GR - "Former presidential candidate and outspoken critic of President Obama compares video games to pedophilia."
his stupidity is molesting my brain...
Friggin awesome commet mate! I bloody agree. Ps im not really english i just wanted to try typing like a brit.
commet? Dont think brits spell out their accent also remove awesome which is considered american and put wicked in its place =>)
Are you saying we cant spell? also wicked, Awesome or frigging aren't "English" terms.
This is going to sound REALLY REALLY bad, but people of his era kinda need to educate themselves, or die off lol. God that sounds terrible but its true, their generation do not understand something they never were accustomed to and grew up with. Why does nobody say cell phone users are bad and cell phones are killing societyÉ The generation that grew up around games and understand games should be the ones that say whether or not they are good or bad for society. All this does is confuse people such as my parents when they watch the news. I mean, CNN claiming Modern Warfare was a game where you played as a terrorist and killed civilians, when really that was one mission that was almost integral to the story, and you could choose not to shoot anyone AND at the start it even gave a disclaimer saying you could omit the scene altogether. The media and these Èdeath to video gamesÈ people need to crawl out of their holes and educate themselves for GODS SAKE!
Then you should of said. The bloomin' frogs and logs gonads comment China Plate, I agree. Or if you mean you wish to have typed with a slightly more sophisticated tone then may I suggest, What a humours statement to make sir, One entirely agrees.
Ralph Nader is a genius and pioneer. He took on GM and other huge corporations to make changes that saved lives, i.e. seat belts. He is a personal hero of mine, but he is out of touch now with comments like this, sad.
When someone knows very little to nothing about a subject they really need to think before they speak. Ralph Nader was relevant 40 years ago, now he is just making a fool of himself following the pack of knee jerk morons out there that need to find a culprit other than the person that committed the crime to blame.
Title is misleading. I'm still trying to find the correlation.
Does anyone else find it ironic that he looks like a really pervy monopoly guy?
Think it's dumb trying to blame violence on entertainment. Though they do exaggerate at times we have to accept that we as humans are a violent species. That being said yes it needs to be control but to censor it from entertainment is just plain stupid. What passes me off is that they go on giving gaming a bad name and I ask myself "why haven't they played journey, SotC, ICO etc.?"
A single man who never marry anyone in his life claims video games are electronic child molesters? What a dumba##!!!
Stupid old fart living in the past. Things change games are evolving and more and more people are enjoying them so get over it. Oh and you comparison is just about stupid as it gets.
Politicians...why are they always so stupid?
...because stupid people vote for them?
I actually got a nice chuckle from that headline...
omg we must be twins..
There's a reason he's run for president four times and never gotten close
Sorry to say you're wrong Ralph..But its the church that deserves that label
Hey, take that back! I've been a Catholic my whole life, and I will tell you, sir, there's nothing electronic about us! I don't even think I've seen a priest use a cell phone!
Dont know if youre joking and I don't know whether you believe in a higher being or not, but comments like that are troubling and misplaced. Unfortunately there has been horrendous occurrences of sexual misconduct in the church as emphasized in the Catholic Church. I'm not here to place religious views upon anyone, but Christianity does not teach nor support such acts. Don't know if you have read the Bible, but it's a great piece of literature and as a person who appreaciates literature I urge you to give it a try if you have not. Just like the Quran does not teach hate and true Muslims are not terrorist, the church is not suppose to practice immoral conduct. I think what most people don't realize is that Muslims, Christians, Budhist or what have you are fist and foremost human and prone to error. This is not to say that excuses people from committing heinous acts, but to say we are all prone to error. Not attacking you personally, but I just wanted to educate those because your statement whether joking or not paints Christianity in a negative and quite false light. I think what we have to be careful of stereotypes, as we tend to generalize things too much and clump everyone and everything together.
If you *voluntarily* associate yourself with a group, you have no right to put the blame on people for associating you with that group. "Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation. It is better be alone than in bad company." -George Washington
Are you 4 real dude?
way to suck the air out if the room, asshat
Just wow! I suppose the Earth is flat as well huh!?
As a former Nader fan, I'm now officially betrayed.
Stupid fucking politician!! That's the problem with our government we have to many old fucks still In office from our grandparents generation. They don't know anything about the new gen. We need new blood, younger senators and such who know what's actually going on in the world and not relying always on so called research info. Some of which could be falsely giving just to get things done their way. The Politicians are the pedophiles raping our liberties every chance they get hike in taxes no jobs fucked up economy that's rape of the US citizens, man don't get me startd on politics..I'm gone, before I become Gamer/Politcal prisoner because of my views on our American society as a whole. And I apologize to anyone if my views offended you..wink wink not really!!
i totally agree. The government right now is just so f***ed up, its not even funny. Sometimes i just wanna get out of this country. We NEED a younger generation to run this country. All these old farts are just a bunch of wackjobs that don't give a flying f**k about us, they just care about their damn money. I see why a bunch of the states, including the one i live in, want to break off from this craphole country ruined by this government.
and the NRA called us a "Corrupting shadow industry." At least when we get insulted now, we get some great band name ideas out of it. ... may just shorten this one to "electronic molesters," though. kinda hard to market the whole thing.
Poor guy, senility must be kicking in. "Child molesters, child molesters everywhere!"
The child porn on his computer has taken a toll on his mental health.
I can't take him seriously as far as games anymore. using hot button terms.
"He has been called a mediocre man; but this is unwarranted flattery. He was a politician of monumental littleness."
And now THIS, my God this is crazy.
I have a lot of respect for Nader. He is a smart guy and usually on the right side of most issues. Above all else, I believe he is one of the few "politicians"(not sure I'd call him a politician, I don't believe politics are what he wants to do)who is actually honest. Check his Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... On this issue he couldn't be more wrong. I think he has become a little cynical with people for not having the sense to vote their own interest. The American people as a whole are far more senile than Ralph Nader.
Fuck him, i´ll judge him on his ignorance, he's just another rich white conservative male that problably has more guns than i have of videogames. They are really trying to pin all this shit on videogames and fail do realize what´s the real problem. As a gamer i take offence of all this shitstorm of ignorance and corruption that circles these so called politicians.
Then judge yourself on your ignorance. What is conservative about Ralph Nader? Didn't you notice he was a Green Party candidate. Before that an Independent. He wrote a book in the 60's titled Unsafe at any speed. That book and his law suits against the auto industry are the reason cars are safer and we actually have seatbelts in them. He sued so that the Auto industry could no longer put profits ahead of driver safety. He is an environmentalist and has fought for many regulations to help save it. He has fought to get corporate money out of politics. He has never accepted a dime of corporate money. He has fought for dis-enfranchised voters. Cleaning up Wall Street. The reason he has never been elected is because anyone paying attention knows he really believes in those things and it would completely change this country if he got into office. For the better for most of us. But far worse for the clowns that are ruining it now. -Nader's Raiders (Federal Trade Commission) -Vanishing Air (National Air Pollution Control Administration) -The Chemical Feast (Food and Drug Administration) -The Interstate Commerce Omission (Interstate Commerce Commission) -Old Age (nursing homes) -The Water Lords (water pollution) -Who Runs Congress? (Congress) -Whistle Blowing (punishment of whistle blowers) -The Big Boys (corporate executives) -Collision Course (Federal Aviation Administration) -No Contest (corporate lawyers) -Destroy the Forest (Destruction of ecosystems worldwide) The above are some of the causes he has fought for. There is nothing conservative about Ralph Nader. He is on the wrong side of this issue. Maybe he was born too late. Or more likely the reason is he has spent his entire life fighting more than an opponent on-line. And judging from the number of disagrees I got and those that agreed with you, maybe some of the people on here spend too much time gaming. Because they lack the knowledge of politics to judge anything someone like Nader says. He has done more than enough right to get a pass on this issue. You should really check that link. Treehugger would fit Nader better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Nader has done a lot of good things in his career, and he should be applauded for them. However if he makes an asinine comment he should be called out on it. Granted it's pretty obvious by the comments on here that most of the people commenting on him have no idea who he is. I've generally have respect for all the work he's done in the interest of public safety and environmental issues, but this comparison is just damaging to him and the gaming industry. It shows a complete lack of knowledge on gaming, and makes it seem like he's another pundit in the mainstream, which he generally is not. People listen to what he says, quote what he says, and use what he says, so have no doubt we'll hear this statement in the future.
Ralph Nader is a idiot.
Ironic since these are the people that are always ACTUALLY molesting children.
*Facepalm times a hundred*
The meeting before this announcement. Ralph Nader: Help me guys I'm completely irrelevant give me some crap to say so that people take notice of me. P.R. Guy: Uhhh…. Why not compare video games to pedophilia? Ralph Nader: Fantastic boys. Let’s roll!
I guess you can say Nader is irrelevant. But that is because the voters of this country are the idiots. Here's what we would have or be closer to if Nader had been elected back in 1992. Affordable education(that actually works too). Affordable housing. National healthcare. Pay equality. More money in your 401k because he would have locked up most of corporate executives by now. Cleaner water. Better gas mileage. Fewer political ads. The American dream would be re-instated. Lower taxes. Fewer dead soldiers. The list of changes for the better are far too extensive to name.
What a person says they will do and what they actually do when they become president are 2 very different things.
What Nader has done for more than 45 years says a lot about what he would have done. As much as politicians have tried to drag him down over the last 45 years they haven't been able to. He has always been clean. He has never gotten corporate money. He has never been caught in a compromising position. He has never wavered one bit in anything he has said and no one can show that he has. You can't say that about any other major political figure. No mistresses, no side money, no kick backs, no nothing. I don't think they have ever even accused him of anything because they know it would never stick. Instead they blame him for nonsense like Gore losing. Though Gore lost his home state. Yes the state he represented in congress. They couldn't have stopped him from arresting the criminals on wall street. He could stop their wars. Healthcare, easy to nationalize without congress. Just like politicians use signing statements to ignore things, they use executive orders to add things. He would have changed a lot. He would have stopped the war on drugs. Obama goes after people in states with legal marijuana because he wants to. He doesn't have to. Obama didn't arrest anyone on wall street because he chose to look the other way. Fraud was determined. If Obama was honest, this country would be different. Nader is honest. He would have made this country different. And that's why they keep people ignorant about him. Or i should say people choose to be ignorant about him. Just like when the third party debates were blackout by the media. no one spoke up. This country is stuck on stupid.
But 1992 was 20 years ago, it would have been good to take notice of him then when he was relevant. Now he is not so he attacks something that will bring him media attention. You might as well complain that science was held back by 2000 years because people didn't listen to Democritus or Hippocrates and gave too much attention to Aristotle.
Wow a real psychotic character. Whats worrying is his was a presidential candidate - could you imagine how the US could change by such a lunatic. Maybe it's all those innocent childhood years of watching Tom & Jerry cartoons then going out into the street and clubbing ppl to death and being surprised that they didn't pop back to normal shortly afterwards thats warped his mind. Ack I remember now Tom & Jerry was really Paedophilia.........
I really feel like shooting this guy in the face, because i play violent videogames. But wait, i don´t have a fucking GUN.
Look at his face. Monument of stupidity.
Dear Politicans here in AMERICA stop spouting BULLSHIT and saying Video Games are the Main underlying cause of gun Deaths as this is not entirely true. It's Moderate Gun Control that should be implemented in the first place. Background checks should be made on people buying guns. If they are drunks, Crazy people with illness and mental disorders like Sociopathy,and other Mental disorders or have a criminal history. Then they should be denied buying Guns for LIFE.
If a person is unstable and is prone to go and kill other people, video games will neither trigger it nor hold it back. Typically, the trigger is a highly emotional life event. Typically, when I play video games I find it a great way to relax and relieve stresses of real life. Why shoot someone and go to jail? I can go on an epic killing spree online and everyone calls it fun!
Well, he wrote a book that shook down a car company for damages and lead to the current seat belt and air bags paradigm in cars. Now he's trying it with video games. Except it's pretty erring hard to die in a video game collision so I doubt anyone will do anything to shut him up. They'll just let him embarrass himself. " Background checks should be made on people buying guns. " They already are. The 40% gun-show loophole number is bogus and it mostly only applies to people selling used guns as private citizens or giving them to family members. Almost no gun dealers will sell direct to you at a gun show with no background check because if they get caught (and they know that most of the straw purchasers are part of entrapment schemes or crooks) they'll lose their FFA license. So they'll just say no and do the background checks. Evbn most pawn shops do the background check. There is nothing "moderate" or "reasonable" about the gun control being proposed. it is intrusive and won't prevent anything because guess what...murderers don't bother to follow laws and neither do black market gun sellers.
What an ignorant fool.
I agree gaming has zero to do with violence in real life. Politicians know this but they are pandering to a certain group of moron. Many of those same politicians love the military. And the military loves gamers. The reflexes gained by playing shooters fits what they want in a soldier. The military uses games to make soldiers willing to kill easier. It's funny that the military uses shooters to get soldiers to shot faster, but more than anything in basic they break them down and build them up to make them into killing machines. The same thing the politicians claim the games have already done. The real kicker is that the US military was already as good as it gets at killing people. No one in history has ever done it better. And our military has never been as good at it as they are now. Many, if not most, of these soldiers being gamers. The military simulators have made it easier for them to kill. But never in the history of this country(or any other that we know of)have so many soldiers committed suicide once they get back home. No one can figure out why. I think the real problem is that since they like the ability of guys that play shooters, they have recruited them heavily. They are getting kids with better reflexes, that they can mend to their need for killers. But what they don't want to acknowledge is that when they are through with them and they send them home, they have a hard time fitting in. Because they didn't go into combat as ready made killers trained by video games. Because combat isn't a game. And they gamers, not killers. But believe me. Nader is often the first to speak out against war.
I fail to see how the average game can even relate to pedophilia. He may all well say phones and public parks are to blame as well. It's the pedos that are at blame, not the venues they chose.
He's not saying that gaming causes pedophilia, just that violent video games, and by extension those that make and sell them are just as bad as child molesters. I suppose the fact that most children aren't traumatized for life by video games isn't relevant to his comparison.
He makes Dan Quail look like Einstein!
Huh, the real-life Buzz Killington is angry about something?
Ralph makes Jack Thompson look like a genius.
no....but they could be bros from different hoes
OK so playing videogames has the same effect of been molested? Is this guy for real? Perphas he should experience both and then we could ask him whether the 2 experiences are comparable in any way. shape or form.
Im gonna go play a game and feel good about it. raplph no nads
His mind must be going.
Of course he labels video games as the culprits behind those tragic events. Meanwhile, he decries other violent media and how it's so accepted and also calls Obama's inauguration "political bullsh*t". I could care less about him always speaking his mind, but the mere fact that he uses such language and false idealism of pop culture just shows how out of touch he is with today's society and how unprofessional he is. Oh, and comparing video games to pedophilia? Pure crap being spewed from an old politician who doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut. Does he even know what pedophilia actually means or details? You don't see hundreds of thousands of gamers running out there like madmen looking to start fights or scope out gun shops like mentally insane perverts. Nader is simply an old man who doesn't like where society has gone and lets his immature view of it make himself look bad.
Wow what a disgusting idiot - it's sad when gross idiots like are busy pointing fingers at ridiculous things instead of solving problems and creating solutions. He is molesting the American people with his politics.
That's why Ralph Nader is Ralph Nader and not the President of the United States.
What about TV stations like TLC that shows the crap it does, should be more a target than anything.
I love how these Politicians group videogames into one categeory - VIOLENT. So games like Journey, Flower are considered evil too. Stupid uninformed comment by Ralph.
WHAT DA FUQ IS THIS MAN TALKING ABOUT!