3 only: Nintendo - $450 million in profit (DS, 3DS, Wii, Wii U) Microsoft - $596 million in profit (Xbox 360) SONY - TBD
isnt those MS profit goes for all of their entertainment division and not just xbox 360?
The EDD has Windows Phone 8 and Skype besides Xbox 360. These products might have a huge potential, but are not the biggest moneymakers just yet. WinPhone could actually post a loss. So yeah, the 596 is for the whole EDD, but very mainly driven by the Xbox.
Hehehe, it's so funny, when EDD is down or doesn't post a profit Xbox 360 is said to be the main contributor and blamed round these here parts. But when EDD posts mega profit everything else but xbox is given credit. Suddenly xbox business is no longer the main part of EDD. What's even funnier is that NOBODY would ever admit that windows phone 8 is doing well until admitting it would mean xbox 360 isn't doing as well it is. Hehehe, hypocrisy in action, I love it. I mean are you people for real? You do realise that xbox live alone contributes $1 billion in revenue(not profit though) per year right? Truth remains people, Microsoft profits in the games department are greater than Nintendo for the last quarter. SONY remains to be seen but holding one's breath for their victory is ill-advised
Lookey here http://redmondpost.com/2011... $8.176 billion revenue for entire EDD in 2011 and $8.107 billion of it came from Xbox business. My mathematics says only $69 million came from elsewhere. That's 0.9% meaning EDD revenue is 99.1 % Xbox 360. It seems I stand corrected Nintendo - $450 million in profit (DS, 3DS, Wii, Wii U) Microsoft - $530 million in profit (Xbox 360) shaved off $60 million which is 10% roughly instead of 6 million which would have been roughly 1% SONY - TBD I hope you guys can forgive my mistake there.
3ds is making buckets of cash 360 can't come close mate ???
Don't come here with facts, research and logic. People don't like that. :P
&Good_Guy_Jamal Very well said. unfortunately, logic is lost 90% of the time on N4g.
Even though the ps3 was a lot more expensive. Example: By March 31 2007 (3 days afetr European luanch) PS3 had SHIPPED 5 million. Which was considered failure even back then not compensating for the insane asking price. Why should Wii U be considered "not bad" even forgetting the overall growth of the console market. Besides that, people seem to think Playstation's loss of home console market share from one generation to the next is something to gloom about. How about what looks to be an outstanding loss of market share from Wii to WiiU by Nintendo. I'd like to ask why such an opposing view on two different console launches when both are similarly performing (like I said not even counting difference in price and market growth, which should favor Nintendo in this case). The ps3 arguably performed better when considering it wasn't available worldwide until 3 months - it sold VERY similarly in the same time frame - and it was deemed failure on arrival. I have complete faith the WiiU could turn it around similarly as well, but it will not regain the market share it enjoyed with the Wii. Oh yeah, DID I MENTION A PRICE DROP?? Do they expect me to pay 300+ for a upgraded 360 with a pad controller?! SOUURCE FOR SALES DATA: http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi... (further source on page) PS. I'm ready and waiting for your downvotes, fanboys of N4G.
you calling someone a fanboy hahaha and I thought mika and akuma etc were the morons @_@
Wow, I have no choice but to respect such an intelligent response to my original comment. I'm in a tough position to argue but, well, here goes... First of all I wasn't cheerleading for ps3 nor spelling doom for Nintendo. Simply pointing to the hypocrisy of fanboys. "The WiiU will win the generation" coming from Nintendo fans when it doesn't seem to be fairing any better than the early ps3 which was met with "lol Playstation is dead". Seems funny considering the WiiU can barely (BARELY) squeak by the Wii in sales numbers when Wii has seen the slippery slope for 3 years now. Also consider that sony's sales forecast in the period which led to 5 million shipped was *6 million* (only relevant time period I have since this is when the ps3 was officially available ww). Means the forecast was missed by 1m, horrible launch right? Nintendo's forecast was lowered (for the SECOND time - but for relevance we'll stick to the latest forecast) to 4 million from *5.5m*. Missed the mark by 1.5. To Rose Tinted Shaders this says: "Outstanding launch!" Is the WiiU dead? Of course not. Does it need a price cut? YES! Like I said earlier -- no way I'm paying 300$ for an ugraded 360 (and in some ways downgraded; UI i'm looking at you) with a pad controller.
Nintendo loses money on every Wii U sold. I doubt there will be a price cut until it's cheaper for them to produce. I can't speak for everyone but part of the reason some people say "not bad" to how the Wii U is selling is BECAUSE of the PS3. We experienced a similar phenomenon last gen and are less surprised this time. Also I don't think anyone actually thought the Wii U could replicate the Wii's success. I'm looking forward to seeing how the PS4 and 720 do. This will be an interesting generation.
@xursz I think it has to do with PS3 being made by Sony. PS2 demolished Dreamcast (in sales) so Dreamcast boss went to MS. MS's xbox was also demolished (in sales) by PS2 so these people grew themselves a grudge against Sony big time. Now with MS's headstart and arrogant PR people they finally found a chance to destroy Sony's PS3. That's why they've been so rabid. That's why they cannot find themself seeing that MS went for casuals and stopped getting them exclusive hc-games almost completely a few years back. That's why we have these claims that exclusives don't matter anymore or that this gen is over and such. They are way too cought up in their hate for anything Sony all they want is to see them in a bad light flip flopping from metacritic to sales to back to metacritic and finally to "exclusives don't matter" when ever it suits their agenda. I'm not saying PS3 fanboys are right. They are just as much to blame for all the BS in here but since I was here all those years and saw everything unfold before my own eyes there is no going around the fact that the entire console war regarding PS3 and x360 is/was caused by MS people. It was either the biased media or MS PR people or fanboys of this site who were always quick to judge doom on PS3 in every possible turn.
@insomnium Your approach to "fanboy wars" is very unique and i can see some truth in that. The media bias seems pretty skewed at some points where others get a free pass. For example, as I mentioned above, the WiiU's launch numbers are VERY similar if not wrse than ps3's, yet is deemed 'acceptable'. But this isn't really about that so, moving on. @ElectricKai Well then they should start considering it (insider tip: they already have) if they plan to be competitive. Imo it doesn't look good when your two largest competitors are consistently tearing you apart (for lack of more descriptive expression) in the sales department with old hardware which isn't much less expensive. To be fair we know the WiiU probably doesn't cost a lot more than 360/ps3 to manufacture not counting the Pad controller, so there is room to manuever. And if it means gaining market share there's no doubt it will happen.
They have to start making a profit on each Wii U before they have room to maneuver. http://arstechnica.com/gami... There probably will be a price cut but I bet they're going to wait to see if Rayman or the Wonderful 101 sells some consoles first. If not: price drop in the fall. You heard it here first.
insomnium2 wrote, "I think it has to do with PS3 being made by Sony. PS2 demolished Dreamcast (in sales) so Dreamcast boss went to MS. MS's xbox was also demolished (in sales) by PS2 so these people grew themselves a grudge against Sony big time." Who are 'these' people? What world do you live in where it's MS people, Sony people and Nintendo people? Can I ask you, if I walk down the street do they look different? Should I approach people at the bus stop and ask what kind of people they are? The reality is this, The PS2 dominated and both Nintendo and Microsoft have done much better creating parity this generation. That's it, end of story. The competitive market field has changed and Sony are no longer in control, nobody is. "Now with MS's headstart and arrogant PR people they finally found a chance to destroy Sony's PS3. That's why they've been so rabid. That's why they cannot find themself seeing that MS went for casuals and stopped getting them exclusive hc-games almost completely a few years back." Excuse me? Arrogant MS PR people? Funny how the whole gaming industry pointed to Sony, not Microsoft, about being arrogant coming into this generation. Going casual has also paid off for MS as Kinect has extended the life of the Xbox 360 and generated more fans. One you probably used to call FPS only fans. "That's why we have these claims that exclusives don't matter anymore or that this gen is over and such. They are way too cought up in their hate for anything Sony all they want is to see them in a bad light flip flopping from metacritic to sales to back to metacritic and finally to "exclusives don't matter" when ever it suits their agenda." Of course exclusives matter but they are not end all be all like you think they are. Sales suggest PS3 owners like both. In fact the best selling franchise on the PS3 happens to be a non-exclusive IP. The problem I see is you're way too wrapped up in this war between MS people and Sony people as you call them. There's a reality that exist outside of game forums and most people don't care about the war between the systems like you do. "I'm not saying PS3 fanboys are right. They are just as much to blame for all the BS in here but since I was here all those years and saw everything unfold before my own eyes there is no going around the fact that the entire console war regarding PS3 and x360 is/was caused by MS people. It was either the biased media or MS PR people or fanboys of this site who were always quick to judge doom on PS3 in every possible turn." No fanboy is taken seriously, that's why they are labeled fanboys. You're using way too many generalizations that makes it appear like you're still living in 2006.
Sorry mikemeyers. Accidently hit disagree. I agree with you.
Can we all just be honest the only reason 3ds is selling is because they cut a WOPPING 80 BUCKS!!!! of the price like 4 months 5 months after release... If vita did that they would sell out in 12 minutes lol
I agree, but it's a major reason. The price cut increased sales and thereby also cemented a ton of third-party support because Nintendo did just that. The Vita has been out a year and it is faltering and yet Sony won't cut the price of it or its very expensive memory cards to increase market share and win back third-party support. So, when you say "only" I say "wisely".