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Submitted by donniebaseball 609d ago | news

Xbox 360, not Wii, to win this console generation in the U.S.

DFC Intelligence's new report forecasts more Xbox 360s sold in the US than Wiis by 2017, and the PS3 isn't even close. (Industry, Microsoft, Wii, Xbox 360)

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Nyxus  +   609d ago | Well said
'In the US' is important to note here. Looking at the worldwide sales, it is actually very likely that the PS3 will overtake the Xox 360 soon, and Microsoft's console will end up in last place. At least as far as consoles sold goes.
berndogskate  +   609d ago | Well said
Already has in worldwide sales )
Red_Orange_Juice  +   609d ago | Well said
true dat

Xbox is 3rd = fact
mr_kubrick  +   609d ago
IDC says yes
NPD Group says no

choose your poison....wait i know what u choose
wishingW3L  +   609d ago
@mr_kubrick

IDC = World Wide sales

NPD = just North America

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guitarded77  +   609d ago
So winning == sales??? I'm not denying any of the consoles, but everyone talks about console sales, but never mentions attach rate and overall number of games sold.

Let's say a consoles have a 20% profit margin, but software has a 60% profit margin. Console A can sell 1 million units, and console B 500k units. But console A only sells 3 pieces of software per console, and console B sells 10 pieces of software per console.

There is a lot more to SALES than just SALES. And there's a lot more to success than just SALES. So sick of the SALES pissing match 10 times a week around here. Sales should matter to investors, gamers should be more concerned with games. The only reason sales are important to gamers is because it means more support from devs making games.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   608d ago
@Skate Shipments WW. People need to buy the console not the stores.
dredgewalker  +   608d ago
Can't we all just be happy that all our favorite consoles are selling well? Going by numbers this generation has the highest number of consoles sold and it shows that the market is still healthy. All three can co-exist in this market.
mcstorm  +   608d ago
The way I look at it is Nintendo have had the best console sales as the Wii Wowed the public like the Iphone did when it came out but its numbers have been dropping for the last few years and software sales were mixed as 1st party games sold well and only some 3rd party ones.

MS imo have had the best Gen out the 3 because at the beginning of this gen no one thought they could push out Sony in any way shape or form yet if you look at the sales numbers of the 360 it has walked all over the Xbox sales. Xbox is now a brand name and it managed to get a grip of the core market at the start and then eat into Nintendo's none core market with Kinect. Most of the 3rd party games sell more on the 360 to and a lot are created for the 360 and ported to the PS3.

For me Sony have been the biggest losers this gen as with the PSX and PS2 they walked all over Nintendo, Sega and Microsoft and I think because of that they thought the PS brand was bigger than it was. They had a very bad start and sales were very slow. Did not have many AAA exclusives out of the block and was way to expensive for the none core to buy when the Wii and 360 were at a lower price. Move was a flop to but im glad Sony messed up at the start as it has made them go back to the drawing board and see that they now need to offer some AAA exclusives and have given some amazing games like UC and LBP and in doing this they have managed to get the sales up to match and over take the 360 week by week in Europe and Match maybe even over take them in total sales but will have to wait for MS and Sony to give us the official numbers.

But the reason why I say sony where the biggest losers is because of the hold they had on the market with the PSX and PS2 as the PS3 dose not have this. Its sold very well and Sony have done well to get the numbers up to.

For me I cant wait for Sony and Microsoft to join Nintendo in the Next gen as I think the next gen will be even closer than this one in terms of all 3 selling around about the same number of consoles.

Once thing this gen has done is its shown us there is room for 3 big names in the console business and no matter if you a Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo fan boy you have to say having all 3 pushing each other every year and every gen makes it better for us gamers Core and none core in the long run.
badz149  +   608d ago
keyword is 2017!
that's a LONG time from now and probably Nintendo might have already released their next Wii by then!
Ult iMate  +   608d ago
It's like a weather vane: "PS3 is falling behind in third place! Oh, it isn't already? It's "sales don't matter" then! Oh, it contradicts with what we said for the last six years? Then change the course for "it's only US sales matter"!"
ChrisW  +   608d ago
What's better than being 1st or 2nd in the Special Olympics?

Not qualifying for the Special Olympics!
sikbeta  +   608d ago
X360 = 1st in America = Almost there: -1m to pass Wii

X360 = 2nd WW = Fact -> PS3 still doesn't overtake X360 in sales, but it's getting closer

Wii = 1st WW = Still
Tvensky  +   608d ago
just for the information..

In my country (Latvia) people buy x box console more not because its better, but because you can play pirated games on it.. but on ps3 you cant.. so there's that... 70% console here are x box just for that alone reason (no one plays xbox online here, we cant afford that in this country)... (the idea is that no one cares about games anymore, mainstream auditory is interested for casual games, low price and easy to use..)
Sales dosnt mean anything, people buy many cheap slow cars, does it makes them better somehow? no!
I own ps3 if you wonder..
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B1663r  +   608d ago
Sales forecasts are not sales results. For that IDC FORCAST to be correct, the PS3 had to have its best Christmas season ever, which it did not, it had its worst Christmas season ever.

No worries though, when Microsoft announces their real numbers in about two weeks, and Sony obfuscates their numbers again by combining them with ps2 numbers, we will all know the score.
hotrider12  +   608d ago
i believe IDC report of sales worldwide sales more believable.
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SPAM-FRITTER-123  +   608d ago
I thought it was confirmed World Wide SHIPPED. NOT Sales.
Amiroo  +   608d ago
shipment not sales.
over 76millions PS3 shipped worldwide and near 76 millions 360 sold to costumers in the world, it could be still 2 to 5 millions difference
VINNIEPAZ  +   609d ago
'In the US' is important to note here.

Yeah Im sure WE CAN READ that, why do you feel the need to point it out? Stupid article anyways as all the systems are "winning"

The big 3 are not stopping anytime soon
Kingofwiiu  +   609d ago
Why does he need to point that out?

Because the tiles is missleading and says ''xbox 360 to win generation not wii'' . That title doesn't say just in the US as it should.
Nyxus  +   609d ago
Like Kingofwiiu said, the title is misleading.
Red_Orange_Juice  +   609d ago
its misleading alright
KwietStorm  +   609d ago
Because this article doesn't make any sense.
RememberThe357   608d ago | Personal attack | show
Kurt Russell  +   608d ago
*you're...
jimbobwahey  +   609d ago
Yeah, it's certainly an interesting attempt at twisting the fact that as of right now, Microsoft is in last place for the second console generation in a row.

Of course that could change as time progresses, but since Microsoft dropped the original Xbox as soon as the 360 launched, and is already showing signs of abandoning the 360 to prepare for the launch of the next Xbox (given the massive drought in support for the console this year, amongst other things) it doesn't look good.

Microsoft does not support old hardware the same way that Sony does. Whereas the PS2 was still well-supported after the launch of the PS3, Microsoft completely abandoned the original Xbox and gave the adopters of their first console the finger. To think that the Xbox 360 will continue to shift units well into 2017 is wishful thinking at best.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   608d ago
To be fair MS had a reason to drop the original Xbox. Beyond their 1st party smash hit Halo 2, 3rd party devs didn't really support the Xbox I remember certain games not releasing or coming out much later on the Xbox (GTA). Overall lack of support and very slows sales didn't help it either. It is amazing how MS pratically said "erase that, lets try it again." Attitude.

The Xbox 360 is whole different ball game. Great third party support, a hand full of exclusives that sale very well and a streamlined unified online service. And 10X more supported than the original Xbox ever was. I can realistically see MS supporting the 360 at least a year or less than a year in a half.

Now with that being said, this little prediction chart is a little unrealistic. Why would people in the U.S (or in the world rather) continue to buy a 360 when they know they have to pay to play? People might as well pick up the 720 and possibly get way more out of it?
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nukeitall  +   608d ago
@jimbobwahey:

"Microsoft does not support old hardware the same way that Sony does."

You mean like how Sony poorly supports the PSP Go?

Let's get straight to the facts, the only history Sony has is pretty much of successful products when it comes to the Playstation console except for the last one. See Sony f'up PSP Go and they did the same darn thing as MS, just worse.

Sony is just as apt to pull support if the product is no longer profitable or makes sense in a business strategy. They are no more a saint than MS is.

@AngelicIceDiamond:

"Why would people in the U.S (or in the world rather) continue to buy a 360 when they know they have to pay to play? People might as well pick up the 720 and possibly get way more out of it?"

The same reason consumers have been paying to play all this time?

If anything, the NPD numbers showed that MS outsold both competitors combined this Holiday. That is some serious strength and MS still have plenty of room to drop the price, but they don't have to.

Consumers are saying "we are willing to pay more for your product and pay to use the product than other competing products available".
kenshiro100  +   608d ago
"If anything, the NPD numbers showed that MS outsold both competitors combined this Holiday. That is some serious strength and MS still have plenty of room to drop the price, but they don't have to.

Consumers are saying "we are willing to pay more for your product and pay to use the product than other competing products available"."

Proof? The last I heard, the PS3 was beating the 360 worldwide.
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PJF_Josh  +   608d ago
jimbobwahey has is right.

@nukeitall: Explain your reasoning please
"You mean like how Sony poorly supports the PSP Go?"
"See Sony f'up PSP Go and they did the same darn thing as MS, just worse."

Games are still being made and released in digital format for the PSP/PSP go. The PlayStation store has a dedicated PSP section with 839 games (and counting) available for the system. You can still buy memory cards, you can still buy games. The only thing it doesn't take is UMD's and we all knew that going in.

Sony never dropped support for the PSP Go. They discontinued the model, but that's not even close to the same as discontinuing support for the system. You can still buy one off eBay today and have access to over 800 games on the PlayStation store through the PS3 or the Go itself. That's a well supported system by any definition.

Does it have every title ever made for the PSP? No and it was never going to. It was an experiment, an attempt to see if a purely digital delivery device was possible at that stage of the game. They learned through resistance from a number of publishers and consumers that no, people weren't ready for that yet. That's why the PS Vita exists in the form that it does, a mix of digital services and physical cards.
1Victor  +   608d ago
@nukeitall your logic make no sense sure pick on the go that wasn't a new hardware but a attempt to go digital only witch costumers didn't like in price. Thanks to that mistake Sony learned that digital only wasn't the answer and now the vita got both on day one. Anyways enjoy the "win in the U.S" if that makes you sleep better at night but remember that "THE U.S IS NOT THE WORLD" stay trolling my friend like the Mets fans say "there's always next year/ gen
dboyc310  +   609d ago
Honestly no console really lost. Ye they do have the margin of who sold more but each held there grown respectfully. No one got demolished like the past two gens. If that would have been the case then yea one console would have "won" but in the end they sold respectfully and that's what counts. In my opinion No one was left behind.
soxfan2005  +   609d ago
@jimbobwahey
Did a recent report surface that shows the Gamecube passed the Xbox last generation? If it did, I must have missed it.

I don't know what's sadder - the fact that you have to post an outright lie in an attempt to make the Xbox brand look bad, or the fact that people actually agree with you. Just goes to show the minimal level of gaming knowledge among the masses here on N4G.

How can you accuse anyone of twisting facts when you don't even know what the facts are?
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Rainstorm81  +   608d ago
I don't know why u are getting disagrees , clearly the GameCube sold the worst out of the big three last gen.
greenpowerz  +   609d ago
NAH.The trend is worldwide although not as great as the us. I bet money that bs report saying PS3 pulled ahead will be disproven by MSFT and Sony's own report.

you guys did this last year when the companies own reports said the 360 won Worldwide yet PS3 fans ignored them and a week later it was as if the true reports never happen with Sony fans using vgc and other reports to claim PS3 was winning.

No one believes PS3 passed the 360(except PS3 fanboys, pro Sony media/data firms). Selling 5 million in a few months alone in one region makes the theory of PS3 passing the 360 comical at best
OMGitzThatGuy  +   609d ago
I don't see how PS3 fans can still go around saying it outsold the 360 when the numbers clearly says "shipped".
shipped =/= sold if it was there wouldn't be 2 seperate sets of numbers.
And if that was the case then if a dev ships 5 million units of a game and it sells 200k copies that dev will be praised. No.
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adorie  +   609d ago
Nailed.
"you guys did this last year when the companies own reports said the 360 won Worldwide yet PS3 fans ignored them and a week later it was as if the true reports never happen with Sony fans using vgc and other reports to claim PS3 was winning."

So,which returning account are you?, as they put it on this site? PowerOfGreen? LOL. (Joined 16 Jun 2012 (211d ago )

Sales! The new game this generation, hopefully it doesn't go into next gen, but I don't care either way, I enjoy playing games more than talking about them.
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KwietStorm  +   609d ago
Lol you never give up
nukeitall  +   608d ago
It's more than that, it's undisclosed how those market share numbers were obtained and suggest it was an estimation. Because the numbers are so close, it is within the margin of error alone.

Essentially there is no way to verify that report. That report sounds more like one of those "PS3 will overtake Xbox 360 at launch" type articles by analysts i.e. an extrapolation.

That also means avoid sites like vgchartz.
I think it is better to wait for the official numbers reported by each company or at a minimum by a trusted source like NPD that discloses how they obtain their numbers.
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YodaCracker  +   608d ago
This is not the first time a report has said the PS3 passed the 360 worldwide. Check out this one back in early 2011:

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

It's pretty much the same thing happening again with IDC's new projection that the PS3 has passed the 360 as of the beginning of 2013. Now check out this cute little prediction IDC released back in 2008:

http://img.photobucket.com/...

Ha, that image speaks for itself! As for IDC's new projection, to meet their projected sales numbers, the PS3 would have had to have its best Q4 in history while all sales numbers show the PS3 down well over last year, along with every other home console. In other words, it's not possible.

Once Microsoft and Sony release their Q4 2013 sales reports, the IDC report will be forgotten just like all those similar reports in the past. Although it's becoming harder and harder to pinpoint PS3 sales, with Sony now combining PS2 and PS3 shipments into one number as to further mask their real sales.
demobot  +   609d ago
At this point it doesn't matter where the 360 finishes. The 360 had already made a monster spot for itself.
ElementX  +   609d ago
Most countries don't have official numbers. I don't see how anyone can know who is ahead until Sony releases official numbers, which they are reluctant to do it seems.
jivah  +   609d ago
These companies are fairly accurate. They have to be. Its mostly for investor relations. And a legitimate analysis company falsely throwing out numbers can result in some deep shit
user3915800  +   608d ago
Always people trolling for no reason, does not matter who wi or loose I had fun with all3 consoles... If we are looking at console sale wii won worldwide, if we look at who made the most money from this Gen, than MS made the most money of them 3, fact look at income gain per company. There is no looser, but the 1 who lost the most this gen was sony.
DiRtY  +   608d ago
Well it all comes down to the definition of winning.

Sony lost 3-4 billion USD with the PS3.
MS made 1-2 billion USD with the Xbox 360.
Nintendo made even more money with the Wii.

MS could have bundled 40 million Xbox 360s with every happy meal, if they only went for market share like Sony did.

Same for the Wii. Even more so.

So all these "OMG SONY MADE A GREAT COMEBACK!" is just meh when you see beyond the number of sales.
Just_The_Truth  +   608d ago
Ps3 came with wifi, free online, a motion controller(6-axis), a BLU RAY player(which cost over $700 at the launch of the ps3), a removable hard-drive upgradable to 1TB, HDMI port, Flash card readers and gets a ton of great exclusives like Uncharted.......So who won? THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT A PS3
callahan09  +   608d ago
As someone who lives in the US, I'm always shocked at how well the 360 does here. I don't even know that many people that have an Xbox, most people I know have a PS3. But you can just tell from watching TV and movie, and from listening to people talk, that Americans seem to be all about the Xbox and Xbox Live. Frankly, I don't really get it. I understand that its popularity is sort of pushed along by the fact that it's popular. Like, popularity begets further popularity, like a perpetual motion machine of ever increasing popularity, because when someone gets it, they sign up for Xbox Live, and tell their friends they can be found there, so their friends get it too, and it spreads.

It's probably the same reason why if you know people with PS3, then you know more people with PS3, because it spreads in that same way; it just so happens that 360 got off to a great start in America and the PS3 did not, so the 360 has been spreading for longer and from a larger starting base... it's almost like its growth is exponential.

I feel like the PS3 is the smarter buy, because it is more of an all-in-one media hub with the blu-ray player built in, and because you don't have to pay a dime for the online play. Some 360 owners have probably spent 300-400 dollars on Xbox Live subscription fees since they've owned it.
fr0sty  +   608d ago
This is about as pointless as saying:

THIS JUST IN!!! Wii Fit declared best selling game ever (among 40+ yr. old married females with brown hair and at least one dog)...
Rainstorm81  +   608d ago
Best selling? It must be the best game ever!!!!!
dedicatedtogamers  +   608d ago
Nintendo has abandoned the Wii rather ungracefully. I would compare it to how Microsoft dumped the original Xbox. Therefore, "teh casuals" are pretty much done with the Wii and looking for another fix. If/when the 360 surpasses the Wii, I wouldn't so much chalk that up as "excellent job, Microsoft!". I would put it more like "shame on you, Nintendo, for abandoning your customers. Nice work, Microsoft, offering Nintendo's old customers a shiny new toy for a few months".

Oh, look! The 360! It can go online and I can dress up my 3d doll character and I can chat with friends and play Dance games and chat with my friends and go on Facebook?!? And, I can chat with my friends! Mommy, I want one!

The US is on the forefront of online social media. We are obsessed with Facebook, foursquare, Twitter, etc. Xbox Live is on the forefront of console social media integration. So, it comes as no big surprise that the system is thriving.

However, based on the diminishing number of exclusive titles and the diminishing sales of games on the 360, it should be clear as to WHAT the system is actually being used for.
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donman1  +   608d ago
It already has in global sales. Nice that Microsoft finally like Sony own their own territory... But thats about it.
nosferatuzodd  +   608d ago
I concur but don't tell those delusional Microsoft high horse type of people that .
Cam977  +   608d ago
You stated a fact, lol @ Xbox fanboys getting butthurt over the console's failure.
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princejb134  +   608d ago
People have to consider also things more than just sales
Also have to consider the games on the consoles
After all with don't play the hardware sales but the games we enjoy that make the console worth purchasing
andrewsqual  +   608d ago
What is that 5 per person?
imdaboss1  +   608d ago
First place would be the wii and 2nd goes to the PS3..It terms of sales world wide PS3 over take the 360 ..

World Wide
1st Wii
2nd PS3
3rd 360
DA_SHREDDER  +   609d ago
Microsoft wins, gamers lose.
TheRealHeisenberg  +   609d ago
We all lose every time we bother to read one of your comments.
GribbleGrunger  +   609d ago
'Xbox 360, not Wii, to win this console generation'

To win this generation the 360 would have to be the best selling console in WW sales, NOT just America. Clearly the writer has 'accidentally' overlooked that in the headline. I could write exactly the same article and use Japan in the same way, but I wouldn't do that, even if it did suit my purposes. It will have caught up by 2017 in America according to this article ... 2017!! Four years from now! And yet the media are telling us that it doesn't matter that the PS3 will catch up with the 360 'this year'.

Shoe/Other foot.
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jmac53  +   609d ago
How did the writer overlook anything when the title clearly states "in the U.S.". The article is clearly focused on the US market. If you want to include worldwide states write your own article. I live how xenophilic people get when it comes to the console wars.
GuyManDude  +   609d ago
"in the US" isn't in the title of this article on gamesindustry.biz or on N4G. It's in a heading afterwards, but not the title.
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kevnb  +   609d ago
define win? nintendo was making money day 1
zebramocha  +   609d ago
In the long run this forced them to release the wiiu earlier,unless this was their plan but I don't think so because they weren't making as much money with the wii.
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specsmatter  +   609d ago
Yes and gamers lost on that end because Nintendo sold an underpowered unit to make complete profit and gamers were stuck with horrendous ports, regurgitated ips and alot of shovel ware. Please define win?
TheRealHeisenberg  +   609d ago
It was a win because it brought in new gamers. Sure they were "casuals" but they are gamers none the less.

The only loss I see is MS's shift of focus over to Kinect. I bought one for the wife and kids and it has not been turned on or plugged in for over 6 months. They liked it for while but it got old. We never tried Move because it just seemed like a "me too/Wii 2" sort of thing. At least Sony continues to bring plenty of core games to the plate. Hopefully MS will pick things back up on that front next gen.
Theyellowflash30  +   608d ago
Wii got more core first party Nintendo games than the GameCube... and thats fact. If you didn't like the Wii thats cool but to say gamers lost is stupid. Gamers can own another system to fill the gaps.
ElectricKaibutsu  +   608d ago
Nintendo makes a profit on things they sell? What a terrible company!

Speak for yourself "gamers lost". I went the Wii/PS3 route and continue to have a great time with both.

Biased fanboys like you that miss out on great games are the true losers.
Rainstorm81  +   608d ago
The Wii control scheme was the problem for me, I don't want want to be forced into motion controls when I all I want to do is sit back and play Mario or Zelda.

Which is pretty much why I picked up a Wii-U at launch because nintendo's 1st party games will be more enjoyable with the Wii game pad than the wii mote .
Cocozero  +   609d ago
Well its been top selling console for nearly 2 years straight without a price cut and with the 720 round the console there should be one soon. And then the 360 sales will soar.
ceballos77mx  +   609d ago
Unless they do the same as the original Xbox don't expect sales to soar, on the contrary they will fall because people wont buy a console that will have no support.
WeAreLegion  +   609d ago
The PS3 has been the top selling console for three years. What are you talking about?
KrisButtar  +   609d ago
A little off topic but when they say US sales do they throw Canada in there as US sales seem to always be the same as NA sales.. Just curious

On topic, I'll say great job 360 in 4 years, don't see why this is news today
Axe99  +   609d ago
Haha, well said - I suspect that they do indeed mean all of North America, but it wouldn't be unusual for US authors to forget about the rest of their continent, the US has something of a reputation for parochialism ;).
KrisButtar  +   609d ago
I don't like to assume but it is pretty hard to find Canadian sales numbers, If Canada is included I would like to see how much of the pie is Canadian sales.
rainslacker  +   609d ago
Official numbers include the entire NA region. Sometimes you see them broken down into different areas within that region, (ie UK for European, US for NA, etc), but that's usually extrapolated from comments by the companies themselves. Investors don't really care, and tend to look at the overall picture, by region(NA, EU, Japan), and total worldwide.

NPD is US only. Not sure about the other ones. It's really the reason all these numbers discussions get so ridiculous, because people can make any argument by using selective facts.
sprinterboy  +   609d ago
Who cares about USA, Ps3 will be in first place by the time they stop production of the PS3.
Skips  +   609d ago
Now that really wouldn't be surprising. By the time the PS3 reaches $199.99

Sales will freakin...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

lol
CommonSenseGamer  +   609d ago
Do they get a ribbon for coming first? Honestly, it means nothing since you're only as good as your last console.
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Ron_Danger  +   609d ago
So what?! We'll all be playing PS4 and 720 by 2017 anyway. They'll win a "race" that's been over for years already by then...
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smashcrashbash  +   609d ago
Thank you.It is always good to hear common sense coming from the drivel that fills N4G. By 2017 their will be new consoles and no one will really care about which of the older ones passed whom.Does anyone care that much about how many systems the PS2 has sold since the new ones came out? No.By the time any of the older systems pass each other people will be too busy playing the new ones to care.I mean arguing which current console will sell the most,in NA,in the near future? You guys reach new levels of lameness every day.
Bar_Brothers  +   609d ago
Ps3 hasnt sold 77m nor 360 76m and this numbers are incorrect
This guys have no clue what they are talking about.

Lol this is talk to Fanboys can get OMFG the facts when they are getting false data from bad companies.

Keep Dreaming, WW 360 stills leads, Ps3 will surprass it this year though.

Both will end around 80m sold this year and LT neither will surprass 90m.

This Gen is dead.
specsmatter  +   609d ago
Thanks for the clarification patchter junior

Would you also like to point out the year and a half xbox lead and how it affected sales numbers? hahahahaha
dennett316  +   609d ago
Not that this sort of nonsense should matter, but you could also point out that the 360 has maintained this high level of success without a foothold in Japan to speak of. The console flopped miserably over there, pretty much negating the year and a bit head start they had.

Fanboys will argue this pap until the cows come home...truth is, the Wii blitzed them both. People always claim the Wii is worthless and is full of nothing but shovelware and mini game collections, but that's simply their ignorance shining through.
The Wii is home to a number of high quality releases, including games that could be considered as some of the best of the generation. It sold tens of millions more than it's more powerful rivals, and almost 200 million more games than either PS3 or 360 too. Fans of those consoles love to dismiss and wave the Wii off as a kiddie console....fans of games, however, know better.
DoctorNefarious123  +   609d ago
N4g needs a better filtering process. This article should have never reached the front page.
whoyouwit04  +   609d ago
why shouldn't this reach the front page when it's true
just because this isn't in article bashing 360 doesn't mean it should be ban. I guess this just rains on the fake ps3 77 million world wide article that you fan-boys have been drooling all over.
miyamoto  +   609d ago
you are correct

but sadly this is how n4g does it to keep its business rolling

but when positive ps3 news comes out they put them to fail status or does not make the headlines even with 200 comments

this retaliation is to expected though knowing M$

@HurtFanboy down below

yoohoo!

Numerous design changes.
Numerous price cuts.
Deleting numerous features.

duh, NES, Genesis, SNES has done these many times before...where you born yesterday?

what a laugh! keep it up you entertain me

Yup M$ is 200+ B company and yet can beat puny SONYNTENDO...
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a_adji  +   609d ago
2017. Sad sad sad.

The generation is over when all the new ones drop. Like it or not the Wii took it even though I sold mine a year or so before wii u dropped due to poor game ports by developers who caught caught out.
TruthHurtsFanboys   609d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(4)
Belking  +   609d ago
Not surprised if xbox does pass the wii in the US. They are getting closer and closer. Its like the xbox refuses to run out of gas in the US. It's into year 8 and still selling well. Plus, it's outselling two veterans industry opponents in the largest market. Say what you want but that is impressive. Just think, this is only the second console too. Xbox720(or whatever it will be called)is sure to be something special. Now lets see if they can continue applying the pressure next gen. Something tells me that they will.
Hicken  +   608d ago
Belking: I sell more consoles in California, which has the largest population(market).

Hicken: I sell more consoles in the other 49 states, which gives me more consoles sold than you, despite your larger population(market) in your one area.

Feel free to disregard the rest of the world from your comparisons, but here's something: when the PS2 did it, it wasn't just the largest market. It was EVERY market. THAT was impressive. And that was on the heels of the PS1 DOING THE SAME THING.

So the 360 sold well in the largest market. Good for Microsoft. Too bad they couldn't translate that into overall success, as it won't even be enough to keep them out of third place in sales by generation's end.

Now let's see if you come up with some other way to spin this BS. Something tells me that you will.
DK286K   608d ago | Spam
insomnium2  +   608d ago
@dk

" as neither 360 or PS3 is going to catch the Wii for overall first place. "

I stopped reading right there. It's quite clear that by the time 2020 when PS3 might be taken out of production it will be the most sold console leaving x360 and Wii behind. Saying anything else is braindead.

Last gen JUST NOW stopped after PS2 was taken off the production. Once the retail channel dries we can see what console won and by how many units last gen.

This is the one single rule that people HAVE GOT TO just simply UNDERSTAND. Same rule applies to every single console ever created up until now and in the future for as long as there is life on this friggen planet:

The count for a consoles lifetime sales will not stop untill every single console that has been manufactured is sold out of retail warehouses. Who the hell would ever be retarded enough to say othewise?
Jakens  +   608d ago
@ DK286K

I will love to see a huge Xbox price cut. And reading about it here will be even better. Say what you will but I buy my systems for games.
jeenyus  +   608d ago
@insomnium2

You must kid yourself if you believe Sony will manufacture PS3's until 2020, or even close to the time they spent on PS2.
darkvenom  +   609d ago
@truthhurts...
that's it! keep spinning fanboy,spin your little heart out.my god! you rank right up there with the mart,jason 360,power of green,and greenpowerz!,unless ....you're just one person with multiple accounts?,why so much hatred for sony?i personally wouldn't want any of the big three to leave,competing with each other have made things better for gamers.

p.s. get help!,so much hatred for a gaming console isn't healthy.
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ajax17  +   609d ago
Who the hell cares about U.S. numbers. I'm voting this website down!
ShaunCameron  +   609d ago
I wonder what took it so long to beat the Wii in America.

Anyways I'm proud of the gaming experience the Xbox 360 offered me from the day I bought it (9/10/2010). It was my personal PS2.
isalas011981  +   609d ago
I completely agree with "TruthHurtsFanboys"

I am still confused as to why these fangirls are happy that at the end of a these console's life cycle, Sony finally tied Microsoft in WW sales. What's more confusing is these fangirls dismissing the fact that the XBox is by far the most dominating console in North America when they are Americans. Do Japanese care about the XBox and how well its doing in the US? NO! So why should you Americans care that Sony is selling more consoles in Japan than your HOME COUNTRY!???? its time that you fake Americans start becoming more patriotic and supporting your native companies. Are you playing any Asian originated games or are you playing WESTERN originated games on your beloved PS3? Tell me, really, which territory is producing the games that are generating and selling multimillion dollar worth of games? SONY as a company is dead. They have lost their image to Apple, Microsoft, Samsung as a leading technology company. Their stock value has plummeted and their company as a whole is worth a whole lot less than Microsoft. Therefore with this logic, they will be able to advertise Infinity with a much larger budget and because of this budget, they will be able to include features on the new console as opposed to Sony who is bleeding money and most probably will be cost conscientious when designing their new system.

One thing is fore sure, you can forget about the specs being next gen as the PS3 was. PS3 was such an ambitious project, it took Sony literally 7 years to begin making a profit in the system. Every itineration(version) of the PS3 has been dumbed down, features deleted from the original Phat PS3 model. All this was done to make the PS3 profitable when manufacturing. Again, it only took 7 years for this to happen. Sony, its shareholders and board members WILL NOT MAKE THIS ERROR AGAIN.
tommygunzII  +   608d ago
Just because I don't buy a shitty product makes me a fake American? Boy please, that just makes you delusional.
It's like calling people that don't own a Ford Pinto in the 70's fake Americans, when in reality only the fools owned them when compared to the options available.
JamieL  +   608d ago
Wow, he must have really gotten under your skin. I don't know why people let themselves be controlled like this. You obviously have so much distain for the 360, that you willingly handed your strings to isalas011981 to give complete control of yourself to him. I also disagree with what you said. The 360 is an awesome console with much worth playing. That is if you like games.
Look man, I'm not trying to attack you or even say "you're wrong", we are all entitled to an opinion, but you should know how you come across when you let others get you so offended you give all control to them. Like it or not, that's what just happened.
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Monkeycan8  +   608d ago
I don't even care if i lose a bubble stfu.
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jakmckratos  +   609d ago
And by win, you mean come in third
ZodTheRipper  +   609d ago
Who cares about consoles shipped/sold, imo it's important who did the most for us gamers this gen, and that definately is Sony. No one took as much risk as them, no one brought us as much new IP's as them and no one could release fresh exclusives throughout the years apart from Sony.
JamieL  +   608d ago
I disagree, I think Nintendo took the most risk this gen. Don't get me wrong Sony took risk as well, but Nin based there whole console on a untested, never before seen control scheme. They took the biggest risk, and reaped the rewards for it. That being said I do agree 100% about the "games" thing. Sony is undeniably the best one in the industry when it comes to new IP's. I really hope MS start's to focus more on that, but sadly I don't see it happening. Sony hasn't exactly been a major success this gen with this strategy. It sucks for us gamers because that’s what we want, but these are businesses at the end of the day they do what makes money, and crazy as it is for some reason that isn't working well.
Max-Zorin  +   609d ago
I don't care about which sold more. All 3 did well this gen.
uiyewiusdfo   609d ago | Spam
PAYNEinc85  +   609d ago
Microsoft has profited more off of 360 than sony has the PS3. I think thats their main concern. Actual profits being made.
Belking  +   609d ago
No doubt about it. The cell and BR drove up cost for sony this gen.
sypher  +   609d ago
Really expect 360's to still be produced in 2017? I'm not.
sdplisken  +   609d ago
the only prizes microsoft have won IMO are the most people ripped off and the award for the least reliable hardware of all time
rainslacker  +   609d ago
So wait...Sales are important again now? It's getting hard to keep it straight.
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Ezz2013  +   608d ago
my head is spinning from hypocrisy
they say they don't care about sales
and now they say they care about it ?? ..

they flip flop when it suit them
madjedi  +   609d ago
Who won in sales the wii overall, but dumbasses on both sides look at it's game library would you really trade your game libraries that you love, for nintendo's barren(most of the time) lineup.

If you would, your a fucking fool and not a gamer. What matters is the games, who is first and second place in games i won't add my platform bias in to a already turbulent sea.

But everyone here knows who is dead last this gen in games nintendo, and anyone wanting to argue for nintendo. If it had the support like in the nes and snes day, it wouldn't be so throughly dead last.

Who is 1st, 2nd or 3rd only matters to bragging fanboys, if the wii was a 1st place lineup, i'll happily stick to sony's 3rd place lineup any day

@rainslacker it's important if it is a positive for your system or unimportant argument if it can be used to as a negative bullet against your system. It depends on the agenda behind the poster.

Welcome to news for shareholders, with biased opinions thrown in to keep the discussion active.
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rainslacker  +   609d ago
I'm aware. My comment was sarcasm aimed at the whole sales are/aren't important argument that's cropped up over the past few days.

However they are only important to fanboys, shareholders, and possibly developers. As far as developers are concerned now, both have plenty of sales to maintain support.
Jakens  +   608d ago
"Who is 1st, 2nd or 3rd only matters to bragging fanboys, if the wii was a 1st place lineup, i'll happily stick to sony's 3rd place lineup any day"

"FACT"
IAmTheBest35  +   607d ago
so im not a gamer if i dont like the lineup on the 360/ps3 more than the lineup on the wii?
madjedi  +   606d ago
If nintendo being #1 in sales is more important than having good games to play for your wii then the answer is yes.

I hate egotistical user names in general, if you have to claim something like that, typically the exact opposite is true.
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IAmTheBest35  +   606d ago
@madjedi
i never said anything about sales. you need to explain the connection youre making there because im not seeing it. i actually like the lineup better on the wii than on the ps3 and 360. and a so do a lot of other people. what im asking is, based off what you said, are we not gamers because we prefer the games on the wii? we are the fake gamers, and the people who like the lineup on the hd twins are the real gamers, right?
UnitSmiley  +   608d ago
Microsoft fans: Sales sales sales!

*PS3 which has been Outselling the 360 WORLDWIDE for years, finally gets ahead in overall numbers despite starting a year later*

Microsoft fans: This gen is over, sales don't matter.

Lol sure. Whatever lets you justify owning a console from a company whos only success has been convincing nongamers that the 360 is the "chillest console yo".
Least amount of exclusives = Fail.
Jakens  +   608d ago
"Least amount of exclusives = Fail"

Really?......No really!

Not a word was said here today about having a fun hobby. Investors may not care what is entertaing, however my wallet does seem to care.
Kamikaze135  +   608d ago
360 is beating the PS3 in the US, but the PS3 is beating the 360 world wide. Does it even matter? It's not like it's going to make your console obsolete in any way. You'll still enjoy playing the games you enjoy on it.
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