Sales estimates are in for Japan and the USA, but does the first week sales total spell doom for the series or are encouraging thus far?
core fans are keeping away it seems, good reviews are offset by bad word of mouth, not all hype is good hype.
It was a bad idea to alienate core fans. CAPCOM is now suffering the consequences. They rebooted the franchise for wider appeal and increased sales (5 million sales initial target) but it is selling less. What good is a reboot if it is going to sell less than its predecessor? DMC thrives on hardcore fans, not casuals. CRAPCOM went after the wrong crowd and are now realizing their mistake the hard way.
Gotta love karma.
I'm not a core DMC fan, but Im put off by the changes, I'll wait when game will be availaible for half the price
I'm now wondering what Capcom is gonna do. Will they understand the reason this is selling poorly and go back to the original Devil May Cry and make Devil May Cry 5? Or will they take this as no one wanting the franchise anymore and let it die(like they did with Breath of Fire) Given the track record they have shown I expect it to be the latter of the two. I'm kinda confused as to why they made this in the first place. Didn't DMC4 sell like 4-5 million? Aren't you supposed to reboot games that are not doing well instead of those that are? Yeah DMC4 had it's naysayers but it wasen't close to the level DmC has seen. Either way it will be interesting to see how Capcom spin this and what they ultimately do.
Capcom are slowly dying. They've alienated fans of Resident Evil, they're alienated fans of Devil May Cry, their on-disc DLC has damaged their reputation and even their fighting games are going down the toilet (see the absolutely terrible reception for Street Fighter X Tekken). It's almost like they're deliberately setting out to destroy their own fanbase and slowly but surely it's working. The company is killing itself thanks to stupid decision after stupid decision. It's the same thing that's happening to Square as well, they're slowly going down the toilet.
I only wish Resident Evil core fans have had the same mentality towards RE6. Gamers need to realize that they are in charge, and being vocal doesn't matter if they keep supporting what they are unhappy with. Although, I believe that low sales (in comparison to previous games and/or other capcom franchises) in this case is not only because it is a reboot that no one really wanted, but also because of the arrogance and disrespect Ninja Theory showed to core fans during the whole development process. The in game cutscene being the icing on the cake. It would not be undeserved if they failed miserably: it would be justice.
Important thing now is how the coming big releases will eat into DmC sales. Between now and the next 2 months we will get or have: Ps3 only: 1) GoW:A 2) Sly Cooper: TiT 3) Ni No Kuni 360 only: 1) GeoW:J Multiplat: 1) crysis 3 2) MGR:R 3) Castlevania LoS2 4) Aliens: CM 5) Metro Lastnight 6) Bioshock Infinit 7) Dead Space 3 8) Tomb Raider 9) Army of Two: DC From the above list of games, 7 games are probably seen as big AAA releases. Considering places are already selling DmC locally where I live pre owned for £30, and the number only increasing, wonder how this will affect sales.
@reibooi "I'm now wondering what Capcom is gonna do. Will they understand the reason this is selling poorly and go back to the original Devil May Cry and make Devil May Cry 5? Or will they take this as no one wanting the franchise anymore and let it die(like they did with Breath of Fire) " I'm guessing and hoping for the latter as well. If "core" fans can't let the real fans enjoy DMC then expect capcom to just scrap the entire franchise. Nobody wins. "core" should be proud as they've killed the chance for a new gen to enjoy DMC all the while claiming to be real fans. Do they really think Capcom is going to go back? it should be OBVIOUS that the old style is dead to them and is NOT coming back, EVER. but this whole ordeal has been quite entertaining for many
Yup agreed, it's a lose lose situation for the hardcore crowd but that's Capcom for you. Megaman X series died with the reboot the watered down, easy mode Megaman Zero series and then became Megaman ZX then it just flatlined with whatever version was next. I'm surprised they havent killed Monster Hunter series yet. We might see it on the 4th iteration.
Not a bad start but I expected more. I think it might just make 1 million in four weeks.
If it does (which I doubt) sales aren't going to make it any further because as you know our boy Raiden is gonna Rise.
I haven't looked at any numbers from the previous DMC titles, but this seems to have always been a bit of a darkhorse series, popular with Capcom fans and little else. Based on that understanding, I'd say 0.5 mil in a week is pretty good, especially for a January release.
Does this also include digital sales?
In comparison DMC4 sold more than 750,000 in its debut week with 3 LESS days of sale. DmC sold half of DMC4 in Japan, one-third in UK and two-third in USA. All these lower sales with 100 million more consoles in the market since 2008 (bigger installed base), with 3 more days of sale, with no competition in January and a "wider appeal". You can get the idea how much poorly it performed if we take in to account all the major factors. EDIT: Disagreers, MAN UP and accept the reality! I only stated absolute facts.
I'd say a series that has sold over 10 million copies is more than just a "dark horse" tbh. It might not be as popular as some of Capcom's other franchises, but those sales are still pretty impressive.
Yeah I guess you're right. I don't know why, but DMC has just always flown under the radar of myself and my friends. Too busy playing roleplaying games, I suppose.
the system is shit, the camera is shit, the platforming is shit and the character is shit. how they thought this would sell? they were able to sell SF4 3~4 times for the same ppl because SF4 IS VERY GOOD! a shit game will not sell, period.
CoD seems to? (sorry had to be said) Anyway, I just played through the first mission I really enjoyed it and I normally dislike these types of games.
for the fans of COD, cod is a good game. for the fans of DMC, DmC is a horrible game. that's the big difference. not saying COD is good, but at least it can please a certain public... DmC didn't please no one except reviewers that wanted to be in good relationship with capcom.
Or maybe they just liked it? Like I do? People have way to high expectations of games these days. I miss the days of the PS2 when we could enjoy games for what they were no matter how shit/buggy they are. ;<
CoD sells to hardcore FPS enthusiasts and casuals alike. It also has the frat crowd. It has a consistent and LARGE fanbase because of this and it doesn't change anything. This is why it sells. It pleases it's core market. DmC's only hope was the core action gamer market which they quickly alienated by trying to appeal to the casual market. I love enjoying games and remain loyal to many franchises but I will not pay for a game that I simply do not enjoy. DmC falls into this category. When developers start selling out the very people that keep them afloat to try and get the attention of people who never even glance their way what do they expect to happen?
@Cirran, in the days of the PS2, you oh so fondly remember with their day one patches, and online fixes for bugs were great! All sarcasm aside, the PS2 had a few things going for it that you don't take into account. 1- If a game was buggy, it flopped because there were no patches. No fixes. It was buggy, so it failed. You shipped a game with all possible bugs fixed, and hoped for the best. 2- Gaming was still a niche market, and there weren't "brilliant" men like Tameem at the helm, because people like Tameem don't care about games. They care about the bottom line. Making games was not a real viable career option, so we still had people who were passionate about gaming, rather than having a feigned interest in games, and a passion for money. DmC is a game about the bottom line, about money. It is nothing more. It was not made by a team that cares about you, just your wallet. It was made to cash in on a classic series, and sell casuals their first DMC experience, but it is watered down, and it shows. In the long run, DMC does not matter to Capcom, only how much money it makes. If they thought they could make more money with it being a top down ARPG, they would have done that before Konami did it. They do not care about you, the integrity of the series, or the niche fans of the original series. They care about your wallet.
I'm one of those core fans, I'm ditching this one on purpose.. the previous DMC series had so much potential left behind, Imagine a DMC game telling Sparda's story, y'know that Legendary Dark Knight we hear so much about?. Maybe some day we'll see it happen, I'm just considering this game the second mistake Capcom made DMC related.. DMC2 being the first mistake.
agree i hope we will see a true DMC5 on ps4. One Game that will actually advance DMC in terms of gameplay and not shit on the mechanics I would love a Sparda Prequel too :)
I wonder why the old fans are ruining the remake for everyone else. Ive played the old games and they where great, ive got the remake and it was awesome!! I like it more than the old ones, its one of my fav games now.
I know, I too am an old fan (DMC1 & 3 some of my favourite games of all time) and while I understand the complaints and the game has it's flaws I still enjoyed the game immensely. Capcom wanted a reboot and that's what they got and to be honest it could of been a hell of a lot worse. Was cool seeing Dante and Vergil teaming up for once and some of the boss battles were epic, and for the first time in a Devil May Cry game I was actually enjoying the story. It's come at a cost though, the combat has been dumbed down (still great fun) and the graphics look a bit poop with the unreal engine, but the story is better and the environments more interesting. Also the soundtrack is awesome. I had my headset on and the bass was going and some guy screaming in the background and I was tearing up some enemies kicking ass an I thought to myself this game is great when it all clicks together. By the time the game ended I wanted more and I hope they do a sequel. Like I said though I understand the complaints but it's just a different experience to the older games and I can enjoy it for what it is instead of hating it for what it isn't. edit: @fei-hung my bad I can't really remember much about 3, havnt played it since it came out, all I could remember was the awesome fight with Virgil at the end.
It's not the 1st time they teamed up, they done it before in DMC3.
So many disagrees on a comment that mentions many true positive things about the game. I guess no one is allowed to say anything nice about the game here.
You have got really low standards man... It is like eating poop after steak and still liking it more.
way to show class, buddy.
@asim Always found it funny when one person thinks THEIR standards should be adhered to, like it's a given that everyone thinks steak is a great meal. Ever occur that he steak tastes like poop to him and hamburger helper is to die for? Many people found the old games pooplike buddy and it has nothing to do with your standards. Who the F are you to tell him he has low standards because they don't match yours?
You've got it all wrong, we trying to let the new folk play this one while saving the old fans from spending $60 or 40 Pound on something they'll regret. We're supporting the new fans of this.. new series, just keep em' away from the Classic DMC :p
@Tyrant13: How are old fans ruining the remake for everyone else? We don't control your bodies or your money so you can buy whatever you want. Don't expect us to buy something we don't like and can clearly see is a bad attempt at a Devil May Cry game. If you want support bad games, all the power to you, you just then forfeit your right to complain about any other bad game in the future.
I really didnt mean it like that. I know the old fans aren't stopping anybody buying it and they have a right to an opinion, I'm just saying some take it too far. Like what heard about some of the old fans wanting DMC removed from the selfs and wanting the president involved, that is what i mean.
Its a great game but it wasn't developed for the core fans. It was built around a larger audience in mind which is clearly its own downside. But for such a reboot its still decent.
@AsimLeonheart you played the game? Also why can't you just discuss why you didn't like the game instead of replying with an immature comment about my standards in videogames? @gamedebater Agreed.
Yeah, I played it on Nephilim and completed it in just 2 sessions on my first try. SSSed several bosses, crushed all the enemies easily. Only Dreamwalkers were fun and a little challenging. I am a "harcore" DMC player and not some noob casual to get impressed by this messy crap. Completed DMC 1 on Dante Must Die; got S on all missions and no damage bonus on several missions. Got SS on all missions in DMC3. Got S on all missions in DMC4 and no damage on a few. So I know what good gameplay and bad/dumbed down gameplay is. DmC is just casualized and westernized to appeal to new kids.
Yeah I agree the game is too easy, I was getting SSS on my first playthrough, but was it fun? yeah it was. So what's the problem? am I going to hate the combat because of a rank I get at the end of the mission? no. Does it mean the combat is bad? no it means the ranking system is too easy. Then again what about: Son of Sparda - Remixed enemy layouts, tougher enemies and enemy behavior throughout. Dante Must Die - As above, but contains the strongest enemies and insane attack waves. Heaven or Hell - Another remixed mode, but everyone and everything, including Dante, dies after one hit. Supremely satisfying! Hell and Hell - The same as above, but only Dante dies after one hit. For serious there are plenty of modes if you want punishing gameplay.
U know when u get good at something the game becomes easier. DmC combat is more similar than u think. Someone that is really good at original DmC games will come in and easily get through the game on Nephilim.
I haven't played a DmC game in a long time so I played it on Nephilim and had somewhat difficult time on it. The more I played the better I got and the easier it was. Then I played it on Son of Sparda and it was definitly a lot harder.
Then I tried DmC3.
I haven't played DmC3 for years and went back and played the hd remastered and played it on the hard difficulty. I remember in mission 2 that shadow guy being so hard. Not so hard anymore. And I didn't sit back and wait for him to attack me and then hit him. I fought him straight on. Why was it so easy when I haven't played the game in a very long time. Probly because new DmC game is more similar than u think.
DmC3 wasn't as hard as I remember it. Just as hard as Nephilim. And it was the same for like 2 more missions I played after it.
SSS is to me way to hard to get in the originals but to easy for new DmC.
I don't understand how someone can enjoy getting SSS in original DmC games. It was to much. But that is just my opinion.
"but was it fun?" What you have to realise is that most of these people really don't play to have fun, but as a way to feel better about themselves. Which is fine except the only way they can feel better about themselves is to show others that they are better at something then others. With the game "dumbed down" (hate that term) more people now can achieve what only a few were able to. This doesn't sit well with them, thusly a loud uproar has followed. Same can be said for many franchises this gen. You see it in every comment. " It only took me x to get sss. It used to take more skill..... blah blah You'd be surprised as to how many "gamers" don't really play games to have fun, but as a way to reaffirm who they are or aren't in the real world...
the most they (capcom) will get out of me will be $10 on the inevitable steam sale in the next month or two, just grabbed hitman absolution for $16....want dmc even less....but do want to check it out....everyone says the pc version is by far the best, so, once it hits $10 or so i'm sold!
ill pick it up when its 20$. shit talking ninja theory doesnt deserve my money and neither does crapcom for ruining DMC.
Hahaha "I'm gonna' buy it! But only AFTER I show everyone that I HATE it, too!" that's how I see this comment. Lol!
Pick it up used...no one get's your money then. USED PEOPLE! How many times have I said it on this forum...used. Give GameStop/Best Buy your cash and leave NT and Crapcom to rot. Buy used. Thank you come again.
When will these articles end, talk about other games coming out or something, Jesus. No wonder game "journalism" is fucked.
RIGHT, and notice how most of the old fans dont even start but its these stupid journalist that begin with this crap egging people on.
Resident evil has just got old, animations are stiff and nothing new about it.
I think the new DMC looks better then 4.
People just moan for the sake of moaning. If his hair was silver would you care.
It isn't about the animation or graphics. The game looks just fine, it is everything else that people are mad about. The plot is screwed, and is pretty much 'Panty Stocking with Garterbelt' The gameplay is dumbed down for the casual market The characters are absolutely dreadful and are insulting to anyone who plays games for plot and story. The dialog is the worst I have ever heard in a game, sounds like it is from some pubescent boy's journal of edgy things. It is not the graphics. It is everything else.
To be fair, Dante isn't as hateable as he first appears further down the line, as for dialogue, it's on par with anything from Unreal.
B-b-b-but the vocal minority.......
I looked up what Capcom's projected sales would be and its 2 million. So They already knew that it wouldn't get as much sales as DmC4. How the sales are right now, there is a good chance they could hit it or get very close. At this point it hasn't failed capcom yet.
Please, Capcom will say anything before saying they were wrong. I already knew about Capcom lowering their projected sales from last year due to the backlash so now lowering expectations doesn't automatically justify their actions. If this game even sold less than what is now, Capcom will say it's a "success" or be silent on the whole matter..
Well DmC hasn't really been much more than a 2million seller from the beginning. I think there first projections was 5 million. I didn't expect it to come out and reach 5 million sells. Thats just stupid. DmC4 didn't even get close to that so why would the new DmC reach 5mill?
No DMC game will ever sell 5 million. That was just a stupid projection on Capcoms part.
After finishing the new DMC game, i went back to play the Devil May Cry 4 again as i played its only 1 or two chapters the last time i played IN PC because NERO is so damn unappealing. And OHHHH MY GOD!!! Devil May Cry 4 sucked sooo much balls the camera angle is sooo worst i die and some times i am unable to do the platforming properly even after trying like 50 times (CHAPTER 10 ANYONE).. SOO Frustrating.. Every other thing is great but NEW DMC easily kicks Devil May Cry 4 ass in every way.. Hate it or like it but i wont be playing the old Devil May Cry type DMC games in the future with stupid camera and potty poor plat forming. As for Dante and Story... i love both new and old.
@shahrukh This is pretty much how I feel about the game. To me DMC4 was probably just as bad as DMC2 I absolutely hated pretty much everything about it and it was probably one of the laziest developed games of this generation. Yet it got glowing reviews and sold the most in the franchise. The fact that DmC may have sold less than DMC4 means absolutely shit to me. It's still the better game. The 4th installment was the only one in the entire series I had to force myself to complete. Sure maybe DmC isn't to your liking, that's actually perfectly understandable. But let's not pretend DMC4 was some sort of masterpiece. It was a mess.
I sometimes feel like I'm the only one that likes this game. I played all the others before it as well. A reboot was nice.
It would be truly idiotic if Capcom were to dismiss a true sequel to the series after seeing how many people objected the changes in this one. We'd all buy it, right?
It is very likely that the game will not meet its 2 Million sales at the end of the fiscal year, because while first week sales are not bad, they are not that great either. Especially when this game is trying to sell about as much as DMC4 did in one year. People always get impressed by Week 1 sales and it gathers lots of hype from the press, but the follow-up is what is much more important in the long run, because sales always go down after the first week. Some drastically compared to others. And it's what games like Resident Evil 6 and Black Ops 2 are suffering from, a weak followup after a strong Week 1. DmC is not a good position right now. With Week 1 sales being 1/3 of DMC4 in UK, 1/3-4 in Japan, USA numbers still to be determined, sales ranking low on Amazon, bouncing up and down on Gamestop, and multiple triple-AAA to follow up afterwards, I would not be surprised if the game fails to meet sales expectations. I am not sure about digital sales, but for what it's worth Steam numbers have peaked below 6K since Friday. Also note that we are just now getting the weekly sales figure for after DmC came out. And it being the first AAA title of the year was guaranteed to have strong/decent Week 1 sales. We still do not have figures for Ni No Kuni's release and that game is currently ranked at no.1 in sales all over the places. And I am interested to know how Ni No Kuni's release affected DmC' sales, if it had any affect. But we'll have to see. I expect it to sell over 1 Million by August, and 1.5 Million by the end of the year. Until Capcom gives us their numbers, we won't really know.
I am actually very surprised about Ni No kuni. I knew it would be a good game I think we all did. But, Im surprised at how long its been sitting at number one on amazon and other places. I hope it does sell well though, because JRPGs need it
I don't know what the big fuss is. It's still a good game in it's own right. It's far from NOT SELLING at all and I'm enjoying it so far. If someone wants to play the original series, that's what the HD collection is for. Go play it. Enjoy this game for what it does well. It's still difficult, it's still fast and it's very enjoyable. Pardon my language, but fuck off with the negativity already.
You can fuck off for encouraging this shit, one by one, capcom is destroying their franchises, yet morons lap this crap up, encouraging the company to further butcher games in the misguided quest to "westernize" in order to attract sales. So excuse me for not supporting the downfall of the series.
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