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Developers on the next-gen nature of Wii U and its potential

GE: "Is the Wii U a next-gen console? Some will say yes, others will say no. This is a topic that has been debated since Nintendo announced the console at E3 2011, and will likely be a point of discussion in the future." (Wii U)

exfatal  +   1120d ago
glad to hear some good things about the wii U
Phil32  +   1119d ago
The 13 disagrees prove to me that some supposed "gamers" in this industry would rather see a console they don't like do bad even though it would not be good for the industry they are supposed to love. Absolutely shameful.

Exactly what is wrong with hearing good things about the Wii U? Does it make the haters' sphincters bleed? Does it make them cry like the children they are? And yes, they ARE children because adults don't act like that.
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exfatal  +   1119d ago
I couldnt agree more, im nto a fan of xbox,, but because of that i just dont go to 360 related articles, but apparently some people find it absolutely necessary to take time out of their day to hate on a system they probably dont even own 9or plan on owning. its funny in a sad way.
corrus  +   1119d ago
Is this next generation ????????????????????
Old McGroin  +   1119d ago
@ corrus

I don't really care if it's "next-gen" or not, I haven't owned a Nintendo console since the SNES so I'm excited at the chance to finally play games like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Starfox etc... in high definition. Well, that is when they're actually released! I didn't buy the Wii U so I could brag to my friends that I have a "next-gen" console (most of my friends didn't even know there WAS a new Wii!), I bought it because I know that when the AAA Nintendo titles start appearing they'll have that epic nostalgic feel that only Nintendo IPs seems to have that reminds me of why I became a gamer. Nintendo games are fun and don't need to rely on hyper real graphics to show their worth.
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PopRocks359  +   1120d ago
Basically what I got from this is "The Wii U CAN produce some nice looking games, but that's not the point of the platform." Considering that not a single game for it pushes the console, I doubt we're close to seeing its full potential from a gameplay or graphical standpoint.
Kingofwiiu  +   1119d ago
The wiiu is a LEAP over current consoles. Here's why.

When the xbox 360 launched 90% of the games looked the same as xbox 1 with a higher resolution and some tacked on textures here and there. Some sports games even had framerate issues. And the consoles was generally regarded as a RROD disaster.

All those things were due to Microsoft rushing to get their console out first and hassling devs to do the same with games. So everything turned out poo poo.
A similar thing has happened with wiiu.

The graphics are the same as 360 ,in a few cases a tiny bit worse in some cases a tiny bit better. AKA ''on par''.
But it's not the graphics of the Wiiu that is important.

It's the Off screen play , Asymetric play and generaly having a big ass touch screen controller that demonstrates the leap. Obviously the graphics will be awesome by the end of 2013 and it will at least be demonstrating graphics that are clearly ahead of 360/ps3 albeit clearly behind 720/ps4.
1upgamer99  +   1119d ago
Games on 360 looked and played like CRAP upon realease...RUSHED AND MORE RUSHED...Yeah and not only did the games play badly (oh gosh accept for Halo 2) RING OF DEATH...Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone that would like to argue I had a 360 day 1...
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TheNocturnus  +   1119d ago
I had a 360 day one as well, I still have my receipt. You can't tell me that COD 2 looked and played like crap. That game was the best launch game and it's graphics blew away anything we had seen on consoles previously. Kameo looked pretty sweet as well.
ape007  +   1119d ago
Perfect Dark Zero looks much better than zombie u and it was released in 2005
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Old McGroin  +   1119d ago
Reality disagrees with you.

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ape007  +   1118d ago
reality says u haven't play PDZ
PJF_Josh  +   1119d ago
Yeah, and how'd that work out for Microsoft in the long run? Just sayin'
lfclee  +   1119d ago
I fully agree with you , why there are so many wii u haters is because ?
The Only People That Are Mad At You
For Speaking The Truth
Are Those People Who Are Liveing Lie !
Always Tell The Truth !
Nevers0ft  +   1119d ago
I couldn't agree more! Either due to ignorance or downright fanboyism some people refuse to acknowledge that hardware takes time to learn and exploit. There will be a significant leap in the Wii U 2nd generation games, as there will be with the 3rd.

Heck, the Demoscene is still managing to push some 8 and 16bit machines into performing new tricks 30 years after they were released.
Deku-Johnny  +   1119d ago
It took three or four years to find out what the PS3 could do. I reckon we'll see some fantastic games on Wii U in a few years not only in graphical terms but I'm sure some very creative people will come up with some amazing ideas for the gamepad.
specsmatter  +   1119d ago
It didnt take thre to four years to get awesome looking games and truly nxt gen games on the ps3 sorry but Resistance was launch and look what reviewers stated "truly next gen" heavenly sword was shortly after and lair and looked awesome at the time and then of course came mgs4 one of the best games of all time so i dont know where ppl get this info from.

Thats the problem with wiiu neither at launch or any time after did it have one game that looked or felt next gen like all the other systems had. Zombi u was suppose to be that game and looks worse than four year old games so you guys can keep stating lies but it just isnt true.
Deku-Johnny  +   1119d ago
That's the thing you don't understand. The 7th gen only really look 'next gen' at the time because of the whole HD thing. PS4 and 720 aren't going to look much better than 7th gen just like Wii U doesn't right now. Just like PS2 didn't look much better than PS1 when it first came out. Not every gen can have a massive leap.
Nevers0ft  +   1118d ago
The eShop is probably the home of the two best looking Wii U games at the moment - Trine 2 DC and Nanostray. It might be due to the faster turnaround and lower overall complexity of games intended for the eShop that allowed them to focus on the graphics more, but they're damned fine looking games that *would* have to take a graphics hit to work on the 360 or PS3 - Trine is simply sublime and Nanostray has DoF effects everywhere.... Don't take my word for it though, the developers have said the same.
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lfclee  +   1118d ago
You speak a lot of sense pity the fanboys didn't Welldone ! Here's a Bubble .
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AO1JMM  +   1119d ago
It is next gen nintendo and that is all that matters.
DivineAssault  +   1119d ago
who cares if u get what u want for it.. Enjoy the thing & play wtf u want.. I want rayman legends & bayonetta.. So far thats it but i hope it changes w new announcements
bigbearsack  +   1119d ago
I can't wait to see what Nintendo brings this coming year.I was on the outside debating on getting a Wiiu, but when I seen "Wonderful 101" I knew I was going to get a Wiiu eventually. Another seller for me is the off screen play, which works perfectly.
XXXL  +   1119d ago
Once they get the VC working on the Wii U with gamepad use I'm getting one. Can't wait to play Link to the Past on the shitter!
jrbeerman11  +   1119d ago
how can anyone argue with zelda on the toilet?
UnholyLight  +   1119d ago
What the Wii was to this Gen

The Wii U is to Next Gen
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Grimhammer00  +   1119d ago
A lot of optimism in here. Good stuff.
But...lets take a look into a obvious future.

Once the 720 & PS4 are virtue of specs the WiiU should be incapable of producing the graphics and physics of these newer consoles. Especially when the design of all three of these consoles are seperated by their end design. Ps4/720 will be meant as powerhouses....though I wouldn't expect this gens level of wow factor in jump.

I've read that WiiU won't be capable of playing Unreal 4 or Rage 2.0.....I certainly see that as possible. And would relegate WiiU to Ninny 1st party and not much else. Just recently EA stated their wont be a Crysis 3 on WiiU.....reason being there's no market. What?!

FPS sell and certainly would on WiiU....but I suspect Crysis 3 devs/EA feel that it may be too difficult in some areas.
UnholyLight  +   1119d ago
You're right, it's not even up for debate. I had the Wii U for like 2 weeks and then I realized how stupid I was. Other than a new Pikmin game and maybe Zelda or something, there's no point in me spending $400 for a console I KNOW I will hardly play ever when something that is WAYYYY more powerful like Nextbox and PS4 is in my living room.

The tablet screen thing is amazing tech, but it's easily replicable if Microsoft and Sony choose to go that way as well, especially when their consoles will have way more power devoted to it.
WiigotU  +   1119d ago
Hold your horses cowboy. If the ps3 launched at 600 and it was a powerful machine will we see a 600 or lower price tag on a even more powerful machine? I doubt it I could be wrong though. But know this If the ps and xbox are at similar price points with similar graphics and what ever else is in the box. Someone will struggle. Also who the hell made you a game developer or publisher.
Qrphe  +   1119d ago
Yes, there is a difference between games like Resistance and TLoU graphically but the former is not a gen behind the latter.
What I'm trying to say is, that although games will look better along the road on the Wii U, don't expect them to all of a sudden pull 1080p 60fps games with good effects out of thin air, specially when the other two consoles arrive.
lilbroRx  +   1119d ago
Whether or not a game runs at 1080p 60fps is all entirely up to the developer. Its a matter of resource limits.

You will never see all games 1080 60fps because no matter how much you can do with a game at 1080p 60fps, you can do twice at much at 30 and even more at a lower resolution.

If its not 30fps, you can be guaranteed that its not doing all the console can do.
Qrphe  +   1119d ago
That's why I said 1080p 60fps with good effects. I do not doubt the system is more powerful than the PS360, but to expect it to have games doing something far beyond what the others systems have done is silly, especially since we already have a good idea of games running on it.
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ElectricKaibutsu  +   1119d ago
Some people read this article and thought it was positive regarding the Wii U, I saw it as negative myself. I don't care though. I knew what I was getting into when I bought the Wii U; same with the Wii. I'm planning on picking up a PS4 for the multiplats the Wii U won't be getting.
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1upgamer99  +   1119d ago
The Last of Us used all the PS3 had to offer in terms of power, the Clock speed on Wii U is not as fast as it could be, BUT the newer CPU/GPU is much faster on its feet than past gen. Disagree all you want. IT IS A FACT. The Wii U is more powerful than PS3 PERIOD. I would guess by at least 30-40 %. Guess what that is allot more power than PS3. Xbox360 has some really nice looking games, as you can see on PORTS Xbox shines, PS3 lacks. The developers really do not take the time on the PS3 to make them look or play better. So really POWER means nothing, it is up to DEVELOPERS to utilize the full potential of the Console...Clearly PS3 wins hands down the POWER of last gen...
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wiiulee  +   1119d ago
why pay attention to haters...wiiu is a fantastic next generation system....easy points does it do better graphics then the current generation..yes...does it have better memory..yes...does it have controls and interactivity that they do not have yes...does it have miiverse and tvii new elements to other words next generation innovation at its best...nintendo doesnt count on better pixels alone...and compare to the wii its previous consoles this one is miles ahead..enough said
andshesays  +   1119d ago
everyone keeps saying the wiiu is fantastic.. but theres nothing new on it... oh great bayonetta 2.... pikmin 3 whoopee .... is it still alive?
Phil32  +   1119d ago
"There's nothing new on the Wii U except games that are new that don't prove my point. Excuse me while I play FPS #3012 and sports title #7030 on the new consoles and the current gen consoles because those are definitely something 'new.'"

That's what I took your post as.
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younghavok  +   1118d ago
so what does that say about umm... every other console? Sequels are pretty much the only thing coming out these days. At least Bayo is only on its 2nd go round and pikmin on 3. Zombi U is somewhat new.
MsmackyM  +   1119d ago
With development cost on the rise, and companies like THQ possible going under.If the WiiU sales continue to be strong, many companies could see the WiiU as being less risky to develope for depending on how powerful Sony and Microsoft make their consoles. A good example is the 3ds and Vita, the Vita hands down is the more powerful system, but who is developing for it. With increased power comes increased cost of development.
younghavok  +   1118d ago
maybe im mistaken but wasnt there a story done on this story already?
exfatal  +   1118d ago
the Wii U is affordable and a great system with untapped potential, even if the next gen do surpass the specs by a huge gap like the sony/360 fan boys say. Im not willing to spend 600$ on a system when i could just get a steambox which is basically turning out o be a small powerhouse computer for the living room lol. consoles should still be cheaper then gaming computers, and the way you fanboys be going off with this supposedly next gen systems, its going be a crappy expensive alienware.
Sony/360 doesn't have enough exclusive to sell a 600+ system just cause i can see the individual eyelashes on my Cod character.

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