Next-Gen Consoles Will 'Be Better Than The Wii U' - Pachter

NowGamer: Industry analyst Michael Pachter is predicting trouble for Nintendo's Wii U when Sony and Microsoft release their own next-gen consoles.

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EddieNX 2012d ago

In terms of what Power ? Wiiu will be better in terms of innovation and exclusives. You can't beat Zelda , Smash bros , 3D mario , Metroid , Donkey kong , Starfox , etc.

That's just my opinion though which means nothing to a lot of you just Like Pachters means nothing to a lot of us.

user39158002012d ago

Innovation? Please, my pad dies in 2 hours, thats not innovation its simply poor planning, and yes both consoles will be more powerfull, heck they are now with the cpu been faster, its a fact, graphics look better but cpu strugles as stated by almost all developers. The only reason why I bought it now was cause it was a gift, otherwise I would have waited. Dont matter what system big N creates, I always buy their system for first party games, otherwise it would be a dead system, great software with poor hardware is nintendo style, it always been, with the exception of Super Nintendo. All their hardware has been the inferior its a fact.

1upgamer992012d ago

N64 was inferior to PS1? Gamecube was inferior to PS2? Really, thanks for the info.

decrypt2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

Lol Pachter

Console gamers.. Dont care about graphics.

Power is irrelevant, Wii U will be fine. Look at how the Wii turned out, highest selling console last gen yet was the weakest.

deadfrag2012d ago

DO you have a WII U?!So you brought it or was a gift?Because your comment dont make sense;im guessing you dont own a WII U and you are simple trolling!

cpayne932012d ago

"All their hardware has been inferior its a fact"

Check your facts man. That's just plain wrong.

riverstars862012d ago

Decrypt, console gamers don't care about graphics? I'm sure that may be true for Nintendo fanboys like yourself, but for the majority of console gamers, graphics are important. The Wii was so popular because it was the first console to implement motion controls. The Wii U doesn't have the same wow factor that the Wii had, the controller is a gimmick that will not catch on.

Also, the online infrastructure on the Wii U is worse than current generation consoles. In my opinion, Nintendo dropped the ball with the Wii U, third party support is going to be awful and it's sales will be affected by that at the end of the year. I look for Microsoft to claim the majority of casual gamers this generation.

herbs2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

Nintendo has always been King of doing more with less and the snes is actually a perfect example of this. It was by know means state of the art at the time but was a perfect balance of components that made it competitive even against rival 32 bit systems. Maybe history will repeat maybe not?

Apex132011d ago

Dude that is BS my pad last for at least 3-4 hours straight play.

Why would anyone want to play more then that or up to that is sad. Get a life people

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deafdani2012d ago

Sony has a lot of strong exclusive IPs as well, so your argument ("you can't beat Mario, Zelda, etc) is purely subjective. At least you aknowledged it was your opinion.

Regarding the "innovation" part... we don't actually know what Sony's and Microsoft's next consoles will bring to the table, besides more power. So you can't make any statement regarding innovation until all the machines are out.

corrus2012d ago

Nothing can beat Heavy Rain Beyond Two Souls Uncharted and The Last Of Us

Novistador2011d ago

How can someone beast something that is not even out yet? Seriously stop saying the Last of Us is the greatest game in existence when it is still in production, will it be a good game? I hope so, but anything can happen.

Genuine-User2012d ago

My assumption is that In terms of power, next gen from Sony and Microsoft will destroy current gen including the Wii U.

As far as innovation goes, PC and PS3 are on top of my list.
In my opinion PS3 has the best exclusives. Heavy rain, beyond, sly cooper, puppeteer, Uncharted series, god of war 3, heavenly sword, infamous 1&2, journey, flower, killzone 2&3, the last of us, little big planet series, metal gear solid 4, Ni no Kuni, papo & yo, ratchet and clank series, resistance series, siren, the unfinished swan, etc.

I really like Nintendo, I just think they need to up their game and innovate more often. Hardware innovation is all good but what about the games. The last new IP from Nintendo was Pikmin on GameCube. That's kind of pathetic to be honest.

pikey2011d ago

Hmmm. xeno blade, last story, mad world. i think there were a few more.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

"Wiiu will be better in terms of innovation and exclusives. You can't beat Zelda , Smash bros , 3D mario , Metroid , Donkey kong , Starfox , etc. "


Anyway can't wait for ps4 & 720!!

360ICE2011d ago

Can't we just reserve judgement? Is it really your opinion that no matter what the other manufacturers dish up you can't beat that line-up? I'd say that line-up has been beaten three generation is a row now, but I'm willing to be convinced that they can win this generation. To be honest, I'd like to see three major new franchises from Nintendo this generation. Three major ones, that they can keep for generations.

There were hardly one on Wii.

SugarSoSweet2011d ago

What innovation? a Ipad wannabe?

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Dailynch2012d ago

"Zelda , Smash bros , 3D mario , Metroid , Donkey kong , Starfox , etc."

Yeah, all those games that fail to change with each iteration.

You've already played them. I'm waiting for new consoles with real power and can implement actual change - not just a redundant second screen.

Zechs342012d ago

Anyone who thinks the second screen on the Wii U is redundant obviously doesn't own one.

People complain because we need new consoles, that we need a Wii HD, that we need realistic graphics for Nintendo games finally. We get all that and now it's something else,

:Sigh: Bunch of crybabies. No wonder society is a state of decline.

riverstars862012d ago

I own a Wii U and find the second screen to be more of a distraction. I just don't see the major innovation with it yet, I'm looking for Nintendo to wow me this E3 with it's first party games, which will be the only games worth purchasing once the new Xbox and Playstation come out.

pikey2011d ago

river, your inablity to focus when presented with two screen is your problem. Doesnt mean its not a good idea.

chadboban2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

Wait, so you're telling me that Super Metroid is the same as Metroid Prime, or that Wind Waker is the same as A Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time or even Majora's Mask. That Mario Galaxy is the same as Mario Sunshine. That Starfox 64 and Starfox Adventures are exactly alike. All of those games are quite different from each other be it aesthetically or gameplay wise.

I mean, I could say the same thing about the Halo series but even that wouldn't be true seeing that each interation does see refinements in the gameplay department.

"Actual change" as you put it is up to the developers, not the hardware. We still have absolutely no idea what Sony and Microsoft have in store with their new consoles, we don't even know Nintendo's plans for the Wii U for the rest of the year.

We are in a market that becoming increasingly harder to read, I mean people said it was curtains for the 3DS when the Vita was revealed and look what happened there. I think we should all wait and see what each company has in store. I'm rather excited to see what all 3 of them are coming with this year.

Joegrine202011d ago

dude idk why u bother with them. they are a bunch of backsides. Anything nintendo gets bashed left, right and centre. A good article from nintendo doesnt get any views. That's this site and the "gamers" on this site doesn't really care. Give it rest man stop trying. As for me, i'm getting a wii U as soon as E3 comes and nintendo announce their 1st party titles along with that RETRO STUDIOS game. That's all i'm waiting to see.

Novistador2011d ago

Bold claim from the person with a halo icon Dailynch. Each Zelda, Smash bros, and Mario sit in development for years and when released make consoles fly off the shelves. Hell look what Mario and Rayman did for side scrolling games, like it or not Nintendo has had a major impact on the gaming industry and much of it is attributed to many of the games you say "fail to change"

herbs2012d ago

Why are this idiots flip floppy opinions even considered relevant and why must gaming sites continue to promote his B.S. Please stop...

ElectricKaibutsu2011d ago

All analysts flip flop, except the psychic ones, but they don't exist so we're stuck with Pachter.

Nevers0ft2012d ago

Who decided that gaming world has to pay attention to this d**khead and why wasn't I asked to vote? The guy cannot even keep a consistent opinion so why would anybody pay attention to it? Why is this post formed entirely of questions?

LOL_WUT2012d ago

I think we can all agree with Patcher on this one. And For those that don't agree they're either scared or don't want to admit it. ;)

3rdDimension2012d ago

Patcher and everyone else also agreed the 3ds would get destroyed by the Vita.

donman12011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

@ 3rdDimension..A very valid point.

Every generation and every nintendo product release is met with these so called experted making the statement this is the end. At what point will they collectively take their heads out their own ass and just be quiet. Hmmm lets look at the facts shall we... Wii U currently is selling at a much higher rate than the Xbox360 and PS3 when they release respectfully at the same early stage of their life cycle. Dont believe me then go and research it.

So how exactly is the Wii U failing when it is selling more then the Xbox360/PS3 during their own respective launch window? I for one work with and have an educated discussion on facts and not fanboys stupid comments or so called gaming experts personal agenda against a profitable company.

At the end of the day I will compliment my Wii U with a PS4 when it release because Nintendo and Sony have the best 1st and 2nd party titles of the three gaming console companies. Whatever 3rd party AAA title the Wii U doesn't get... I know the PS4 will. That combo will be the best gaming option moving forward. The reality is we now live in a two console gaming culture. Getting a PS4 and the Xbox720 doesn't make much sense if you are looking for a diverse gaming experience.

Novistador2011d ago

What do you mean the Vita isn't selling as well as the 3ds!?! Just look at the charts.. oh wait... Well look at all the amazing games in development for the vita... Crap looks like Sony is botching another handheld system. You think they would have learned something from the psp.

Nevers0ft2012d ago

Better graphics != Better

Few will doubt that the MS and Sony consoles will push a few more polygons but I'll take a few Nintendo design choices over more realistic facial hair any day of the week.

SilentNegotiator2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

But more power = better potential

How do you know what design choices will be made in the 8th generation?

Nevers0ft2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

@SilentNegotiator - I don't and I never said I did. My point is, Nintendo has some of the best designers in the business and first and foremost their games tend to be incredibly playable. I've seen plenty of games with whizz-bang graphics that played like ass. In many respects graphics get can in the way of excellent design (and introduce bugs), as evidenced by the popularity of games like Fez, VVVVVV or even Angry Birds.

exfatal2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

i bet you dont even own a wii u, by that comment. Patcher can make some good points, kinda like those times when there's a blue moon out. But he's super bias and anyone who doesnt see that is either a cod fan boy or a ninty hater.

or both lol

PopRocks3592011d ago


I think it's really sad you think everyone can agree with Pachter of all people.

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