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Submitted by MattS 1110d ago | opinion piece

Can partnerships save Nintendo?

Digitally Downloaded writes "Nintendo is going to tackle this problem it has with a limited lineup of development projects for the Wii U through outsourcing. It's going to farm out its most valuable resource - its masses of IP - to collaborate with other developers and publishers to keep the flow of games coming." (Industry, Nintendo, Wii U)

Gimmemorebubblez  +   1110d ago
Who said Nintendo needed saving???
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Trenta27  +   1110d ago
Exactly what I was going to say. :/
MikeMyers  +   1110d ago
The Mayan calendar is now taking a more conservative approach.
Venox2008  +   1110d ago
yea, you are right.. ninty ftw
Fierce Musashi  +   1110d ago
People to this day still think Nintendo are going to go third party.

Shame that, ignorance must truly be bliss.
Kingofwiiu  +   1109d ago
Selling 155 million DS' and 100 million wii's and having the highest selling Software isn't enough for some , LMAO.

And the 3DS is already the fastest selling system ever.

Nintendo has Billions in the bank in capital. They can afford to fail about three generations in a row . lol .
hduce  +   1110d ago
Only the assholes that write these articles thinks Nintendo needs saving.
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ElectricKaibutsu  +   1109d ago
You should probably read the article before you bash the author. It congratulates Nintendo on their good decisions in the face of developing HD games for the first time.
morpha  +   1110d ago
So I come to N4G today too see how people spin that amazing Nintendo Direct in a negative light.

I swear its a skill.
refocusedman  +   1110d ago
I think the writer has a pt. After nintendos dismal software showing with the Wii, I dont think that most (not all) consumers have blind faith in yhe fact that they can fully deliver on the software end. I remember all of the complaints that nin abandoned the hardcore. I doubt this sentiment is gonna change without a ton of support from all developers.
Slapshot82  +   1110d ago
Hi refocusedman,

Thanks for taking the time to read Matt's article, instead of simply jumping to conclusions like the above comments have done.

Nintendo is indeed struggling with the Wii U by raw sales data, but of course, it is still very early on in the system's life cycle. Not only is Nintendo in the hole R&D wise for the Wii U right now, but they are losing money on each console sold too. Then they are spending money to acquire all these developers, as well as to fund their games as well. The Wii U simply doesn't have the install base to cover this kind amount of cash outflow right now.

HD development is very expensive and third party games aren't selling very well on the Wii U - only 5% of Wii U owners have bought Call of Duty: Black Ops II. Are they going to sell any better if Nintendo owns/funds them?

That's the question of the day - isn't it? We shall see, but there is no denying the fact that Nintendo is taking a massive risk financially with this business decision.
Gemmol  +   1109d ago
although it sold less then wii when it was announced, they said that it made more profit then the Wii, I was wondering why people ignore that.
lilbroRx  +   1109d ago
Waait, so you Nintendo is expected to sell as many copies of a game as have been sold on a console with litteraly over 20X the userbase and has a history of huge sales of that game?

By raw sales data, their launch still outdid the PS3 and 360 launches respectably. If that is failing, then Sony and Microsoft must have been bleeding to death when they started last gen.
ElectricKaibutsu  +   1109d ago
More *revenue* than the Wii, not profit. The system costs more so more money comes in. The problem is it costs more for Nintendo too so more money goes out.

I believe Slapshot82 was talking in percentages not the actual number of copies. You have to admit the best selling game last year only being purchased by 5% of Wii U owners vs. NSMB Wii U which had almost a 100% attach rate doesn't look good for third parties.
Slapshot82  +   1108d ago
@ElectricKaibutsu Thanks for your clarification on my behalf and you're absolutely correct in your assessments - Bubble Up. :)

On the other hand though, if the new "Mario" and "Zelda" titles excite consumers and the console starts to truly shift units, then Nintendo's acquisitions of these third party developers have a real potential of paying off for them. That's what I really hope to see happen in the very near future.

At Digitally Downloaded, we write pieces just as this every week and we enjoy getting into insightful conversations on these topics - we'd love to have you around the site. :)
LOOK_AT_THIS_I  +   1110d ago
If they would strike up an exclusive deal with COD the consoles would fly off the shelves. I can't tell you with all the games available to pick from at any given time 10+ people on my list are playing the newest COD. It's all they play, it would be a system seller just because of that game alone. Top it off with all the old franchises and they would be set for the next gen.
G-cis  +   1110d ago
nintendo needs to pay billions to make COD an exclusives ._.
LOOK_AT_THIS_I  +   1109d ago
Don't know how I got the disagrees. There were idiots spending 500+bucks on eBay to play the game 3-4 days early. If they would pull a ms move and strike up a 30 day exclusive launch deal they would reap the rewards.

Activision would never give up their cash cow but a launch exclusive like that would do them a lot of good. The release date had come and gone by the time Nintendo got black ops 2, the install base is going to be smaller because most people who are fans of the series ha already bought it for ps3/xbox
Slapshot82  +   1107d ago
I think it's the fact that the Call of Duty sells worse on Nintendo consoles than any other console. Activision wouldn't even consider this kind of a contract, unless the Wii U's install base was double/triple that of the next generation consoles after a few years of them being on the market, but even then, the Wii U will most likely be inferior power wise - in short, it just won't happen. I think that's why you got the Disagrees.
wiiulee  +   1110d ago
lol what is this craziness about saving nintendo from who and what besides silly haters...wiiu is ahead to stay , nintendo is just reaching out to third parties in new ways, which is great for gamers
LordHiggens  +   1110d ago
Saving Nintendo? Don't they have like truckloads of money or something? I think they're doing just fine...
MattS  +   1110d ago
The article wasn't about Nintendo's finances...
DivineAssault  +   1110d ago
Partnerships huh? Lets see what comes of these partnerships
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   1110d ago
"- a Shin Megami Tensei collaboration with Fire Emblem (I wet my pants at that announcement, I'm not ashamed to admit it either)"


"but you can guarantee that Nintendo is in talks with Tecmo Koei (Mario Warriors?) Capcom (Monster Hunter, staring Link?) and various other publishers that it shares close ties with."
-These sound good too. Link in Monster Hunter esp.

I agree with the authors points in the wisdom of the Outsourcing/farming. I am excited to see who they are working with (PERSONALLY, I hope that they are working with Silicon Knights and if it has to be a "X"...

Eternal Darkness X Fatal Frame? Yes, please.
MattS  +   1110d ago
Oh yes, that's a great idea. Lovecraftian photo tour, haha!

Seriously, it would be awesome if they could bring those two franchises together. Two of my favourite horror games of all time.

I wonder how much of ED Nintendo actually has the rights to though. Silicon Knights is a legal mind-f*** at the moment :-/
NintyJazz  +   1110d ago
F-Zero with Sega anyone?
gumgum99  +   1110d ago
Mass of games and collaborations aside, Nintendo is Doomed!

Doomed to destruction! Its not even Feburary yet, and Nintendo's fate has already been sealed.

Jump for the anchors, lads, this ship is going down!!

For reals this time ( I promise! )
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MattS  +   1110d ago
lol. Do people at N4G ever stop and think that a knee-jerk of a reaction over a headline, and failing to read the 1000+ words that follow after that headline, might call them out as, well, saying something rather irrelevant?
Yodagamer  +   1110d ago
It will be interesting nintendo did alot of collaborations on the gamecube, and i've enjoyed alot of the game that came out of it.
MegaLagann  +   1110d ago
I've lost count times Nintendo has needed "saving" and yet they're still around.

Anyways, Nintendo teaming up with Atlus and Platinum is great, two of the best third party Japanese devs out there. But Iwata said there will be more partnerships to be announced soon. And word for the past few months is that Nintendo has a partnership with a developer that will and I quote "shock the entire games industry". Now considering they've already announced a new 3D Mario, Mario Kart & Smash Bros for E3, what's the surprise they have up their sleeve? Retro's game probably, but also, maybe, this "industry shaking" partnership. I know this is going WAAAAY to deep that it needs to be and may even sound a little far-fetched, but signs point to E3 for their next partnership reveal and anything can happen. I mean a year ago did you expect Bayonetta 2 to be a Wii U exclusive or there going to be a SMT Fire Emblem crossover?
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PS4isKing_82  +   1109d ago
This has to be a response from jaded Sony and Microsoft fanboys following today's Nintendo direct full of awesome goodness.
And they can't take it so now they resort to "Nintendo is doomed" articles to ease their pain.

Xenoblade 2 and wind waker HD are gunna be amazing!
And bayonetta 2 and wonderful 101.

I just hope Nintendo saves some good surprises for e3 and not spoil us too soon.
BeAGamer  +   1109d ago
I really never understood the premise of fanboys.
sitharrefus  +   1109d ago
im sure there will be surprises i wanna what is Retro working on.
PS4isKing_82  +   1109d ago
me too man. im hoping for either a new metroid or sequel to dk country returns!

of course something new and unexpected would be awesome too.
animegamingnerd  +   1109d ago
why do people think nintendo is doom why exactly? people buy their games and system's they aren't in debt like sony or get hated from just about every gamer like EA and crapcom or died like THQ
MasterCornholio  +   1109d ago
Who actually read the article? It isnt a troll article at all and if you want an example of an article trolling Nintendo heres one to read.

"“I think you’re going to see now with the Wii U, notwithstanding its early launch support, nobody’s going to support it. I don’t think we’re going to see every game on the Wii U next year.”

"Finally, Pachter is predicting the demise of Nintendo as a company.
“I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant. They have their niche, Nintendo’s first-party content is great content, and hardcore people will keep buying their consoles, but they’re not going to only play with Nintendo consoles.”"
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ElectricKaibutsu  +   1109d ago
I gotta admit, it gets pretty frustrating on n4g sometimes. You read an interesting article, go to the comments to see if anyone has any thoughtful opinions, and all you get is "the headline sucks and you suck."

A couple weeks back there was an article about the possibilites of the Vita being used with the PS3 for GTA5. People just saw Vita+GTA5 in the headline and literally (literally!) the entire first page consisted of a hundred comments about GTA5 being released on the Vita and how unlikely that is.

I know, I need to just accept it because this won't ever change.
lilbroRx  +   1109d ago
I always thought all of these new games and collaborations were part of Nintendo's following through with their claim to focus more on the core gamer audience.

I guess hit grabbing journalists with a low opinion of Nintendo know more than the company itself.

Every good or new thing they do is somehow spinned into an act of desperation or something else condescending.
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ElectricKaibutsu  +   1109d ago
Great article as usual.

I disagree on your first PS about being upset about having to pay one dollar to add the Wii U features to VC games. If I had to pay full price for a game, then I'd be upset, but a dollar? If you ever get the craving for McDonald's, ignore that and use the money to upgrade 6 or 7 games.

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