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Submitted by KellyBrown 546d ago | opinion piece

Hardcore or Not: Nintendo’s Difficulty in Recapturing the Core Gamer

The Married Gamers writer, Andrew Smith, gives his opinion about how the new Tomb Raider will not support the WiiU. (Culture, Nintendo, Tomb Raider, Wii U)

MNGamer-N  +   546d ago
I am an adult and I like my Nintendo Wii U. I am currently enjoying my adult M rated games.
Kingofwiiu  +   546d ago
This ^ me too.

I think can the Wiiu compete with 720 and ps4 on core multiplats ? Maybe a little bit , but not really no.

Can the Wiiu provide Excellent 1st , 2nd and third party exclusives that you can't find elsewhere ? HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PopRocks359  +   546d ago
Needs a stronger user base of course, but it's only been a little less than three months. ZombiU had a fairly strong attachment rate, so it's not like that kind of audience is completely nonexistent for the Wii U. It's a double edged sword, sadly. It needs games to bring in that core gamer and devs won't make games out of caution that the core gamer may not buy it on the Wii U.

I suppose it starts when one side actually gives it a chance.
wiiulee  +   546d ago
the core gamer and people that love great gamers never left nintendo....its the 13 year old to 18 year old nongamers who are new to gaming and just mimicking haters that dnt like nintendo thats the problem...but real gamers either have a wiiu or all three systems
stragomccloud  +   546d ago
I think it's really stupid how people talk about Nintendo "abandoning" the core gamer, when really it was the "core gamer" that abandoned Nintendo. People who call them selves "gamers" all too often speak of Nintendo only releasing casual games when 7 out of the 10 times, the games they produce are core games. People rat on Nintendo for shovelware, but was that really Nintendo? No it was 3rd party developers that were responsible for all of the shovelware.

That said, I personally was more pleased with the software on the Wii than I was on the 360 and PS3. That said, I greatly enjoyed the newer franchises such as Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, and Uncharted.
nightskyre  +   545d ago
Hey there, Andrew here. I don't think Nintendo ever did abandon the "core" gamer in the way you suggest. Nintendo didn't have a good grasp on the shifting definition of "core". 15 years ago, when I was a high school student with plenty of free time and an intense love for Mario and Zelda, I, the nerdy teen, was the core gamer. I drank in Chrono Trigger (17 years ago) and poured countless evenings into Final Fantasy 6/3 (18 years). Back then, I was the core gaming demographic. Nintendo hasn't abandoned those people - See games like Monster Hunter and even the Pokemon games for proof of that.

The definition of the Core gamer is always the one that, frankly, brings in the most money for the console. That is why Nintendo's "Core" Wii demographic was so different than the conventional "Core" demographic of the 360 and the PS3.

Not to sound hipster about it, but now that video games are popular, the things we grew to love as "core" gamers of the 90's aren't the same. The problem is, "core" is a nebulous, non-descriptive term.

So, you're right to say the "core" abandoned Nintendo, but in reality the relationship you're portraying is one of certain types of people abandoning the platform, whereas it is in actuality the definition of "core" that abandoned them.
stragomccloud  +   545d ago
A very excellent point made. Bubbles for you good sir.
Jadedz  +   546d ago
I believe once the Wii U's price drops, sales will improve
I honestly expected the Wii U to do better coming out the gate. The Wii demographic didn't upgrade, and PS360 fans are still getting top quality 3rd party support for those consoles (while the Wii U suffers in this case).

It's just more proof showcased to Nintendo that it's best to launch hardware with software that compels consumers into buying your product.
RTheRebel  +   546d ago
yea thats what im thinking too
250/260$ for basic and 300/310$ for premium
they will sell a shit load
nightskyre  +   545d ago
You know, as tempted as I am to say that price is the only object, I simply don't think that's true. Dropping the entry pricepoint for the console will do little to engender developer interest.

I'm reaching out to developers to see if I can get a sense of what it is like to work with Nintendo. I think we will see a much clearer picture if we can get a sense of what Nintendo's expectations of tablet usage are, for example, for a game.
bullymangLer  +   546d ago
wait . difficulty, nintendo? . those 2 terms dont make sense together . freakin fanboys, always confused.
pedroyamato  +   546d ago
Nintendo is fine bro... change the topic

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