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Submitted by mrbojingles 1115d ago | opinion piece

Do you even want the PS4 to have a controller like the Wii U Game Pad?

Gimme Gimme Games writes about why it would be a good thing if Sony's next console has a controller similar to the Wii U Game Pad, and adds why it could also be a bad thing. (Next-Gen, PS3, Sony, Wii U)

smashcrashbash  +   1115d ago
No.I don't like how clumsy the Wiipad looks at all.Just give me a normal sized controller in my hands please
iamnsuperman  +   1115d ago
I doubt they will go for it and it isn't because of what you said about he Wii U tablet. It would instantly get rid of a big future reason to buy a vita. The Vita has shown it can be used for cross play/controller play thing and remote play but they never have implemented it probably. Maybe they are waiting for the PS4 to do so but having a tablet controller would instantly get rid of this attraction.

I see the thing being a normal controller and if you want to play off screen and on the go the Vita will do it via Gaikai
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Shnazzyone  +   1115d ago
Also Sony needs to actually do some innovation here in gameplay. They can't keep knocking off nintendo, they need to start coming up with new ideas of their own.
iamnsuperman  +   1115d ago

"Also Sony needs to actually do some innovation here in gameplay. They can't keep knocking off nintendo, they need to start coming up with new ideas of their own."

Quite frankly it isn't who does it first but who does it best that really matters. I don't mind them taking other peoples ideas (that is actually how technology improves and gives the consumer a better experience) as long as it is better
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miyamoto  +   1115d ago is a sensationalist flamebait game site that wants to be the next Kotaku

just read the ridiculous comments posted by Nintendo fans made here....

Sony PlayStation has gone a very long way to differentiate itself to Nintendo since 1994
Old McGroin  +   1115d ago
It's not clumsy at all, it's actually very light and has nice grooves on the back so it settles nicely in your hands.

I used to think the pad was gimmicky until I actually picked one up and played a few games with it. I hope it's at the very least an optional type of pad for the next Playstation/Xbox.
Kingofwiiu  +   1115d ago
This^ , the wiiu pad is a bit unusual initialy bit it quickly becomes second nature , i can't even look at a dual shock or a 360 controller now as they are dramatically inferior.

Darksiders 2 you can play with a pro controller (which is the normal controller these gamepad haters clamour for) or off screen play and it's no where near as god as when you have the big map and on the fly inventory on the gamepad.

The wiiu is a natural evoloution of the standard controller. It's better in every way , not to mention you have the pro controller if you desire to use such an inferior device.

''Just give me a normal controller'' - good luck doing off screen play with one of those , and good luck doing it with a vita for that matter too , because it doesn't work on pretty much any games.
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Sanquine90  +   1115d ago
@kingofwii U : Please change your name. Why? It just can be objective. If i say it people can believe it. But your name screams that you are some fanboy.

@ On topic

Bulls*it, i have a wii U and as other people already said it fits nice in your hands. And when you play on it with the game zombie U. You really aprecciate the big screen with the radar on it. PS the inventory management is so much better on the wii U.
metroid32  +   1115d ago
Wiiu Gamepad is better than the normal one thats for sure mate,also wiiu has both ?
AO1JMM  +   1115d ago
The Wii U game-pad is not "clumsy".
Benjaminkno  +   1113d ago
Keyword "looks". You called it clumsy without playing it? that's funny.

You do realize that the Playstation controller hasn't changed since Super Nintendo right?
throw in 2 sticks and 2 shoulder buttons.

At least separate the controller. Throw in a motion sensor... maybe you could have a Wiimote?...

I'm quite certain this is actually what the controller is going to be.
Gr81  +   1115d ago
Here's What Will
Happen. The folks who don't like the Gamepad now and are talking about the Wii U sucking will pull a 180 and say that Sony is doing game pad gaming right.

Then they will show a shoddy video of some random dude from 2009 or 10 farting around with Sony's Prototype gamepad and start claiming that Sony did it first and are innovators for pushing the industry forward.

It will be like deja vu for the Move's release.
smashcrashbash  +   1115d ago
No.I really would prefer a normal controller thanks. Not every one is as two faced as you claim.Many people preferred a normal PS3 controller over the Move as well just the same way many people preferred a normal control scheme over the Wiimote .Besides everyone in the gaming universe talked about how much they thought the PS3 sucked.Not sure why everyone gets so anal about anyone saying anything bad about the Wii U.I am sure the same people who cry all day about the Wii U will be first in line to put down the PS4.
Angrymorgan  +   1115d ago
I would prefer to have a smaller screen (iPhone size) just for menus/inventory..
But I don't see it happening because they'll probably use vita in some way.
Irishguy95  +   1115d ago
They will see if it sells for Nintendo first, then they will copy it.
wishingW3L  +   1115d ago
I hope the rumor is just that, a rumor. Having a screen on the controller is as pointless as the second screen on the DS. They are just pointless and gimmicky.
Neonridr  +   1115d ago
150 million people disagree with your comment about the DS having a second screen being pointless.

Do me a favour and look up the word gimmick in the dictionary, and tell me what it means. I'll give you a hint, the word gimmick does not mean anything negative. So stop using it in that context.
FanMan  +   1115d ago
mcdonalds also sells billions of big macs. doesnt mean its quality food.just cheap and fast.
Benjaminkno  +   1113d ago
Ah, they're fanboys! They worship their consoles like bigots listen to talk radio. Any bad news for Nintendo is music to their ears. They are determined to scoff at the gamepad, that they would sabatoge their own appreciation for games. Not because it's "gimmicky" or "clunky", but because they worry about their own personal brand. They probably should be worried, the industry is changing. Maybe they're just tired of Nintendo being invulnerable. We've seen casualties in this business before, and they're adamant to throw Nintendo to the lions even though their competitors have contributed next to nothing to this industry.
GribbleGrunger  +   1115d ago
If the PS4 has a controller exactly the same as the Wiiu then I won't be buying it. A little LCD display in the centre and a slightly wider controller I can accept, but NOT the controller of the Wiiu.
metroid32  +   1115d ago
So u want a pointless screen that does zero off tv play and special co-op modes u can only achieve on a big screen ?? and panaramic viewpoint on games like zelda like the garden tech demo wow the gamepad is the pad of the future in my eyes and many developers.
Salamander  +   1115d ago
Dont lie hahaa
LOL_WUT  +   1115d ago
If it's going to be used in a gimmicky way to lure in the casuals then no. If Sony makes it a priority or requirement to implement it in EVERY game and make good use of it, then I wouldn't see a problem. One last thing Sony has to make it a whole lot better than what the Wii U currently has because Nintendo dropped the ball big time. ;)
PopRocks359  +   1115d ago
So it's gimmicky and clunky the way Nintendo implemented it but you'd have no problems if Sony fully implemented it in the PS4?

I love double standards.
Phil32  +   1115d ago
Don't mind the troll. They just make the industry look more and more juvenile with each passing day.
doogiebear  +   1114d ago
Yeah but Lol_Wut wasn't the one calling it a gimmick, so how does your statement apply to his?
PirateThom  +   1115d ago
No. I want a normal controller with no nonsense add ons like a screen or touch panal.
Spookshow  +   1115d ago
Then better stick to the past gen consoles (PS3/XBox360) my friend.
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torchic  +   1115d ago
the only thing I want on the DualShock 4 is the Vita trackpad at the back of the controller.
profgerbik  +   1115d ago
Probably would kill your Vita's battery in one game because that is why Dualshock is not in the Vita, it would also take away power from the processor and other components just to have it vibrate.

I'll pass, I always prefer functionality over things that just don't currently work together.

Maybe the Next Vita will have that but I doubt it. I mean hell gaming laptops don't even vibrate for good reason. It's just a waste, a little different though when it's just a controller and not an actual gaming device that is entirely vibrating.
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dani25pr  +   1115d ago
If Sony does not really own ideas copied from smash bros wii mote of time and gamepad or god
arbitor365  +   1115d ago
I see the nintendo police squad is busy thumbing down people's comments, but I dont care. the idea of having such a controller is mind numbingly stupid. and there is no reason to implement it in the PS4

it would drive up costs of production and leech off the processing power, both of which would hinder its graphical capabilities.

it doesnt add any sort of immersion or gameplay enhancement. none of us want to constantly look down at the controller, or play an entire game on it. both options are equally stupid.

such a controller would be bulky and inferior, gameplay wise, for just about every genre of games, especially shooters and fighting games.

there is no way sony or microsoft are going to do this. by the time December rolls around, the wii u will be utterly stagnant, and there is no reason why sony has to emulate their gimmick.
Salamander  +   1115d ago
I disagree wholeheartedly.
profgerbik  +   1115d ago
People forgot the Vita already? There is a chance we could see much more done with the Vita with the PS4.

Why would Sony even need to add a gamepad controller when they have the PS Vita that already has some functionality with the PS3, the Vita could do all that. Very possibly they have things planned for it with the PS4.

Not saying who's will be better just saying the Vita has been here and I always had a feeling that it would be used more with the PS4 than the PS3 because of it's release time. Makes sense to me I guess.

Either way we know Sony will probably make a newer Vita sometime later on during the PS4's lifetime and I am sure that one will work with it anyway.

I would be surprised to see them copy something they invented and developed first, sure it may not be the same as the Wii U's gamepad but if you ask me it's better because it is a separate gaming machine that can still have functions just like the gamepad on the Wii U without having to be tied to the system. They just have no reason to add a gamepad to the PS4 in the sense that the Wii U's has.

Imagine having Gaikai on the Vita also, scaling down PS4 games and all PS3 games just playing them over Wi-Fi, maybe the PS4 will have something neat to do with Gaiaki, it would be awesome if it could stream your games without an internet connection to the Vita. Would give more incentive to buy a PS4 and a PS Vita.

It's also no doubt Nintendo's next handheld will also work with their consoles more than they have, they already have talked about how they want them to. Hard to imagine them not making a new handheld either, everyone copies each other so it's really no big deal and I could careless who does what first.

Humans can only build on each others ideas, no one is truly original because that is not how our brains work unfortunately.
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TheBardsSong  +   1115d ago
The reason: no developers will support it if it requires you own both the console and a Vita. With the Wii U the controller is included with all consoles. Same reason the PS Move didn't get very much support, or like any of the non-bundled Wii peripherals.
rainslacker  +   1115d ago
Because the Vita is an optional purchase, thus making it an accessory in this case. If a Vita (or Vita-esque controller) isn't included with every PS4, then it will be one of those things that will get limited support, much like every add-on ever released on consoles ever.
doogiebear  +   1114d ago
The vita is a $200 device. But there was a rumor from CES that ps4 will use a controller that is similar to the vita, except cheaper since it's not a only has a screen display but cannot play its own games apart from the ps4 (and a back panel and touch screen). Those with Vita can use it as a similar controller too.
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RTheRebel  +   1115d ago
yes do it
I just want too see sony drones reaction ahahaha
profgerbik  +   1115d ago
So which drone do you classify yourself as? Wasn't aware one drone was better than the next.
RTheRebel  +   1115d ago
unlike you not bias against any system I own systems
all you praise are sony products now back to the church of kratos young man
wiiulee  +   1115d ago
its not a question , its a fact that they will have a controlller like the wiiu because only nintendo comes up with ideas for innovation and things that havent been done before in console i expect both sony and microsoft to copy nintendo...wether its the controller or miiverse and of course with tvii also....and haters will rejoice
smashcrashbash  +   1115d ago
You know what i love about articles like this.How it shows what @$$holes Nintendo supporters are despite them always complaining how we are always picking on and putting down Nintendo.Because people say they would prefer a normal controller they dance around with the same $hit about who is more innovative and who copies whom.But yet are always first in line to weep about how Sony people are always hurting their precious feelings."People are always hating on the Wii U and it isn't fair *sniff*. And when Nintendo jumped to latch on a second joystick and blatantly copied Sony's AR cards for the 3DS that wasn't even a blip on the radar. No one admitted that Nintendo takes good ideas too.After all they basically jumped to start a store, attach an internet browser, have apps,make a place for people to interact socially and make their system a media hub all ideas that Sony and many other came up with long before Nintendo did.

Several of their games have even taken things from games that existed before them like four player arena fighting from games like Powerstone and spherical worlds from Ratchet and Clank.Sony even streamlined Nintendo's clunky designs like the memory card and the rumble. But we always have to listen to immature $hits always talking about who is going to copy who and when they don't follow anyone they talk about how bad the idea is compared to Nintendo. Or we have to listen to how the king of gimmicks,Nintendo is so innovative and yet when they make this stuff they barely know what to do with it. And even if they figure something out they run out of ideas how to use it for anything practical very quickly.Look at Rayman.The pad is being used to draw things for the other players? Who wants to watch everyone else play while drawing on the pad to help all the people playing with characters? And everything one on the pad could easily be done on the television.It really makes no difference because you still have to turn away from the television anyway to do things which is no different from pausing the game on the big screen and looking through a menu.How is it different? If I was playing RE4 what is different from me pausing and accessing the menu on the screen or on the pad? Either way I still have to pause the game.Same thing with Batman.I still have to stop and choose my weapons or devices.The only difference now is i have to look down now at the pad.

If they were so innovative they would be able to always think of ways to use their devices in practical ways and not just make up crap to justify it's use like Microsoft ended up doing with Kinect. Stop with the idiotic copy garbage.If someone didn't follow someone else no one would be able to improve on or inspire someone else to do anything.If the people who wanted to follow after the first car never made to attempt to crave his own niche or make improvements because he was always afraid that everyone thought he was copying we would be riding Model Ts right now because every other car afterwards would be considered 'copying'. Grow up.If Nintendo saw good ideas, which they have, they would follow them too.If they didn't then you would never have had Super Smash Brothers.And let's not forget Nintendo's biggest blunder sticking to cartridges instead of opting for using a better format which basically cost them two gens of dominance.But I suspect the Nintendo fanboys probably thought that was innovative too.
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TheBardsSong  +   1115d ago
Where did Sony have AR cards before the 3DS?
Salamander  +   1115d ago
Thats a very long comment, I couldnt read it all.
1upgamer99  +   1115d ago
I really like the gamepad, I traded my BOPS2 for PS3 after renting it for my Wii U. The multi-player gameplay just is hands down better on Wii U. So would I like PS4 to have a gamepad, yes and no. I don't want to pay $600 dollars for a new console, BUT I do really like the gamepad so yes.
TwistedMetal  +   1115d ago
Black ops 2 on the wii u has like 1000 thousand players maximum while the ps3/x360 versions have 500,000 plus each. Also the people who are playing cod BL2 on the wii you are probably 6 years old with no skills to even play such a crap version of the game with so little amount of people online. Its like a complete waste of 60 bucks to play the same 100 pokemon, skylanders giants players in each and every online macth.
TheBardsSong  +   1115d ago
Yes. Been loving the gamepad play feature. I can play ME3 in the bathroom if I wanted.
A LIVING LEGEND  +   1115d ago
nobody told me there would be days like these :)
tachy0n  +   1115d ago
i rather have the PSVita as controller...
CaptainN  +   1115d ago
If Nintendo makes it ..Sony copies its very possible!
H4all  +   1115d ago
CaptainN  +   1114d ago
realistic :/
goldwyncq  +   1115d ago
No, but it'll be nice if they add the rear touchpad from the vita.
HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   1115d ago
I don't mean to sound like I'm trolling but for once I would like to see Sony stop taking ideas from Nintendo just look at the ps move is suppose to be better than the wiimote but instead is more frustrating it takes away all the fun, for the Ps4 I would like to see Sony to innovate in they own way.
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landog  +   1115d ago
they could always either;

A. incorporate the vita into an optional method of control for the ps4

B. build a tablet add on, that would have functionality in certain games, totally optional

(notice, in both instances, optional is the key)

For me, and I believe a large majority of the gaming community, we want our ps4 controller to be very similar to our ps3 controller (maybe with slightly better triggers, and ever more responsive analog sticks (though i love my ps3 controller just fine and would be totally ok with the ps4 controller being exactly the same !)
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Triggytrolls  +   1114d ago
I like the Wii U pad for single player games, but not for multiplayer games.
Thepcz  +   1114d ago
the obsolete controller
the handheld gaming market is a con, one which the console manufacturers are exploiting. they get you to buy their home console and stay anchored to the tv, and the handheld one so you can play on the go. then they give each systems its own set of exclusive software titles, meaning you have to buy both.

at least the way nintendo 'does it,' shows the intention of merging the two together. the recent merger of both console and handheld departments at nintendo prove this. so i think wiiu is the bridge between handheld gaming and console gaming.

sony have a perfect opportunity now to be a step ahead of nintendo, and offer a device that is truly both a console and a handheld. they have not had great success with the vita, so why not simply ditch the vita, and use it instead as a wiiu style controller that docks with the ps4 console. or, create an even more powerful vita (ps4) and give it hdmi output so you can connect to the tv.

either way, nintendo are onto something, they have been very smart and shown they are evolving with the times- the tablet is taking a massive share of the market which the handhelds and consoles once held. people dont want vita or 3ds, they want ipad. nintendo were smart to incorporate elements of the tablet into the wiiu's design.

if sony have any sense, they will do the same.

its true, the game pad as we know it is dead. we dont interface with buttons anymore, we interface with touch screens, gestures, visuals. buttons are as old as the old telephones with the rotary dial on them- obsolete.
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USMC_POLICE  +   1114d ago
Hell no
Benjaminkno  +   1113d ago
Currently designed controllers are outdated. Whatever controller you've got is going to be similar to a controller derived from a Nintendo console anyway, just own up to it.
Hardware developers are too worried about creating anything "new" as there is too much risk involved.

That's why you have the "kinect" and "move" stumbling out of the gate. You can't have hardware developers innovating something brand new without some software experience to sell to developers. I'm utterly convinced that the gaming industry has no real clue where it's going from here. Seems like Sony and Microsoft are trying to find out what the other is doing. Graphics are becoming irrelevant, and future demand is uncertain.

Meanwhile Apple is planning their monopoly...

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