We’ve talked about this before, but the fact remains that we don’t have any idea how well or poorly most games are performing on the open market. This message has been driven home once again today due to the coverage of the UK sales of DmC: Devil May Cry.
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A third of that is about 60k copies. Not very strong in truth, and I don't think that the other 2/3'rd are in digital sales.
I will not make a call on this game until I see the worldwide sales, thats when the picture is clear, but so far it's not a strong opening. And I will willing to bet that after this week it will fall fast from the charts.
DmC on amazon is already down to #70 and below on each console, with the PS3 DMCHD outdoing the new game.
Again, no one can make a full call yet, and I won't either, but from what we are seeing, it might not be a strong as Capcom hoped.
For new and popular the PS3 version has gone down to #8 and Xbox 360 down to #24.
If you want Gamestop, it went to #8-9 (360 - PS3) from being #1 - #3 in less than a week.
Noticed that too, lol
So, basically, the only thing we know is that DMC4 didn't sell 184,648 copies in its first week in the UK.
Considering Devil May Cry 4 is almost five years old, I'm pretty confident that they have it right.
For the most part Vgchartz is fairly accurate, but sometimes they are REALLY off the ball. NPD is the most trustworthy source of information for US sales and I guess we need an announcement from Capcom to know how well DmC is doing, although I suspect they'll only announce shipped sales instead of sold to customers.
Digital sales cont count toward numbers for some reason even though you'd think they'd be easier to track lol. And im assuming a lot of sales are digital since theres no tax, better load times, and no disc.
Except EB has tax.
Lol what are you talking about
Digital sales may be a significant share of game sales in the PC market, but no evidence has yet indicated that PSN retail sales of any major release are even 1/4th that of retail PS3 discs.
The 184k plus sales for DMC4 were for Europe not UK, but even then, a third of that us not a great deal.
Maybe you should play it before being a tool?
Kamiya rarely badmouths other developers as long as they are not being dicks towards him.
"In fact, Ninja Theory took a lot of influence from Bayonetta for this one."
As demonstrated with the lack of manual lock on and many other fan favorite features...
Maybe you should think twice before acting like you know anything regarding to Devil May Cry, Kamiya, Platinum Games and respect to other people's taste.
He just said he's glad people are still interested in the franchise as a brand.
""In fact, Ninja Theory took a lot of influence from Bayonetta for this one."
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I find you claim rather ridiculous , but i'll bite and give a chance to explain . Care to develop ?
Every game has workers with potentially family to support .
You could just support a less controversial game actually needing the sales badly and underrated despite critical praises .
That's a ridiculous excuse imo to wish a game success . You buy a game if you like it , you dont if you dont like it , that's all there is to it .
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Your opinion vs mine. I know how it feels not being able to provide for my family because our company is going to the toilet and I dont work full time. If the product is good, why not support it? Heavenly Sword was a mediocre game and I was glad I bought it used. But the game looks like I would enjoy it.
Of course most people wont wish families to suffer , that's not the point nor something to hang over a game's sales and purchase imo .
One thing that also bothers me is when the press try to guilt people for not buying into their opinions and choices of good games (wich is precisely what happened with Enslaved) .
Ultimately reviews are just opinions , not a definitive authority on quality and good taste
EDIt :
"If the product is good, why not support it?"
True , but got nothing to do with anyone's family in the decision
So what? Developers think that they can get away with murder and still make money on it because "They got families to feed". I'm saying if they have families to feed so badly, they shouldn't have went into a business that requires you to put your heart and soul into it and expected to make millions for a cheap cash out.
2) Old fans who don't know how incredible the game is.
Just PLAY the freaking game, people. Play it. Then, you can judge it. It's one of the best action games ever made.
As for the fans of the original series (which you refer to as "Old fans") they were pretty much alienated by Ninja Theory. Everything the fans loved about the original DMC was mocked and disregarded by the company. Some fans reacted in a constructive way and some reacted in a spiteful way.
Either way, you can't deny DmC generated many arguments every time some news was posted about it.
And by now most people had a shot to play the game and the demo to have an opinion . Such excuse wont fly
Should i wear some electronic bracelet while playing the game to prove it to you ? Or could you stop assuming that once someone played it , his opinions MUST change about the game .
Some people played and didnt like it , some did like it . That's all .
And most "haters" on N4g and other site , usually agree that it's a game good /decent or ok ... for some of us just not good enough for DMC . Time to accept such an idea , be they the minority or not .
If every gamer could PLAY EVERY GAME that gets released before JUDGING, what would be the point of reviews then?
Even bayonetta isnt always accepted by all DMC 1-4 fans .
You're basically calling anyone disagreeing with you a liar there . But fine so be it .
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I don't need to play the game to know that:
A) It's too easy
B) The style system is a joke
C) Bosses are pushovers
And don't even get me started on the squirrel semen.
Most people I know that are into games play CoD or FIFA and that's about it. I mentioned Demon's Souls to someone they look at me like I crapped in their pillow.
So yeah, just saying, the whole 'top the UK charts thing' doesn't matter because every new game end sup up there anyway until the new ones comes along.
Complete waste of words.
This game has plenty of controversy, The game performed well at the critics... Its been a glowing success.
At this point I feel people who hate the game for what ever reason should just have a seat and go play something else.
The game is fantastic! And I'm hoping and praying Capcom doesnt retire the franchise and that this game does well enough to warrant another sequel. :-)
Personally, I hope for the game to be a flop, and I'm quite sure it will indeed sell way below expectations.
Why? That way maybe capcom will understand that the silly westernization process they've been supporting in the last few years can only bring disaster, and will go back to make Japanese teams work on their Japanese franchises, instead of a team like Ninja Theory that not only did not pull a single real hit in the whole story of the studio, but they went on to blatantly disrespect (and more than once) the original creators, their vision and their nationality.
When you approach a franchise that has been created by someone else, you should do so with respect. That's what Ninja Theory did not do, and that's what they should be held accountable for.
I too hope there will be more Devil May Cry games. I just hope Ninja Theory (or any other western developer, to be honest) won't be part of it.
People will bitch but if the game sell a shit ton, the developers won't give a fuck and Capcom will probably make another one the same exact way.
Not that DmC is a bad game as I've only played a demo and it seemed alright to me and it didn't make me cream my jeans or anything nor did it give me diarrhea while I wept about it on the toilet.
But with RE6, Capcom certainly pried their arse cheeks apart and eased one out onto their collective faces. You'll get people that say it was pretty good or it was a great action game. It wasn't. I'm a strong believer that someone who plays games for awhile can get a handle on any control scheme with enough practice. With RE6, I'm sure I could of played better with thumbs broken.
But anyway enough of my ranting - Capcom are beyond caring. They proved that when they handed DMC over to another developer and made RE6, showing once and for all they don't give a shit if you're a fan of their old games. They want a payday.
Just play it already!
so im not buying it
There have only been two "DMC" good games in the series. DmC is just fine.
I mean I don't get it. Have our standards as a community dropped so low in the past 4 years that we except inferior sequels and praise them? I mean Bayonetta came out 2 years ago and is so beyond this game in every single way yet it gets the SAME SCORE. Where is the bench mark? Explain this scoring.
When Capcom re-invented Resident Evil, it desereved praise because, all though different, it was better, it was evolved, deeper, more fun, and more complex and complete as a game. This does not fit that bill.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I played the SAME games you played Jose. How is our analysis so different? There has to be some standard. DmC can be a good game(I think it's a decent game) but you can't claim a dumbed down inferior version of something is above or as good as other games of the same genre on your own website. It's not debatable that it has a superior gameplay systen and design. You can argue astetics all day but you can not look at this game and tell me gameplay wise it is superior to Bayonetta, DMC4, and DMC3. Are you suggesthing the presentation, graphics, and storyline are so much stronger than these games that it surpases it's gameplay deficiencies?
Listen, DmC doesn't suck. It is not a piece of Trash game. It is a decent game that feels worse than it is because of the drop off from the original games. Lowering standards should not be rewarded with high scores, I'm sorry. This world rewards mediocrity too much and the video game industry is as well. Please defend your score compared to the previous scores given to games of the same genre.
The combat (with the lack of a lock-on) is exactly like the previous DmC's with even more of a variety in combos. And the way people are complaining with the lack of lock on is surprising since most people complain about games holding your hands or helping you along. God of War has no lock on and is regarded as one of the best action games around. Why DmC is getting flack for a lack of lock-on is beyond me and reaching.
"graphics inferior, runs at 30FPS instead of 60FPS"
"modles, texture and enviroments look worse(THAN A 4 YEAR OLD GAME)"
You must be playing on an old Zenith CRT TV to even think that the graphics are THAT bad. The graphics are very good for a multiplatform game and the way the city morphs and contorts around you is amazing.
"In this game guns espeically have no force behind them,"
This proves you have no concept of the DmC game. The guns were never meant to be a powerful weapon it was meant to keep combos going or extend them, (or interrupt an enemies weak attack).
"power of weapons hitting is incrdibly odd with screen freeze instead of screen shake"
This is meant for a dramatic effect when you finish an enemy off which is very effective cinematic wise, not only is it a screen freeze with your weapon tearing through an enemy but it is also a close up.
The game is good and I'm enjoying it very much. Now is it better than Bayonetta or DMC3 or DMC4....no, no it's not, but not for the reasons you stated above.
I played DMC1, DMC2 and DMC3 and even got the special edition of DMC3, didn't even waste the time to finish DMC4. The series to me is dead and over, Bayonetta is the future of that type of gameplay.
You can call it "DmC" all you want, but we all know why they games where AMAZING "Kamiya", if he's not directing it, it might as well be Heavenly Sword 2. Names don't mean crap to me, I didn't fall in love with names and semantics....the gameplay people.
Bayonetta is where you should be looking at.
God of War is the benchmark other games in the genre are measured against, it alone is the reason the genre is still alive and it's inspired more developers than most franchises ever have.
What did Bayonetta do? The PS3 version was a total disaster, the Xbox 360 version got good reviews but nothing special and overall it sold poorly. Why else would Sega turn down Bayonetta 2 and let Nintendo pick up the IP? Bayonetta didn't do anything for the genre or the industry, you deluded Bayonetta obsessed weeaboos need to calm down with your love for Kamiya and making crazy claims like 'Bayonetta is the future of that type of gameplay', when it inspires half as many games as God of War let me know.
Also the new DmC >>> Bayonetta.
The REBOOT for the game is great as not only does it follow the original gamestyle nicely but it also changes the setting enough to be a new series. Old DMC fans shouldn't complain as they should think of this as a new series instead of a continuation of the old.