Submitted by armycore 803d ago | news

DayZ creator is angry at War Z

Original-Gamer.com: "Dean "Rocket" Hall did a AMA(Ask Me Anything) on Reddit to discuss the upcoming DayZ standalone. Along with answering questions about some of the new gameplay changes that will be included with the game, one person discussed his past comments on War Z. Hall did not pull any punches on why he's angry at the game." (DayZ, PC, The War Z)

Muffins1223  +   803d ago
this person has no right to insult a developer after what he has done...
konnerbllb  +   803d ago
and that is?
SilentNegotiator  +   803d ago
Perhaps there's a chance that Muffin's comment was intentional brilliance, showing exactly what the problem is. lol
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Kevin ButIer  +   802d ago
not sure if brilliant...

or just trolling
-MD-  +   803d ago
You must be confused.
Riderz1337  +   803d ago
What has he done? Give out a free mod to players so that they can enjoy it? Really bro?
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MeatAbstract  +   803d ago
I'll never forgive him for creating a great free mod that is enjoyed by millions of people. That selfish SOB. What RIGHT does he have to criticize unethical developers that made a rush job of a game and lied to their consumers about things in the game. What right does he have!?
jimbobwahey  +   803d ago
Muffins1223, I think you might be confusing this guy with the guy behind War Z.
Red_Orange_Juice  +   803d ago
and thats why DayZ devs should be angry!
Tr10wn  +   803d ago
DayZ Dean "Rocket" Hall the one who started it all.

WarZ Sergey "Greedy" Titov the one who try to scam all.

"I am angry about the WarZ. I'm very angry. I'm quite hurt personally because anyone can see how similar the words are, and while the average gamer knows the difference individual people don't.

Dean Hall, DayZ Creator"
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gamernova  +   803d ago
Muffins got it mixed up guys. Don't hang him now.
aliengmr  +   803d ago
Define irony.
cooksauce  +   803d ago
he's done great things for the community, unlike warz
animegamingnerd  +   803d ago
a war z fanboy kill it like the rest
Nicaragua  +   803d ago
The fact that this guy has DayZ and WarZ mixed up perfectly emphasises the point the DayZ developer makes in this article.
JasonXS12  +   803d ago
Exactly what the article talks about. The similar game name confuses the standard gamer making them think DayZ is the same crap WarZ was when it isn't at all.
PurpHerbison  +   802d ago
Trolls trolling trolls. I thought it would never get boring...
BanBrother  +   803d ago
Agree with the guy. How is it that games journalists play an early build of a game, and hype it up to the world, saying how great it is, then come review time they say it sucks? No credibility.

Games journalists should be charged with false advertising tbh. Or just lose their job.
DragonKnight  +   803d ago
Gaming journalism is in terrible shape, it's worse than people actually see and realise. These "journalists" no longer represent gamers, they have no real voice of their own, and what they say is bland and devoid of any passion for the medium anymore. It's no surprise that most of them flip flop worse than the shoe.
Truthandreason  +   803d ago
Gaming journalism is almost as bad as the N4G comment section. But at least they get paid to be delusional hype machines.
armycore  +   803d ago
As a guy who has done previews and reviews where the games are different, here's what happens sometimes. First off, you can't be overly harsh on a preview. The build that is shown may be months old and a lot of the problems you have could be already addressed. Also, the game could have several months of polish so you end up looking like a dick saying "THIS GAME IS HORRIBLE" when it's still an early build.

Secondly, sometimes what's available to play is really really good but the rest is horrible. The Duke Nukem Forever demo that was available at several events before the game's release was awesome. It had the humor, it had action, it had everything. Problem is that the rest of teh game sucked ass.

Thirdly, the final product may have other factors that screw with the game. When MvC 3 was first show off, it was very cool to check out. Problem is that when the game was released, it was barebones and had horrible online play. That killed it for many people.

Fourthly, some writers get caught up in the hype. Activision, in particular, is notorious for having preview events for CoD where it's all about drinking and gaming. Frankly, a good journalist should be able to get what's needed before partying, but then again, I've seen what some journalists do at the big sites and yeah, they're fucktards.

And finally, the game may just end up going to shit. That's just how developing games works.
BanBrother  +   803d ago
Your opinion is appreciated, and I fully agree. I understand that there are a few cases where it fits, but I can't recall the last time I read a bad preview, but I remember reading a crap-tonne of bad reviews. A lot of it is prior arrangements/obligations to a company, as it has been proved that advertising $$$ do play at least some part in this thing some people call 'games journalism'.

I do feel sorry for those more professional ones that you mentioned in your post. I understand that develolers/publishers like to trick people by having a pre-set demo that is not necessarily going to make the game.

Bubbles for being very level-headed and intelligent.
Baka-akaB  +   803d ago
nvm double post
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Baka-akaB  +   803d ago
And i find that attitude appalling , wich is why i can't trust so called "gaming journalists" .

Not only games making a 180° and going from bad preview builds to great games arent common ...

But also , they are supposed to be more than adboards for games , at least in theory .

Not taking a readership for complete idiots and telling them the truth , while mentioning some potential in the problematic games , if there is any , should be enough
TheLeapist  +   803d ago
See why couldn't they just say this in the preview then? Instead of saying this game is definitely going to be incredible, they could say something like 'the small bit that I experienced was enjoyable albeit riddled with bugs and definite issues.' Would that be so hard?
Flavor  +   803d ago
Game journalism does not exist.

All we have are paid PR schills for game companies, or human garbage trolling for hits on their awful website with empty articles.

I am sure there are legit journos out there, just don't see any. Just see paid placement and soft sells of trash product that has less and less depth and gameplay every year, to the point where low budget PC titles from fifteen years ago look good.
Bimkoblerutso  +   803d ago
It would be monetarily impossible for game companies to "pay off" that many sites. Sure, you always have to be wary of the bigger ones because they almost all seem to operate on the "courtesy" system, but with the smaller ones, most of the time a review is just a review. You're going to disagree with a ton of them. That's just how opinions work.

So if reading the opinions of others is not your cup of tea, you might just want to stick to videos and screenshots to form your own opinions.
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MeatAbstract  +   803d ago
I remember on the Day Z forums people talking about WarZ and when people would insult it or call it a rip off, people would jump in to defend it and say it had been in development since before DayZ was.

After seeing WarZ, I don't know. Perhaps something was in development but DayZ came along and someone went "Wow, that's really popular...and free...lets turn our game into that and charge people for it and have micro transactions as well!"

I don't know, that's juts how it feels to me. It looks rushed. It feels like its slapped together to make a quick buck. The finally the name familiarity. No way is that a coincidence. So it wouldn't surprise me if these guys did this to basically make money off the success of a free and much better game and it has blew up in their faces.

But yeah, like it matters now. If people care about this industry, you should stay away from War Z and let the developers realize they can't use their customers this way.
Riderz1337  +   803d ago
Dude there is no way in hell they spend a long time developing the WarZ. Go play War Inc it's a free to play shooter that's made by the same developer who made WarZ. It's literally identical to the WarZ. All they really added to WarZ was zombies and a new map. The character animations, reloads, gun looks...everything is the same as War Inc, a free to play shooter.
ApolloTheBoss  +   803d ago
He has absolutely every right to be angry.
ATi_Elite  +   803d ago
Dean Rocket Hall has every right to be ANGRY
1. WarZ rips off the DayZ title
2. Warz rips off the gameplay
3. warz is a an absolute stinking pile of Cow Dung
4. warz rips off gamers of their money by randomly banning accounts for no reason
5. warz is an insult to PC Gamers
6. warz has been given a letter stating that their name patent has been REJECTED cause the game sounds too much like the movie World War Z
7. warz used the League of Legends Eula to the point that it still said "League of Legends" in the Warz Eula..straight copy n paste
8. warz is a hackers wet dream as the devs are not addressing problems
9. warz LIED about how long warz has been in development and got caught Lying about it
10. Dean Hall made a great free mod and a AAA quality game and warz juts copied n pasted everything they saw in DayZ just to cash in but PC Gamers are not going for it anymore as DayZ standalone is one of the most anticipated PC titles in 2013.
aliengmr  +   803d ago
Hall's comment is spot-on. I won't add to its brilliance.
profgerbik  +   803d ago
That is weird I thought there was a law where you still could not name something so close to another copyrighted name.

For instance instead of Gamestop, I make a store called Gamego. Not sure if that would fly in places where there are Gamestops..

Maybe it depends on the copyright I suppose.
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