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# Saints Row Would Be Better Without Dildos, Says Cliff Bleszinski

This afternoon Cliff Bleszinski–industry giant perhaps best known for his role as designer in the Unreal and Gears of War franchises–has been sounding off on what he thinks makes the Saints Row franchise great, and not so great.

Like dildos.

Gathered from a string of tweets on his Twitter profile, Bleszinski seems to think the franchise has great game mechanics–enough to “give GTA a run for their money”–but finds that their presentation is a little too “immature”, saying “[Battlefield] didn’t go after [Call of Duty] by putting dicks on their guns.”

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BALLARD32  +   1040d ago
I'd have to agree with Cliffy B on this one. Saints Row's whacky environment is what sets it apart from GTA but Saints Row 3 was just too over the top. Hopefully SR4 will be more like SR2.
LOGICWINS  +   1040d ago
I played the timed trial and it was too over the top for me. Saints Row 2 was MUCH better since I could actually take the story and characters seriously, thus giving me an incentive to want to keep playing.
knowyourstuff  +   1040d ago
Instead of giant dildos, Cliffy endorses enormous, hulking men with small heads and giant armour suits, who instead will bash people to death with their OWN penises.
BigStef71  +   1040d ago
I dont understand why people are disagreeing with you. Its a known fact that the majority of the Saints Row fanbase thought the third was garbage compared to SR2.
For the people saying the third was awesome, have you guys played the other games?
Wenis  +   1040d ago
SR3 just seemed like it was designed by a bunch of middle school kids who think sex jokes are the funniest thing on this planet
ShinMaster  +   1040d ago
It wasn't even that wacky.
Cars didn't fly like in SR2. And it would be silly to take their stories seriously in the first place.
SR2 was a bit too ghetto.

First of all, if you're quitting the gaming business or taking a break, then take a break and stfu. Cliffy's always running his mouth. And BF didn't go after COD.
Wenis  +   1040d ago
^Uh, BF totally went after COD. Look at how dumbed down and "mainstream" (aka CODified) BF3 is compared to BF2 and BF 1942.
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hellvaguy  +   1039d ago
"Cliffy endorses enormous, hulking men with small heads and giant armour suits, who instead will bash people to death with their OWN penises."

Half the men weren't actually hulking, they just had on armor and None had small heads. Also, you totally lost me on they beat people to death with penises.

I'm going to go with you've never actually played the game, knowyourstuff and your actually a stealth fanboy which didn't get the game on either the pc or ps3, so your just raging now.
Axecution  +   1039d ago
Im just gonna go ahead and sacrifice my agrees and say that i had a ton of fun freeroaming in Saints 3 and overall liked it a lot. I had more fun playing co-op in Saints 2 but other than that i had way more fun with 3. The single player missions were just so over-the-top and epic. The opening mission says it all. Jumping out of a plane, freefalling, catching Shaundi, dropping her, shooting out the window of another plane and smashing through its window, catching another parachute, catching Shaundi again and then parachuting. lmao

Sure there was some immature stuff like dildos and whatnot that didnt really need to be there but the campaign was really good and for the most part didn't have that stuff.
And honestly, other than Dildos, there wasnt really any sex jokes. Just over-the-top stuff like that batmobile car and jets and the shark gun and stuff xD

But honestly all that just made freeroaming timeless.
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Army_of_Darkness  +   1039d ago
Loved SR3!
Yes, I finished SR2. But I just loved SR3! I personally find it better in every way! good graphics, game play, okay story and so over top but just pure fun overall!!!
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MaxXAttaxX  +   1039d ago
Grand Theft Auto also had a dildo.
Bulletstorm was one huge dick joke.
Thematically, BF2 did modern combat before COD4.

Gamer1982  +   1039d ago
I liked 3 personally but the DLC SUCKED. 2 was better but it wasnt to do with the dildo bat. Nobody forced you to use it throughout the game (I think you had to use in 1 mission). The great thing about Saints Row is you play most missions how you want to play them.
No Way  +   1039d ago
My favorite Saints Row game was still the first game..
And, then the second game comes second, and the third.. third.

I did, in no way, care for the 'over the top' parts of the games.
Some of the wackiness was okay, but I still preferred it to be serious.
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ChickeyCantor  +   1039d ago
I loved Saint rows the third. Everyone complains about the purple dildo. I in fact never equipped it once. I actually bought SR2 on steam but still have to play it. Either way I like SR the third. Playing it co-up makes it even better.
Mounce  +   1039d ago
@BigStef71

Strange....for I thought I remember seeing that SR3 was the most successful....and all I heard from all my friends who had bought it before me kept on saying how awesome it was and how you can just buy it and just get right in and don't need to play the other games. All positive things of it....

'Its a Known Fact' - . . . You should be a reporter and start using that line on a lot of things.
BigStef71  +   1039d ago
@Mounce
Actually Saints Row 2 and the third were both very similar in sales and reception so neither one was more successful. Yea it was easy for newcomers to get in the game because volition completely neglected the story from the two previous games which to be honest was a slap to the face to the series hardcore fanbase. The third was way too over the top and got stale fast. SR2 had way better missions, activities, a better city by a long shot which had so many things to explore with a bunch of easter eggs, better characters, and the story if I would even call it one was garbage compared to previous games. All I am saying is SR2 had a good balance of being serious and crazy which is the reason the series got popular in the first place. The third lacked the charm that the first two had. If you go to the Saints Row online forums it will be very clear that the majority of the community doesn't like the third. Maybe for newcomers the game was fun but for the fans of the series previous installments the game was a huge disappointment. This Angry Joe review of the game will prove why my statement is valid:
http://youtu.be/XHB0CQ3uPj4
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guitarded77  +   1040d ago
"Saints Row Would Be Better Without Dildos, Says Cliff Bleszinski"

Says the guy that endorsed Bulletstorm... geez.
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da_2pacalypse  +   1040d ago
No no... Says the guy who endorsed Sawed off Shotgun in Gears3.
Theyellowflash30  +   1039d ago
What does him endorsing BulletStorm, which was his job.... have to do with voices his opinion on Saints Row as a gamer?
guitarded77  +   1039d ago
@ Theyellowflash30

Have you not played Bulletstorm? It has just as many d!@k jokes as Saint's 3. The dildo in SR3 is nothing more than a visual d!@k joke... my comment was just saying it's the pot calling the kettle black, but I was also joking at the same time. You seem like a very serious person though.
Kurt Russell  +   1039d ago
Bulletstorm was meant to be all dicks and whips... it was a blast to play through, albiet non replayable.
Riderz1337  +   1040d ago
That's the whole point. It's not trying to be GTA, it's trying to be Saints Row. Get it?
BALLARD32  +   1040d ago
That's pretty much what I said but they took a great formula in SR2 and just did stupid things with it. Get it?
f789790  +   1039d ago
There's no point in trying to be serious. They know what they're competing against and serve up something different.

Being serious is pointless because if people want that, they'll go with GTA. I loved Saints Row 3 because they intentionally made sure every mission was over the top ridiculous. It's for FUN! Not an engaging story.
Baylex  +   1039d ago
Extactly!! f789790 says it all!
This is not a GTA, it's a Saints Row it always had the sense of humor that GTA never had and it never will. So what it has dildos? if you don't want to use then you won't use it.. if you want, then go ahead.
It can be a serious game or it can be a funny game, do what you like. It has those 2 options.
That's why I love Saints Row and prefer it over GTA a thousand times.
sobekflakmonkey  +   1039d ago
I've played all the saints games, and 3 was my favorite, me and my brother played through on co-op and it was fuckn amazzinnggg, like one of my favorite games, I thought it was genius.

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J86blum  +   1040d ago
SR3 was great. SR4 needs to keep uping the anti. If you want down play go play Grand Theft Auto. Saints Row knows what it is, GTA keeps jumping around trying to find a solid grounding. it went from wacky in San' Andreas to WAY to boring in GTA4 (graphics and engine physics don't mean nothing if it bores your sensless) And Cliffy B.. No he can talk and talk till the cows come home with his space trashcan men. and all the gears games were nothing special (when fans flip out in a game series when the double barrel shotgun gets introduce and its game breaking. then you did something wrong.)
Tonester925  +   1040d ago
Grand Theft Auto had a purple dildo that you could slap people with lol

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Baylex  +   1039d ago
Yes this means Cliffy is just showing off...
I love Gears but he thinks is the best just because he made this games...
lategamer  +   1039d ago
All the gears games were nothing special? Please. There some of the highest rated games this gen. Not only that, Gears 1 basically made TPS popular again on consoles, and its cover mechanics were a step up from previous games like Kill.Switch.

As for Saints Row. I love the franchise. Saints 3 was straight awesome. I LOVED the over the top action. Oh, an airplane is coming right at you? Shoot the windows, fly through it while shooting the fuck out of everyone, and jump out the back. Oh, your in a wrestling ring? Grab a chainsaw and cut people in half. The game constantly tossed crazy situations, and was plain fun. GTA IV was a boring, slow game. IMO, Saints > GTA/Crackdown/etc.

But I think Cliff has a point. Adding Dildo's to the game just seemed crude. It wasn't necessary and didn't really add anything to the game.
J86blum  +   1039d ago
Another Gears Fanboy. (made TPS popular again..) Its called Resident Evil 4, Cold Fear, Killswitch, Windback,MAX Payne,Ratchet & Clank, Jax and Daxter, Tomb Raider, Syphon Filter. I swear Gears fans have blinders when it comes to third person shooters. All these games came before gears. And Gears brought nothing new, maybe annoying shake cam' which everyone hates. And as for cover system You can run through Gears on the hardest setting and not use cover. Go play Killswitch (the king of cover shooting.) and get back to gaming community.

And Cliffy B. is just talking to talk, he makes a comment about Saints Row 3 dildo, however none of the wild and zany stuff in Saints Row 1-2, or early Grand Theft Autos.

by the way, Bulletstorm, was Cliffy Bs' coming out of the closet game, and he has the nerve to judge anyone lol. Go mack another subpar game, and stop talking.

And the reason GEARS sold so well is cause Microsoft has crap for exclusives. they buy rights to DLC and first releases but cannot lock down a studio to save their lives. And what magic Cliffy had is gone. Gears 3 was a joke (and before anyone says well it sold well.) Well of course it did, you have Forza, Halo, and Gears. not tons of options in the way for exclusive fanboys to choose from.
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Pushagree  +   1040d ago
He's one to talk. His games are the same base, barbaric, brainless drivel that give gaming a bad reputation.
BigStef71  +   1040d ago
100% agree with you. They need to go back to what made the first two games so great
palaeomerus  +   1040d ago
Cliffy B isn't really known as a beacon of good taste in video game marketing himself. He's not the right person to lead this fight.

" HEY DICK-TITS, THIS GAME AINT GONNA ORDER IT﻿ SELF HAHA!!!! "

Marcus Fenix : " More like TEN shit loads!"
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SilentNegotiator  +   1040d ago
*SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER* (SR2 and SR3)
SR3 lacked tact in general. They killed Johnny in 5 minutes, for crap's sake. The story was great up until they killed Julius...it was like they took recognition of the irony and killed it in place of goofiness. It was a tad disappointing that Saints Row 2's excellent story telling didn't go anywhere with the ironic stuff, and neither did SR3.
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garibubuprincess  +   1039d ago
I don't think it was the over-the-topness that made SR3 a lesser game. For me, it was the lack of content. I don't think it would've been so disappointing if there was a build-up into the wackiness. Instead, it was ridiculous bullshit from the get-go, which just gets boring.
SilentNegotiator  +   1039d ago
*spoiler*
"it was ridiculous bullsh** from the get-go"

Whaaaat??? It's not like you blow up a building, jump out of a plane, and launch missile strikes in the first 2 hours.

lol
showtimefolks  +   1039d ago
I had a blast with SR2 but Sr3 was just all over the place and just too crazy.

Look I love the fact we can act crazy in SR series but a little bit of a mature tone would do wonders for it. Give us all the craziness but than also provide a proper story that makes sense and is fun to play

Hopefully now with a different publishers that will happen
koehler83  +   1039d ago
So you don't want anything to set it apart from GTA?

You just want it to BE GTA?

That makes sense.
Syntax-Error  +   1039d ago
He's absolutely right!
I loved SR3 and thought it was the best out of the series. I do also believe they have the power to rival GTA because the engine and mechanics are on point. The shooting and controls are top notch. The hand to hand combat destroys GTA in all areas. if they did do a game like Heat, Traffic, or Michael Mann production I think they would blow the roof off. Everyone's fav mission in GTA was the bank robbery if you do a story that's believable and engrossing, you have a hit. I love the customization as well. Playing as myself was such a blast.
-Mika-  +   1040d ago
Wow,that was really homophobic.
Blastoise  +   1040d ago
Wut?
IAMERROR  +   1040d ago
It's Mika
...
That is all

though I gotta admit this statement was really dumb "“[Battlefield] didn’t go after [Call of Duty] by putting dicks on their guns.”"
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TekoIie  +   1040d ago
Really -_-

Nah your not being genuine, your a troll. No way can someone have such a horrible opinion/attitude towards as much as you do.
Axecution  +   1039d ago
LOL
JoelT  +   1040d ago
I still don't understand how you can go wrong with dildos.

On topic: Saints Row is a game that doesn't take itself too seriously and that's why its formula works.
RuperttheBear  +   1040d ago
Sometimes they go in the wrong place, but usually it's a mistake ON PURPOSE. Sorry, I meant it's usually a mistake.
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garibubuprincess  +   1039d ago
I still don't agree with people who think that the tone itself is what made SR3 a disappointment. There was just clearly less thought put into it than SR2.
LordMe  +   1040d ago
I think SR3 over did it. But SR2 had a nice balance going on, and I really liked it allot more.
ape007  +   1039d ago
100% agree but it's still a very nice and fun game, it's like gta's younger crazy brother
Enemy  +   1040d ago
Gears of War would be better without boring gameplay, pointless stories, forgettable multiplayer and characters, and bro-parties.

Edit: It's now clear Cliff tries to put his traumatizing past which involves dildos behind him by making the most generic, laughably bad "masculine" bro game he could possibly make.
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CaptainPunch  +   1040d ago
Edit: never mind I got what you said, I feel like an idiot lmao

Also making an article on someone's tweets is sad.
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omi25p  +   1040d ago
Boring gameplay and forgettable multiplayer.

ok sure, what ever you say.
Sandmano  +   1040d ago
hahaha hahaha xD
ape007  +   1039d ago
Butt Hurt Engaged
TransientDreamer  +   1040d ago
SR3 gives GTA a run for its money BECAUSE it's so over-the-top and silly. If you play the game you realize that under the surface there are a lot of intelligent and humorous references made to many aspects of film, tv, literature, music, etc.

GTA is much more grounded in realism; for SR to aspire to be like Heat or any other Michael Mann film would just make it into more of a, "GTA clone," since GTA already utilizes those tones.
f789790  +   1039d ago
Exactly. They stayed different from GTA and it worked great! If it was like GTA, I wouldn't have bought it because I already have GTA.

If you want to see what happens when a game tries to be more serious like a competitor, look at the Tony Hawk Skateboarding series. Skate was a success and they tried to follow. Nobody wanted it because Skate already did it perfectly.
Root  +   1040d ago
I agree with him

SR3 over did it an everything else suffered because of it....especially the map size

They need to reboot it and go back to what SR2 was like
josephayal  +   1040d ago
IMO
next saints row will be better than GTA 5
Yodagamer  +   1039d ago
If you said GTA 4 I'd agree with you, but we really don't know what rock star is planning with gtav
ape007  +   1039d ago
i loved sr1 so much and others as well but with all honesty if got down to it and get passed all the flash\over the top crazy stuff, SR is just a pretty cheap plastic game, it's not in GTA 4's leagues GTA4's quality, attention to detail, physics, density, atmosphere, humor and overall magical feel of the city is second to non

i cannot imagine how gta 5 is going to be
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ChocolateGiddyUp  +   1040d ago
"Make an open world game that's more Michael Mann/HEAT/Collateral/Training Day."

I love Michael Mann, and Training Day is great, but this is such a bad idea. You can take the dildos or leave them, but the day Saint's Row takes itself seriously, it's all over.
Septic  +   1039d ago
I think the original Saints Row got the balance between humour and 'seriousness' right. The sorry really was gripping even though it didn't feel like it was taking itself too seriously.
smashman98  +   1040d ago
dildo was my weapon of choice you take that away from me and you leave me with nothing :(
E2S  +   1040d ago
Ban guns, arm everyone with a dildo.
creeping judas  +   1040d ago
Dildo's don't kill people, people kill people!!

NDA (National Dildo Association)
aLucidMind  +   1040d ago
Many will wind up very butt-hurt; maybe doubly so.
E2S  +   1040d ago
I'll give you my dildo when you pry it from my warm, lubed hands!

Too much?
Hicken  +   1040d ago
Everybody gets a Funny.
dc1  +   1039d ago
It was the quickest way to take out cars/trucks while on foot.

I loved SR3.
Grlpants  +   1040d ago
Did people really not like SR3? I loved EVERY minute of it BECAUSE it was over the top and sort of made fun of GTA. It was so much fun.

There are way too many games that try and emulate the GTA style. SR3 went against the grain and did its own thing. It's one of the few games that I beat and immediately started all over again.
aLucidMind  +   1040d ago
Many that didn't like SR3 didn't like it because the writing wasn't serious or anything on the quality level of SR2's. It was almost as though Volition mistook our love of the balance they had between incredibly silly and very well-written, serious story as "they only like dildos everywhere" and focused solely on the silliness. It is only good if you don't compare it to SR2, which it significantly fell short in that regard.
chiwoo  +   1040d ago
I loved SR3 it attracted a lot of newer fans to the games even if it was over the top it was bloody entertaining and fun to play which matters.
Soldierone  +   1040d ago
Why? Even my GF was busting up laughing at it, and if you don't like it, you can go replace it with the other weapon.

So tired of people crying its too over the top. At least it wasn't a stereotypical shooter like 9 out of 10 other games on the shelf.... Didn't cliff make Bulletstorm? Thats called being afraid of going over the top. Meanwhile Saints Row 3 was actually one of THQ's highest selling titles, higher than the 2nd one that supposedly everyone prefers.

Honestly people are so uncomfortable with themselves that they are afraid someone else will see them playing a game with a dildo in it and need to shut it off. The only thing that went to far was whats his name with the auto tuned voice, if I wanted my ears to bleed to Lil Wayne I'd turn on crap radio.
Aceman18  +   1040d ago
agreed i loved it because it was so over the top, and didnt take itself so seriously. not every game needs to be serious. sometimes you just need to let go and have fun with what your playing.

also the opening of the game was pure awesomeness lol, i dont think any other game could pull that off.
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Soldierone  +   1040d ago
Friggin loved the opening, it grabbed me right from the get go.

So tired of everything needing to be "realistic" and "serious" all the time, it gets boring. They take the fantasy out of everything.
Aceman18  +   1040d ago
@soldier

exactly how i feel i get enough of that in my every day life over the top games like SR3 is the perfect game to sit back, play and laugh at lol.

guess thats why im loving Ni no Kuni so much its taking my back to my youth when rpgs were about charming fantasies and not the overly boring realistic open world of todays rpgs.
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Moncole  +   1040d ago
You can use another melee weapon like a bat or sword instead.
aftershock  +   1040d ago
Cliff blezinski is a pretentious twat. If I wanted to play a game that's so much like GTA I would go play GTA. The over the topness of saints row with ridiculous things like dildo bats is what makes it unique and fun.
Riderz1337  +   1040d ago
This guy likes to tweet about dildo's a lot. LOL
ziggurcat  +   1040d ago
then what does it need, cliff? more obnoxious, uber alpha male? more cover shooting?
Riderz1337  +   1040d ago
More muscles! DUH!
chobit_A5HL3Y  +   1040d ago
MOAR BACON!!! D:
vickers500  +   1040d ago
More refrigerator bodies
snake_eater  +   1040d ago
Cliff Bleszinski likes it in the ass. Honestly why dafuq everyone thinks hes a great developer?
Sandmano  +   1040d ago
LOOOL this has got to be the funniest article in terms of comments on n4g!
Hazmat13  +   1040d ago
im sorry this guy is an idiot with game like bulletstorm that says "lift up that skirt, and strap that dildo on!" and "Hey dicktits!". he's just an idiot trying to stay relevant.
Nelson M  +   1040d ago
They should have incorporated dual wielding dildo's
Coach_McGuirk  +   1040d ago
it wasn't the over-the-top aspect of the game that turned me off, it was the driving physics..
KongRudi  +   1040d ago
It's not about beating GTA, it's about beeing a fun game on it's own.

This is optional features, it's idiotic to complain about..
If some people think it's more fun to beat up someone with a bat, instead of a giant purple dildo, they can do that.
But if people think it's more fun to beat someone with a giant dildo, they can do that.

I think very few people would think this game would be more fun, if they only had one option.
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Chris558  +   1040d ago
Fuck i want over the top actions and dildo wielding cat mascots
Son_Lee  +   1040d ago
But SR3 was great BECAUSE it was over the top. If I wanted to play a serious SR, I'd play GTA.

Cliffy needs to shut up, already.
Darth Stewie  +   1040d ago
Gears would be better if it had a story.
Rynocirator  +   1040d ago
And again cliffy b proves to be an idiot
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vork77  +   1040d ago
cooler yes, funnier no
stefan771  +   1040d ago
I really enjoyed 3, the dildoes didn't bother me at all. I also really like SR2
TotalHitman  +   1039d ago
I enjoyed Saints Row II more.
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