In a sad but dignified departure from THQ yesterday, as the remaining employees were allowed to gather their things and clear their desks by the end of the day, THQ’s now former president Jason Rubin tweeted a picture in response to not only his last day at the office, but to industry figurehead Cliff Bleszinski’s comments on the Saints Row franchise.
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Jason rubin to me is an idiot. He once said on Bonus Round over at GT that publishers have every right to charge online dlc pass code but they should also charge more TNA. $60 per game. His view is how to make more money and nothing else. Also from what I have seen of his interviews it's simple as I am right and you are wrong
So while I do see in comments people hating on cliffy, I just hope you all realize that he had been working at epic since he was a teenager and he has done a lot more tha. Just gears of war. David Jaffe started GOW so he will always get the credit no matter who designs future god of war games.
But as a combo of game designer and game director he had a lot of say in what should be made.
I would love for him to work on some existence IPs, when RE6 came out to mediocre reviews cliffy said if given the opportunity he could fix RE6. Capcom get on the phone
Saints row 2 was a much much better game than SR3. In SR3 they threw everything in kitsch sink and hoped for the best while having no structure to the story what so ever. Craziness and silliness can get you only so far. I am a huge open world games open and I see a lot more potential in SR series
Also I am surprised by how little the price was that deep silver's publisher paid. I thought for sure activision and or EA would be involved. Also this would be have a great chance for one of the console makers to grab the IP but what's done is done
Not sure things are that simple.
The only game of his I really liked was Jazz Jackrabbit. Everything else he did that stood out was pretty much the Unreal Tournament games and its third-person counterpart, Gears of War.
All Cliffy kept complaining about was the dildo and gimp suits because it made him feel "embarrassed". Get over it Cliff, Bulletstorm was a huge dick joke anyway.
I do agree that SR2 was better balanced though.
Also just so you know it's not like Cliff was the only person working on those titles. He's just the one that got recognized but hundreds of people contributed they just weren't fortunate enough to get the credit they deserved. He's not some sort of one man army developer.
With that in mind, his opinion holds some weight when he comments on another game's design. Calling him a joke is just laughable.
... but yea, sure, I'm a die hard defender because I don't think some guy who's been influential in the gaming industry for the past two decades is a joke.
Gears of War series was the shit, I don't care what anyone says. If you have a Xbox360 that trilogy gotta be in the collection! And for its few flaws the multiplayer is just right too, mad fun. But its my opinion. On topic though Cliffy does come across as a prick, but he knows his shit, he been in the business a long time! Damn I didn't even want to defend the bastard either. Anyway good for dude going out in full glory with a Barneys dick and shit...hahahaha!!
You guys act as if he wished death upon Jason Rubin or something.
If you can't come up with a decent response, I think this is a case of pot calling kettle black.
I'm sorry but people saying that it was successful because it was immature clearly don't get it. The gameplay in the SR games are brilliant. The story was brilliant in SR1 and 2 and I thought they were going a little overboard in SR2 as it is in terms of the over-the-top nature of some elements.
Saints Row doesn't have to be stupid to be good. It has to be fun and you don't have to go OTT on the immaturity for it to be enjoyable.
Also, 'immature gameplay styles'? WTF is that?
That said, I think SR should stay how it is. The immaturity is what makes the series Saints Row and NOT GTA. Sure, they could have toned it down some. But that's not really what they wanted to do. Maybe the next game- and there'll be a next game- will be more reserved than the third iteration, or maybe it'll be at the same level. Maybe it'll be even more extreme.
But I DON'T think it needs to start taking cues from Grand Theft.
Let it be silly.
How you come to the conclusion that Jason Rubin is a douche bag in the same story as the name Cliffy "the douche" B is beyond many of us.
I am at the ready professor. Enlighten away!
How strange, here he calls Saints Row The Third 'embarrassing'. I love Saints Row The Third, but Jason Rubin has said several times that he wants to change it.
From his interview in 2011:
"Why couldn't that be a Red Dead Redemption or a Skyrim?" he said. "I look at that title and I say, ‘Who cares what it is and why it got to be what it is? From that team we can make something that isn't embarrassing."
"It works for South Park, but I'm not sure it does elsewhere," he said. "I don't think (Volition) chose to do what they did because they had all of the options available to them. It was the environment at the time.
"I know I can change that."
poor CliffyB
And 'Whored' Mode? Come on...I think next Saints Row still needs silliness but to be balanced by a story akin to Saints Row 2. A lot of features were cut from SR2 as well...