Push Square: "According to sales estimates released by the International Data Corporation earlier this week, the PlayStation 3 is now the second-best selling console of the generation. The research firm predicts that Sony surpassed the Xbox 360 in global shipment figures this December, putting the platform ahead of Microsoft’s machine for the first time since its release. But while the report has provided the fuel for a range of heated forum debates, does it really matter which system finishes on top?"
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And yes, it matters for next gen and is a victory for Sony with all they did to overcome the PS3's launch woes. PS3 beating 360 shows they turned what would have been a flop if it were anything but PlayStation into a success.
Launching a year later, less advertised, and *still* sold at a higher price yet it beat out the 360 that had so many advantages over it
The Playstation brand is an unstoppable juggernaut. A $600 price tag couldn't stop it, "no games" couldn't stop it, bad 3rd party ports couldn't stop it, "no cross game chat" couldn't stop it, "PS3 exclusives don't sell" couldn't stop it, "bad controller" couldn't stop it, doom articles couldn't stop it, lack of 3rd party support couldn't stop it,
Beware my PS3 brethren, the media will push the "sales don't matter" articles hard now. They saw this coming long ago and that's why they started pushing NPD numbers hard all of a sudden. They want you to believe that NPD is worldwide numbers.
Just watch the media and fans of the competition flip flop now.
"For the past six years it's been nothing but sales matters but now that the PS3 has beaten the Xbox NOW the media says it don't matter. Funny that."
They've done this for ages, look back when the PS3 first was released...first it was
"PS3 has no games"
When it did have games at launch but even now Sony give us more exclusives
The it was...
"Sony doesn't support gamers like Microsoft does"
Even though the PSN is free and Sony seem to be the only company left to still give a crap about core gamers.
Then it was...
"Sony's blu ray will die off...blu ray is going to be irrelevant in the future"
Now look at it, the crappy DVD system that MS uses holds some multiplatform games back, and no I don't mean performance wise I mean content wise, it's probably the reason we have so much DLC cut.
Next it was...
"The 360s graphics will get better and better...Sonys graphics at the minute are crap and won't be better"
<looks at Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3 and the last of Us> .....nope that hasn't happened
and so on
Point is every time Sony overcame the things MS fans bashed Sony for they changed the rules and made it into things which Sony hadn't done better it or achieved yet...
Sales
Money the company has and makes
Advertising
Stock market value
but I mean look at it...non of those things mean anything to gamers...no, sorry THEY SHOULDN'T mean anything to gamers yet because die hard MS fans like to keep changing the rules when Sony does one over them this is what it's turned into
Now that Sony has overtaken the 360, they are trying to say it doesn't matter.
See how this all works.
Of course the question now becomes: By how many consoles will Sony outsell the 360 when this generation ends? That's a question we've waited a long time to ask. I'd say 25 - 30 million when all is said and done. Oh, people will disagree ... say it won't happen, and then when it does: well you know the drill. And do you know what? I reckon when the 12 years is up, it could well be sitting above the Wii too.
P.S.
This is the media bias PS3 fans have been talking about...
And now it doesn't matter anymore... when it shouldn't have mattered in the first place. Sales shouldn't matter to gamers, but that hasn't stopped gamers from calling the PS3 a failure because it went from 1st to 3rd sales wise. Hasn't stopped gamers from saying "Oh how the mighty have fallen" which is not referring to Sony failing to deliver a quality gaming experience this gen because it has been the opposite of that, but is referring to sales.
This is obviously reminiscent of the "PS3 has no games" label early on in the life cycle. All of sudden it became "Exclusives don't matter" "Being exclusive doesn't mean it's a good game" "Mutiplats are still available on the console" "Multiplats are better than a majority of the exclusives anyway" "Most of the games that interest me are multiplats" etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...
What is even more amazing is how people are trying to down play it. Yes the PS3 was expected to dominate sales wise before it's release, but what was the expectation for it after its first year of release? I don't need to tell you the answer to that.
Just because all three companies were prosperous this gen does not mean Sony failed. When it is looking like you may push 90-100 million+ consoles when it's all said and done how can you say that's a failure? It's failure just because MS and Nintendo are looking to push 90-100 million as well when it's over? Lets be real here.
The Playstation brand is a juggernaut... But if all of those things you mentioned were handled better, the PS3 would've surpassed the 360 much earlier.
And because of such hard lessons learned, I'm interested in seeing the initial outcome of the next generation.
Honestly ask yourselves, did any of you anticipate Sony to be relegated to third place for so long? Did any of you imagine the 360 to put up such fierce competition?
For those many members on here that appear to have been embryos 6 years ago, let's recap: Sony had a huge monopoly on the industry. With the monumental sales of the PS1 and PS2, it was a behemoth that had the mighty Nintendo on the back foot. Microsoft's first entry did really well but it appeared to be clinging on the market and were it not for Halo CE, there might not even have been a 360.
Now I distinctly remember how, when the 360 came out, how everyone, including some staff at 360 magazine were discussing how the PS3 would completely obliterate the competition once it was released. The rest is history and here we are, on the cusp of the next generation where Sony has finally, supposedly, surpassed Microsoft.
So in defence of the author, it is a relevant question to be asked, simply by virtue of how late in the game this overtake has happened.
In my opinion, of course it still matters and Sony do deserve the success they have achieved by making good for their mistakes earlier this generation. But comparatively, this is a far cry from Sony's previous reigns contrary to what a lot of people on here are saying.
Okay there. Here we go..
@ septic
Here are some truthfull answer to you from my perspective
"Honestly ask yourselves, did any of you anticipate Sony to be relegated to third place for so long?"
No I didn't. I didn't even care until the x360 camp started BSing about PS3 failing but honestly I didn't think it would take this long. It seems the financial downturn has played some part in it though.
"Did any of you imagine the 360 to put up such fierce competition? "
No. I didn't think that after the hc-bombardment and public chest beating MS would make a 180 turn and go for casuals. From a business standpoint it's been a huge success. I don't see why hc-fans should rejoice for it though.
"how the PS3 would completely obliterate the competition once it was released"
There were articles like this? All I saw was "PS3 is doomed" cause of the pricetag. It had all the "bells and whistles" nobody wanted supposedly and BD was dead on arrival. You must not have been on N4G if you saw any pro ps3-articles in 2005-2007.
" this is a far cry from Sony's previous reigns contrary to what a lot of people on here are saying"
Who is saying? There will never ever be such a situation like it was with PS2. Do you know why? Because other manufacturers have stepped up their game. And all the while when x360 fans rejoice for "teh doomz" of PS3 due to the friggen lost marketshare Sony walks laughing all the way to the bank knowing they have sold over 100 million consoles 3rd time in a row in a few years.
Man I can't get over the comments of Strongman and Gribble and Nuka and Root etc. Some people on this site has been SO vocal about the things you guys said to be untrue I almost lost all hope in mankind. Where are you vega, maniacmayhem and buddies. Oh and Nukeitall and my favourite ben grimm. Where art though....? How crazy am I now? MMUAHAHAHAHAH!! cough! errr... sorry for that....XD
I just couldn't be bothered replying to each paragraph you wrote with bullet points, and nulling each with my opinion....
So i disagreed instead.
BTW, PS3 doesn't have CGC... Leverage when you need it.
Edit---oh and before people try to BS about Nintendo appealing to Casual this gen, Sony also did that last gen. Ps2 was 'the thing' to get. Like the Wii became.
Ah yeah that's a proper mature response right there.
Pretty much sums up the attitude and mentality of most people on this comments page.
The pure fanboy drivel on here is plain embarrassing. Some of these posts talking about 'Sony brethren' etc would make you think you came across some sort of cult.
really who gives a f*"k except for the usual zealots on here.
"Perhaps the combination of all those delicious PS3 exclusives and now this has somehow made them question the validity of their argument over the years, and now they're suddenly realising that it wasn't blind Sony fanboys that predicted this but reasonably minded Sony fans who just followed the facts, and looked beyond the NPD wall surrounding America"
i cant even believe that i am replying to this nonsense. just reading the first 10 comments is enough to make you shake your head in disbelief at the menatality and pathetic fanboyism that is displayed in the comments section day in day out.
no one from sony reads the posts on n4g, there is no chance that sony are going to hire you. you dont work for sony. you are not going to get any money from being part of the "ps3 brethren" (lmao how sad). you are going to get nothing...
so why the f*"k are you on talking rubbish and ready to die for a megacorp and its products???
Yeah I agree I mean when you look at it most of the PS2's best selling games was casual crap like , Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Mario Kart,Wii Sports resort, Just Dance etc
congrats sony and thanks a lot for the exclusives.
Common sense dictates either way this generation was technically a loss for sony. They went from behing the uncontested console with orginal xbox being nothing. Now they split their market share with another company. Thats bad news anyway you think of it.. even if they are doing good, they should be doing twice as good. Therefore anyway you look like it its been a victory for microsoft. They took half the market from sony.
Xbox 360 Launch in Japan/U.S. - Nov 20/21 2005
Xbox 360 Launch in Eu - Dec 2 2005
PS3 Launch in Japan/U.S. - Nov. 10/17 2006
PS3 Launch in Eu - Mar 23 2007
So that puts a 1 Year head start in Japan/U.S. for the 360, and a 1 year 4 month head start in Eu.
Any questions?
I never knew it was a race. There isnt a finish line... there is the customers and the bottom dollar.
Anyway you look at it, Sony as much as i prefer them... they got cocky this generation and let go of half of their fan base to their competitor. Microsofts customers should be sonys. Microsoft was well played this generation in terms of taking over.
Sonys arrogance put my on microsofts boat before i got a ps3 later down the road. Regaurdless of who came out first.. that really means nothing... like literally what does that matter, the years dont equal extra revenue do they? lol. There both probably going to come out with their next console around the same time. Is that the start of a new race for you? lol
This isnt a race to the top, its how much market share you can take. Microsoft gained a huge market share. Sony lost a lot of its market share.
Huh, don't remember reading any official statements.
I guess what ever anyone says goes.
So while you're all arguing and saying you're sob story's of how hard this generation has been and how Sony the multibillion dollar corporation was bullied by everyone.
Il be sat here with both my PS3 and My 360 Laughing.
@Omi
So what? If the PS3 is still behind a million, it still has more working systems and still sold at a much faster rate.
the fact that the PS3 outshipped 360 means that the PS3 was NEVER in second place, it always outsold the 360, the only thing that changed now is that PS3 caught up with 360 in total sales after launching a year later
now the ps3 overtaking 360 dont matter
LOL
A Three Feat Back to Back Grand Slam
That is why it matters.
Its not winning the game but how you played the game.
Sony has stayed true & steadfast despite all the negative stuff thrown at it.
I am sure that matters to a giant like Microsoft... a lot!
What matters more to M$ is losing two generations straight despite having more money.
It matters for the launch of the next PlayStation & the next Xbox.
This proves to the investors to bet and renew their faith on Sony.
This proves that Japan can withstand the pressure from the
Americans.
This proves that they by doing it themselves out of great responsibility, they had a winning strategy by planting new game IPs and ideas themselves to fill the gaming industry with variety and diversity; games of all types for everybody.
Thank you for all the negativity thrown at PlayStation because it woke people up to voice their opinions about the truth about the PS3 and 360.
It was a blessing in disguise for PlayStation. And it actually helped Sony by the overwhelming support of opinionated gamers rallying to support Sony worldwide. Gamers learned how to dig up the truth, facts and fight for the truth and their opinions.
I supposed M$ has learned its lessons not to buy out the media never again because it backfired on them.
But knowing M$, I expect a massive retaliation from their camp to jack up their numbers & so he vicious cycle continues.
So the "fight" is between Sony and MS
if anything being sore losers falls right in line with their behavior. I think what is lost on the more kind spirited and somewhat naive of our playstation brethren is that this was never a friendly competition for the good of the industry. This was an outright declaration of war where they intended to take no prisoners. For the good of gaming as a whole they are now on the losing side and soon to be on the trash heap of wannabe's of gaming history.
There seems to be more drama queens in gaming than gamers now. Hardcore use to mean skilled gamer now it is just brand loyalty.
The only reason why I can see this finally mattering is because you didn't want to be wrong.
The truth is the ps3 is at $250ish now it's going to sell a lot better. It's games from the past 6 years are $19! It is finally going to sell really good now. Many said it was a mistake to use the cell as a gpu. Luckily they fixed that with the rsx. We needed a price at or around ps2 launch. Not the price of laser disk that no one asked for hardly. Ps2 had a monopoly because they made a key componet of making a game cheap, disk price.
Then we had the cell problem. Every one had a ps3 game delayed while gears of war was coming out. Oh and the unreal engine, you know the engine that a lot of modders grew up using doesn't work on it to well. We saw a year and a half delay. Ps3 fans where put in a bad place then. So much was promised so much was not even dilivered. So many where told that yes the ps3 was way more powerful but programmers are lazy. Six years later we have games running at 15-20 fps that are harold as the great ps3 games. All except killzone where slow paced pick your own adventure games and killzone was even merged for a while so it moved slow.
The best game on ps3 was star hawk or some thing lol. I can not even remember it now. It was an actual game though which took skill. What was most annoying was story gamers where not really gamers otherwise they had a xbox360 for online play... Which arguably is the only real form of gaming in gaming now. If the cod franchise would have skipped the system it would have been neo geo status.
Looking back Sony just put to much hype out there. Kaz is right they did not have a focus. Monopolies tend to do this to companies. Sony silver bullet has always been their media formats. They also excelled in a few chips yet have very forward r&d. Just look at their full vr head set. What about their auto 3d round tv? Will cloud gaming give them an edge when they have to go up against nvidia?
This matters simply because we need to see the old Sony that gave us formats we all loved gamers and publishers.
Gamers where addicted to playing the games back then. Now they are addicted to social memes as if this was a spectator sport. Alot of what the naysayers was right and Sony should build a real plan to make all gamers happy not just their first party fans that mostly like story gaming. Pc gamers need to be in there along with arcade gamers. Skill is addictive. Not hype, that is more like a myth.
I think Sony has learned its lesson and I also think they should wait till they have another media win again. To the fans remember to learn from the lie. N64 fans did, rrod fans did. Just find your fun but it may not be everyone cup of tea. Thus it will not always be wildly successful.
These are all opinions though. The best way to test them is to invest in them!
Sony has done a terrific job at keeping the pirates at bay. Its a legitimate success driven by legitimate software & legitimate gamers unlike any other video game system before it like the Xbox 360. A first in video game innovation history marred by piracy.
It was not a flawless victory though and it is still a hard fought battle along with keeping up with M$, Nintendo and the global recession & some USB dongling out there. It caused Sony so much time, money & effort investing in Blu-ray, PS3 & PSN security measures, constant software & hardware updates & adjustments stripping the PS3 to the bare essentials.
But ultimately Sony has achieved their goal!
Sony has kept the whole PlayStation ecosystem in control. They reformed many pirates and frustrated many hackers. They gave hope to many publishers, developers & retailers that a decent anti-piracy in gaming can be done. Compelling EA & Ubisoft to make exclusive deals. They even made Gabe Newell eat his words and jump on the PS3 bandwagon with Steam along with Epic Games, Crytek and other PC developers.
With this legitimate success Sony has also laid the anti-piracy ground work for the next PlayStation console. Talk about long term planning.
Yet Sony & PS3 is still being ignorantly criticized in terms of sales figures without considering this important factor.
PS3 might not sell as fast or as many as the PS2 but this time its sales figures, its profit, its attach rate & its success is truly legitimate.
I lived in Third World South East Asia where in many generations, many gamers like me pirate games since the Family Computer, Mega Drive, Super Famicom, PSONe, PS2, GameCube, Xbox 360 to Wii.
But the arrival of PS3 changed all that.
All though we are a poor country but many gamers here actually bought legit games for PS3 & - the reason why PS3 has done so very well overall worldwide.
When it comes to quality and quantity of hardware & software and anti-piracy the PS3 is the true victor in every sense of the word.
PS @ DK2
huh? try to read my post again....
Can't wait for e3!!!
Sony has the best console 3 gens in a row! Not bad!
I think ps4 will be huge mainly because they know it has to be.
As for PS3 overtaking x360. Take that you Sony haters lol!
@StrongMan
100% agree with you guys.
If for nothing more than to show SONY that, while they took risks trying to innovate and be different, it ended up paying off. Even when things seemed pretty dark for them. Now just imagine, if it launched at a lower price, had better advertising for not only the system, but its top exclusives. I hope they learnt a lot this gen and apply at least some of it to their next system.
But, it also just matters that it sells. In an industry thats all about making money, that obviously has to happen. Its refreshing to see a big company take a risk and actually lose money in order to be original.
I'm sure it would have mattered if it was the other way around, right?
Hypocrisy at its finest.
And for the people saying that the Wii is the real winner, no one denied that. But in terms of second place, Sony won the fight.
This applies to most of you; you know who you are too.
@ kellymiester
There will be none of that Wii stuff up here. Sony has to be on top. Alllllllllllllllllllllways!!!!
You ain't selling one Wii if it started off at $600
In the UK when the wii launched it was around £170 that's dirt cheap for a new console the PS3 launched at £425 thats almost 3 times the price, you also have to take into consideration that without the Wiimote and it's obvious mass appeal to casuals you could argue that the wii would have flopped because realistically nintendo's I mean look at the Wii's best selling games for christ sake
and look at the ps3's best selling games for christs sake. call of duty games. whats your point?
Hilarious.
Thats the best you could come up with ? Its a fact that MOST of the Wii's best selling games is casual crap, I se allot of people calling COD a casual game, if that's so then what on earth do you call MOST wii games ? you can't compare the two,
I mean at least the people that play COD, go on to play other games or at the very least play cod daily, do you honestly think the 85 year old senior in the retirement home ever picked up a wii mote again ?
In fact look who plays on those games these people aren't gamers they never play these games again, theres a reason why despite the huge sales figures of those games and the Install base surprisingly the Wii has the lowest attach rate of any console this gen, in fact according to a Nielsen figure it's also the LEAST used console this gen. When you look at the main demographic(non gamers) on the console it comes to no surprise
They gave real competition to Sony this gen, something they haven't had in quite a while. It certainly affected PS3 sales, and that can't be denied. Sony stayed true to what they always have, and for that they are now being rewarded...so to speak.
I don't know about this particular website or writer, as I am not familiar with them, but IGN is definitely one of them.
i kid i kid
don't bubble me down lol
You have to give Sony props for the cell "idea". With out the cell faiiling along with the larrabee gpgpu systems would not be where they are. CPU hives never took off out side of system on chip designs ethier.
The Xbox was a matter of choosing the right specs for the price, releasing early enough for your price to fall when developers needed those 5 million copy sales. Pleasing the ps3 fanbased was a real gamble. We never got the super compiler from IBM but the tools did get better.
Now why would this matter? Sony already has gpgpu code ready technicly. Now they just have to choose the right price and platform for developers.
Also do you see a pattern forming. You win a few gens then you fall and you have to continue making games for an old following.
It would be a trophy tho not an achievement, why would MS get an achievement for losing there foot hold lol
All these years SONY has been bashed about being in last place, even though 360 had a year out before PS3. And now that its doing better than the 360 sites like IGN and this one want to make it seem like it doesn't matter what place its in....
just saw that you wrote it...
Also,there's something to be said about this site since its the same dumb site that wrote Sony should make LESS EXCLUSIVES...
Edit : Just saw that you actually wrote the article..
I do think some people are taking it to extremes on the Sony side. But honestly I understand where they're coming from.
When next gen rolls around, this same kind of crap is going to happen all over again. Is this same media, and naysayers in forums, going to accept articles such as this one to prove that SALES DO NOT MATTER AND NEVER HAVE!
I just hope one day we would know how many repeat sales were generated due to the RROD saga, that would change the estimate sales true numbers drastically.
2005-2008:It's all about the exclusives.
2008-2012:It's all about the sales
2013-...:Ummm we pay to play on shitty p2p servers so we automatically win.
And yes it does cuz year in year out you would hear the PS3 will never surpass the sexbox306 bla bla....
The fact is the 360 exploded out of the gates this gen surprising evetyone but its stamina is finally beginning to dwindle. I think that is down to a fundamental shift of MS priorities leading to a disappointing lack of titles. Sure add all the multi media stuff but it is a game console. I rarely use it these days, unless I want to play L4D, and for a while it deserved its lead. It makes me laugh to remember the 'PS3 haz noes gamez' articles.
Another fact remains that a lot of 'gamers' involved in this fanboy nonsense are 12, 13 and 14 year olds, some of whom were still womb locked when the PS2 released which makes me feel ancient. They started with the 360 and the PS3, their underdeveloped brains deciding that they must take sides as they can't comprehend anything else. I doubt they've heard the phrase 'slow and steady wins the race'. I expect there are many on here on both sides. You can spot them easily enough.
2 last thoughts.
Hasn't China granted permission for PS3's to be sold there?
Bear in mind as well, there are still 4 years left on the PS3's cycle.
" But tell me why it matters now? "
you really, do not know?
" it's too late in the game for it to really matter. If you and however many Sony fans feel differently, that's perfectly fine, but to me this is the way I feel."
the fact that you stated Its too late in the game for it, really does show a problem that Microsoft has, and that is the way of how they look at the xbox as a platform. This is not to say that xbox is a poor platform at all, that is nothing of the sort. What im talking about, is when the next xbox comes out. will the console install base keep the xbox360 platform as a viable "core platform" for games that matter to the core gamer?
Or will the install base of core gamer's just Move over to the next big thing of Xbox? That's the problem.
The fact that you stated it's too late kinda put's it in perspective. Its not about who reaches the Most first it's about does your customer keep support for more than just one of your product's at a time.
This is not saying your or my family's xbox360 will be useless or anything of that sort when the next xbox gets released. Not anything of that Sort. What it is about is the install customer base for the xbox platform as a whole and a question from us to Microsoft. What will Microsoft's Answer be. If we do not care why would Microsoft?
Both Nintendo and Sony both have already A: that Question Multiple times, but microsoft has yet to Answer this very Question, And I think Microsoft is dreading the result's of that Question, by Microsoft's own install base!.
Does the Microsoft core xbox base, will they support two microsoft core machines at the same time on the Market.
I mean lets ask this question Halo is the largest 1st party developed iP for Microsoft, we know the new xbox will release in the next year or two, what happens will the next Halo be a spin off for the xbox360, while the next exclusive Halo go to the next Xbox? Or would they get the same one. for both platforms.
Man...that was a crazy format war.
Also, more sales equals a bigger online community for online games which also greatly influences your experience.
So you should be caring about sales.
But look at all the disagrees. The hivemind of N4G once again proves it's completely out of touch with reality.
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You 360 people so silly and salty.
But I agree, the average opinion of Sony and PS3 from the general public this generation is such a major delusion due to the Microsoft marketing machine ("oooooh exclusive DLC!!!!" et cetera), that it really just blows my mind. It's like, do people really understand the implications of what they say, or do they just say it?
Thumbs up to Sony for smashing through that barrier, but there's still a lot of work to be done for bulls**t mainstream perception.
I'm taking my PS3 to bed with me tonight baby! Playstation is back on top!
It's a powerful tool made more so when the gaming media is on your side rubbernecking for you constantly.
I don't believe in the 'MS pays for reviews' conspiracy though (it's dumb). I do believe however that the gaming media has forgotten about the importance of being impartial. It saw how riled up the first drooling, vile, broken fanboys got and said 'we should take sides'.
And in their naivete people bought into it and now the gaming media is so far over the line they wouldn't look 'journalism' in the eye if it stood in front of them.
Sadly, this indicative of all forms of media over the last 10 years. It's dumbed down, vulturistic, fearmongering, designed to force the most violent opinion from you so they can create more stories.
Remember the Mass Effect 3 ending controversy? Of course you do. Some Mass Effect fans disliked the ending. The gaming media picked up on this and couldn't wait to stoke the fire. They handpicked comments from gamers and complained that we were 'entitled' despite the fact we were the consumer. This then led to more outrage directed at these sites. They must of been rubbing their hands together laughing at us.
But the fanboys on both sides need to jump off a bridge. This doesn't harm the Xbox in any way so there is no need for fanboys to be here berating the Playstation.
If you count making a profit on each console, and selling a financially successful product, then the PS3 is still at the starting gate.
And if you fall for Sony's fuzzy math of channel stuffing and combining PS2 and PS3 shipments, you're stupid and you deserve to be lied to.
The amount of articles on it suggest it does. As long as the quality of games keeps improving (which they are), I'm sure PS3 will continue to do well.
Trying to explain how Sony let the core slim naturally discontinue itself and overstock/ship the newer ps3 models.
Think about it.
There has been more bundle themed ps3's for the new super slim...then any ps3 model before it.
This new model actually turns a profit and saturating the market with them is key to going into the next generation with the ps3 able to become a profitable system.
I'm not expecting anyone to understand these facts....but if MSFT released a new slimmer model to take place of the S model...they'd overstock and then ANOTHER article would be made...pointless.
You guys enjoy these circles and happiness because companies are being companies. I'll go back to playing DMC
In Sony's 6th fiscal year they had sold 87 million consoles. Currently is said to have sold between 74-77 million consoles...thus 10 million behind. Sony still hasn't finished out their 6th fiscal year yet either, so that number may increase. That is not half the market share. It is 11-14% less than they had before.
Sony is still on track to sell over 100 million PS3 consoles, and will likely sell more than the PS2 throughout it's entire lifetime as they become cheaper. This is particularly true if the PS4 isn't as significant a leap as last gen was, which is pretty much what everyone is agreeing on will be the case.
Liar! No one's Playing DMC!
Just kidding :)
If competition was of any true value to gaming we would have seen more in the way of diversity and creativity. Instead we largely got COD clones, content being taken out of games and sold in addition, "given" away as incentive for day-one sales, and content exclusive to one platform. Meanwhile game features were being removed and genres were being dropped.
So now all of a sudden these things are irrelevant when you are eating your words.
What happen to all the MASSIVE DAMAGE and giant crab jokes? Maybe you should be asking yourself did any of that matter once we fast forward a few years. lol
which was actually 5.0 million + ..by the time ps3 was lauched.. so i have to give credit to sony they did come back from alot of negitive press, doom and gloom articles, psn went down and etc... so in hindsight i think it does matters , they achieved what many thought wasnt going to be possible.
being a owner of both consoles , i give sony 2 thumbs up... perhaps one day when then this gen of consoles comes to a closes maybe the ps3 will be siting on top of mountain with fellow brethren ps1 and ps2...
Wii = 90+ Mil
PS3 = 70+ Mil
X360 = 70+ Mil
total = 230 Mil+ combined sales in 7 years and still counting.
Now take a look at last gen
Ps2 = 155Mil in 12 years!!!
NGC = 22Mil in 5 years
Xbox = 25Mil in 5 years
combined = 202 Mil
Now here's a question I think you all know the answer to which of this gen's consoles do you think will still be around for another 5 or 6 years?
Posted on Friday 21st Sep 2012 at 6:47 PM UTC
"Sony promises 'incredible PS3 lineup over next 2-3 years'
SCEA's John Koller assures of strong future for its home console.
Calls for next-gen hardware are getting louder, but Sony assures PS3 owners that their old faithful has plenty more life left in it.
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now Microsoft
June 8, 2012
Microsoft exec: Xbox 360 has ‘a lot more than two years’ left
"Right now the Xbox 360 is really healthy and it's doing incredibly well," he concluded. "I think the 360 has a lot more than two years [left]. It has legs for a long time."
http://www.oxm.co.uk/42636/...
Now taking both PR which companies 1st party efforts are up for the task? will microsofts or Sony's 1st party effort for the xbox360 and the ps3 for exsclusives be for their old platform really be there even when a new system gets released?
Sony has answered this, microsoft has not, sure multi-plats are good thing an all but what about 1st party? for your older platforms?
What a normal person sees when looking at those numbers is:
Nintendo going from 22million - 90million
Xbox going from 25million - 70million
sony going from 155million - 70million
Dont get me wrong Sony has been very successful this gen, and has had awesome games. but if u just look at numbers xbox gained 45million, nintendo gained 68million and sony lost around 85million.All up its very even this gen which is good for everyone. looking forward to next gen :)
Now, will the PS3 reach the sales of it's older brother before it ceases, which is 6 more years? Probably not.... But, it won't remain at 70+ million neither. Now that we've established, here comes the interesting question:
HOW MUCH MARKET SHARE IS SONY REALLY LOSING?
It will come back around full circle.
It should be, "What the hell took them so long."
I keep hearing about all these great ps3 exclusive and it's mind boggling that people are still buying other consoles other than it.
The problem is, simply enough, Sony. Their marketing department, for the most part, sucks.
If Sony had MS's marketing machine...game over.
Some how PS3 magically gained and surpassed the almost 4 million console lead MSFT had just 9 months ago? LOL what! did the 360 pratical stop selling all year LMAO. As if this one firm now negates the whole lot of the rest of data firms.
The 360 has been selling close to either side of a million for the last few months and a half a million before the hoidays in NA alone. 360 had a temp drop in price a firm guessing ps3 passed the 360 due to thinking the super slim did well is almost comical.
Sony would have said something despite the ruse of being humble as an excuse to hide the real numbers like they do sometimes when they do better than expected after they started hiding their figures.
There's no mystery. PS3 hit 70 million a year faster than 360 did. Using what I like to call "math", that means PS3 sells more. Passing 360 was inevitable.
Perhaps the world will be a better place, if a slap-to-the-face manages to cure a few fanboys of their mania. The less stupid people, the better, assuming they can crawl of their hole and move on, without trolling honest people again.
I like to believe a few of them... maybe one or two.. will smarten up, just a little. The REALLY.. erm.. devoted ones will poke their heads out, just one more time, to make themselves look extra dumb though.