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Submitted by Prcko 530d ago | news

Rare veteran George Andreas leaves Microsoft for Sony, now Creative Director of SCEE

Rare veteran George Andreas has left Microsoft to join Sony.

Andreas, who played a key role in the development of the Kinect hardware, Kinect Sports 1 and Kinect Sports: Season 2 as well as Xbox 360 launch games Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero, joined Sony this month as creative director of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, working out of SCEE's London office. (Dev, Industry, Sony)

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NYC_Gamer  +   530d ago | Well said
He made the right move...It's a waste of his talent only being able to work on Kinect products...
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Software_Lover  +   530d ago
Now he'll work on making the Move popular!!!

touche
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   530d ago
lol don't even joke.
Let's hope Sony use his talent to make awesome games.
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zebramocha  +   530d ago
@soft of course,unlike kinect the move can be implemented in a variety of games and it works.
Red_Orange_Juice  +   530d ago
I'd love next gen Star Wars game with Move
doogiebear   530d ago | Personal attack | show
Software_Lover  +   530d ago
@ Zebra Mocha.........

The kinect isn't used in a variety of games?

@ don bear

meet me on ps3
id:cherub2g

pick a game. I'll play you.
blackbeld  +   530d ago
Great move.

Welcome to Sony Family.

Sony family will treat you much better cause you deserve better.
smashman98  +   530d ago
Rare doesn't have the same people they did back when they were with Nintendo not saying wether or not this guy is talented but don't think him being at scee means that he's going to bring that old rare flavor to sony
TheStorm  +   530d ago
@smashman98

It said he was there for 16 years, so he's been there since 96-97. That was during the glory days, so he was probably with a lot of the great oldies at Rare, it was around 2000 that most of them started to jump ship.
dafegamer  +   530d ago
harrymason just took the words out of my mouth
kingmushroom  +   529d ago
@ don bear: he can't go back to xbox because there are no exclusives to play only COD, unlike the PS3 that has "Ni no Kuni".
UnholyLight  +   529d ago
Hey ZEBRAMOCHA.....At least Microsoft had a set of BALLS. Sony took the easy way out with Move and merely attempted to improve on the WiiMote and everyone knows it. At least Microsoft has been experimenting with hybrid games and full motion gaming and not just making "eye toy copy games".
Kevin ButIer  +   529d ago
SCEE's London mostly develop casual games, so... don't expect a big change
MaxXAttaxX  +   529d ago
He's worked on GoldenEye, KI Gold, original Banjo games adn DK64.
Sound good to me.
FlunkinMonkey  +   529d ago | Funny
@ Sotfware_Lover

"Pick a game. I'll play you.'

Did you just offer 'don bear' the geek equivalent of stepping outside? ha
BattleAxe  +   529d ago
Xbox 360....Jump Out...
Syntax-Error  +   529d ago
HarryMason
If that's true why hasn't it. The MOVE is a commercial flop. The thing had no legs from the beginning just like the six-axxis controller. It was a pointless gimmick. Sony makes great first party games and should stick to that. The "me too" peripherals make them look desperate.

Most of these fools that think he was denied freedom at MS are idiots. When was the last time RARE had a hit? MS bought RARE because they were going bankrupt. It wasn't like they bought them when they were making hits and had great stock options. The shareholders were screaming SELL SELL! You guys act as if SCEA game division is the place to be especially since they are losing tons of money.
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FriedGoat  +   529d ago
Syntax, move has much better functionality in CORE games, I enjoyed using it in mag/socom/killzone aswell as some of the other Move only titles such as Tumble/echochrome/House of the dead overkill.

Unlike the kinect, which has to sacrifice core games for Kinect only titles. all I've been playing on my xbox for the past year or 2 is gears 3 and halo 4, what else is there?
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Abash  +   530d ago
Hopefully he still has the passion and creativity to make another great game after developing Kinect games for so long
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camel_toad  +   530d ago
He probably feels reborn now. I'm sure we'll see that old Rare magic return because Sony will most likely give him the freedom he didn't have at MS.
SilentNegotiator  +   529d ago
Frankly, he left a veritable creativity sink hole and joined up with a group that gives infinitely more development freedom.
Blastoise  +   530d ago | Funny
He obviously escaped :P

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
fossilfern  +   530d ago
^^This video! MS wasting the remaining talent of Rare on some stupid kinect games and avatar clothing. Not surprised a few employees left
Hellsvacancy  +   530d ago
That was actually a pretty funny video
Septic  +   530d ago
Haha brilliant video!
Snookies12  +   530d ago
Amazing video, that gave me a good laugh.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   530d ago
lol
PinkFunk  +   530d ago
Hahaha. Oh man that was good. Also laughing hysterically at the Gabe Newell at E3 one...

RICOCHET 2!!!!!! haha!
kostchtchie_  +   530d ago
ha ha epic video, thanks for the laugh
-Gespenst-  +   530d ago
Hahahaha I effing KNEW what video you'd posted immediately.

YOLO and Gabe Newell at e3 are better though.
dafegamer  +   530d ago
lol @ dat vid. Sad but true
kevinsheeks  +   529d ago
that video lol took the cake
Ezz2013  +   529d ago
lololol OMG!!! i can't stop laughing
insomnium2  +   529d ago
I need to see that video too. I'm at work right now so I can't atm. I'm commenting here just so I can return to this topic afterwards.
Temporary  +   530d ago
Microsoft is the king of ruining talent. I hope after all the Kinect garbage he was forced to make, he still has the passion for making awesome games with HIS vision and not THEIRS.
RuleofOne343  +   530d ago
You make it seem like he was forced to stay ,he could have left at anytime. The point is he decide he has no one to blame but himself.
Rainstorm81  +   530d ago
I agree witwickidy , money talks....but after your pockets get full doing what you don't want to, you gotta move on.
user3915800  +   530d ago
There goes a man with great talent and now a traitor lol... I always liked him, but this shows were his integrity ls, with more moey lol.. I hope he does well, now sony has the trades of ms given to sony lol.. I guess a rampage of trolls wll praise him now, cause while he was with rare he was not good and now that he is with sony the drolls will say he was the best lol...
I wonder if this was the leak that MS spoke abouut?
Qrphe  +   530d ago
>having loyalty for a conglomerate

They love you too very much and would never betray you.
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JamieLeeC93  +   530d ago
Stop with the lols..
jessupj  +   529d ago
I think you're getting mixed up.

It's Sony that offers creative freedom. It's MS that offers the short term financial gain and not much else.
Liquid_Ocelot  +   530d ago
Off topic: somebody post this up!
Orbis updated info! Can't post original link from leaks as I can't load the page for whatever reason :/
http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

On topic: it will be interesting to see what Sony does with him. Hopefully new IP
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dboyman  +   529d ago
Disappointed with amount of Ram. Has Sony not learned with the PS3 when it come to Amount of Ram, even if its much faster. It should be increase to 6 or 8 GB...
3-4-5  +   530d ago
Yea as much as I'd not like to see him stay with Microsoft, wasting talent on useless Kinect is unproductive for him.
GraveLord  +   530d ago
You don't know what you got until its gone. Treat your people better Microsoft!
nukeitall  +   530d ago
MS has an open policy, where you get to choose within the company where you want to work. When Kinect was released a lot of people jumped on that bandwagon at MS because it was exciting.

This guy worked on Kinect because he wanted to, not because he was forced.

Another tip, to get hired somewhere else you have to come from a respectable place of work or experience, that means, this speaks more of MS quality employees than it has anything to do with Sony.

Before anything thinks this guy might change focus and work on core games, think again. Companies usually hire based on experience to do a certain task, which means he will likely work on the likes of Sports Champion....
mcstorm  +   529d ago
I agree with what you have said but I really don't get some people on here. They make out as if Kinect Sports 1 and 2 were bad games. Kinect sports 1 and 2 are 2 of the best Kinect games. Its a plus for sony to have someone work for them that worked on Kinect stuff as he can help develop Move/Eye toy software.

But why do people go on that he was forced to do Kinect games ect dose anyone on here know the guy? We all move jobs in life that's just what we do and there is no need to start a fan war over a X MS worker who is now Working for Sony. If your talented you will move form rival company to another as MS Sony and Nintendo are at the top of the tree and you cant really go up form there so you go from side to side.
morkendo23  +   530d ago
Now that george andreas escape the clutches of kinect
which was waste of time. will he re-invent RARE good quality games.
possibility he could call old co-workers and rebuilt RARE for Sony under a new name ZARE..................
banjo-kazooie as a start? maybe??
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"Donnchadh Murphy, the 3D modeler that worked on the series, said this past August that Microsoft was not interested enough to pursue making the game. “We all wanted to make Killer Instinct 3, but Microsoft was more interested in broadening their demographic than making another fighting game. So it never got made, I doubt it ever will"

http://www.digitaltrends.co...
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showtimefolks  +   530d ago
It's making how towards the end of this gen MS have only focused on casuals yet ps3 has still passed it up.

For first 4 years the message from MS was clear we are the console for core gamers it's only after they saw wii doing so well they totally turned their back on us who made them successful to begin with

But good for this guy he has left a good gaming company for a great one with a long history. Hopefully they will use him right and not just ask him to do next move or move games
TheStorm  +   530d ago
@smashman98

It said he was there for 16 years, so he's been there since 96-97. That was during the glory days, so he was probably with a lot of the great oldies at Rare, it was around 2000 that most of them started to jump ship.
mrkeith  +   529d ago
Did he help on any of the Donkey Kong games for SNES?
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phantomexe  +   529d ago
No i don't think so in fact the rare that MS owns now may have a handful of the people that did goldeneye or DK. There a shell of there former self. Preety sad i know, Free radical had most of the old rare before they went under. I think that's preety much the story.
mrkeith  +   529d ago
ah that sucks ballz
edgeofsins  +   529d ago
@UnholyLight

Easy way out? Sony has been experimenting with Move like motion controls for years before the Wii was announced.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Move is a clear improvement in gameplay difference from Wii games when games take advantage of Move. Kinect on the other hand offers not much more then the PSEye in terms of gameplay experience.
yeahokchief  +   529d ago
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
christine15   529d ago | Spam
PS3gamer4life  +   530d ago
Good move
Trenta27  +   530d ago
Why use such good talent on such crappy games?
Dogswithguns  +   530d ago
Check made!!!
Froakie  +   530d ago
He must have got sick of making junk.
Jek_Porkins  +   530d ago
I'm sure this will be filled with fanboy comments, but there have been numerous Rare departures throughout their history, most people don't realize the conditions that the Stamper Brothers put on their employees in the early days. There were 3 separate mass defections, so I always get a kick when people say things like "old Rare". I always ask which old Rare? The team that built Goldeneye was new and that was their first game. The main team was working on Banjo Kazooie.

Also, this guy helped build Kinect, wasn't "forced" to do so. Microsoft asked their top developer to work on the device they were sinking billions of dollars into. Like Kinect or hate it, obviously its been essential in prolonging the Xbox 360 this generation and Kinect has been a success as far as sales are concerned.

Good luck to him in the future, but I wouldn't read too much into someone changing jobs.
Yodagamer  +   530d ago
I read an interview that a former employee said that it wasn't microsoft that hurt them, it was the lack of nintendo's focus that hurt them. Microsoft at first was very "do what you want", until they need to have someone make kinect games. Then the quality of the game kinda dropped off without nintendo, though the xbox 360 launch games were decent.
Godchild1020  +   530d ago
"I wouldn't read too much into someone changing jobs."

People will, because he moved from one console maker to the other. It would be and I believe it has when someone from Sony leaves to go work for Microsoft. You might ask, why would they even do that. But stuff happens and you want something new.

All I'm trying to say is most people don't leave their current jobs when they like it, they do it because their is/could be a better opportunity somewhere else.
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nukeitall  +   530d ago
@Godchild1020:

"All I'm trying to say is most people don't leave their current jobs when they like it, they do it because their is/could be a better opportunity somewhere else."

And better opportunity could mean more money, more "power", faster ride up the corporate ladder and so on.

People moving jobs are so common, and there isn't really much to read into it.

However, what I find ironic is to get hired somewhere else you really have to come from a respectable place, and when Sony starts hiring MS employees, it really speaks more of MS than it does Sony.

The fact this guy works more on Kinect related stuff, suggest he is hired to do more of the same. You hire a person with a certain experience to do a certain job usually.
rainslacker  +   530d ago
Yeah...um nuke...this guy has been making games at rare for over 15 years. A few titles he's worked on were Donkey Kong 64, Killer Instinct Gold, Banjo-Kazooie, and Donkey Kong Country 3.

He wasn't hired because of his experience as a MS employee, he was hired because of his experience as a game designer, of which some of that time was spent at MS.

In the game industry, any experience releasing a finished product, particularly on those levels listed above, means a lot more than which company actually produced it.

It's not to say that MS employees aren't good, just that I doubt that was what Sony looked at primarily when hiring him.

Whether Sony approached him, or the other way around could mean all the difference on whether he was going to do something "Kinect-like" or he wanted to expand his opportunities.
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baldulf  +   530d ago
I hope he would be back to make the games that made Rare great and not crappy casual games.

Casual market has moved to the tablets and phones, the WiiU failing to repeat the success of the Wii is proof of that. If console companies realize that there may be a new golden age of gaming in the coming years.
ThyMagicSword  +   530d ago
Why care?
Ezz2013  +   530d ago
someone who click on the article and comment in it ...oh wait
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ThyMagicSword  +   530d ago
No, I do not care, why do you or others care? He works for Sony now, well ...good for him, but why should one care?
rainslacker  +   530d ago
Because he's a known creative director and senior designer for Rare. He's not a nobody in the industry, and it's interesting to see where people that make the games we play move around to. It leads to discussion about what games we've played before, and what may be to come.
ThyMagicSword  +   529d ago
I am more interested in the result of his work than his person, no matter for whom he works.
EffectO  +   530d ago
Somebody has to work on those dual cameras that Sony has planned for PS3 ;)
TongkatAli  +   530d ago
This is a good pick up. Finally something Rare like on Playstation. New IP is coming.
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hazardman  +   530d ago
Wow, some of y'all act like this is some game changer! The guy help make a device that you guys always bash, yet you accept him with open arms because he defected to Sony! Hopefully he helps create something useful there!
Karpetburnz  +   530d ago
No, We are saying the kinect is garbage, but we are also saying This mans talent should be used for something better than Kinect. Like a Sony product.
hazardman  +   530d ago
Dude so you disagreed to agree. Like I said he helped develop kinect I just hope he makes something better for sony! I was bashing Sony loyalist who bashed his work yet its ok to work for Sony now! You and 7 others are douche bag fucks who think that what you have to say is the only thing that matters on this site. But ofcourse this is a Pro Sony site so who am I kidding. I'm lunch for you piranhas!
Count  +   530d ago
So, a product is ''good'' because it's a Sony product? It's nice to know what kind of a mindset you have.
TongkatAli  +   530d ago
Defected ? More like escaped from that prison in Dark Knight Rises.
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sdplisken  +   530d ago
lol good one
TongkatAli  +   530d ago
No one is attacking you. LOL, you okay ?
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rainslacker  +   530d ago
I personally don't begrudge him working on Kinect. If he was into it, then I say great for him, he should enjoy what he does. I also know that he's helped make a lot of great games, and I hope he gets to do more of that in the future.

As far as game changer...that remains to be seen. Depending on his position we may never even hear about him again, since generally most people working on a game never once talk to the press or even get noticed outside of some of the really higher ups on the project. I have heard of him before this story, but I know that he's not really a celebrity type within the gaming community.
isarai  +   530d ago
While i love Sony, and him leaving MS was a goood move. going to SCEE doesn't seem like it's anything better as all they've been putting out is move/pseye/singstar stuff. Hopefully with this guy Sony uses him to his strengths and creates a new IP that isn't peripheral centric
Reborn  +   530d ago
Maybe money was a factor, maybe he left because it wanted a new experience. Either way, good luck. Hopefully we see some good stuff from him.
M2-  +   530d ago
Phil Harrison leaving Sony for Atari and then Microsoft was more noteworthy, but good luck to George Andreas (the guy no one has heard of until today).
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chukamachine  +   530d ago
Do you remember this.

Saddest moment in gaming history.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
KingKevo  +   530d ago
Hey, I'd do the same thing if I was such an intelligent and creative guy and had to waste all my and my fellow workers skills on stupid Kinect games. People have spoken about this a lot already, how sad it actually is that a studio as talented as Rare is has to do the shi**y trash games for their owner Microsoft. It's such a waste of potential and if it goes on like this, ther won't be any left in a couple of yeras. So brave and right move from Mr. Andreas there. Maybe he'll be able to work on a more mature game for PS4.

But because he was so much involved with the Kinect, I can only hope that he was seeking a change and that Sony did not want him to work on their next-gen-gimmick-feature (-games). Guess well see how it turns out in a couple of months or maybe even years.
DivineAssault  +   530d ago
he mustve had the right kinect to make that move..gwaaaahahaha **coughs** anyway good decision & hopefully some good platformers make it sonys way now since MS held him back with gimmicks
brew  +   530d ago
Great Move by Sony. He is going to be a Plus for Playstation.
Novistador  +   530d ago
Not a single good game on that list, unless he was part of the Rare team behind Banjo Kazooie or the Donkey Kong games I could not care any less. Microsoft killed Rare; so much wasted potential.
rainslacker  +   530d ago
Other games he worked on at Rare.

http://www.giantbomb.com/ge...

Pretty hefty list.
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LOL_WUT  +   529d ago
he worked on Banjo-Kazooie for the 64 Niiiccceee!
jakmckratos  +   530d ago
Yessssss...have him make a new Jak and Daxter game..PERFECT
FlyingFoxy  +   530d ago
omg, i was ranting about this recently in the comments that the 360 only had mainly FPS games and Rare talent was going to waste.

I would really love a game like Conker, or even Banjo Kazooie like was on the 64 but on PS4..

I think this just signalled to me to get a PS4 instead even more now, maybe this along with Wii U and my PC will be all i need to game next gen.. of course with my Vita and 3DS.
-Gespenst-  +   530d ago
Oh my God... Maybe Sony will let him make some proper Rare games!!!
Silly gameAr  +   530d ago
Well, hopefully he finds something at Sony that he couldn't find at Microsoft. Hope some good content comes from this too.
Bumpmapping  +   530d ago
Jumped out at a great time welcome to a real gaming company George your talent shall shine once again.
ghostrider32  +   530d ago
Microsoft should just sell Rare and those games back to Nintendo. Ever since they bought them, they didn't allow the company to do them. Every game they worked on, Microsoft told them to cancel it.
BuffMordecai  +   529d ago
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
AO1JMM  +   529d ago
ok? People change jobs in the gaming industry all the time. This is not a sign of doom and gloom.
jacksheen0000  +   529d ago
I guess George Andreas got tired of kinecting the DOT.
smashcrashbash  +   529d ago
Well I suppose it's for the best Rare is nothing like it once was. I can see why he would want to be with more creative people. Microsoft hasn't exactly wowed anyone with anything Rare has made since they brought them.
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