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Submitted by Erimgard 1124d ago | opinion piece

Pokémon X and Y Seem Rushed, Need More Polish

GenGAME writes: Pokémon has finally made the jump from the 2D realm of sprites to a fully 3D (in every sense of the word, given the stereoscopic functions of the 3DS) world. Is the dimensional upgrade the right move for the Pokémon franchise?

That depends on if it’s done right. The change gives Pokémon the ability to do new things, but Game Freak has to make sure they don’t rush the sixth generation and release an underachieving game experience. (3DS, Dev, Mobile, Pokemon, Pokemon X and Y)

disturbing_flame  +   1124d ago
Rushed ? maybe not, maybe the game has just been developped for the DS and has been ported to 3DS
Erimgard  +   1124d ago
That goes against what the developers have said.
Trunkz Jr  +   1124d ago
How does it lack polish or even seen as a port? If they make it like any Pokemon game, it's going to be huge and have tons of content, you can't make it look like Vita, have 3D and have hundreds of PKMN with levels and towns.
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Tei777  +   1123d ago
lol, why do I see this sentiment so often. People need to stop pretending that actual effort is put into these pokemon games and that their presentation shortfalls are a result of technical limitation. Yes, there are hundreds of pokemon to model and animate but pokemon are not detailed characters, nor is there movement highly realistic.

Look at Monster hunter freedom unite on the psp. It has 80 monster in it and every single one of them is many times more complex than even the most ambitious pokemon, boasting fluid animations and detailed texture maps. Alongside this they have their own AI and Behaviour. We're talking about a game on the PSP!

The truth is nintendo has never and probably never will give the pokemon games the budget they deserve and Gamefreak will probably never set their ambitions higher then the absolute minimal.
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TruthbeTold  +   1124d ago
If anything was perhaps rushed, then it would be the assets that they used for the incomplete build of the game used for the trailer.

The game doesn't release until October. That's over 8 months of finishing and polishing time before production starts. I don't see what the issue is here...
KingWilly105  +   1124d ago
I don't think it's fair to say the game is unpolished yet; the game isn't out yet, it's in the process of being polished right now.
zerocrossing  +   1124d ago
Yeah the last 10% of game design is polish, best not judge the graphical aspects of it till closer to release.
Blastoise  +   1124d ago
True. They've got the best part of a year to get this game finished
Mainsqueeze  +   1124d ago
Yeah i honestly don't see how you can call this game rushed yet when we have literally only seen a 2 min trailer and its still got almost a year more of dev time.
overrated44  +   1124d ago
So based on this article it should be assumed that the author has already played the game, which is impossible. Speculation post, I'll pass.
Erimgard  +   1124d ago
The article is about graphics. Which can be seen in the trailers.
Hicken  +   1124d ago
Isn't it STILL too early?
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   1124d ago
There is plenty of time for them to polish up the graphics. To say a game seems rushed and needs more polish 9 months before it's even out is ridiculous. I mean, what do you expect they'll being doing from now to release? Twiddling their thumbs?
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khowat  +   1124d ago
Yeah, I see where the author is coming from but then again the Pokemon series JUST got 3D graphics. Of course it doens't make effective use of the 3ds's capabilities but then again it's Pokemon, graphics aren't and never will be what makes it great. Black and white 2 which was pretty much black and white was the 4th highest selling game of 2012 right behind black ops 2 and Halo 4. I have very few doubts that this pokemon game could do any worse that 6 million copies...
GlaceEx  +   1124d ago
it does take advantage of the 3ds's full capabilities just not yet... on the official pokemon website it even says that on the pokemon x an y page at the bottom... and they increased the graphics abit with B2W2, but they were on the same system so it had hard to change the graphics more... and i am sure pokemon x and y will be the best selling games of the year... i know people who hated every generation of pokemon after the originals who want these games and some people who have hated pokemon in general who want them...
BlackWolf  +   1124d ago
I don't know... It's too early to judge it. I thinks the graphics level, in comparison to Pokedex 3D and MD 3DS, is because the Pokemon RPG system needs to play in real time (loading time-wise). Again, it's still in development, so there's still room for improvements, but it doesn't look rushed to me.
MattyG  +   1124d ago
Can you really make such a bold claim when we've only seen a minute and a half of the game AND it isn't being viewed on the 3DS screen? Everyone knows portable games look worse when not viewed on their native device.
A7XEric  +   1124d ago
I think you're just making excuses. How come these types of articles weren't posted for mario 3d land, kingdom hearts, or hell even for Pokedex 3D? Because those games looked generally great even in screenshots, especially Pokedex which just shits all over this game graphically

But seriously just look at the screenshot at the top of the article on the site. It really does look like a 3D DS game.

I'm stoked for this game and buying it regardless, but don't be blinded by fanboyism or stupidity. The game looks like ass right now (though not so much in battles) and hopefully it gets polished before release.
MattyG  +   1124d ago
I'm not being blinded by fanboyism or stupidity. I'm just saying that generally portable games look worse when viewed (generally, maybe not in this case, we can't be sure yet). And I'm not saying it's a fantastic looking game, I'm just saying lets wait until either a) we've seen more that a minute of gameplay or b) we can actually see what it looks like on a 3DS.
GlaceEx  +   1124d ago
Well... weren't the images for those games released within 3 months of the games release? well... we have 9 MONTHS before these come out and if you look on the official pokemon website at the bottom of the pokemon x and y page it says the images shown in the trailer are not the final game images. So don't judge it like the writer of this article who obviously doesn't read and just assumes things about everything they see. And actually i disagree with your last statement they look good for the PROTOTYPE for the game...
A7XEric  +   1124d ago
@Glace I'll say this. It looks amazing for handheld Pokemon game standards since everything else has been 2d sprite based or with only minor 3d elements.

As just a 3DS game I don't see how in the world you could think the trailer/screenshots look remotely in the same ball park as even early screens for Mario 3D Land, Revelations, Monster Hunter, Luigi's Mansion, Kingdom Hearts, etc.

I love Pokemon and I just pre-ordered my copy of X today, but lets be objective here. What we saw in the trailer/screens isn't graphically impressive and I think we should all admit it. But that's not to say we can't be optimistic. We don't know what build this first bit of media was taken from and should hope that it was from an old build or that the game will get its fair share of polish over the next couple months.

9 months also isn't long at all in terms of game development. Within 4-6 months of release most games are content complete and the last couple of months are left to bug squashing and general polishing of areas. You aren't going to see an entirely revamped engine in that period of time. We might see the framerate get more solid in the final version, but I'm not expecting any huge changes in the game's geometry and character models in that period of time unless of course these videos were from a very old build of the game.
Riderz1337  +   1124d ago
Isn't it coming out in October? I think they have plenty of time to polish the game.
CRASHBASHUK  +   1124d ago
hmm how come in the bottom right on the trailer it says "game footage not final"
Menchi  +   1124d ago
Umm... I would assume the near full year of dev time it still has is going to go into polish, balance, and refining the experience. I think rushing it, would be releasing it now...
TXIDarkAvenger  +   1124d ago
I know this game will be great, but seriously the character designs are ugly
Qrphe  +   1124d ago
Well there isn't much you can do about the graphics. It's going to be a game with a lot of content (how many pokemon again? how many animations per pokemon are they including in a cartridge? how many maps?) and open world games are the ones that struggle the most with looking good (this is the 3DS we're talking about anyway).
BUT, I do agree that something that is well within their control, art direction, is something they could definitely fix.
linkenski  +   1124d ago
How can you say a game is rushed if it isn't released yet?

Look, they're trying to keep it familiar and they thought Pokémon didn't need to be techincally advanced. It doesn't have to, because what everyone wants is a game that plays similar to all the other main pokemon games.
A7XEric  +   1124d ago
God you people are idiots or just didn't read the article. Maybe both.

The author speculates that the game may be rushed because when questioned on the games lack of graphical prowess an employee from The Pokemon Company international said that the game is still in the early stages, despite the game's release only being 9 months away.
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TenkoTAiLS  +   1124d ago
So basically they have released a short video.. and a couple screens and somehow people are able to tell its totally unpolished and rushed..there's still 9 months till release. But yeah lets totally call it right now >.<
Distasteful  +   1124d ago
No it's not just the video at all. There's other things to it. I can't say much because the game isn't out, and no this isn't judging the game it's my opinions on the Pokemon series itself. I dislike that they keep making MORE NEW Pokemon, rather than just going along with what I thought they would do (make 2 more games like HeartGold and SoulSilver). Unfortunately they didn't do that, instead they went with Black and White, and so on. I honestly would have rather liked having old Pokemon in a new version that is playable on DS/3DS. Well that is just my opinion, I just wanted to put that out there rather than just keeping this to myself forever. The new game itself looks pretty cool though, I will buy it when it comes out.
Deku-Johnny  +   1124d ago
The games aren't out for 9 months. If a woman can form an entire human being in that time I'm sure Gamefreak can sort out any problems with X & Y.
fireplace  +   1123d ago
I'm polish, what do you need?

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