Push Square: "It’s ironic that Sony has had such a tumultuous time with backward compatibility of late. In the transition from the PSone to the PlayStation 2, the platform holder essentially set the expectation for the feature moving forwards – but it hasn’t always managed to uphold that standard in recent years. Initial models of the PlayStation 3 included support for previous generation titles, before the technology was whipped out in order to cut costs. With the PlayStation 4 looming, what happens if the company’s latest machine isn’t compatible with its current library?"
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i have my ps3 to play ps3 games
so that won't stop me from buying ps4 the day it launch
The only method this would affect is the ones who didn't connect their PS3/have poor signal which I assume is a relatively small amount
Not a deal breaker if there is none.
If the price is around $350, than I will still buy a PS4 (regardless).
So do you also have your PS2 plugged in to play PS2 games?
Will you be having PS2, PS3 & PS4 all plugged in at the same time on the same time just so you can retain BC?
Also what happens when any of them breaks down, you going to constantly be buying old Boxes? Hell the PS2 isnt even in production any more. You gonna pick up any old PS2 laying around, good luck with how long that will last.
BC is a joke on consoles, if BC is what people want then the PC is the ultimate answer.
yes i still have my ps2
i even still have ps1
and still play them
The options are either another $599 console or no backward compatibility. Sony is going to go with option number 2, and so will Microsoft.
You don't have older devices plugged in? What are you? Maniac? I have like EVRY single console plugged in at all times. Even my Atari Jaguar in case I want to have some AvP awesomeness.
If they allow my content I bought off the Playstation store to be carried over then that will be fine. I also think the acquisition of Gaikai will play a key role in the future.
But they'd probably have to be streamed.. Even psn arcade games? As they are still designed for the cell. It'll suck if you have a large collection of discs though as you'll probably have to buy again... Interesting idea re: online passes though.. That could work.
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Also what happens when any of them breaks down, you going to constantly be buying old Boxes?"
What happens when your one machine that plays all break? ur having to shell out 5 times the price to get it again... also have 3 seperate things is more assurance as if 1 breaks you can still play ps2/ps1/ps3 games so...
Honestly i wouldn't buy a PS4 if the downloaded games weren't backward compatible. i have soooo many downloadable games. That would legit just be a big "f u" from sony in my opinion. I'd switch to PC, that would just be actually ridiculous
The way the Cell architecture works, I highly doubt it will be backwards compatible. Then again the fact that it's rumoured that the PS4 will use several separate dual core chips in the it may be possible to replicate. Supposed it'll be down to whether it will be cost effective to do so.
It won't affect me this time. Although I didn't make the mistake of selling my ps2 to get a ps3 I still see backwards compatibility to be too costly. I'd rather keep my ps3 now because I have a lot more than just games invested in it. It also holds my music and movies. I don't want to copy them to yet another system. That'd be another 17 hours of downtime.
If PS3 is only for PS3 games then explain why theres a PS1 and PS2 download section in the PS Store or the countless HD collections from the PS2.
Theres obviously a market for classic games so just because you want new, shiney and shallow games doesn't mean everyone does.
To make money. It is more profitable for Sony to re-release their games than to add BC.
and you comment to bring ur side of the arguement
People who dont care are just as entitled to their view as you are to yours.
@below - then can you explain to me why my PS3 can play PS1 games and not PS2 games?
It's the cpu and graphics chips inside of the machine that dictate how they are coded. If you have an intel chip in one machine and an ibm power4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or cell etc in another, they are two different beasts all together and cannot run software compiled on the other chip set without either an emulator built in or extra hardware - both of which come at an additional cost.
If it's financially viable, I can imagine, they'll but some SPU metal on the chip; but beyond that I am sure there will not be any additional HW to emulate the PS3. SPUs might makes sence because they can indeed run physics completely in parallel to CPU and GPU and would not only allow BC but also improve performance on new titles (and secure some investment from the CELL). But beyond that, I can't imagine there will be anything done. This is pure imagination though. If the SPUs can't be made "tiny" and cost efficient this won't happen.
BTW: Pure PS2 emu on the PS3 is also possible as seen with the release of PS2 classics on the PSN.
Well, while it would be nice to run PS3 games, I personally don't really care. I got my PS3 for that. It'll be cheap when the PS4 releases. And I rather want a new machine stretching the boundaries than being held back because of compatibility reasons. It's a console after all, not a PC. Compatibility was never the primary focus with such a machine.
Your real name wouldn't happen to be Tony Stark, would it? You seem to have some impressive knowledge in tech.
Microsoft never dropped backwards compatibility so why would we be utterly disappointed by them keeping a feature?
And yet they charged for online access. You can ignore the RROD, disk scratching and other issues. There's also ads flooding the home screen.
And you seem to have forgotten that Sony only dropped it after at least a year. And that it had bluray, which at the time, was in the thousands. The only issue I have with my ps3 is updates and install times.
But rather, the downloaded games that people bought out of Sony's store.
Sony has to figure out a way to make those games work with the PS4.
I for one will be very angry if JOURNEY doesn't work with my PS4.
Of course, I think this may be part of the reason that Sony bought GAIKAI.
We'll have to wait to see.
Xbox 360 has backwards compatibility on all major xbox games. When 360 came out people were still playing halo 2 mostly on their new 360s.
For real. I never thought of that before. Even if they do gaikai for BC they'll be charging for it.
all PS3s have backwards compatibility with PS1 disks.....yet, they still sell PS1 games in the store. Sony could have removed PS1 B/C long ago, but they didn't.
And I am fine with that. A lot of the great PS2 games have gotten HD collections or HD remakes and others are on DN under playstation classic
BC is not as big of a issue as some people make it out to be, we don't expect nintendo to be BC for N64 games now do we?
I would love to find out the percentage of people who actually play PS1 games on original PS3 which had BC.
Just make sure ps4 can play ps3 games and I am fine with that much BC, I personally don't need ps4 to be BC with ps1-2
console gaming on the other hand, people are HOPING there's backward compatibility, even if PS4 can play PS3 games, they are still going to look like PS3 games, want to see The Last of Us in 1080P? buy it again next gen!
Then the PS4 will sell less initially and people will wait to buy it later. Many people who buy new consoles at launch have the ability to do so because they have credit/money from trading in their old consoles.
im gonna play ps3 games on my ps3.
its THAT simple.
I loved the fact that the PS2 was backwards compatible and I also really appreciate that my 80GB PS3 is backwards compatible with PS1 and PS2 games.
This is a super important feature to me. I hope Sony can find a way to make the PS4 backwards compatible with PS1, PS2 and PS3 games. Or at the very least, PS3 games.
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Educate yourself on why BC is important before shooting your mouth off next time.
The 360 was BC for about 95% of the games.
It was more like 10% at launch, and even now its nowhere near as high as 95% - 50-60% tops.
you need to keep in mind that while ps4 on the market
ps3 will still get support from 1st/2nd/3rd party dev for atleast 3-4 years
I bought a PS2 and never played my PS1 games again, then I bought a PS3 and never played my PS2 games again. Both were backwards compatible and I still had my old console in both cases, yet I never looked back. PS4 will be no different for me. Looking back on older games in your memory is almost always better than replaying them and realizing they don't look or control as great as you remember. Gaming evolves. Move on.
What you said is like saying you shouldn't watch old movies because the special effects aren't as good. You'd be missing some real classics.
Fair enough you might not own all of them but of the 720 and PS4 don't have backwards compatibility, I'll be annoyed. What about room for all the games we've had in this incredibly long generation plus those extra we'll buy for the next gen?
You guys are quick to pounce on Logic but the bloke makes sense. Backwards compatibility is an excellent incentive to buy a next gen console because you're essentially getting two consoles in one.
Also, don't forget the possibility of current gen games running better on next gen consoles.
Sell there ps3 and know the consequences of doing so (losing ps3 games)
or...
Keeping there ps3 and being able to play there precious ps3 games also.
day one
this will be the first console
ill preorder
Its a Playstation
Anyone got a light?
Though PS1 compatibility, since its software emulation, should be an easy throw-in but likely just as forgettable.
But wait.....I didn't disagree.....
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I still have all my old consoles including Dreamcast, MegaDrive and PS2. Never had to sell any of them to free up space or raise money for a new console, because the games and the consoles that housed them are sentimental to me. I won't ever sell them, and enjoy booting them up once in a while to bring back the memories.
I've done just fine without PS2 backwards compatibility with my PS3. I don't expect that to change for PS4.
Fact - PS4 will not be backwards compatible, you'll simply have to download them, they're already introducing big titles online so we know it works already.
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Five out of about 60 PS2 games. And I own only about 60 out of... thousands? Yeah, on the store, there are 48 PS2 games out of something like 2000.
And 164 out of a thousand or so PS1 games.
I guess if you add in the HD collects, you might get to about 60 games total that you can rebuy for your PS3. Yeah, that's REALLY putting a dent in that PS2 library...
From a money-making perspective can you see why they wouldn't include backwards compatibility?
People say BC isn't important but it must be to someone. Sony, MS, and Nintendo seem to put a lot of effort into making sure their systems are. Maybe MS to a lesser extent but at least they went through the motions.
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