VGI writes..
"As the embargo lifts on Ninja Theory's new take on the Devil May Cry series, a quick Metacritic search herald’s high praise.
Critics, as of writing this, love it. It's westernised, sure, but its authenticity hasn't changed the formula into something unrecognisable.
With such acclaim, comes a salad bowl of disappointment Something the 'hardcore' fans are quick to respond to."
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Title = provocative
Me = easily provoked, therefore provocative = trolling
Me provoked = me upset
Read article = negative, too upset.
Me upset = Me comment
Blame current state on article because:
Writer = Article
Article = Title
= Insult writer based on title of article
Sure, the article is light fluff, but if people actually agreed with it then they =/= upset and no insult to the writer would follow (probably), so it's kind of a double standard.
Me? No, this is me:
N4G article = write snyde comment
Why would anyone want to read the article with such a title? Describing upset fans as going "Waaaah" makes the article writer sound like he's 10 years old.
By all means don't, but then it seems fair to also not make general comments that include the article and the writer.
Because hey, instead of coming up with valid counterpoints or attempting to have discussion and seeing all sides of the picture, why not use a website to insult people so that said people will visit said site and get said site more money. YAY JOURNALISM WORKS!
Self-important site downvoted.
**EDIT** HAHAHA! To show their schoolyard mentality, the author updated the post and used an out of context quote from my own post. So DmC fans, tell the truth. Do you really want someone like this Bill O'Reilly wannabe representing you?
They mad bro."
This is the first paragraph of the article. So please, stop trying to act like it's a bait and switch type of article that uses the headline to make people read an intelligently written piece. It's a couple hundred words worth of biased BS that looks like it's written by an NT employee that specifically quotes comments of people who have no idea what the hell they're talking about while failing to give a proper rebuttal to people with actual concerns.
Everyone knows that the only opinion that matters is that of the people being paid by the publishers to advertise the game on their site. THAT is where the most unbias of glorious opinions will spawn from.
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If the fans hate it, then what's the point? With that said, I'm very glad that Ninja Theory STFU recently and let the game do the talking because it actually looks like one of the best games to come from Capcom in a long time, although that's not saying much,
I think people lack the imagination to come up with a truthful title that is relative to the content it wants to lead you to.
You don't need to resort to sensationalism to get hits, you can be thoughtful, inventive, imaginative enough to lead people to your article without resorting to half truths and out of context trash.
The author writes this article, taking shots at DMC fans and N4G users whining, then proceeds to whine about said fans while uploading their article to N4G to get hits so they get paid by their advertisers.
The site is a joke and should now be banned from here. Let see how far their crap little blog gets once they no longer have access to N4G. I'm not even a fan of DMC either, but played the demo for the latest outing and I could see how crap it was.
As for "DmC Critics: "It's Good" DmC Fans: "Waaaaaaaaaaaah", not only is this a childish title but something needs straightening out to these "critics".
YOUR opinion doesn't mean a damn thing. WE gamers buy the games. We are the ones who make a game a success or not because we buy them and don't get them for free. Who do developers turn to for opinions on sequels? Gamers! Not critics.
It's about time that these critics get of their damn high horses and stop acting like they're so important in our buying decisions. If i see a game that I like the look of, I'll buy it. I don't need so over-opinionated arse telling me what I can and cannot buy with my hard earned money.
Also, the purpose of review is to give an opinion as to the quality and enjoyment of a product. This is not exclusive to the video game industry, as you may well be aware. Reviews do influence people. Reviews are SUPPOSED to influence people. A writer who is voicing their opinion without the intent of having the reader agree with or at least understand said opinion is not a very good writer.
That said, yes reviews matter. The funny thing is, when our expectations of a product coincide with a reviewer's opinion, you don't hear the incessant whining like you do every day on this site and others - you get happiness and rainbows. Nobody is angered when we get what we want.
Of course they're gamers. Doesn't change the fact that I buy the game so their opinion doesn't mean jack. Also, just because they have an outlet to voice said opinion, doesn't mean that they can become holier than thou to other gamers.
Also, if reviews are influencing people's buying decisions, then they're sheep. Simple as. Review scores mean nothing. Never have. It's the content of the games that matter. If you think it's something you may like, then buy it. Anyone buying games just because some person with a blog said "10/10 buy, buy, buy" are spiting themselves.
Reviews stopped mattering when the reviewers started hyping up games in previews for months/years until release, only to trash them when they release. They have no credibility anymore.
As for "we" being happy when a game gets good reviews, nope still don't care. Like I said, if I like the look of a game, I'll judge it myself from gameplay videos. From their I can decide whether it is a full priced, on sale or not at all purchase. I've played games long enough to know whether I'll like a game or not. I don't need some random reviewer to make my decisions for me.
And those are just two recent examples...
And most reviewers said that ME3 was amazing but the ending was disappointing.
So those were two bad recent examples
You're Fat and Balding: WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
It's not that good. DmC is literally a mix of Heavenly Sword and DmC. Primarily a Heavenly Sword clone with different elements added in.
The Slow/power stance (R1) aka Demon Stance (Press and Hold in R2 in DmC)=Heavenly Sword
The Speed stance (L1) aka Angel Stance (Press and Hold L2 in DmC)=Heavenly Sword.
Where in the originals, pressing a button had that primary weapon chosen and you used and in the middle of a combo you can press it at the drop of a dime and continue the combo rather than in DmC where you press and hold and just "Chain combos together," Aka Button masher. The automatic launcher and the lack of a lock on button.
They added the enemies where they raise their weapons and before they attack the weapons shine . You know where that came from Heavenly Sword, not Devil May Cry. QT Events came from Heavenly Sword and God of War NOT Devil May Cry!
You say they can traverse the landscape with the angel weapon and bring enemies to you/go to the enemies. I say that is a Nero element of the Devil Bringer that does not suit Dante. Gave the guy unlimited air time, which in previous games the air time could be extended but not unlimited! Devil Trigger and powers are just awakened but yet strong enough to **** ****** (Spoiler) Hmm doesn't even make sense because in DMC 1, He was fully developed with his powers and **** ******.
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DmC Critics and DmC fans? As if the original series was called DmC.... DmC is the Recent games' name while the predecessors are Devil May Cry or DMC really....
This guy wants to cause a flame war, it's not really commendable or brave, just stupid, of course.
That and the nonsense that is, he says Fans of DmC are whining about DmC? How can a Fan(Person who is a fan of a game) whine about a game they're a fan about? It's clear that if people dislike a game, they are not fans of it....So correlating DmC Fans and a response of 'WAAAAAAAAAAH' is a bit illogical, no? :P
but they way it look and they way dante look
don't feel right with me
and the way he say F*** alot and i mean alot
make me feel bad of what they have done with DMC
that's not dante i used to love and care about in ps2 era
i don't know about the story and the Gameplay look alright
so i won't jude story and gameplay yet
but i don't have much faith in those too
DMC Fans: "Waaaaaaah".
Journalists: "Thanks for the cash" *slurp, gulp, slurp, gulp*
GAME OF THE CENTURY!!!!!
No matter what, you are not going to get a non biased opinion till sometime after its official release.
NT did that in real life
and they did it in the game as well
just to make sure DMC real fans got the message
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The Devil May Cry die hard's will only focus on what is different from the original series.
Who's opinion is more trustworthy?
Capcom and NT are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
I guess the new Batman movies should never have been made then since they are a reboot. For them movies to be based off their own merit they shouldn't have been Batman movies.
People just don't see this game as an improvement over the old ones and they have legitimate gripes.
Its like the haters have it dead set in there mind that everyone hates the game. The ones that like the game think they do but they really don't.
I do think there is some that already decided they would hate the game so nothing NT could do to change that.
Now stop saying the game sucks when you haven't played the full game. I can understand u didn't like the demo so your not going to waist your money on the game. why spend $60 when I can get something else? Thats reasonable.
But who knows. The rest of the game could of been fun and that one part of the demo u hated. Thats why u should never know if you like the game or not.
DMC4 is pretty much a carbon copy of DMC3, the only problems DMC4 had was the insane amount of back tracking fighting Bosses over. And Thats the reason why The game was rebooted because HARDCORE FANS looked at DMC4 and thought meh! More of the same. and now that the franchise has been rebooted, suddenly you want it to go back to what it use to be!
Seriously, what is the author's intention here? To get hits? To piss people off? To cause arguments? Because it's not going to change anybody's mind about the game. Those who aren't interested in the game aren't going to buy it, and those who ARE interested in the game will buy it regardless.
i better call the national guard before you infect the whole N4G site
Yes. Its called yellow journalism, the UK is infamous for this. Why do you think we have TMZ here in the states now?
Looks like N4G just found a new partner to create hits and exploit more sensationalist content....wonderful.
It's fun watching all the DMC fans squirm right now in response to all the positive reception the reboot is receiving, not just from journalists but folks who have picked up the game early through whatever means. They desperately wage their war against a video game in the vain hope that their influence will cease its existence and bring back to precedence the original iteration, and on the cusp of DmC's release, this is when they scream their loudest.
"Waaaaaaaaaaaah" indeed. It's pathetic.
Bravo Ninja Theory. May your haters enjoy that piece of humble pie they're eating...
And what a shallow , hollow , and petty victory . Didnt Enslaved garner 100% approval and praises from the same press ? And yet did it matter ? nope , not in the least .
Almost no one expected bad scores for the games , so eat your own pie before it gets too cold
B) a petty victory is just deserts for the petty collective of gamers that have done nothing but bash Ninja Theory from the moment they realised 'new Dante' wouldn't have white hair
Face it, had DmC got poor reviews across the board, the haters would be screaming "ha ha" at the top of their lungs, so I'll make you a deal; I'll reheat my pie if you stop calling me black, Pot...
Best,
'Kettle'
B. I'm sure some would be happy ... again i just wouldnt care . I've been vocal enough about how little i care about most of those sites' opinion about games , way before the whole dmc thing .
Dont expect me to conjure some "capcom bought them" theory either , i just chalk it up to their usual flaws and short comings .
Finally i dont have to call you anything , who are you again ? I care about the franchise and only need to discuss that , not some sore gang of winner/losers .
Okami flopped in the sales department. At least the game was great and that is what matters and that is what the fans will remember.
I'm just in wait and see mode . Waiting to see if it's the decided path , and then i'll just give up on the franchise ... or if it goes elsewhere .
1. Story
2. The combat
Anyway I can't wait to download my copy when 12:01 am hits. Hope everyone enjoys the game!
This is the truly pathetic aspect of the affair . The press does it's job as usual , badly or not , why feel the need to gloat about their opinions ?
Who expected bad scores after months of them praising the game ? And after praising the previous games from Ninja theory .
All i can say is , i'm not surprised , still dont care about their input , and that what matters ultimately is weither or not the game fails or succeed in sales , to decide once and for all the fate of the franchise .
I dont need to repeat wich outcome would "please" me most .
But if you want the game to fail in the sales department because you don't like the direction that NT took, that is a respectable opinion, minus the fact you want a great game to fail.
The game is good, in fact, I'm going to be brave here and say it's actually faithful to what DMC is. You see there is a consensus, not just among the publications you hate but across most publications, that is why the game holds an aggregate score of 85 on metacritic right now.
I honestly hope NT pursues this direction, as I've said before, DMC has always been about reconciling style with combat not difficulty and combat. Much too often people develop a false sense of proficiency just because they've played the "originals".
Though I stand by my choice and will have nothing to do with this game though that was more of a deciding factor on Tameem's software development methodology which I think is absurd from a professional standpoint. If you want my full view on this feel free to PM me.
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Got myself in a catch-22 if the re imaging succeeds the franchise will continue to go into a direction that me and other people don't approve of. If it fails in sales then the series is more then likely going to be gone.
People seem to not understand that it is people that make these games, if you take the people out of what made the games great in the first place your taking the original soul away from it. Look at the Silent Hill franchise after Team Silent left Konami no Silent Hill title has overcome the pinnacle of the series which was Silent Hill 2.
The boss you fight in the demo is exactly what Eurogamer's talking about - they basically put how to kill the guy in neon lights. The dialogue's just as awful as Polygon says it is - "F You" over and over isn't funny when it's done like it's a serious retort. The bit about the end boss is really, really disappointing. That's like the bread and butter of a good action game - look at Bayonetta! You ride a motorcycle up a rocketship to fight God in that game, and it's amazing. The next big action game should one-up that, not flop!
Neither of them mentioned the framerate, which is a huge dealbreaker for me, but I understand that not every consumer cares about that.
Basically, if you want more Devil May Cry, you'll want to take a blowtorch to this game. If you're interested in Devil May Cry but never played it, this is no good intro, the characters are horrible. But it's still... technically... alright. I guess. It'll be a steal at five bucks in a bargain bin. I'll wait three months for it to be free on Playstation Plus :P
That the industry is just spinning on itself.
fans with money > critics
However, I understand why fans would be a bit miffed by the whole thing. Having seen a good number of franchises that I've loved crash and burn last year, I know that feeling too well but I will wait until I play the full game before I make any pronouncements.
It's like everyone's forgotten about Devil May Cry 3 and have completely downgraded their standards. Ryan Clements knew he couldn't avoid talking about the low difficulty and so tried to whitewash it by claiming it was 'designed to be fair; not easy.'
And the swearing in the video review really changed my opinion of Ryan Clements too.
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By the way I'm not knocking any one staying with there parents I know times are though and some people are forced to move back home.