With the violence and gun-control debate heating up in the US, games are increasingly being singled out as reasons for aggression and killings. FPS games like Call of Duty have been repeatedly used as examples of how games are turning children into walking killing machines. They were also originally created by the Pentagon… according to Alex Jones. Seb and Dan from Daily Reaction discuss the problems with shady sources, misleading facts, energetic presenters, the evil British and how all this confusion is just clouding a very legitimate problem.
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I keep clicking "agree", but it only lets me agree once :( The media should take much of the blame... FOX took tabloid BS and brought it into the newsroom, and retarded people gobbled it up. Once everyone else saw FOX's ratings going through the roof, they followed suit. Walter Cronkite is probably rolling around in his own vomit in his grave.
how do you think you become crazy in the head?
what you eat takes you to that, is not that simple..
violent games, moves etc do pro create more violence and attract it, you tell me you have never got mad out of nowhere playing a video game? screen at someone near you because the talk while you are playing or just get mad for been killed like if it means something?
this entertainment are made, produce by the Iluminaty and is easy to tell they use clear logos.
and they serve few thing, waste your time and keep you busy, use your energy to attract what they inception in in you and etc etc.. i could explain more but you choosing to be naive and just a sheep and if you want to be aware you are welcome to.
start by this page www todoslibres dot com and you can use google to translate if is needed
It's not the games he's blaming ... it's the CULTURE we've created as a people...theres a difference.
We're obsessed with death as a culture, you dont even notice it becaus it's so normal to you. Death is everywhere on TV, in your videogames, in the movies, even on the news...death is everywhere, and that alone desensitizes children, death becomes more normal.
Used to be people would see a dead body and they'd be emotionally disturbed and it'd be a traumatic experience. Now people walk by dead bodies in the subway and dont even call the police or 911...or how about when people die on camera in hospital waiting rooms and even hospital staff just walks by ...
Death is awesome.
But you cant blame videogames, it's parents that need to be blamed for not raising their children to appreciate the value of a human life.
Does a 14 year old playing an M rated (17+) game cause violence? Possibly.
It's as if he said :
"Do apples cause violence? No.
Can a 14 year old eating an apple cause violence? Possibly."
Basically, he meant that games don't cause violence but retarded people will think they do because they saw a violent person who happened to play video games.
Every person as the potential for violence, even those who had slaughtered each other for centuries before games existed.
Remember, correlation does not prove anything.
When there was slavery..........there were no video games.
When people were burned at the stake for being fake witches ............. there were no video games
When the Catholic Church murdered thousands of Christians just because they had bibles........ there were no video games
WWI............. no video games
WW2............. no video games
When Kennedy was shot......... there were no video games
When King was shot............ there were no video games
Do I need to add more?
It it completely fair to notice that some events are caused by individuals who have played video games. Notice I only have mentioned that they only played the games, just like I would say they watched movies or listened to music. Yes, I completely agree it is wrong to blame those same games for the any type of tragedy, but what your argument appears to do is just as bad as accusing games.
Completely ignoring the presence of games in a situation is just as bad as blaming them. We need to have intelligent and quantified debate on the subject, not alienate ourselves to one side of the fence.
The propensity towards violence is no more affected by video games than it is books, movies or television. It's akin to saying that the colour red drives bulls insane. Bulls are colour blind to the colours of red and green. If a person wants to commit violence, they will. Games literally have nothing to do with it. That isn't an opinion, that's a logical, common sense based fact. There is no definitive correlation between real world violence and games and having only those two factors present.
The fact is that there was violence before and there was violence after video games. The introduction of video games did not have an effect on the violence, except for the fact that the violence rates have been dropping in the last few years (which isn't the video games' fault either, imo).
Also, your comment mentions having "only those two factors present." When did I say those were my only two factors? There are only two things being addressed here:
1. Games didn't exist in the past; stuff happened. It's easy to see there is no connection at all.
2. Games do exist in the present; stuff happens. If games are present where the stuff happens, then let's at least sensibly talk about it. We - the gaming community - should be having these discussions, like the group of gaming executives did last week in DC. We are an entertainment medium, and discussing the presence of games (whether they affect a situation or not) is our responsibility.
One last thought - regarding the statement that "that isn't an opinion, that's a logical, common sense based fact," I cannot say I completely agree. Games are not responsible, but spending an inordinate amount of time playing a particular game or title (see the last paragraph of this article - http://www.psychologytoday.... can help us identify what's missing or wrong in person's life by examining their gaming habits.
That's a very real connection between video games and a person's life, and one that deserves to be examined more. And sorry for the long post - this is a topic I love discussing. PM me if you want to keep the discussion going. Cheers.
History is completely logical. Video games are part of a very non-violent era compared to history. If video games cause violence then logically speaking the number of violent people must correlate in some way to the number of games and people playing them. It doesn't. End of debate on whether violent video games cause violence.
If we are just going to make up pointless arguments, then I say violent video games cause less violence. My evidence: History.
I didn't say they were YOUR two factors, I said they would be the only two factors that could legitimately claim video games influences violence.
The presence of games is a non-factor. It's a scapegoat. It's like when John Hinkley Jr. tried to assassinate Reagan to impress Jodie Foster. He became obsessed with the movie Taxi Driver and Jodie Foster, but THEIR PRESENCE didn't MAKE him do anything. They didn't contribute to his assassination attempt, he was just insane.
And spending an inordinate amount of time with a game is not an indicator of something from the game being missing in the person's life. If that were the case, South Korea would be an absolute mess and I, who have been playing nothing but Dragon's Dogma for 2 weeks now, would then apparently have a life that's missing the satisfaction of eviscerating Hobgoblins.
I mean seriously, games have literally nothing to do with violence. In point of fact they can be a way to release the stresses and anxieties of daily life which are greater factor for violence.
So are assault rifles and Abrams tanks. You can't use 'history' as a direct comparison, because the cultural norms, technology and standard of living of our societies have changed so much.
"If video games cause violence then logically speaking the number of violent people must correlate in some way to the number of games and people playing them."
I agree with most of this, while in general I agree that video games don't increase violent tendencies, it's irresponsible to say they never do. For mentally unsound people a video game CAN be the thing that puts them over the edge, it could also be a film, a book, an angry editorial, or any number of things.
I don't accept that video games cause more violence than any other form of media, but if we're going to have that debate we can't be completely dismissive of the exceptions that arise.
MILLIONS of people play games, thats a lot of people that can randomly go stupid.
How many of the idiots shooting others read a magazine? Watched the news? Read a book? watched a movie? Yet the media never makes a connection to any of these things? Its ALWAYS just video games. "bla bla played GTA!" yeah? And he also watched Fox News, got inspired by all the famous murderers, and decided to go down in history. Good job Fox.
listen to what jesse ventura says instead.
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There is room for intelligent discussion on the topic, but not with these two douchebags.
I watched some interviews with Ventura and most of what he says are true. If you don't believe that then your a sheep living in wonderland...
Heck even civilians posing as (fake)veterans can get interview too you know...
I am American If obama infringe on the 2nd amendment im afraid that he may start a new revolutionary war. Thousand or even millions may die.
Yeah...that certainly helps convince me that you are a reasonable individual who would never use a gun irresponsibly.
Im a real american patroit. I do believe if you come to some one private property to take their gun, some people may resist in a violent behavior!
Do you have any clue about how many countries that have a government who don't allow firearms who haven't had civil war?
If anyone would start a war it wouldn't be Obama but more likely the nutty NRA people.
Obama is a puppet of organizations and bankers and yeah your government is controlling you, US-UK government are the most criminal governments on earth....
AND AMERICA SURVIVED!!!!
Go figure. Tell us why people really want to "start a revolution" against Obama?
LOL
Also, guns may not kill people. But people with guns kill much faster than people without guns.
Correlation is not cause.
The rest of the "rich" world has violent crimes too, but far less killing.
Countries with a higher murder rate than the US are not known for their insane video game addiction.
So you can twist it any way you want, but it seems to me that the murder rate in the us may have more to do with having hundreds of millions of guns in your streets than with playing video games.
He is wrong, the government is wrong and we people of society, should choose are own path on this issue
No one has the right to assume anything causes us to act violently, we choose to do that under are own power.
No influence what so ever, it's a state of nature and fact. That we act violently at points in are lives, because we feel either trapped or lost or need to blow a casket or two
Some punch a wall, some kick a door, some fight with others and some do mass shootings
Neither games or life style or government are to blame. It's the individual