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Submitted by knifefight 618d ago | opinion piece

Kamiya's Replies To Kotaku Cross The Line

Hindman of Game Revolution writes:

Imagine it another way. "Women" is by no means an offensive word, right? But acknowledge that in this world, men and women probably say, approximately, an equal amount of completely inane bull. Right? Right. So now imagine that several times in a row, females ask you, a male, a string of stupid questions. Is it okay for you to respond with "No! F*** off! Gah, damn stupid women!"? Hell no it isn't. That's a jerk response, right there, because even though it might not necessarily be true, and even though you might not have ill feelings towards all women, it looks like the reason for your dismissal of the question is the fact that it's being asked by a woman. (Culture, Hideki Kamiya, Industry, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

StifflerK  +   619d ago
I have no respect for flame baiting sensationalist sites like Kotaku, and it's good when devs make an example of them.

Kamiya, he's a good game designer, but I can't say I have much respect for him as a person. It's not just this incident - going off most of his comments and interviews I've read over the past few years, he really seems like a bit of a jerk.

Still, he makes good games....
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rainslacker  +   618d ago
The best thing he could have done was to release an official statement and leave it at that. He could have put his own personal views into it and allowed the community to discuss it for him. It would have served his purpose much better than carrying on a discussion on twitter...quite possibly the worst place to try and push your views.
MikeMyers  +   618d ago
Am I the only one who really doesn't care at all about this feud? I'm interested in the final product, not the bantering that goes on in interviews, tweets and so forth. We've seen it before and we will see it again but it's just the games I care about and I make my decisions purely based on that.

But it seems some people want to get involved more so than others. We'll see the petition signs up soon enough telling people not to support the company/person or don't buy the game. Ridiculous. This is like boycotting Mel Gibson movies because he acts like an idiot outside of acting. Who the **** cares. I'm sure there's people right now digging through his garbage outside in the back alley looking for anything that's breaking news!
rainslacker  +   618d ago
The feud itself doesn't concern me at all. I haven't really followed it other than a couple articles I saw on it.

The lack of respect by the media towards developers in general does concern me. Which is why I said if he felt the need to respond it would have been better to do an official statement and leave it at that.
VileAndVicious  +   618d ago
True...he can be a bit if a jerk.
I still rember when he flew off the handle a few months ago because some fans had apparently been bothering him about Devil May Cry.. Lol it was funny but a bit immature...
Kamikaze135  +   619d ago
I would normally say this is pathetic, but Kotaku had it coming. They post a LOT of nonsense and they took a hit at the guy with the original headline that got him upset. We all know they are desperate for hits, but it's the lowest of the low when you're taking a hit at the sort of people who are the source of your income - exclusive interviews, early hands on for reviews, beta/alpha access, etc.

But with that said....he's kind of taking things too far.
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J86blum  +   618d ago
Everyone knows Kotaku is full of it but when you take time out of what your doing to attack it then clearly you are doing nothing worth much yourself. why pick on the kid everyone knows is full of it. clearly its a insecurity thing now.
Summons75  +   618d ago
No they don't. If anything he gained more respect for saying the things he said.
Blacktric  +   618d ago
I don't think the writer knew what the hell was he talking about anyway.

"But the point Kamiya's internet defenders are missing is this: He's using the term in a way that sounds like a man's foreignness is grounds for disregarding something he said."

Isn't that the point? They accused him of "not understanding" the PC platform and how it works. He replied back to them, calling them "foreigners" that don't understand why he does the things he does, which was completely fine. He knew Kotaku is a sh*tty sensationalist site along with everyone else that had two ounces of brain. He could've easily explained them why they are wrong in a calm and intelligent manner but that wouldn't have stopped Kotaku from dismissing it like they always do. This is the site that has editors that kept claiming they did good journalist work by publishing a fake article created by NeoGaf users to lure them. And they were the only one to fell for it except for one other third grade gaming news site that no one ever heard about.

Edit: Another thing from the original Kotaku article;

"Again, this statement (Kamiya not liking Cloud technology), while baffling to many in the Western world, is completely in line with the standard Japanese line of thinking. Japan is a country where CD rental is still a booming business despite that we live in a day and age where MP3 downloads are readily available."

All of this is just pointless. You don't write a whole article about a japanese developer not liking cloud tech or not being close to PC gaming or development. He never said; "I think Steambox is useless and going to fail.". He only stated that he doesn't have close ties to the PC scene thus can't provide any opinion regarding that. But Kotaku just had to write a whole article about it based on two of his tweets while trying to make him look like an ignorant guy who shouldn't be developing games.
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Pozzle  +   618d ago
Tbh, it looks like the author just wanted to use Kamiya's comments as a soapbox to talk about Japanese nationalism, xenophobia, and how he (as a foreigner) was treated during the Japanese tsunami. He hasn't really presented a new viewpoint, and has completely ignored Kotaku's similarly negative representation of foreigners (i.e. Japan).

Hell, just look at the articles under the "japan" tab on their site...

- "When You Can Rent Friends, You Are Never Forever Alone"
- "Hey Ladies, Want Long Legs? Go to a Japanese Arcade."
- "Human Butt Pillows Are Both Expensive and Creepy"
- "One Last Gasp of Cosplay Insanity"
- "In Japan, Dominos Has Kobe Beef Pizza"
- "The Guy Who Made Bayonetta Is Clueless About Valve and PC Gaming. That’s Common In Japan."

And those are just the ones posted this week alone. I couldn't be bothered searching for the articles about porn actresses, panty vending machines, and obscure hentai games. I mean, it's not like Japan has tens of thousands of years worth of rich and beautiful history, thousands of surrounding islands, multiple languages and dialects, different regions with different cultures, and over 100,000,000 citizens; all with individual personalities, looks, and opinions. Nope, it's all about cosplay, butt pillows and ladies with long legs.

God, is it any wonder Kamiya called Kotaku "stupid fucking foreigners"? His comments might have been unprofessional, but when douchey idiots who write about butt-pillows and Japanese legs attempt to "educate" non-Japanese people about your nation by using broad generalizations and your own quotes taken out of context, no wonder Kamiya got pissed off.
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GenoZStriker  +   618d ago
Twitter serious business since Twitter.
PooEgg  +   618d ago
If you are a murderer and someone murders you, you deserved it. If you are a thief and someone steals from you, you deserved it. If you are Kotaku and your articles often cross the line... well you see where I am going with this. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
Deadpool616  +   618d ago
When did two wrongs start making a right? Doing the same thing as the person who wrongs you doesn't make you any better, it just makes you no different then they are. There are better ways to go about doing things.
PooEgg  +   617d ago
An eye for an eye is the other side of that coin, and it is the side I much prefer.

We live in a world where people think it is okay to go around acting like scumbags, because they think they are immune to consequences. I believe that Karma will give them what they deserve in the end. Perhaps the person you wronged will not be the person to pay you back, and you might not even recognize it as payback, but I do think we all get what we deserve in the end.

And so I stand by my earlier statement. ; )
Deadpool616  +   617d ago
Ahh, I get what you mean.

Well then, I think Kamiya should have left it to Karma instead of taking the direct approach. Kotaku is going to dig it's own grave eventually, if they don't change. Unfortunately, any attention Kotaku gets helps them get seen. I'm pretty sure that's all Kotaku wanted from this. Kamiya's replies may have helped them get the attention they were seeking.
PooEgg  +   616d ago
You make an excellent good point. I am sure that Kotaku is getting more attention from all this.

I really miss the days when I could actually trust video game news, these days we seem to have three types of news journalist.

1) The type who lick the boots of game developers/publishers for perks and exclusives.

2) The type that follows the sleazy tabloid approach in order to grab hits to their website

3) The only ones I still trust. Journalist who actually still play the games they are reviewing, from start to finish, and then give their honest opinion while trying to be open minded and respectful to those who might have a different opinion. (Sadly, this is they dying breed of journalist, Erik Kain from Forbes is the only example that comes to mind, though there are a handful of others)

In general video game journalism has become almost as bad as Hollywood journalism, which is really too bad.

I remember better days, since I am an old fart gamer. The sad part is that I think in the end bad journalism leads to bad video games, since many gamers trust that nonsense to make buying decisions, and that ends up leading to publishers/developers making more of the same crap, since it sold well. Makes me want to find a new hobby sometimes.
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