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Submitted by searchbuzz 589d ago | opinion piece

Is is too Early for the Playstation 4 and Xbox 720?

The gaming industry moves fast. The Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 original style consoles are old to us gamers now. It’s all about the new style 250GB Xbox 360, and the super slim Playstation 3. However it would seem that the next generation of these consoles will be with us as late as 2014. But is this too early? (Next-Gen, PS3, Xbox 360)

Neonridr  +   589d ago
While I still am impressed time and time again with what developers are able to accomplish with the aging tech of the Xbox 360 and PS3, I do feel it's time for an upgrade.

While the Wii U introduced some new and exciting features, People are still wanting that extra boost in power to be able to play grander games. It's not so much that the graphics will be that much better, although native 1080p/60fps would be much appreciated. But the increase in power will allow for larger scale games with bigger environments, more physics being handled and better effects and lighting.

However, since the Wii U does not double or triple the power of the existing consoles, an argument can be made by the manufacturers that there is no real rush to get the next gen machines out. Since the games that the 360 and PS3 will put out can be comparable to what the Wii U will be able to handle, They can make the argument that now is not the time.

I am still sure we will see at least one of the consoles by early 2014 at the latest. More likely 2013 holiday season.
searchbuzz  +   589d ago
I agree that FPS is important, and games with larger and open landscapes would work well, but look at Red Dead Redemption.
"Red Dead Redemption."

It's easy to be impressed with something when you don't what is actually possible.

What would Red Dead Redemption look like with 4gb ram and a new gpu/cpu? I can't wait to see next gen batman!
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morkendo23  +   589d ago
I'm begining to see stupid arse articles we read before back for more hits but with similer title .
Picture_Dancer  +   589d ago
"the Wii U introduced some new and exciting features" O_o what features?
Neonridr  +   589d ago
are you kidding me? The gamepad gives us new ways to play games. The gamepad gives us the ability to play the game without the need for the TV. If you don't think being able to go lie down on your bed and continue playing your console game (not a handheld game) isn't exciting, then I guess we will agree to disagree. The fact that my wife can watch TV but I can continue playing my game is an amazing feature. The Miiverse also created a sort of twitter like universe where people can comment and post messages on the fly to a community board. In a world driven by social media I guarantee you will see a feature like this on both the next Xbox and PS. And Nintendo TVii creates an amazing experience for people who like to watch sports. I have been using it while I have been watching Basketball and Football games, and the gamepad screen offers a great secondary to the main TV. It has updated stats on the fly, shows you information about current plays and drives, and also lets you comment and post messages in a group chat area. Not to mention it's pretty cool that I can control my cable box and TV with my Nintendo gamepad.

That's just my opinion however, and if you don't see the benefit in anything I have mentioned, then so be it.
zebramocha  +   588d ago
@neon picture is some what right even though he/she is trolling,the wii was suppose to be a game changer but the tech wasn't what people expected,Sony those have home that can and does have some of the feature as miiverse but is not seamlessly integrated with the ps3.
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Kingofwiiu  +   589d ago
I agree with that now for wiiu. But I think the Wiiu is going to demonstrate Mind blowing graphics at some stage. Once developers take full advantage of disk storage and the graphic capabilities. You're gunna see Zelda tech demo graphics with a Giant world.
Neonridr  +   589d ago
Oh we all know the graphics are only going to get better for the Wii U as the developers learn the ins and outs of the system. I laugh at anyone who disagrees with that fact and will point them to Xbox 360 launch games with the super realistic graphics of titles like NBA2K6 or Peter Jackson's King Kong. Amazing how far games have come on the Xbox 360 in 7 years.

Could you imagine putting up an Xbox 360 launch title like Gun against a Wii U launch game like Assassin's Creed 3?

Give the Wii U some time and we know it will only get better. It'll just depend on how significantly more powerful the other two next-gen machines will be to determine if the Wii U will hold up. But I think with the Nintendo 1st party titles finally appearing in HD, we should be in for a real treat regardless.
Kingofwiiu  +   589d ago
@Your reply below.

The way I see it is this , It's very Simple.
Nintendo isn't interested in Pushing tech TOOO far at the expense of their own company Cough Ps3 Cough. They probably think Sony are retarded for selling the PS3 at a $200 loss , that's just not plausable for Nintendo.

It looks like Nintendo is thinking ''as long as we can demonstrate a clear leap in graphics albeit a smaller one than competition and add in some innovative new ways to play , And make it as good as possible without losing money on the device.

Rge 3DS for example demonstrates a clear graphical leap over the PSP and is 3D , has two screens , Gyroscope , AR etc.

Resident evil on 3DS destorys the PsP's graphics , but not quite as much as the vita destroys the PSP' graphics.

The wiiu is to ps3 what the 3S is to PSP. A clear generation ahead.
The_Infected  +   588d ago
I pretty much agree with you but these stupid articles asking "is it to early for next gen consoles" no it's just the right time IMO. It's been what 7 years? I hope they future proof next gen far more than they did this gen.

I'd say the cloud will start helping out. I hope they don't stream the entire game but instead just use the cloud to run the physics, animations, and etc. so we want notice latency because technically we would still be running the game locally. If that's possible to do that is.

Either way it's time for next gen. It's also time for every game to run at 1080p at 60fps. I hate 30fps that's why I play CoD honestly. Far Cry 3 is an amazing game but the low frame rate and screen tearing drive me crazy. All this want exist next gen. So all I can say is yea we're ready for next gen we've been ready for quite some time.
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NYC_Gamer  +   589d ago
It's time for new consoles PS3/360 have been on the market for over 6 years
searchbuzz  +   589d ago
But don't you see the point that the consoles we have include almost as good technology as Next gen will.
AO1JMM  +   589d ago
Hell no
coolmast3r  +   589d ago
are you rtrdd?
GribbleGrunger  +   589d ago
Perhaps the wording is a little awkward but in essence what Xtr3me is saying (and I'm assuming this is correct) is that next gen will not be as big a leap as many would think. If my assumption is correct and that indeed IS what he meant, then I'd have to agree.
JohnDread  +   589d ago
No, I disagree with that. It is pretty much impossible that the tech in the current consoles are almost as good as next-gen. Electronics evolved crazy fast and what probably has changed the most is the architecture of the hardware. See GPGPUs and such. Those things make the difference in power. And of course, the launch titles and also the titles in the whole first year after launch will very much look like 360 and PS3 games. That's a natural thing. I don't know if you remember, but there is a huge difference between a 2005 360 game and a 2012 360 game. I mean really huge. It took developers 6 years to max out the power in those things and the same will happen to next-gen. You'll laugh at Battlefield 3 or whatever you consider super good looking right now, when you see the Nextbox/PS4 games of 2016+.

And that is exactly why there needs to be next-gen right now. The current gen is just maxed out.
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searchbuzz  +   588d ago
GribbleGrunger --

Yep that is pretty much what I was trying to get across with this article.
ILive  +   589d ago
I wish people.will.stop.asking these questions. Wii to.wii u is next Gen for Nintendo. We will.see a leap.for next Gen consoles, and it will be significant. Perhaps not to PC gamers but definitely console only gamers. I have seen games played on thepc and I only wish current Gen systems could look the way those games look. The witcher 3 is a perfect example. The good news is that consoles will be able to better take advantage of their hardware than a PC would.

New consoles are needed and Assassins creed 3 is a perfect example of why. People who say last of us could argue otherwise forget that the game is using uncharted's engine; I don't think it will look that much better than uncharted. I don't know about Beyond because it looks freakin awesome.

We need new consoles for game play, graphics, and everything between.
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chestnut1122  +   589d ago
I rather have them released later these year ., maybe December., and give Ps3 and XBOX 360 their last year. Sony should focus on marketing their Vita 1st at the start of these Year., At around of that Time. (Dec 2013), People already have their budget to own 1 of these 2 powerful machines.
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The_KELRaTH  +   589d ago
I'm sure if we were still using Atari 2600's there'd still be the same "is it too early" blogs!
searchbuzz  +   589d ago
This was merely an opinion, and we are more than just a blog.
sway_z  +   589d ago
@Chestnut1122

Agreed PS4 for release Dec 2013...but IMO Sony shouldn't waste too much resources on Vita individually, but should instead market both PS3/Vita cross play functionality to counter the Wii U casual market.

With the PS4 looming and PS3 still relevant...I can't see how Sony can afford what you're suggesting.

Sadly, Vita missed the boat...Sony should have marketed the hell out of this powerful device day one, instead of this 'Damage Limitation' system they have in place. It's still too early to call the Vita's fate, but it stinks of PSP failures to capture significant third party support.

Many will probably disagree, but I always thought after PSP, Sony should have left the portable market and concentrated on making the PlayStation games catalogue available to as many devices as possible. Given that tablets/smart phones have now exceeded or at least on par with Vita technically....

Vita was very short sighted of Sony....
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Npugz7  +   589d ago
We need new consoles now!!!
searchbuzz  +   589d ago
Just realised I made a typo in the title. Sorry about that.
Yangus  +   589d ago
NO!
cyberninja  +   589d ago
Is is not too early.
psp2roundup  +   589d ago
The question is, are there enough paying buyers to support both AT A PROFIT? Otherwise they'll be the last consoles before we all migrate to cloud gaming in the short-term future... which I think I'd prefer anyway.
dirthurts  +   589d ago
Cloud gaming? Ewww...
KMCROC54  +   589d ago
Short & to the point NO it is not.
tigertron  +   589d ago
Xbox 360 - out since 2005
PS3 - out since 2006

So no, it isn't too early.

If the PS4 comes out at Christmas, the PS3 will be 7 years old, and when the next Xbox comes out at Christmas the 360 will be 8 years old. Assuming they do release at Christmas of course.
shinobi602  +   589d ago
No. It's been almost 8 years.

NO. No no no no no nooooooooo.
Picture_Dancer  +   589d ago
Personally, I would like to see new consoles at the end of 2013 or maybe even 2014 and costing 599$ or even 699$ but with some amazing power, 1080p 60fps with 4xaa graphics in 3D. I want "wow factor" just like when I first saw Gran Turismo 3 on PS2 or maybe even bigger.
Eyeco  +   589d ago
What kind of question is this ? when is the right time to release the PS4/720 then ? in 2014 when the 360/PS3 are almost 10 YEARS OLD, could you imagine if the 360 was released in 2010 or if the PS3 was released in 2008 ? this gen has gone on for far too long.

Yes the consoles are still capable of nice graphics (TLOU, MGSGZ), its not just about graphics it's about performance I mean the fact that most games this gen struggle with maintaining 30fps in basic HD justifies that, I mean the latter was supposed to be a standard for this gen
ShaunCameron  +   588d ago
But thanks to the bandwidth limitations of the HDTV's, 1080p ended up being the exception instead of the standard for most media including video games.
medman  +   589d ago
I feel it may be too early. I really hope whatever consoles are coming next will wow gamers, but I have my doubts. Let's be honest, both Sony and Microsoft stumbled badly out of the blocks with the PS3 and 360 respectively. Sony was overpriced and didn't have enough quality games, Microsoft's console was an overheating mess. Both these companies need to step it up significantly this time around. Unfortunately, in the current global economic downturn and with both these companies (particularly Sony) suffering some recent losses, can they really afford to go all out? If not, what will we gamers see? A marginal improvement on what's already currently available? I don't see anything on PC that makes me stop in my tracks and wonder why we don't have that available for consoles yet. I want much better AI next gen. Will these companies deliver a better gameplay experience, or simply slightly improved graphics and lighting? I expect alot, and I am hoping not to be disappointed. The Wii U does not impress me. I didn't expect it to. I'm hoping Sony and Microsoft don't end up in the same category.
ILive  +   589d ago
What do you people really want? For all games to be magnificent? Also, current economic crisis does not stop people from buying whatever they want, from cheap to expensive. There is no such thing as a perfect game and these developers really try to.balance things when making these games. Hardware will always have limitations, but the imagination never will. We need new consoles to give the imagination more room to spread. One could argue that the PC isn't as limited. There are factors to consider in that matter and I just don't feel like writing anymore.
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tiffac008  +   589d ago
My wallet may disagree but the gamer in me is saying, "Its the right time to release new consoles".
stefan771  +   588d ago
Yes
madjedi  +   588d ago
720 holiday this year and ps4 holiday 2014, thats not too early in the slightest.

As for people keep harping on it won't as big a jump from the ps2-ps3 okay fine, but at the same time it won't be a micro jump like the gamecube to the wii.

It's 7-8 years of graphics cards and cpu advancements with a very significant increase in the amount of available ram. Yes it wont have a $600 gpu in it, but it wont have a similar low end underclocked cheapass pos chip like the one nintendo put in the wiiu.

Which wasn't really a big talking point until the wiiu was ripped apart during a teardown and it's components documented.

About a next gen zelda game like the e3 trailer from 2-3 yrs ago, yes it looked sweet but you nintendo guys need to be a little more reasonable in regards to your expectations.

This is nintendo we are talking about here not ms or sony, they are known for pushing out beautifully detailed graphical games.

Nintendo makes highly stylised games, not realistic looking games typically, likely the best looking detailed game will be either metroid or zelda.

When nintendo does finally show actual game footage of a next gen mario, zelda you can't discuss it's graphics only the gameplay. Since nintendo fans always like to remind us only graphics whores care about the graphics.
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Indo  +   588d ago
I think we all ready and will get what we asked for soon. But with these PS3 exclusives coming out, i wouldnt mind waiting till an official announcement.
landog  +   588d ago
we needed new consoles 2 years ago or last year at the latest. far cry 3, skyrim, saints row the 3rd, dark souls, ac3, resident evil 6 and so many others all performed terribly and ran well below 30 frames for much of the game, exhibited tons of screen tearing and were riddled with jaggies and sub-hd resolutions!

its beyond time for new consoles, they cannot come out soon enough

heck we needed new consoles for battlefield 3, playing with only 11 other people on your team and the awful screen tears, the slowdown, the jaggies......personally, even though i bought it on 360 just to play with my little cousins(own it on pc day one) it was near unplayable, the lag and slowdown were the worst

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