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Sony, Microsoft Could Make Billions if Chinese Ban is Lifted

While Apple, Samsung and Google are free to ship their devices nearly anywhere, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have been prevented from selling their most successful hardware items — video game consoles — in China. That could change in the near future.

According to China Daily USA, Chinese authorities are reconsidering their decision to ban game consoles in 2000.

The ban, which has prevented the legal sales of PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Wii U, Xbox 360 and other game consoles, was implemented after seven Chinese ministries concluded that video games could potentially harm the physical and mental development of children. (Industry, Microsoft, Nintendo, PS3, Sony, Wii, Wii U, Xbox 360)

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flankhim  +   1104d ago
Nah. They will just re-manufacture counterfeit systems with worse quality.
PirateThom  +   1104d ago
This isn't like the NES where they can mess about with a lock out chip.
lorettajason3   1104d ago | Spam
flankhim  +   1104d ago

Another chinese post!
blackbeld  +   1104d ago

Finally they lift that crazy ban.

Chinese folks also deserve some entertainment not only hard labor. They work to much more then 10hours a day. Chill out please.
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Daoshai  +   1104d ago

Actually China only allows a maximum of 48hrs a week. The average is 44 hours I believe. I'm from Nippon where a lot of workers end up with many more hours, but I believe that is changing now.

The ban is more about keeping the public sheltered than depriving them of entertainment.
Bereaver  +   1104d ago
Well, I live in Shanghai and I've said it many times before.

You can already buy 360's and PS3 anywhere you want pretty much. Just because it's "Illegal" doesn't mean you can't buy it. They don't really enforce the law. Take a look here.....

Or here
SolidStoner  +   1103d ago
the fun part is that 50 % of world consoles and equipment comes from China! Yup just checked.... everything about consoles in my house is made in China!!! :)
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jony_dols  +   1103d ago
I'd say that both Sony & Microsoft are waiting till they their next-gen consoles are better secured against piracy, before officially releasing in China.
Kurt Russell  +   1103d ago
Knight_Crawler  +   1104d ago
Actually no they wont as I am pretty sure Chine will be in 100% control on which games will be allowed in China.

So No Halo, Killzone or Call Duty in China just good old fashion family game rated E for everyone.

Edit: at blackbeard - true plus the Asian community is not crazy over shooter like the west is and they enjoy RPG's more.

Would be interesting to see what Chinese people are into, Japan loves JRPG's and Korea loves dancing and strategic games like StarCraft so I wonder what Chinese people are into.

Edit#2: Also how will PSN and Xbox Live work in China? I know the government likes to keep tab on everything that goes through the internet so they would want full access to PSN and XBL and I do not see MS or Sony agreeing to this...Google has had a hard time in China and are thinking about pulling out since the Chinese Gov wants to control every thing that comes in and out of China through the web.
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blackbeld  +   1104d ago
No shooters, but they can life with that.

They still can enjoy Fighting games, RPG's, racing games, sports games, etc.
Wenis  +   1104d ago
They aren't allowed to make/let games in their country that 'dishonor' the Chinese military as well, or games that dispute China's 'territorial integrity'. But I guess that probably goes for all forms of media/speech in China at the moment..
Oschino1907  +   1104d ago
They have a F2P PC version of COD in china that's basically a mash up of Modern Warfare games.

Also you can get PS3s and such in China, they openly sell them in backstreet stores and local shops. I even have a few online British friends who live in China (Beijing area) and anyone playing COD can see most major Chinese cities have some lit up areas on the world map.

I think the deal with Chinese Government is they don't want other countries making money off of their people without getting a nice slice of the pie for themselves.
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Bereaver  +   1104d ago
Most people will just use the Hong Kong servers. Yes, even though Hong Kong is in China, it's still kind of different. And they do have Hong Kong servers. (well at least ps3 does, not sure about xbox)
_-EDMIX-_  +   1103d ago
Favorite comment "they openly sell them in backstreet stores" LOL
HappyGaming  +   1103d ago
@_-EDMIX-_ I remember in the PS2 era they openly sold copied PS2 games and chipped PS2s in Greece :P
kevnb  +   1103d ago
"They aren't allowed to make/let games in their country that 'dishonor' the Chinese military as well, or games that dispute China's 'territorial integrity'. But I guess that probably goes for all forms of media/speech in China at the moment.."

What do you think would happen if there was a game that disrespected the US army?
slaton24  +   1103d ago
chinese = karata= fighting games
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   1103d ago

I understand what you are saying, I agreed, but as much as US government would protest and try to ban it, they don't actually have the laws to do so. Even more, they have the laws protecting the creative force rather than the government... Yes it can still be banned, but at the very least, a legal struggle would take place before it happening, they would have to go around the freedon of speech law and try to put it in a light that makes such content look harmfull to the country, it's easier said than done.

In China it's already illegal, so if the government want to enforce a ban, they'll just do it. They don't need to go around and developers couldn't appeal to anyone.

But we know all countries have laws that don't actually get enforced. I don't know of anyone that tried to make a game that would offend the Chinese army (also we had to read the law to see if it specifies what is considered offensive and/or how far offensive to be considered a "dishonor"), so I think we don't know if they would actually ban anything...

The way I see, for all governments, it has little to do with honor and a lot to do with money and public support... If something will burn a hole in the pockets of the Estate or if it will turn the population against the government I would bet at least some politicians would try and (eventually) get such material banned. They always do.

EDIT: Bad grammar... Still not perfect, sorry.
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violents  +   1103d ago

If i remember correctly we already had a COD game where russia invaded the US after a failed espionage attempt on a terroist group made the american take the fall(ie contraversial scene called the russian, i belive) and then we had a game called homefront, where the US was being invaded and you are a normal citizen trying to defend your country.

In the middle east they ban games like these all the time because it shows US forces invading thier countries, The US has never banned a game for making us look bad and dont try and act like they do. They dont have the laws to ban things like that because no matter how much you dont like it, by our constitution we are allowed to say what ever we want about our government, good or bad.
yeahokchief  +   1104d ago
remember when sony's stock was at $9? this could change that.

wow. it already jumped up to $15.

that son of a bitch parappa the rappa was right. you gotta believe.
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Mutant-Spud  +   1104d ago
@ bereaver,
Interesting, the prices in that link convert to roughly what we pay at retail for a PS3 in Australia, so I'm guessing game consoles aren't exactly "black market" items in China?
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MysticStrummer  +   1103d ago
"They will just re-manufacture counterfeit systems with worse quality."

If they copy one of the original 360s with even worse quality, there might be an international incident.
kevnb  +   1103d ago
queue more ignorant posts...
lfclee  +   1103d ago
I agree they will copy everything including consoles and there is absolutely nothing the console manufactures can do because of the Chinese laws , crazy or what !
GribbleGrunger  +   1104d ago
I've been thinking about this since the first mention of China opening it's doors to consoles. They closed that door because of violence in games and it would stand to reason that IF they did open those doors, it would likely be the consoles with a more 'casual' appearance that makes the most from it. Kinect seems the perfect fit, but Sony and Nintendo being Japanese isn't going to help their cause. I might be wrong but I would be very surprised if Sony made more from this than Microsoft. If, of course, it happens. I'm willing to consider any counterpoints though.
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ChronoJoe  +   1104d ago
Doesn't make much sense. Sony's products are made in China and typically sell pretty well in China.

Furthermore, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - they currently have xbox 360 / ps3 knock offs because Japanese consumers desire ps3s / 360 systems.

With that said not much of the 360 lineup will appeal to a chinese market. 360 exclusives are very westernised and the PS3 offers many more games that're popular in the rest of Asia (Korea / Japan etc). So if anything I imagine it'll be the other way around to what you expect. I don't see this benefiting Microsoft all that much unless they want to come up with new content to back a Chinese launch.
Daoshai  +   1104d ago
Chinese boycott Japanese products all the time. We do not have a very good relationship with the Chinese and at the moment its pretty harsh.

I believe China will come out of its shell sometime soon though. I'm sick and tired of my family (parents and grandparents) with their unnatural hatred towards the Chuugoku.
hellvaguy  +   1104d ago
"Doesn't make much sens

It makes perfect sense when you think of it this way. The Chinese have an oppressive communist government that is opposed to any form of freedom of speech. You cant use the regular internet there. It's a heavily government censored internet.
NateCole  +   1103d ago
Well they are not that much more friendlier to the US.
Kingofwiiu  +   1104d ago
Sony , Microsoft and Nintendo could make billions*

@shut up and take money - Indeed , just seemed like a bit of an ignorant headline lol.

Nintendo and Sony would probably shaft China.
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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney  +   1104d ago
fixed.. We both know MS will still have USA and sony wiiU the rest of the world.
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Belking  +   1104d ago
We don't know nothing because nothing has been lifted.
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adorie  +   1104d ago
China's game industry will make the US look like Japan's, once fully established. they are pushing it too, fast tracking it even. China is nothing to joke with.
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Daoshai  +   1104d ago

You are giving china way too much credit for its economy. The US dwarfs it, the average person in the US makes 10x that of a China.
solid_warlord  +   1103d ago
Don'f forget the UK...UK is Xbox territory.
Ezz2013  +   1103d ago

you do know UK is in europe right ?!

europe is ps3/wii land
DA_SHREDDER  +   1104d ago
I hope i meet the most sexy and beautiful Chinese woman in my nerd life online some day.
dcortz2027  +   1104d ago
lol classic!
PopRocks359  +   1104d ago
Hey, as long as they can all make better products and give us more content, power to all of them.
BitbyDeath  +   1104d ago
Should've used a Dr Evil image.

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Hicken  +   1104d ago
Governments are stupid.
Qrphe  +   1104d ago
Possibly the wisest post on this story, get a bubble.
cee773  +   1104d ago
govment came and took ma baby

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hellvaguy  +   1104d ago
"Governments are stupid."

Ignorant statements like this are even more stupid.

Obviously there are good and bad goverments, but generally even the worse forms of governments are better then living in a apocalyptic era with criminals and gangs all taking over.
Hudahudahuda  +   1104d ago
No, anarchy is defenitly better than a bad government, because at least you are living in a shitty world on your own terms, instead of living in a shitty world while other profit at your expense.
jeffgoldwin  +   1103d ago
Actually a bad government would still be vastly better than anarchy. Youd have a barter system with no taxes being collected for roads, hospitals, school, police, etc.

Eventually powerful gangs and criminals would form and take over most every habitable area.
first1NFANTRY  +   1104d ago
The only reason why they are considering lifting the ban is because the government has a new fps shooter title being developed. It is for recruiting propaganda.

The article was posted a while back.
torchic  +   1104d ago
Max-Zorin  +   1104d ago
Banning console was dumb to begin with. I hate Governments.
jeffgoldwin  +   1104d ago
Like governments, don't like communist or oppressive governments.
kane_1371  +   1103d ago
in china there is barely anything communist with the government anymore.

Look at the way they are living, then look at the way Koreans are living.

Now north Korea is a real deal.
China is just an empty shell of communism.
Dogswithguns  +   1104d ago
Oh great, now they gonna be playing for days without sleep and eat until they dropped dead like they did with PC gaming..!!!
rainslacker  +   1104d ago
That was a Korean wasn't it?
Bladesfist  +   1103d ago
Yes it was
neogeo  +   1104d ago
I'm all for adding 1.3 billion people to the profits of the big 3. They can use that money to make better games I hope.
josephayal  +   1104d ago
Sony and Nintendo two giants of the industry and
good news coz Microsoft is one the most successful company in asia
MultiConsoleGamer  +   1104d ago

This article was obviously written by someone who is unfamiliar with China or the Chinese economy.

While a high standard of living exists in westernized cities like Hong Kong, the rest of the country is dirt poor.
N0S3LFESTEEM  +   1104d ago
Well if they sold them at a 99% markdown to say a dollar and everyone in china bought one... :p
kingPoS  +   1104d ago
Pretty much like how many cities in USA have ghettos. Some may deny or refuse to admit it, but it won't change the fact that that exist.

But wait! I thought there was already an asian ps3 sku? Is that that just for only Hong Kong in China?
kwyjibo  +   1103d ago
"Apple announced on Thursday that its quarterly revenue in China reached $6.83 billion, from $4.08 billion a year earlier. It marked the first time that Apple formally broke out China data in its earnings release."

And the last quarter was an earnings MISS from Apple.

MultiConsoleGamer  +   1103d ago
Are you honestly comparing Apple and its stable of products to the Xbox 360 and the ps3?

That's pretty funny.
kwyjibo  +   1103d ago
It's funny to you.

Luxury electronics - billions of dollars, sell in China. Maybe you were thinking of "hundreds of millions" instead of "billions".

You think that China can afford iPhones but not Xboxes (because they're quote, so "dirt poor"?) You think wrong, it's not like the cultural revolution any more.

It's funny to you, because you do not understand.
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N0S3LFESTEEM  +   1104d ago
This would be a great way to avoid world war 3 XD... just imagine if the world could settle it's problems through the use of online multiplayer matches instead of massive amounts of death and destruction.
FragMnTagM  +   1104d ago
I'm down with that.

Lost a few friends and loved ones to the pointless war we are in right now.

Too bad it will probably never happen.

War is a racket.
N0S3LFESTEEM  +   1103d ago
Sorry for those losses friend.
solid_warlord  +   1103d ago
China will win WW3 by Lag compensation.
wiiulee  +   1104d ago
shouldnt the title have had nintendo's name in it too..especially since they stand to make the most money with handheld and console....but i understand the point of the article
Game3s  +   1104d ago
FrigidDARKNESS  +   1104d ago
This would be awesome for MS they could leave the Japanese market and concentrate solelymon China.
Soldierone  +   1104d ago
Look up videos of "black markets" there. All kinds of knockoff systems that look identical to the real ones. Someone bought a "Vita" and it could only play pong lol The only difference is they will say "PlaStation" or "PlayStation Three"
black911  +   1103d ago
Why did they ban in the first place?
jeffgoldwin  +   1103d ago
communist government = censorship
EffectO  +   1103d ago
Too bad that nobody buys games there.
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phinch  +   1103d ago
Made .......but not played in china
urwifeminder  +   1103d ago
The japenese companies wont do to well with the disputes over territories the chinese are allready boycotting lots of products.
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wheresmymonkey  +   1103d ago
Yeah, guess none of you have been to china. You can already buy any of the major consoles there already, pre modded to play backups too.

Authoritues dont give a toss about the ban. If the government lifted the ban, absolutely bugger all would happen.
ephoenix6  +   1103d ago
China is super corrupt, all microsoft and sony have to do is bribe the authorities and they'll have their way
hivycox  +   1103d ago
Nintedo is missing in the title... just saying ..
why only sony and microsoft china is near japan so direct territory of Nintendo ....

and since nintendo dominates japan they also will be successful in china IMO
extermin8or  +   1103d ago
Tbh as chinese people can play on PC's anyway... the law is pretty damn stupid at this point :p
listenkids  +   1103d ago
China is the main reason World of Warcraft has so many subs ( 6 million+ ), the possibilities this adds to console gaming is great news for developers.
th3n00bg4m3r  +   1103d ago
The image reminds me of Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception.
Samuel-Rodrigues  +   1103d ago
And then they wouldn't have to scrounge for an extra buck by making on disc/day one DLC, online passes ect.
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