A deal between Nintendo and Capcom which would see handheld Monster Hunter games coming exclusively to the 3DS for the next three years has appeared.
Man, I have a 3DS, but Monster Hunter 4 should have been for Vita... Seriously, the game could have looked and I'm sure played much better with two analogs. Not to mention MH on PSP was the go-to thing for people especially in Japan. A lot of those people probably got a Vita in hopes of the next one on there. Oh well though, not like I'd give Crapcom any of my money for ANY game anyway. Just putting in my two cents, which is my opinion of course. Nothing less, nothing more.
Well, they'll wish they hadn't signed this once Soul Sacrifice comes out and takes over, without any major competition.
actually no, i dont think so... maybe ppl that own vita my wish they bought a 3ds? and maybe they will considering the normal 3ds is less than 150$. But hey thats just what i think... i mean what do i know? im a nobody just like you.
@strifeblade I owned my 3ds first and until the new Pokemon have regretted every second of it. Only a hand full of games I actually enjoy, no features outside of games which make the 3ds a valid purchase, the Nintendo store is a hot mess, the 3d feature makes my head hurt. I love that I have an r4i that works on it but if the 3ds isn't cracked soon ill never own a 3ds game outside of Zelda which came with the special edition. I think capcom is shooting themselves in the foot with this deal.
The funny thing is, anyone who wants to play monster hunter on Vita right now can go download "Monster Hunter Freedom Unite" from PSN for around 15 bucks. ....and it probably looks better then the eventual 3DS version. This is a missed opportunity though. I've been dying to see a MH game game with actual shader/lighting fx's and good graphics. Oh well. It's a new Gen, this is an old franchise. Something will rise to take its place.
Looks like Nintendo is trying to kill the Vita.
A corporation trying to kill their competition? This is one for the history books, folks!
Monster Hunter 4 and Pokemon XY Indeed the vita is pretty much dead
There are other games that can be big for systems. Monster Hunter was a new IP last gen, who would have thought it would be this successful. The same thing can happen this gen with a different game. With that said though, if this is true, then it is a big blow to Sony. But it's not over till it's over.
Another finger pointed at Capcom's loony-bin!
Yea this is kind of bewildering, perplexing even.. I surely would have thought that this game would have made it to the Vita as well. For the life of me why wouldn't THEE most popular game in Japan be available for the Vita. I know alot of people would be excited everywhere. But this is definitely a power grab among handheld consoles because whoever gets Monster Hunter will almost instantly increase their console base.. If it happens this will be a tough lost but again this doesn't mean the Vita will die.. I am thinking that Soul Sacrifice and Phantasy Star Online 2 may be pretty big titles for the Vita. But really MH is a pretty big title NOT to have... Doesn't mean that I am gonna pack my Vita away LOL Peace
i doubt this since MH franchise is a big hit on every console so maybe 3-4 6 months exclusive. unless Nintendo paid big bucks i don't see 3 years exclusive period
I think we can ALL agree this is way worse than COD DLC hitting first on Xbox for 3 years...
funny the other source say "Rumor: Monster Hunter franchise is exclusive to 3DS until 2014"
MH can go to hell. I dont give a flying F about this game anymore! Trying to kill the machine that BROUGHT them where they are now! What pricks. I hope they get served with bad sales! Soul Sacrifice all the way!
Good riddance!!, when GTA was exclusive to the ps2 for a couple of years I doubt anyone was complaining like little b*tches, glad this series is exclusive on the 3DS and WiiU, glad the handheld I love is getting amazing support :) Now in two months time I'll be getting a WiiU for the sole reason to play Monster Hunter in HD
I know that's your opinion but it's wrong 3ds isn't that great of a system it's only relevant because of pokemon, and Zelda. Not going to lie the Mario games been shit. The wii u yea it's good but you will stop playing it a month in. Monster hunter isn't really good game either.... Again all is my opinion. I had 3ds for 3 months regretted it then sold it instantly, have the vita a much better handheld system that when it has games coming to it just puts your 3ds in its place 6ft under the ground...
"Man, I have a 3DS, but Monster Hunter 4 should have been for Vita... Seriously, the game could have looked and I'm sure played much better with two analogs." This why not everyone can be made CEO of a company - MH Vita with better graphics would mean that the developers would have to spend more money than what they did with the 3DS MH. Now tell me how this makes any sense business wise to spend more money on a game that does not even half the install base that the 3DS has? Consumers do not look at the spending cost part of making a game and only look at the receiving end which is just make the dam game and do not worry if it bombs or sells...this is why Sony is in the red right now because the make game like iNfamous, Heavy Rain, Twisted Metal, Battle Royal, Killzone and Resistance which are great games but do not sell enough to break even or make a profit.
I definitely would have tried the game out had it come out on the Vita in a reasonable time. Just another reason for me to not play my Playstation Vita... again...
Just another reason not to play your Vita again? Dude that got to be the stupidest thing I ever heard other than the word "Bazinga". What did you buy it for?
Don't mock Sheldon's Bazinga good sir... D:
I also think the word Bazinga is moronic to the point of no humor and usually I find stupidity funny but that is not even funny stupid, it's just stupid. Mock it all you want.. Ugh just saying the word Bazinga back to myself makes my spine shiver in the most unpleasing way.. I also agree it's even dumber acting as if Monster Hunter is the only game if it were on the Vita to be worth playing.. It's not.
" What did you buy it for?" Fell for the Sony hype? It happens to the best of us.
We as a people have a stick up our collective butts...We need to find out sense of humor again. Why so serious folks? Big Bang Theory is hilarious.
I don't understand to be honest, I mean I understand from a business point since the 3DS is outselling the PSV but with the PSV they could do more with the franchise
For some people and some companies then paycheck is more important than the quality of their work. There are few companies that put both quality product and revenue on the same playing field. In case you haven't figured out yet, Capcom is not the latter of the two.
Never played MH before it seems to be a quality game, otherwise why would people care so much. But hey thats business.
3DS is outselling the PSV something like 20:1 in Japan. Last gen the PSP had a good initial uptake in Japan off the back off the PS2. The PS2 was popular so some of that translated to PSP sales. Unfortunately the PS3 isn't quite the hit the PS2 was and Sony no longer hold the exclusivity of intellectual property that they once did. There's far less reason for the Japanese to pick up Sony's new handheld than there was the PSP and as a result it makes sense that publishers like Capcom would want their games on the most popular system for their target demographic. With the Vita's current install base it's really not worth developing for, to be honest. At best you're looking at 500k units sold. On the 3DS you can shift a few million. There's a big difference and I imagine that alongside the incentive from Nintendo made it an easy decision.
@ChronoJoe That's somewhat true, but the thing is. Monster Hunter is what pushed the sales of the PSP in Japan, not riding off the PS2. The PSP wasn't doing huge numbers in Japan until late in it's lifecycle, and it's still doing well which is the problem. The PSP is cutting into the sales of the Vita. World WIde both the PSP and PSV are selling similar numbers 80k per week.. The Vita has a near even split across the world (30k, 30k, 20k), while the PSP is selling (2k, 9k, 70k), and that 70,000 is being sold in Japan alone for the PSP. On top of that Monster Hunter is a system seller in Japan as proven by the significant boost in sales when the games came to the PSP, and when it launched on the 3DS. Capcom knows this, and they know that if the release it on Vita it's still going to sell 1+ mil copies. THey just don't want to take the chance. They'd rather have another PSP quality game and a check than improve the entire series by releasing it for Vita or even consoles.
It's like people are forgetting the last console generation. The Xbox was much more powerful than the PS2 and the GameCube was slightly so, and yet all the big games came out on the PlayStation because, like the 3DS, it had the larger install base. I never heard anyone complaining then.
If it was exclusive to the 3DS, why would it come to the Wii U? Unless he means, it's exclusive to Nintendo for 3 years. So, would 4 be the last game to be exclusive to the 3DS or does it start with 4? Also, I thought Nintendo doesn't pay for exclusives.
All "handheld" Monster Hunter games will be exclusive to the 3DS.
Never mind I get what you are saying! The source is from 2011, so that means the exclusivity will end next year? This does prove why we won't see a monster hunter game on the Vita this year.
That's what seems to be up in the air.
I guess they do now. They shunned a lot of third parties previously so it makes sense to change their policy. They also netted Bayonetta as an exclusive too by offering to publish it.
Wait, what's the difference between exclusivity for "handheld Monster Hunter games" and "all handheld Monster Hunter games"? Both are pretty inclusive.
Were nintendo worried about the 3DS or did they just want to create a monopoly? i find it strange that both Square Enix and Capcom steered completely away from the Vita in terms of original content even before it had launched, when they supported the psp quite strongly. I would have thought games like Kingdom hearts and RE:Revelations would have always had the intention of going multiplatform. Especially with the VIta's added power and dual analoge sticks. Financially both companies could have sold an additional 400k for each respective game. Probably even more judging 3rd party numbers for Persona 4, Rayman Origins. Hell even ragnarok sold 200k and it isn't even out in europe yet (same for persona).
I don't get it either. It makes no sense from a business standpoint or a developer standpoint. My guess is the Vita sales aren't doing so great, but even then you would expect a PSP version since the 3DS is basically a PSP+ and the PSP is still doing big numbers in Japan (although weaker than the PSP in a few places). Which leads me to believe this was Nintendo's way of trying to stop the Vita and mobile devices from breaking more ground into their handheld marketing that the PSP already claimed. The DS outsold the PSP by a large margin, 150+ mil to 70+ mil. But the DS is now selling less than 3,000 handhelds a week, while the PSP is still pushing 100,000 per week. No one has ever gave Nintendo this much trouble in the handheld industry, EVER. On top of that developers are starting to take mobile games more seriously. So what do you do? Kill the competition. All that Wii money is being funded into the 3DS and Wii-U in an attempt to get major franchises and core games on their handheld and console to prevent mobile and Vita from hurting 3DS sales, and to keep 3rd party support for the Wii-U when the PS4 and Xbox 1080 launch. It's a great move for Nintendo, but it sucks for people who want to see advances in technology and their games.
I could only think nintendo money hatted tons of exclusivity... I remember capcom initially showed demos of monster hunter on Vita as well as lost planet, they even said that the MT framework (engine behind RE:Revelations) was in process of being adapted to the Vita.
It makes alot of sense from a business stand point nintendo pay you to make a game and you release a game that has cost you next to nothing to make and you reel in the profits on a console that has sold 9 times as many unit. As for the vita games will be quite large as it will be nearly as costly as a ps3 game so why wouldn't you make ps3 game instead with a big user base. Also alot of people already beleved the handheld market has been cornered by tablets and phones
@nirwanda That's not true. Vita game development cost are slightly higher than the PSP which is in the same ball park as the 3DS. That being said I know it's all based on money, and Nintendo probably wrote a check to Capcom, and Capcom is all about the money nowadays. The PSP released in December of 2004 in Japan, and early 2005 WW, only selling 10 million handhelds by year's end. But Capcom still put the first Monster Hunter on PSP and it's sold as much as the 3DS version with the 3DS having a larger install base 14 million. On top of that they've managed to release a entire 5 part series of Monster Hunter for the Xbox 360 in Japan........ Yeah it sold like crap. I don't know about Capcom anymore. They don't care about the games and quality, they only care about sales, and when you don't care about both that's when you've lost me.
A MAXIMUM of three years...what's the minimum? If there even is a minimum.
RIP "VITA IS DEAD" COMMENTS.
At this point, I don't care what console it's on. Just release Monster Hunter 4 already lol
this is just a rumour chances are we could see monster hunter 4 portable/freedom or G on the vita
I would like that very much :)
Wow, people bitching about exclusives yet its the reason they support the PS3. Oh, I get it, its only OK if its an exclusive on a Sony platform.
There is a difference between first party (Second) and third party exclusives. You also have to remember Nintendo has a good share of first party exclusives as well. I still stick by what I said, I thought Nintendo doesn't pay for exclusives. Now we are hearing they have a 3 year exclusive plan for MH and I don't see where Capcom could use Mario in one of their games (So money was a factor in this).
It could just be that Nintendo and capcom have a close relationship! After all Nintendo did help publish MH3 in the west and I believe they even helped with marketing in japan as well.
What makes you think they paid?
Nintendo and Capcom have been working together since the 80's, so it shouldn't be a surprise that this kind of thing happens.
@Godchild Sometimes marketing and support is also traded for exclusivity. Not just money / rights to intellectual property.
If Nintendo is doing Marketing for a Capcom game, then that means money was exchanged but not directly from on to the other. Nintendo is still coming out of pocket to have the game on their platform exclusively. If they sent some of their employees to help capcom make a game on the 3DS, more is being exchanged for time spent at another studio. Again Nintendo is paying to have their employees work on a non first party game. No matter what money is always involved.
if true, then rip vita in japan...
Capcom's loss. After all, how much money would they stand to make from putting one on the Vita? And talk about being a system seller: even if it were available on both handhelds, I get the feeling it'd be about equally as popular on the Vita. ... a lot of companies in the industry right now truly are stupid.
With the way the Vita is selling, they might put themselves in a hole financially if it doesn't sell well. Who knows, it could do that or push a ton of units. It's a big question mark at this point.
If Persona 4, a 3 year old port of mildly popular franchise can sell 250k in japan on the vita, monster hunter can push 500k in its 1st month easy. In the long run it would probably be at around 1.2m by years end, which will likely be around 30% of the 3DS version sales.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Nobody listen's to the guy.. He said don't believe what you hear on the net but that's EXACTLY what this article and the other articles are doing. (And apperantly anyone else believing these rumors) true or false these are all rumors the game may still or may not come to the vita ... Ill believe when it's official.
It's an odd situation. "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" and "There's this guy on the internet saying this...." I dunno, I don't see why Capcom would even agree to a deal like that considering their MO for the past few years has been to hit as many platforms as possible.
Well. Goodbye MH, I'll be following God Eater, Soul Sacrifice, PSO2, and a few others. I don't like the 3DS's controls, and I am NOT buying an attachment for the second circle pad it should have had at launch.
Honestly Monster hunter would be better on the vita. I have Monster Hunter portable 3rd HD for the ps3 and that right analog stick camera control made the games 100 times better to play. The main issue with monster hunter on psp and ps2 was the camera controls were mapped to the d-pad making it awkward to control the camera while trying to keep your character moving. That made the game harder than it really should be especially when fighting multiple monsters at the same time. If the 3ds had a second analog stick then it would be fine but it doesnt. After playing monster hunter with good camera control its hard to good back to playing with out it.
Hey "The Claw" is awesome after you train it a bit. Though it aint possible on the 3DS thats why I REALLY dont like the controlls there....
Vita will get its own MH game eventually im sure.. Possibly a PS4 MH game w vita crossplay or functionality.. If not, soul sacrifice will be there for me.. & i also have a 3ds xl so if (mind u IF) mh 4 gets localized, ill be purchasing it.. If it ends up a great work of art of corse.. Oh & God Eater 2, Phantasy Star online 2, Dragons crown, & many others are coming so MH4 not going on it is not biggie to me.. Vita having Cross play, cross control, cross game chat, trophies, etc makes it a much greater experience to play games on it rather than 3ds IMO... I still love & respect Nintendos software quality, but i really dont care for their hardware & publisher support
Having Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest (two of the biggest franchises in Japan) exclusive to your platforms is some of the best kind of publisher support you can have. What more do you want? It bodes well for Square Enix and Capcom releases in the future. Another company seeming to throw more bias to them is Tecmo. I am against money hatting myself but I am trying to understand your complaint here.
well monster hunter 3 ultimate played and looked great on 3ds just using the touchscreen. but using the circle pad pro is the best cause it has two sticks and four shoulder buttons no other portable has that option and it works great in fact it feels like a console controller. so i know i'm going to love playing monster hunter 4 on 3ds. and i have no hate for vita.but people act like now it's going to be a bad game when it's going to be great!
lol the vita is doomed without this game nobody will even care about the system in a few years. "I don't understand to be honest, I mean I understand from a business point since the 3DS is outselling the PSV but with the PSV they could do more with the franchise" and what can they do with the franchise? they cant do anything that has been done already, and they can barley sell a million systems......u really think they would waste time/money making a game for a useless handheld?