Over the last year, AMD executives have been abandoning ship for rival Nvidia, and according to a new lawsuit, they took confidential information about the Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4 with them. Engadget reports that AMD has filed suit against four ex-employees, claiming that the executives absconded with thousands of confidential documents, including sensitive information about technologies at use in next-gen consoles. As our well-placed sources told us last year, custom silicon based on AMD's A8-series APU and HD 7670 GPU will be used in the PlayStation 4, while the Xbox 720 will combine an IBM PowerPC CPU and a custom version of AMD's 6670 GPU.
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If the rumors are true and it's looking like they are then the PS4 will have a higher clocked CPU, beefier GPU and faster ram than the next Xbox. Yikes! I hate to say but it looks like those whispers of MS abandoning the core and focusing mainly on the casual market may have been true. D: If I'm wrong on this then please feel free to correct me on this.
which might explain comments like these that have been trickling in from devs lately.
Xbox 720 tech won't be as "obvious" a leap
http://n4g.com/news/1155981...
damn, are you stupid or what ? XD
you can see that PS4 won't use Cell and will be like a PC. so there will be no problem with making games for PS4. LOL
You're basing this all on the hopes that Sony will go with proprietary set up? Sorry my friend but they've decided on AMD hardware for that very reason of making it easier on the devs. Aww so much for that little theory of yours. *sadface*
So does this make these gpus equally capable in this rumored situation?
Not very techy here, i'm just a gamer.
That's the benefit of designing more specialized hardware as opposed to a general purpose system like PCs.
8-core AMD Jaguar 1.6GHz
8GB DDR3 + 32/64MB eDRAM (Though ESRAM seems to be floating around a lot lately)
1.2 TFLOP GPU
If that's "abandoning the core", then I'm shocked. Seems like a pretty beefy console to me.
That + another GPU could range drastically from 1 Tflop up to 3-4 Tflops. Say they go for max. AMD Trinity(768 Gigaflops) + AMD 8850(2.99 Tflops) = 3.758 Tflops
Then again it could work out for Xbox 720 with AMD Trinity + Mid power GPU + PowerPC CPU from IBM for Xbox 720. Say Power7+ at 32nm + AMD Trinity + GPU.
That's pretty big speculation and would lead one to think Sony might have a setup like that as well since they filled a patent for Dynamic context switching they could have an upgraded Cell or Power7 setup to emulate a Power series/Cell 2 like CPU + AMD Trinity/Kaveri + GPU.
Then again all of that seems like a little bit of a stretch. Could be a new trend with co-processing and big/little processing plans. Possibly with HSA making it all work in unison. If true.
I have to agree with your comment on both systems. For some reason I have a feeling MS and Sony will provide some sort of similar structure.
I made a comment a while ago that Sony could somehow apply the setup you suggested. That APU chip will be interesting once we find out what is housed in there.
There are too many rumors floating around, and I have to say I'm more willing to believe IGN's, now that there are lawsuits going on between AMD and former AMD employees who now work for NVIDIA (their enemy).
However, it has been stated numerous times that there have been multiple SKU's and these could have been some of the older SKU's, and things could have gotten better.
If not it's PC for me, until I see a library of games for the consoles.
Here you go. Read some links and educate yourselves.
http://videocardz.com/ati/r...
That's the "better" card in the PS4 - supposedly. Look at the 3D Mark and Vantage scores. Those are tests that indicate the rough graphical capabilities of the cards. Just to give you an idea, my Sager laptop (680m) has a 3D Mark score of 7000. On a LAPTOP, with an OS hogging resources. The 7670 gets up to 2000 max. Higher is better.
A 7670 is not a good video card. That is a fact. It is mid to low tier. They are budget cards and you often see the mobile versions crammed into $399 laptops. They only saving grace would be if Sony double GPU'd it, because the functionality is better in that case - but still not up to anything remarkable.
The question is, will it be cross-fired or X-fire set-up for it.
An APU (which has super weak CPU processing that can't even compete with the Xbox's CPU) paired with an HD 7670m... That's waaaayyy too weak!
Another day, another leak.
Do people still believe these stupid leaks ?
it is only REAL to the mind that believe in the delusion of a illusion.
so what? the question is whether it's better than what current gen consoles have. if the answer is "yes", then who cares...
and stop comparing what goes into a console with what goes into a high-end PC because they're not the same thing, nor will they ever be the same thing.
Next up i want to see a baby Elephant included or no deal.
In all seriousness though everyone wants to be a source and these websites really do not check the validity of the sources before reporting on them
My desktop has the 5870 in it which is even more powerful than the mobile version.. probably walk all over these consoles.
On my laptop i can play Black Mesa full settings 1080P and the most it drops to is around 40FPS and is usually a nice 60+. Very good for a laptop, but i doubt consoles will handle that and 60+FPS constant.
I think next gen engines will be made to be more flexible. And I am not convinced Wii U would suffer much even if the consoles significantly outclass it. It will rule the Japanese market so developers there would naturally go there by default and its been proven all too often that power actually proves to slow down your console sales due to being more expensive.
if it was about power PS1 would not have outsold N64. PS2 would not have outsold Xbox and Gamecube. PS3 would not have fallen so far behind like it did at the start of this gen. PSP would have outsold DS. And Vita wouldn't be struggling as much as it is at the moment. So is there any real sense making the kind of leap we had before? Especially when you are bundling Kinect 2.0 in.
It would mean more expensive games (the kinds of prices we paid for N64 games £70), more re-releasing and DLC nickle and diming and more developers closing down so it just isn't worth going through with to please a small group of graphics lovers.
It's a win-win for devs and gamers alike.
Ps1 and Ps2 ruled not bc of their power but bc of their games.
Yes graphics are nice but not at the expense of great gameplay and variety.
Last gen, we got 3 devil may crys, 3 onimushas, 2 mgs games, 2 final fantasies, 2 gran turismos, 3 gtas, etc.
This gen? 1 mediocre FF, 1 GTA (until part 5), 1 MGS, 1 Devil may cry, 1 Gran Turismo, NO onimushas.
See how wrong that looks?
We didn't have this problem before the hd era.
So yes, i'll gladly take a slightly weaker, affordable ps4 if it means getting the amount of games we got with ps1 and ps2.
IMO, graphics whores choose pc, but gamers choose consoles.
im a gamer and i simply want the best games period.
Now bring on next gen and bring on the games!!
If you look across the pond, we got Call of Duty every year! :D
All joke aside, the industry has very much shifted to western games and this trend is continuing.
What bs . I guess you miss the constant graphics comparisons articles where console fanboys argue about minimal graphic differences. Not to mention the everytime a gow, tlou, or beyond article come up most of the comments are people gloating how beautiful the game looks.
Diablo, wow, Starcraft, ect ect ect sold millions of copies and I wouldn't say games like those would be a graphic whores wet dream.
I was a console only owner up until a year or so ago, and I thought just like most of the console only chumps on this site. I WAS WRONG! Pc gaming has opened my gaming tastes much wider. Apparently I'm not a gamer anymore though lol.
If this rumor is right, then next gen will be weak, and all the People shit talking the wii u will have to eat some crow. Looks like no 4k @ 60 fps with 3d after all, if this is true.
The othe day with a 6670 2gb card, 8 gb of ram and AMD fx 4100 4 ghz processor for 399 pounds so if these specs are correct you can expect the 720 to be about the same price.
http://www.enstarz.com/arti...
You can't say that, my advise is wait and see because all of this could just be bogus .
I am confident both companies are going to release machine that will make any owner/fan proud.