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Submitted by ZombieKiller 1108d ago | news

DmC top in Japan, but sales under half what Devil May Cry 4 managed

DmC Devil May Cry has shot to the top of the Japanese video game chart, but as with the UK chart its position doesn't tell the whole story.

Media Create reports DmC sales of 110,429 on PS3 with the Xbox 360 version failing to chart in the Top 20. Famitsu's figures are slightly higher, putting the PS3 version at 115,438 and the Xbox edition at 5,857 copies.

However, sales of Devil May Cry 4, released in Japan on January 31, 2008 reached a combined 245,000 copies in its first week – that's more than double the total managed by Ninja Theory's so-called effort. (Dev, DmC: Devil May Cry, Industry, PS3, Xbox 360)

bicfitness  +   1108d ago
Food for thought, that's 250K for DMC4 BACK when the PS360 install bases were significantly smaller. If the US numbers follow the same trend, and it seems like they are, what we have here is a lesson in how to kill a brand.
LOGICWINS  +   1108d ago
By this logic, the Killzone and LBP franchises are "dead" since KZ3 and LBP2 sold less than their predecessors during the same time period.

Yet SOMEHOW, we have Killzone Vita, LBP Vita and possibly Killzone 4.

The drama queens of N4G lol. As long as these games sell WELL, we'll keep getting them. I can guarantee we haven't seen the last of DMC.
bicfitness  +   1108d ago | Well said
Did KZ and LBP sequels sell less than half their predecessors? Were they on three platforms or one? That's three times the marketing, distribution and development budgets. If you knew anything about business it would be safe to assume that Capcom expected the same or a greater return on investment with this reboot. I never said that we would never get another DMC again. I said that they had harmed/ killed the brand and the sales will prove that. You can expect that the next DMC will be a return to 1-4 type entries.

The problem with you, is that you rarely or consider your words before you post. Do us all a favour and try to abide by your name.
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LOGICWINS   1108d ago | Trolling | show
LordMe  +   1108d ago
The entire point of the reboot was to get a bigger audience, sell more copies.

Right now things don't fare very well, unless the US makes up for a massive amount of sales.
bicfitness  +   1108d ago | Well said
" certainly live up to yours =)"

Your repartee doesn't make a lick of sense. I'm uncertain if you realize that or if it is just a side-effect of your need to post nonsense. I am fit, yes, other than that there's not much to infer or discern from my handle.

Moving on, its evident that you don't have anything of substance to counter with if all you have are half-baked, stumbling attempts at wit. Stick to the topic at hand or get flagged for doing otherwise ('off topic'). Here, I'll help you. The sales of DMC's reboot are under half what the previous entry was in Japan and trending about the same world wide. Does this indicate that the reboot was a success? Sensible minds would answer, "no".
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zerocrossing  +   1108d ago | Well said
I don't honestly understand why you are constantly defending DmC.

It's not a bad game by any means but the originals were clearly better and the fanbase was enough to warrant an epic last hurrah for the 5th instalment, wouldn't it make sense to have the superior product succeed instead of the one produced solely to appeal to lowest common denominator?.
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Darth Stewie  +   1108d ago
LBP sold alot more than 2 because it was heavily bundled and came out just in time for the holidays versus LBP 2 came out in the beginning of the year, It still put up great numbers though
Information Minister  +   1108d ago | Well said
@ logicwins:

Except the whole point of the reboot was to increase sales by opening the franchise to a new, wider audience. Even if that meant to alienate the existing fanbase.

But lets be honest here: who exactly was going to buy this game? Not the classic DMC fans, that's for sure. Hack and Slash fans have Metal Gear Rising and God of War Ascension coming soon. Action/adventure fans not bothered by the 30fps have Castlevania LoS2 to look forward to. And there's always Bayonetta 2 in the pipeline.

This game is flopping like I said it would. There's no way to spin it.
kreate  +   1108d ago | Well said
The thing I don't understand is.. bicfitness made a comment on a general level, not siding w any console.

Yet logicwin has to bring up killzone vita, lbp vita, killzone 4, killzone 3 n lbp2 in his reply. It clearly shows him being a troll.
SilentNegotiator  +   1107d ago
Once again, Logicwins uses no logic, and thus does not "win".

1) Neither LBP2 or KZ3 sold as much less from their predecessors than DmC.
2) As a reboot to broaden appeal, DmC has clearly failed.

Once again, I am reporting you for trolling, finding any excuse to attack ps3 games. @Kreate - debubble him. How he got to 6 bubbles with all of his 10 agree, 200 disagree troll comments is beyond me.
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N4GDgAPc  +   1107d ago
I would be suprised if an american made game would sell better than a japan game. Even if it was considered better. Japan can care less about USA games. They usually only care if it comes from japan.

And don't come to conclusions that UK did only 1/3 of dmc4 when they haven't released any numbers yet. If Capcom doesn't release records of it we can assume that it did worse^^
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AsimLeonheart  +   1107d ago
There is difference between the case of DmC and other franchises. DmC was reboot made to revitalize sales, not lose them. According to VGChartz, DMC4 was the lowest selling DMC despite being multi platform. DMC 3 was the highest selling if you combine the sales of both versions (Dante's Awakening and Special Edition). It is a real irony that a reboot made for the purpose of selling 5 million manages to sell less than the lowest selling title in the series. CRAPCOM, NT and DmC have failed to do what they set out to do and that is why the game is a flop. Further evidence of the game flopping is that we do not see CRAPCOM or NT thumping their chests about sales and success.
Tontus  +   1107d ago
Well KZ3 has been tracking almost identically to KZ2, no significant decline there. LBP 2 only sold far less than the first game because it wasn't mass bundled at all unlike the first LBP which is up there with Resistance 1, Motorstorm, GT5 and the Uncharted series in terms of mass bundling.

I don't care if DmC isn't selling as well as DMC4, it's a far better game and that's all that matters.
VileAndVicious  +   1108d ago
Not really a surprise a western developed game didn't sell as much as its eastern counter part in Japan...but those aren't bad numbers considering.

I guess the big elephant in the room is how well did in NA and Europe? Actual numbers that is.
Godmars290  +   1108d ago
If anything killed it, it was the misstep in the initial announcement.

Bit surprising that Western fans of the series weren't the only ones apparently put off.
The_Devil_Hunter  +   1108d ago
What did Capcom expect? They basically pissed off more than 70% off their fans and saw that closer and closer towards the release they still didnt care. Yet something within them remained to keep this reboot. And by then I dont understand whg not cancell it. Did they actually think theh were going to sell more than DMC4!!!! No way in hell! And now they have destroyed everything about my favorite franchise with OG Dante. And at this point I feel like we're not going to see a proper DMC in a long long! Time. I have never seen a franchise gotback to original series after rebooting it.
poopsack  +   1108d ago

Say! Murder isnt allowed in the comments section!
Kalowest  +   1107d ago
LMFAO, It's sad to say, but it was cool witnessing LOGICWINS getting killed
miyamoto  +   1108d ago | Helpful
Cmc, Now the Capcom may cry
Now I know why Shinji Mikami, Hedeki Kamiya and Keiji Inafune left Capcom.

Its a mere shadow of its former self. (sorry for the the Resident Evil reference it just can't be helped)

This is what Inafune meant with "Japan is finished."
Its the westernization of Capcom etc.

Has Capcom lost its faith in Japan? And they settled for a bunch of cocky western developers to make their game?

They better go back to their roots.
NukeXtreme  +   1104d ago
Amen to that. Though I doubt they'll go back. Pride goeth before a fall and boy have these guys fallen. This is probably gonna be the end of the franchise
Kyosuke_Sanada  +   1107d ago
Don't mind Logicwins, he/she is just an ant-N4g troll that's only defending this game because it's the flavour of the month that's all. Soon as this dies in importance he or she will defend another opinion that the world disagrees with.......
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sobekflakmonkey  +   1107d ago
DMC4 was packaged as a hardware bundle with ps3's, so it sold more units that way, this is not the case this time around, also, DMC4 was the first next gen DMC, sooo yeah, suck it, I just bought it on pc.

ALSO! really curious about it's sales on 360 and PC, one platform does not matter, it's total sales that really counts.
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Kurylo3d  +   1107d ago
food for thought.. thats also when there were no games of a similiar genre to compete with devil may cry.. Lots of people have had their fill with god of war, bayonetta, upcoming metal gear rising... etc etc..
joab777  +   1107d ago
No...its a lesson in how hard it is to sell games right now. Most sales are down because competition is through the roof. I would have bought it and played it 1 year ago when i wasnt so backlogged. The video game market is over saturated right now and only certain games will stand out...and even their numbers are and will slip. Watch the numbers for dead space 3, crysis 3 and metal gear. They wont be what they once were. Also, each game finds ways to keep u playing so my average playtime for each game i buy is much higher. I think the critics have spoken and dmc is a good game. U could argue that it may have sold better if it was a rehash of 4 simply because many stuuborn ppl would have bought it that didnt even give dmc a chance. Anyway, it has the potential to keep selling but itll be hard. All games will fall to the wayside when Bioshock and GTA 5 release. Its sad really. I am so glad they made ni no kuni. If u love it support level 5 and capcom.
ZombieKiller  +   1104d ago
Funny, after playing this game I felt the need to submit this article when I saw it. 4 years to develop "THAT"?! It's not even a SOLID 30FPS! Not to mention the ONLY thing good about it was the combat, and thats not even done right as they FORCE you to use certain weapons with certain enemies. Games like God of War, Devil May Cry, and even the new Metal Gear Rising ALL have wonderful combat systems DUE TO THE FREEDOM. Not DmC. THAT...took 4 years. No worries, I bought used only to return it.
Before you say it...yes...I AM a butthurt fanboy and no I do NOT care what the hell ANYONE over the internets think.

The reason I posted this article is the sheer joy of seeing this. I wanted to make sure to share this with everyone as the real reason they changed Dante and outsourced to NT, was because they were TRYING to gain more sales. By doing that, they definitely abandoned the fans. I am one of those fans. Getting a demo for the original DMC1 in RE: Code Veronica, I actually didn't even touch RE! I was literally HOOKED on the demo and the idea of a demon running around with a sword and 2 guns. The obsession did not stop there. Actually, it grew stronger when DMC3 SE released on PS2....but then DIED when I saw that first trailer for DmC. I'm sure some of you know what I mean. I thought the NT move was a rumor at first....then I ALMOST CRIED. lol. The sight of that first trailer tells you the series is dead....lets just hope old demons can resurrect from the depths of Limbo's mediocrity and rise above shitty development one day.
-I'm just happy to see this happen to Capcom, maybe now they will pull their head out their asses and give the game to Platinum Games or make it themselves. Nice article though....I added the "so-called" at the end there....glad nobody cared.
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pr0t0typeknuckles  +   1108d ago
well damn, isnt the whole reason for the reboot to even exist because, as said by capcom themselves "we were not satisfied with the sales of DMC4"
lategamer  +   1107d ago
Whats sad is the DMC4 actually sold quite well. On PS3 and 360, the total was over 2.5 million.

Since then, the install base of both consoles have significantly increased. With DMC5, they would've had an engine already, assets, gameplay, etc. so development cost and time would've been lowered compared to the DMC reboot.

It's a shame Capcom just didn't develop DMC5.
Tales RPG addict  +   1107d ago
CAPCOM is on their Way to being a Dead in the Water Company. They are greedy Pigs and ASSHOLES who don't give a Fuck anymore about their fans. They have the worst reputation, and especially don't get me started with Street Fighter X Tekken's DLC fiasco.

CAPCOM is basically finished.
However NAMCO isn't finished as they actually overall GIVE A FUCK about Their fans. They see what CAPCOM has done, and steers clear away from what CAPCOM does.
zerocrossing  +   1108d ago | Well said
Well I'm calling it now. DmC will not make the return Capcom was hoping for, they angered too many original fans and not enough people defending DmC have bothered to purchase it, honestly it makes me wonder why they bothered rebooting the franchise if they are only to make less than DMC4, the 5th instalment for the original DMC cannon would probably have racked in a lot more with the proper marketing and the entire core fanbase backing it.

Just sit back and watch Capcom's PR try and talk their way out of this one, I expect we'll get the "original fans didn't give it chance" response.
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ApolloTheBoss  +   1108d ago
Sweet Justice is Sweet.
Tales RPG addict  +   1107d ago
Justice is sweet like Nectar.
Revenge is like a Rotten Egg it hurts you in the END.
Godmars290  +   1108d ago
It has more to do with the original being fired or quitting and no left in Capcom directly to take over for him.

I'm also blaming lack of understanding the hardware itself. Likely why DMC4 turned out like it did.
zerocrossing  +   1107d ago
The original creator was Hideki Kamiya If I remember right, he left Capcom and helped to form Platinum games, or at least I think he left I don't remember hearing about him getting fired.

But yeah DMC4 failed because they didn't have enough talent backing it Hideaki Itsuno did a good job but it was nothing compared to DMC3 IMO, I still really enjoyed DMC4 but it was obvious it could have been better.
Root  +   1108d ago
Hell not even them managing to get it perfect scores in reviews was enough to get it sell

I'm sorry but all the big name sites reviews were just too perfect, they nearly ALL said the same thing. Instead of actually reviewing the game they were trying to sell it to you instead and they spent most of the intros calling the so called "haters".

Plus the defence articles just suddenly appearing a month before release.

Things just don't add's clear after RE6 Capcom had to secure dmc's sales another way since they brand name doesn't help any more.
ZeekQuattro  +   1108d ago
Either that or they'll point fingers at Ninja Theory for how the game was received.
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DragonKnight  +   1108d ago | Well said
Did you all know that Tameem Antoniades made a post on one of the review sites twitter thanking them for a 9 out of 10 score BEFORE they did their review? Of course, the tweet was promptly deleted and conveniently no screen capture existed, but it was talked a lot about for a couple days across Devil May Cry sites.

See, so far all the predictions about this game have come to pass. The fans of the old school Devil May Cry made legit complaints about this reboot, were branded as haters who were only complaining about the hair, we said the game would review well (and it has) and we said the sales would speak the truth about how bad the game is. Reviews aren't trustworthy anymore. Capcom will can Devil May Cry completely and Ninja Theory will blame the old school fans for lack of sales the way they blamed Sony for Heavenly Sword and everyone for Enslaved.

I mean, how many times can "we told you so" be said before it sinks in? Fans are the lifeblood of any endeavour. Piss off the fans, and you lose that lifeblood. Counting on casuals is always going to be a losing prospect. They simply are too unpredictable.
ThanatosDMC  +   1107d ago
It's even worst if you're a fan of DMC. They actually gave us the middle finger in the game, when Donte had a white mop fall on his head. They intentionally put that in the game to be a-holes to the hardcore DMC fans.

They should let their game do the talking of how good it is instead of adding subliminal FUs to the consumers.

Watch Angry Joe's review about the game. He states the game is good but terrible on harder difficulties due to the combat system but it's a more "accessible" game for the casual market, but there is nothing worth liking about the characters in the game.

On a side note, I really hope Namco doesnt screw up Dead Souls 2 just to get into the casuals' wallets.
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Root  +   1107d ago
No way....really....did he really do that

Why haver we not had any articles on that, are they all in this together. He must of approved the scores or something.
N4GDgAPc  +   1107d ago
Well I never expected DmC to do better than DmC4. Capcom predicting 5 million copies sold is kind of ridiculous when all other DmC's didn't reach that number.

DmC5 would of probly done a little better but I believe it still would of done worse than DmC4.
Darth Stewie  +   1108d ago
Not surprising since DMC 4 was a let down compared to DMC3 & this reboot is being made by a Western Developer that changed Dante.

Speaking of sales it seems Ninja Theory's games cant catch break when it comes to sales. Heavenly Sword is their best selling title but they complained it sold so little.
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Root  +   1108d ago | Well said
"Speaking of sales it seems Ninja Theory's games cant catch break when it comes to sales."

Maybe if they stoped talking crap and stopped calling fans they would get more people to buy their game.
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TheFallenAngel  +   1107d ago
And heavenly sword was a mediocre game too.
aiBreeze  +   1108d ago
Hasn't Kinect taught us anything? Don't underestimate just how quick western audiences are to open their wallets. I'd imagine Capcom was expecting Japanese sales to take a little hit seeing how they replaced a character many Japanese people considered cool with someone who has a lot less appeal over there.

While I'd personally love this game to fall flat on it's face sales wise, however sadly I think the vocal people against the game are the minority.
deadfrag  +   1108d ago
The haters will continue to hate!We are at the end of a CONSOLE generation its obvious that sales are lower no only for new ips,reboots,or sequels!If this reboot is nº1 in sales in japan.. what to say about other games sales.Im almost certain that games like the new prequel to Gears Of War or the new God Of War will sell lower than expected in comparison with previous game entrys even games like the Last Of Us will sell poorly when compare to Uncharted sales,its just the way it is,the end of a cicle,people are already saving for new hardware and some games even establish brands will sell badly this year or will end been slow burners.The economy dont help too!I f i have to pick a game this year at release day its going to be the one im most waiting for, in my case BIOSHOCK INFINITE; them i have a lot of backlog games that i want to play before i go and pick the PS4 and possible a new xbox,them if i have some money to spare maybe i will pick up other games probably an most likely when they get way cheaper prices.With the new consoles in the horizon prioritize its the word!
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deadfrag  +   1108d ago
I will end up picking all the games i want but not at release date and at $60.I have to save to pick the new consoles since i already own this generation from the beginning 7 year ago!DMC will do very well because its a great game,it will be a slow burner but in the end it will do fine!I fell sorry for all the haters!
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DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   1108d ago
Lets not forget that back when DMC4 came out 360 was not completely dead in Japan. Unless DMC is a big hit in America I cant see the Reboot getting a sequel or the old franchise returning either. Either way it would be a big disappointment. It took 5 years to get a new DMC but the whole series might just end right here.
VileAndVicious  +   1108d ago
...Im pretty sure that DmC will get a sequel regardless. I remember an interview back in August where I think Alex Jones hinted that it might already be in the works

Found it:
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DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   1108d ago
well I certainly hope it gets a sequel. It really is a very good game.
J86blum  +   1108d ago
I liked DMC. it sits next to Devil May Cry 1-4 . (It did a good job at building a back story between the brothers.) Even in Devil May Cry 3 it was already established as Vergil being against Dante. Also I liked how they explain the "hair" everyone is up in arms over and the age old "how does the weapon stay floating on his back." I thought it was a creative way showing why it sits there.

I think im OCD alittle when it comes to floating weapons on characters, or no straps on guns when there should be.
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WeAreLegion  +   1108d ago
I was Dante for Halloween one year. (DMC2 Dante, since he's the coolest looking...)

It's not as complicated as it seems. I had the Rebellion replica on my back all night. (Well, while I was standing up.) It's a pretty simple upper body harness with a hole in the back of the shirt, where you sew the two together with the strongest stuff you can find. We used hard plastic for the actual part where the sword attached. Sweetest costume I've ever worn.
ThanatosDMC  +   1107d ago
I hope you understand DmC is not a part of the DMC series nor the books.
J86blum  +   1107d ago
No tell me more:) im making a comment about a game series I like. Tell me how I never head Ninja Theory and Capcom both said DMC is an alt universe.

Do tell me wise one, since you assume because I liked the game it means I think its canon to the series. instead of being an elitist and coming down on someone you don't know cause I liked a video game. tell, im all ears. -wonka face-

I am not big headed to enjoy a video game for what it is, and not smash it cause it does not go in the direction I want.
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The_Devil_Hunter  +   1107d ago
Ouch. He got you good.
ThanatosDMC  +   1106d ago
They clearly stated it was a reboot.
WeAreLegion  +   1108d ago
Don't hire Ninja Theory to make another one. Let Ninja Theory make fantastic games somewhere else. Go back to the old Devil May Cry and do the same old crap you did with Devil May Cry 4. I won't buy it. Most of my friends won't buy it. In fact, most actual gamers won't buy it. It'll sell well though...and that's the important thing here. Making a good game was never the real goal...

They took a risk and it didn't pay off, financially. As a gamer though, it offends me when people won't play the new DMC. It's one of the best action games ever made and you people won't play it because of preconceived notions? You realize that it's a heck of a lot better than DMC2 and DMC4, correct? Go play it and stop whining. Neither version of Dante likes when people whine.
DragonKnight  +   1108d ago | Well said
You realize that you're acting as though your opinion is the definitive one that everyone should adhere to right? And really? You take offense that people won't play a bad game? Really? I feel sorry for your friends if that's the kind of thing that offends you. But it's not your fault, "offense" is a buzz word thrown around these days that people don't really understand the meaning of.

Ninja Theory can't make fantastic games. They've made 3 actual games so far and Heavenly Sword was the most successful one only because of when it released. If it released today, it'd tank badly. They are incapable of making good games. The only things they do even remotely well are motion capturing and art style. Andy Serkis saved them with Heavenly Sword, no one could save them with Enslaved because the lead writer hated the very concept of the game, and DmC is.. well we're seeing how it is.

"I won't buy it. Most of my friends won't buy it."

I feel like busting out the old "here's a quarter" line even if it's obsolete because... really who cares? Your self-importance is irrelevant and your friends are as well.

"In fact, most actual gamers won't buy it."

You mean like this game?

"Making a good game was never the real goal..."

Point us in the direction of said good game and maybe it will be supported.

"It's one of the best action games ever made and you people won't play it because of preconceived notions?"

Hyperbole and FUD in the same sentence. Admirable.

"You realize that it's a heck of a lot better than DMC2 and DMC4, correct?"

DMC2 maybe. DMC4's only real problems were repetition and relegating Dante to a cameo role. It still had the best combat system of the series and that's why even today there are still style tournaments for the game.

"Go play it and stop whining."

A)Do you have free copies you're willing to supply to people, because that's probably the only way you're going to get anyone to actually sit through this game.

B)Why should people torture themselves playing a terrible Devil May Cry knock off? It may be an average hack and slash, but up against the DMC name it falls flat on its face.

BTW, when faced against these so called "whiners" you mention, original Dante would either ignore them or buy them a drink. Donte would just flip them the bird then try to kill them to show how cool he is. Lame.
Qrphe  +   1107d ago
"You realize that you're acting as though your opinion is the definitive one that everyone should adhere to right?"

The vast majority of people here comment with this mindset in mind anyway unfortunately.
N4GDgAPc  +   1107d ago
True. When I mention something like that they say I'm just trolling them because i attack there opinion. Which reading back my comments for DmC never once did I mention there hate towards the actual game.

When it comes down to it they attack our opinions of the game to. They have the right to though. Thats what this message board is.

"Most of my friends won't buy it. In fact, most actual gamers won't buy it."

That reminds me someone quoting about FF13.

other: No one likes this game because all my friends hate it.

me: Well all my friends actually like it so it must mean everyone likes this game.

Just because your small fraction of friends like the game doesn't mean another group likes it ether. Its called opinions. No game is ever going to come out were everyone is going to enjoy it.

If everyone did enjoy it, god must of created the game because that will never happen^^
DragonKnight  +   1107d ago
@N4GDgAPc: "True. When I mention something like that they say I'm just trolling them because i attack there opinion. Which reading back my comments for DmC never once did I mention there hate towards the actual game."

Don't try to twist Qrphe's words to suit your own gains. He was making a blanket statement that could extend beyond this topic to the site in general. Your ego has no place in it. You also fail to recognize the fallacy in your own words. You stand accused of waiting for anyone to make a statement against your preferences, even when that statement is not even directed towards you, you then proceed to make comments deliberately targeted at said individuals and then claim you're "not talking about their opinion of the game."

This brings up the point that either you are making off topic comments and should have each and every one of your comments flagged as such, or you are attacking the commenter on a more personal level and should be flagged for personal attack. You always seek out the same people to make comments too and they are ALWAYS opposed to the comment you are replying to. You rarely make a comment on your own about the subject at hand until someone else posts a comment for you to pounce on. And where this topic is involved you, like all the defenders, dismiss legitimate complaints as blind hatred over a character redesign. Don't try to colour yourself as a saint when you are nothing more than an instigator.
HonestDragon  +   1103d ago
Bubble up for you, DragonKnight. Well said, indeed. DmC is just average at best, but is no where near the original titles. The characters in DmC were dull and boring, the story was shoddy with plot holes, and the writing was juvenile. Original Dante is way more appealing. Gameplay was solid, but that only goes so far to try to appeal to original Devil May Cry fans.

And about Ninja Theory's other games? Haven't played Enslaved, but Heavenly Sword barely made a mark due to the game's ability to slow down and possibly break a PS3. I have a friend who experienced that. A sad day indeed for him.
NeXXXuS  +   1107d ago
I played Devil May Cry 4 and it was one of the most amazing hack-and-slash games I've played. The old formula for the game worked the best. Ninja Theory just dumbed the whole game down and modernized it thinking that it would receive well with people. Looks like that didn't happen.
InTheLab  +   1108d ago
you know, perhaps nt should do Onimusha instead of DMC.... This experiment clearly failed so how about it...
MoDyDo  +   1107d ago
No just no, one failure is enough
black911  +   1107d ago
Should've kept it a Playstation exclusive. Sales will continue to drop to all franchises that went multiplatform. Dont come crawling back next gen.
NeXXXuS  +   1107d ago
Exclusivity never mattered with the game in the first place. Ninja Theory and a big ego is what happened.
csreynolds  +   1107d ago
No offence meant, but when DMC 4 launched there wasn't a collective protesting against the game and its developer 24/7 on every website that wrote about it.

I'm just saying that ANY game that has been bashed as much as this one has since it's reveal will struggle to sell initially.
LordHiggens  +   1107d ago
Yeah...that was the point of the protest...glad it worked.
saimcheeda  +   1107d ago
Doesn't look like a bad game
But it just doesn't appeal to me. Doesn't have the charm of the old games!
HiddenMission  +   1107d ago
The reality is Capcom's biggest misstep was looking to a western developer to play lead on DmC for character and set pieces. What they should have done is called in Ninja Theory to help them with the story portion an keep the in house team to work on the game assets.

Reboots work a whole lot better if they feel like previous games but with the weakest links being fixed and with the whole Devil May Cry IP it would always have to be the story.

The fact that Ninja Theory changed the story and the look of the game it had no place but to go down with the majority of the existing fan base regardless how the press felt.

The Japanese developers who feel that their IP's are performing weaker than western competition need to then look into bring in western developers simply as consultants but do not radically change everything because you lose the fans who built the IP and take a huge gamble that you will bring in enough new consumers to do more than just replace the existing fans.

I personally don't think DmC is a bad game but it just doesn't have the artistic soul that made up the Devil May Cry vibe. Combat in tact for the most part with some losses and some gains.

At the end of the day Capcom should really look at how they decide to involve western devs with future reboots/projects.
Diffraction_Fos  +   1107d ago
Well it was a big risk to do a rather drastic change like this. It'll either work out very well or it'll crash and burn. There's no middle ground on this one.
listenkids  +   1107d ago
I bet GoW:A doesn't sell well either, it's not the best time for video games in general, unless your name of grand theft call of halo.
TheFallenAngel  +   1107d ago
Lol God of War 3 was the best seller in march when it came out. It beat final fantasy 13 and pokemon for the Nintendo Ds. I think it sold over 1 million the first month.
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listenkids  +   1106d ago
People are so fucking dense. "It's not the best time for video games in general" See this quote? It means now, not 3 years ago.

Keep this bookmarked come March, then smd.
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wishingW3L  +   1107d ago
everything's going according to plan. ;)
The_Devil_Hunter  +   1107d ago
But thats the problem. From here on I feel we are not going to see a Devil May Cry in a very long time, if ever. Its good its bombing but come on.That just means theyre going to kill the series. Like I previously said I have not seen a series return to its original after rebooting. Look at the Batman and Superman films.
Darth_Bane79  +   1107d ago
BThe last Batman trylogy was a huge success, how does it compare to this? AND THE new Superman looks really good too..
DivineAssault  +   1107d ago
pre mature reboot.. They shouldve waited a while longer to release/make this.. How do u go & reboot something thats latest entry was in the same gen? Idk, i wasnt too excited about getting it but i will play it one day
thienlong  +   1107d ago
wait until this game go under 20 buck and ill buy it then they can add 1 to the total sale ahhaha
LordHiggens  +   1107d ago
Nah get it used...17.99 cheaper that way. Then they get no money!!!
SegataShanshiro  +   1107d ago
I like the way you think....
Tales RPG addict  +   1107d ago
Will buy used at GAMESTOP and say FUCK YOU CAPCOM.
kmac2233  +   1107d ago
Loved the originals, I'll check it out when it goes on sale.
grayfoxx881  +   1107d ago
Maybe someone can answer this question. Let's just say that DmC sales tank in Europe and the United States as well. Will Capcom then make Devil May Cry 5, or just abandon the series completely? I really don't see Ninja Theory making a sequel if sales are way south of what Capcom expects, plus I don't think NT has ever done a sequel to any of their games, have they?

I figured the reason for this reboot was due to poor DMC 4 sales, but 4 sold really well. Why would Capcom risk this?
Darth_Bane79  +   1107d ago
Because sales did drop, but the problem is that instead of following with what was already build up and make it better, they went and rebooted the franchise in a way that angered the already small fanbase. Even worse, when looking at the audience reaction they decided to be stubborn and ignore the fans, so then how do you expect to have good sales when you are giving your customers the middle finger?
SaturdayNightBeaver  +   1107d ago
This is not surprising at all.. i still have to play this game and i know very little about it, but only thing i know for sure its not better than original dmc games.
Tales RPG addict  +   1107d ago
CAPCOM is probably going OH SHIT WE FUCKED UP.
Now I can bet they are think OH shit cause they have Alienated their longtime fanbase. I'm one of the Longtime fans.


I used to support you hugely back in the late 80's and throughout the 1990's as a Kid. After the PS2 it was apparent with DLC becoming the Norm that CAPCOM would let Greed get to their heads.
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