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Submitted by -Mezzo- 911d ago | opinion piece

Fallout 4: what it can and can't learn from Skyrim

OXM - It doesn't take an evil genius to figure out that Fallout 4 is just over the horizon, given that "Three Dog" voice actor Erik Todd Dellums has tweeted about the return of his character - and following Skyrim's monstrous success, it's likely Bethesda will share ideas or even full-blown features between the franchises. (Fallout 4, Next-Gen, PC, PS3, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Xbox 360)

Root  +   912d ago
I hope they dont dumn it down and make it accessible.

I want them to keep a similar leveling system from F3, I loved how each level you were rewarded with a perk.

They better not get rid of wepons breaking and stuff like in Skyrim

Oh and unique weapons have to come back
Drabent  +   911d ago
Need to learn how to give weapons character from Demon souls.
pandaboy  +   911d ago
Fallout 4 needs to learn nothing from skyrim. It needs to learn from Wasteland 2.
Knight_Crawler  +   911d ago
Fall Out 4 needs to learn that too many arrows to knees can get old quick.

Please do not reuse the same lines on every AI that you meet.
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Summons75  +   911d ago
Get rid of VATS. That completely broke Fallout 3 and made it stupidly easy. Highly enjoyed the game but it would have been so much better without VATS.

Otherwise: Adopt the "favorites" menu because always need hotkey. Keep the menus in general from skyrim but go back to a classic leveling system like Oblivion/Fallout 3. Get rid of perks every level, do some at the beginning of the game to define your character (like oblivion, fallout 3).

Also would it kill you to make a variety of hairstyles? You guys always have such terrible hairstyles and like 5 options.

Either way I'm interested in what they have up their sleeve for this game. Can't wait for the first gameplay footage
Root  +   911d ago
No perks or VATS

Why kill off things which made Fallout 3 so great

I mean sure the VATS was probably made to over shadow how crap the gun game play was but it was fun as hell....seeing a leg come off or seeing that you've managed to blow someone's head off was great. When you levelled up enough and saved enough ammo you didn't really have to use it.

Although I suppose if they put in a better sneak system where we could take out enemies without VATs then it wouldn't be as bad. I want to see enemies on my radar before I alert them.....hated it in Skyrim. The only time it would show a red dot is when you've been seen or nearly detected.
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Heisenburger  +   911d ago
Just. Don't. Use. Vats.

You can play it like a shooter while the rest of us play it like an rpg.
Summons75  +   911d ago
ummmmm what does VATS have anything to do with rpg playing? It was a one shot kill every time I used it. It took all challenge out of the gameplay and made the game stupidly easy. Like Root said too it was just a mechanic thrown in to cover up a horrible gun system, it covers up a larger problem and hurts the game over all. Think how great and challenging the game would be without the pause time and space, insta kill, button. people cry about FF13's auto battle which has an actual purpose saying it's "push button to win" well, surprise, that's exactly what vats is.
Root  +   911d ago
@Summons75

A one shot kill....sorry but you must of been a high level and had all your perks worked out to get the best ones to effect VATS.

It took me a while before I started getting one shot kills and even then it's because my luck was high to score criticals
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MidnytRain  +   911d ago
Why? You didn't HAVE to use perks OR VATS.
KwietStorm  +   911d ago
Fallout is a RPG disguised as a FPS. The shooting mechanics are nowhere near what a natural shooter has. Removing VATS would not only try to turn it into a fullblown shooter, but it just wouldn't work well regardless.
bluetoto  +   911d ago
I'm inclined to think that's what Summons is trying to do, turn an rpg into a run and gun shooter. I've seen several people try and play FO3 like it was COD.

As it's been said, vats covers up the horrible shooting and removing it would only encourage fps heads to complain about the shooting and how you can't play it like COD even more.
TheOneEyedHound  +   911d ago
please let it be next gen.
pandehz  +   911d ago
One request plz improve the shooting.

Its an FPS rpg but the FPS aspect was horrid in F3 and new vegas.
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TheOneEyedHound  +   911d ago
I want Ai's that take cover when fighting

I want to be avilable to create my own town and invite Npcs

I want stimpacks to be the Nuka Cola quantum of the game, and use bandaids and stuff to heal myself

I want to be able to change the world,(FO4) example: Nukeing Megaton, or letting ghouls in tempany tower.

I want Hardcore Mode like in NV

I want there to be a main story no multi endings
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League_of_Draven  +   911d ago
It will be a glitchfest like all of their other games so it doesn't matter what it learns because it will be garbage in the end anyway just like Skyrim.
SageHonor  +   911d ago
how about making it polished.... and not glitchy as hell
Funky_Homosapien  +   911d ago
After i played skyrim i told myself i would never buy a bethesda published title again but then dishonoured came out and i couldn't resist and i wasn't disappointed so will give fallout 4 a chance i just hope they release it on Next Gen consoles otherwise the lack of ram in current consoles will cause the game to be too small.
bluetoto  +   911d ago
don't be fooled, any game THEY develope will be bug ridden, as been the case this ENTIRE gen. They just published dishonoured I believe, no coding.

Still don't know why they garner so much fanfare praise, all they do is make big empty worlds full of giltches with terrible combat...
th3n00bg4m3r  +   911d ago
"What could Fallout 4 learn from Skyrim?"
SPOILERS
Nothing.
ajax17  +   911d ago
Sprinting needs to be a gameplay feature. More control over companions actions too.
chris1234reed  +   910d ago
I shure hope they allow more than one follower.when your going to fight a hord of death claws.it would be nice to have some real back up instead of some one with just a pistal.I alos hope it is more end of the world type.fallout3 was asome but new veags was more civilized and kind of boring.make it were there is more danger and more super mutans.

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