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Submitted by Erimgard 581d ago | opinion piece

Wind Waker Wii U: Will Nintendo Anger Zelda Fans…Again?

GenGAME writes: Nintendo dropped a bombshell on us today during their Wii U Direct presentation. Not only did we get our first hints about what we can expect from a new Zelda game on the Wii U, but Nintendo also unveiled an HD remake of Wind Waker for the system as well.

Initial response to the game have been largely positive, but I can’t help but shake the feeling that this revelation is a mirror of the game’s original debut. Wind Waker has, over time, earned its spot among the top Zelda titles, but the game wasn’t so well-received at first. Can it find new life on the Wii U, or will it suffer the same criticisms? (The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Wii U)

iamtehpwn  +   581d ago
Most of the anger came from the fact that when we first introduced to Wind Waker we assumed that it wouldn't be the sort of Zelda experienced we would enjoy but it turned out Wind Waker was one of the best experiences Zelda has to offer. The Art style also allowed for a new type of expression and interactive world. Most Nintendo Fans regard the game as legendary in quality.
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Erimgard  +   581d ago
So you think the reception will be better, now that people are aware of the gameplay? I think that's reasonable, but there's still a lot of people who really want to see that tech demo become a reality.
SerodD  +   580d ago
I don't think most nintendo gamers care about the art style, I mean nintendo knows what works and what doesn't work with zelda, wind waker and skyward sword are a living proof of that. In the end it will all be about the gameplay, the new aditions, the art style means nothing, a game can be beatiful whithout full HD realistic graphics.
zerocrossing  +   581d ago
"Wind Waker Wii U: Will Nintendo Anger Zelda Fans…Again?"

Not at all, the game is a master piece and the art style is consider to have contributed greatly to that. Windwaker HD remake for the Wii U, can't come soon enough IMO.
Kingofwiiu  +   581d ago
Agreed. Windwaker launched way back , what was it 2002 ? I can't even remember off the top of my head , I was there though 11 years old and my body was ready.

A new generation of 12-20 year old gamers has formed since then and they will get the chance to experience WW for the first time with even more amazing graphics.

Windwaker will sell Millions on Wiiu , 100% guaranteed. And it will have a 94 metacritic score calling it now.

Judging by the quality of the overhaul , this is a full on REMAKE. not just a half assed HD collection style game...
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   580d ago
Watching the Direct-

the 3rd Point that Iwata made about WW-HD made it seem like new content would be added and/or 2nd Screen enhancement.

Maybe use the WiiU controller as the camera? *click*
1upgamer99  +   581d ago
The Wind Waker is and AMAZING game. I was disappointed at first seeing the direction Nintendo went with the the graphics, but I Zelda is one of my favorites so I bought it anyway. After an hour into the game I understood why Nintendo went the direction they did. It was a fantastic game, and I for one can not wait to play it on Wii U. The remake looks GREAT.
PopRocks359  +   581d ago
I was pretty disappointed when I first saw the art style as well, but the game was still amazing, both in gameplay and in visuals. An HD remake was perfect for this title and I am very excited. Can't wait to hear more for this and the new title.
Relientk77  +   581d ago
What are they talking about Wind Waker is one of the best. if not, the best Zelda game in my opinion
soundslike  +   581d ago
Everyone seems to be missing the point.

Back then we had a ton of colorful games, in fact we pretty much got them non stop. What people didn't get a lot of, yet, is gritty realistic stuff. Thats just where the zeitgeist was at, the POLAR OPPOSITE of these days where everyone, including me, wants to get back to the colorful vibes, yet gets bombarded with realistic bull.

So there was a very popular idea that the next zelda game should feature a "grown up" link and thus a "grown up" art style. Of course that was obviously a stupid idea, that Nintendo very wisely did not entertain in the slightest and came with a game that everyone, in retrospect, now sees as the best choice they had.
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guitarded77  +   581d ago
Yeah... If Nintendo had made a darker/grittier Zelda at that time, I doubt it would have held up the way Wind Waker has. This conversion to HD looks great and still has the essence of the original visually. I think the change to HD with a grittier Zelda from that gen could turn out harsh, and take away from the essence of the original.
grayfoxx881  +   581d ago
I was so cautious of this game when it first came out. Totally loved playing it though when I picked it up. Will be getting the HD version without hesitation.
kirbyu  +   581d ago
I bet Wind Waker style got 9% because people would rather see a new style than go back to an old one. If they want to play a Zelda game in the Wind Waker art style, they can just play Wind Waker.
LOOK_AT_THIS_I  +   581d ago
I haven't touched a Zelda game since link for the NES. Ready to give this game a shot.
deafdani  +   581d ago
Man, are you in for a treat...
cherbhy  +   581d ago
I should preface this by saying that I was impressed by the Nintendo Direct today and appreciate Nintendo's effort to improve communication with their customers.

I have never played Wind Waker, but I have played almost every console Zelda ever created and a number of handheld versions. I was THRILLED when I saw the tech demo of a new,HD, more realistic version of Zelda at E3 2012. That demo was one of the main reasons I bought a Wii U at launch. I might be eating my words later on (after I've played/seen Wind Waker), but it's very disappointing to me that Nintendo teased one graphical style and then chose another. I fervently believe that a more realistic Zelda would be breathtaking-- both in terms of the grandeur the storyline conjures (it is a LEGEND, right?), and in terms of garnering the support of the gaming community as a whole. And yes, I would stand by that comment in 2014 as well.

But, who am I kidding-- I'm going to buy it either way.
deafdani  +   581d ago
Allow me to remind you that this remake is not THE Zelda game in development for Wii U; it's just more of a delicious entrée. :)

According to Aonuma, the Wii U-specific Zelda game is in development, and it's still got a long way to go before it's ready. We don't know if it will have the same graphics as the tech demo, but even if it doesn't, it will probably look spectacular all the same.

Nintendo actually never said that the tech demo will be how the final Zelda game will look like. It was exactly that, just a tech to show what the system can supposedly do (although I honestly doubt the Wii U can pull off a full-scale Zelda game with THOSE graphics, compromises will need to be made... but it will still look great in the end).
cherbhy  +   581d ago
I understand that it is a remake. I can't wait to play it :)

I could be mistaken, but didn't Aonuma also suggest that the Wii U Zelda would be going with an art direction similar to Wind Waker? From the article I read: "He discussed Nintendo's new visual approach for the game, which apparently is completely unlike the HD demo shown at E3 2011, but wasn't ready to be shown at this time. Aonuma noted this still-mysterious "new style" developed as his team experimented bringing Zelda's many graphical styles into HD."

I'm also wary of "rethinking the conventions of Zelda." It seems like they're trying to appeal to a more casual audience by bringing multiplayer and not requiring the completion of dungeons in a certain order. I agree with IGN writer Troy Fullbuster, who says, "THESE ARE THE BASICS OF THE LoZ series." For that article, click here: http://www.ign.com/blogs/tr... .

Don't get me wrong, I'm still hopeful about the new game. Of course, it's still a long time away. I just hope they don't change the formula too much.

And I think you're probably right about full-scale Zelda game with those graphics. I think that's what irritates me. Why even show it if it's not actually possible on a larger scale? Just seems a bit misleading.

Sorry, this got a bit long.
deafdani  +   581d ago
@cherbhy

Where did that Aonuma quote came from? I see you citing it, and I see that link you provided also cites it, but I don't see a source. The only similar thing I read was that rumor in Zelda Informer that the new Wii U Zelda would take after Skyward Sword's style, and it's that, a rumor.

Anyway, regarding the article about the basics of Zelda, I disagree with pretty much everything the guy said. I loved Skyward Sword, and I loved all the new things it brought to the table. And despite introducing so much new stuff, it still felt like a Zelda game experience through and through. So, I think it's quite possible to make drastic changes like the ones Aonuma cited, while retaining that core essence of what makes a Zelda game.

I liked Skyward Sword's style a lot, but it was one of the Wii games that suffered more when put through an HDTV; the jaggies were horrendous. Play that game on a CRT TV, though, and it will look absolutely beautiful (second best looking Zelda game ever, IMO, after Wind Waker; if you watch it in a old CRT TV, that is, on HDTV it looks like ass XD ).

Eiji Aonuma and the team behind the Zelda games have proven, time and time again, that they know how to make good Zelda experiences, no matter how much they change stuff. I have absolute faith on them, and I think I won't be disappointed. I even think they can pull off multiplayer right. It would be awesome if I could play a Zelda game in coop story mode with my girlfriend... maybe I'm Link, and she's a sidekick companion, who knows?

And your last point regarding the tech demo's graphics: yeah, it probably was just to mislead people and get the hype machine started for the release of Wii U. I think any company is capable of those shady practices, Nintendo included. But who knows... maybe in the end they surprise us and give us a Zelda game that looks close to that tech demo, or even better... I would cream my pants if that happened. XD

It was nice chatting with you, but I won't be able to reply anymore. I'm out of bubbles with this post. :<
ElectricKaibutsu  +   580d ago
After Windwaker only did so-so in sales, Nintendo gave us that grittier, realistic Zelda in Twilight Princess. I know a lot of people on n4g claim it was their favorite art style, but I think that's because they haven't seen it in awhile. I was checking out videos of 1080p emulated versions of all the three recent Zeldas. Windwaker and Skyward Sword look amazing but Twilight Princess looks soooooo booooooring, It's just brown everywhere. It is simply incredibly average. It certainly isn't an art style I'd look back on in fondness.
sdozzo  +   581d ago
It was a great game.
DivineAssault  +   581d ago
This better not be the art style for the nx true zelda game.. Its been done to death already & its nothing appealing after seeing that tech demo.. two DS games & windwaker & skyward sword used similar art & now wind waker AGAIN instead of a new zelda for 3ds or wii u.. Not interested unless its $40 or less
mamotte  +   581d ago
I know a remake is about getting as close as possible to the original... but I really hope they modify somehow the search for the triforce. That was annoying, to say the least, a small -and boring- black spot in a brilliant game.
wiiulee  +   581d ago
when did nintendo anger zelda fans hater...i've never been angered
Gamer-Z  +   580d ago
Never
CaptainPunch  +   580d ago
I hate articles like these -_-
ZeekQuattro  +   580d ago
I loved the last three Zelda consoles games for different reasons. I would of preferred LOZ:TP getting revamped but WW is great too. I loved sailing in the boat and discovering stuff as well as seeing islands in the distance. It made the game seem very huge.
kirbyu  +   580d ago
Ck1x  +   580d ago
I don't think that fans would be angry as this game is now seen as a masterpiece in the Zelda archive of games. But it should be noted by Nintendo that the best selling Zelda games are TOoT and TP, which have the closest art style and design to each other by far in the Zelda series... A happy medium for the next Zelda would be great and a game like Trine 2 shows how a it can be dark and very vibrant at the same time. But I'm excited to play this game in the meanwhile though!
SugarSoSweet  +   580d ago
Windwanker sucks I have no idea why people like this. OOT all the way....
jakmckratos  +   580d ago
I mean I never played this particular game..but Im not exactly jumping at the chance to play over say an HD Majora's mask. I mean I'll try it but Im not gonna buy a Wii U for it at all.

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