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343 boss: next gen Halo 5 will be "genuinely amazing", Halo 4 is "best game in the series"

"2012 was supposed to be the end of the world," he began. "Instead, it was the beginning of ours. Halo 4, despite being the seventh or eighth game in the Halo series (depending on how you count them), was our first game. That is to say, our first-ever fully fledged title, built from the ground up creatively and technologically. (Next-Gen)

dirigiblebill  +   546d ago
Bigger environments, Scarab battles, Firefight and more crazy gadgetry like the Bubble Shields, pls.
Septic  +   546d ago
""Halo 4 is the best and fastest-selling Halo game in the series. "

Is he actually saying best game or best selling game in the series because to me it appears as if he's saying the latter.
nukeitall  +   546d ago
He is saying it is the best game AND the "fastest" selling game in the Halo series.

He is NOT selling "best" selling, not yet at least.
TheGamerDood  +   546d ago
Genuinely amazing? They're promising a lot now aren't they.
MikeMyers  +   546d ago
So will Halo 5 finally handle more than 16 players online?
Which is the best halo idk.. Why nobody ask them for a new franchise on 360? idk...
nukeitall  +   546d ago
Because not everybody constantly wants new franchises. Some of us was eagerly anticipating the 4th Halo with Master Chief.

I was!
darthv72  +   546d ago
should we ask
polyphony digital for a new franchise on PS?
BitbyDeath  +   546d ago
I agree with Darth, even Polyphony Digital should mix it up a bit every now and then. Surely working constantly on one title must stale the imagination.

Even if it's a small PSN/XBLA type game. I know i'd certainly welcome more random games like Tokyo Jungle and Journey.
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Intentions  +   546d ago
This.

Seeing as the X360 held H4 back in terms of scale etc.
Walker  +   546d ago
best game in the series ? are you kidding me ?
Worst Halo campaign since 2, and the MP is average at best. Not totally fucking it up was a major achievement, but it's not the best anything.

IMO: Halo 3 > Halo:CE = Reach > Halo 2 > ODST > Halo 4
StrongMan  +   546d ago
Exactly.

Halo 4- 87 metacritic score.

Best in the series?
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Septic  +   546d ago
Oh so now you use Metacritic, but when comparing GT with Forza and the like, its all of sudden, magically broken.

Metacritic is broken- only because of a couple of downright ridiculous reviews did it get down-voted.
greenpowerz  +   546d ago
^^
As time goes on and generations pass games have different expectations.

Comparing the same game across different generations isn't the same as comparing two different games in the same genre with media reviewing the offereings of both.

Twilight is still right and you failed.

So many variables in comparing the same game across the series life span, Amount of Reviwers, how old the series is etc.

When reviewers review the different games in the same genre they use benchmark approaches and not just *if its changed or stayed the same* approach
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Loki86  +   546d ago
As a professional Halo player (who gets paid to play), you couldn't be more wrong. This is the best feeling halo since Halo 2. Halo 3 had screen tear, misdirected shots, and performance issues. Reach had several issues with targeting and performance slow down.

The real order according to most actual fans:

Halo CE>Halo 2>Halo 4>Halo 3>Halo Reach>Halo ODST.
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DOMination-  +   546d ago
Halo 3 the best in the series? Really?
Mainsqueeze  +   546d ago
My Halo order from best to worst is Halo 2, Halo CE, Halo 3, Halo 4, Halo Reach, Halo ODST. I can't stand the maps in Halo 4, the only map 343 made that truly supports competitive play is Haven. I was planning on going to an MLG event or two for Halo 4 but then i realized that 343 has no idea how to and maybe even no intentions of supporting the competitive crowd. Plus there's a huge chance that Halo 4 won't even be at a single MLG event due to contract issues and a lack of support from 343 and Microsoft. I also dislike the use of jetpacks and thrusters in competitive play since it makes it too easy for players to save themselves after putting themselves in bad situations as well as gain power positions on the map. Also 343 failed to put in a competitive ranking system, I'm always getting worthless max level players on my team that have negative KD's and lose the game for my team. Currently the only playlist in halo 4 that doesn't support 5 or more players is Infinity slayer, the only playlist that doesn't have vehicles is oddball, and SWAT is the only playlist that doesn't have a radar. The first map pack consists of only larger vehicle based maps and zero maps based on competitive arena play. What the hell happened to good old 4v4 Halo games on smaller maps based on how good your 4 shot was with the BR?

I do however think that the campaign of Halo 4 is probably the 3rd best in the series behind Halo CE and Halo 3. Jump heights, player speed and shot detection are all the best the series has seen since halo 2 as well. And once the BR was implemented and load outs were taken out of competitive play it started to feel a little more like the good old days of Halo 2 and 3 and not the jetpacking boltshot camping fest it has become of late. For me Halo 4 could have been the best in the series, but 343 lack in supporting competitive play turned me off from it. Here's to hoping Halo 5 will be good for both casuals and competitive players alike.
ZigZagLagger  +   546d ago
who the fuck uses the metacritic score to judge a game? that shit is way wack, son!
Black-Helghast  +   546d ago
Halo 4 better than Halo 3? 343's boss doing Crystal Meth or something?
lastofgen  +   546d ago
you believe that odst and halo reach are better than halo 4??

lol..
General Shrooms  +   546d ago
I agree, I want to like it so much but I can't. Halo 4 is worst halo. (at least in terms of multiplayer)
Lvl_up_gamer  +   546d ago
IMO: Halo CE > Halo 4 > Halo 3 > Halo Reach > Halo ODST > Halo 2

Halo CE is only my #1 in the franchise because I hold such strong nostalgia towards it remembering the times using XBC or Gamespy to portal into multiplayer and play online matches with my buddy on blood gulch. Subtract the nostalgia I had....Halo 4 all the way.
crzyjackbauer  +   546d ago
H4 multiplayer is garbage
hell even reach's multiplayer aint that bad compared to 4
SuicidalTendencies  +   546d ago
Best in the series? The campaign was decent at best. The thing that really pisses me off was no firefight. Instead, we get shitty Spartan Ops, and the real pisser is you need a gold account to play despite the fact it can be played alone. Yeah, I'm probably not buying any more Halo from these guys. Bungie at least looked out for their fans.
BlackTar187  +   546d ago
I couldn't believe the Gold for Ops. I was at my brothers playing when i first saw this i was kinda upset but i have gold so it didn't really affect me just thought how scandoucious
Kingofwiiu  +   546d ago
Halo 4 was great. But at the end of the day it felt like Halo 3.....
majiebeast  +   546d ago
Thats a pretty arrogant statement to make.
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HebrewHammer  +   546d ago
They're drunk on Microsoft money at the moment.
Erudito87  +   546d ago
i liked halo 4 its the first hd game of the series i was really thankful for that but it was a letdown when it wasnt released for pc
s8anicslayer  +   546d ago
I think he really meant best graphics in series! ;) Better then ODST and 2 for sure but not 1 & 3.
ILive  +   546d ago
Halo 1 will always be the best Halo. Halo 4 wasn't bad, don't get me wrong. It just seems to be lacking something that I just can't put my hands on. From the sudden return of chief, the guns, the pacing, I just couldn't find my self to care for chief and cortana like I did in the past games. I am sure I am not speaking from nostalgia. I think 4 should have been about, perhaps, finding chief, while this new threat begins to emerge. I did enjoy it for the most part. Perhaps those that are new to the series will appreciate it more.

I really don't understand why people metacritic to justify how good a game is when it is all a matter of personal preference. For example, just because Halo 4 scored lower on metacritic than Halo 1 does not mean its universally accepted that it is the worse between the two.
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JamieL  +   545d ago
Man, that would have been an awesome idea. They spend this game looking for MC, while all hell is breaking loose in the galaxy, then right at the end when all hope seems lost, they spot the Chief's ship floating along, then roll credits. Could you imagine the excitement for Halo 5? I don't how people would have received that idea, but it would set it up 5 a lot like Halo 2 set up 3. I just had to let you know how good of an idea that was IMO.
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Ezz2013  +   546d ago
wait wait ...
halo 2 95%
halo 3 94%
halo reach 91%
halo 4 87%

and that's the best in the series ?!!!
and the game is very very short
it took me 5 hours to finish on hard
the only thing it did right .. that it was finaly an HD game
halo 3 was the best imo
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NeXXXuS  +   546d ago
pretty sure metacritic and other game sites don't count. it's just a gaming resource site. i liked halo 4 and i still play it. Black ops II was beaten is less than five hours and the MP isn't groundbreaking either. 343 did a damn good job with this game.
Ezz2013  +   546d ago
i don't play COD
i only buy it for my younger sister to play it on xbox
check my live account
so i don't know

and that what halo4 took me to finish
the game is good but far from the best halo game
halo 3 was the last best halo i played
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riverstars86  +   546d ago
I gotta say that it's better than Reach, I tried to get into that game and it was very rough. I guess the game is getting kind of dated, just like many of the shooters today (COD, ect). I think they need to actually need to make some real changes to the gameplay that is essentially the same since the inception of the series back in 2001.
omi25p  +   546d ago
Trails evolution is not on pc.

Halo 4 is has as short of a campaign as, resistance, uncharted, killzone and god of war. The big difference is. Halo 4 also has, Multiplayer, Spartan ops, Forge, Custom game modes, Theater mode. The ps3 exclusives dont.

Actually Microsoft only post sales. Sales arent impossible to track because the shops microsoft ship their console to send them reports on how many were sold whenever they make a new order. You clearly have no idea how this works.

I have A ps3, I had PSN+ i got rid of it as soon as they said there cant be party chat, I barely use my ps3 because it doesnt have party chat.

All the PS3 fans who have sony goggles such as yourself say it isnt necessary but everyone else says it is.

Nice job spamming me with comments, Pms then when i reply you block me, What you said to me in the pms and this comment prove you are nothing but a Fanboy.

Feel free to respond but i guess you know im right so wont bother. Hense why you blocked me in the first place.
suicidalblues  +   546d ago
You're delusional if you think any company tracks individual sales. Just like the automotive industry (or any other) when a product leaves the manufacturer it counts as sold. The only ones concerned with "sold-through" numbers are the retailers. And they don't have someone calling Microsoft or any other company telling them what sold that day.

Here's another way to think about it. As an investor, would you put money into a company that shipped millions of units into various outlets but didn't report them until they sold? I like knowing absolutes when I invest, and that wouldn't cut it.
ILive  +   546d ago
You sound like "fanboy" yourself.
omi25p  +   546d ago
suicidalblues
Your a moron who clearly has no idea how a business works. When i ship a product to a company its because they bought that product from me, When i then get another order from that same company its because they sold out of that same product.

Which means i know how many they are selling.

Sure you arent going to get an absolutely accurate number but your going to get a relatively close estimate.

ILIVE
yep you're write im the fanboy who like both consoles equally, buys all the exclusives, plays also the games and wants both company's to do well so that i benefit from it.

Yep you caught me im a straight up fanboy. Moron.
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suicidalblues  +   546d ago
^omi

You ever wonder why you don't see Microsoft trucks pulling up to Walmart? And no, they don't FedEx them everyday, they come in on the Walmart truck en masse from the warehouse. That's when units get tracked, when the warehouse gets stocked. Ugh, I shouldn't even bother, with all your business knowledge you can't even spell "you're" correctly.
PockyKing  +   546d ago
Did you honestly just compare the length of Halo 4's campaign to Uncharted, Killzone and God of War? Wow...and you call the guy below you a fanboy lol. Halo 4's campaign was good for what it was, and it was certainly way too short. I beat it in just under 4 hours, but I did enjoy it. But, when I was done I was like...that was it? It didn't have that epic feeling to it that past Halo games have had, even the though the story was much more focused this time around.

But honestly, don't even compare the length of Halo 4's campaign. It was too short, hell Call of Duty Black Ops 2's campaign was longer than Halo 4's..
NeXXXuS  +   546d ago
I never said you played CoD. I was just making a point.
Norrison  +   546d ago
Using your metacritic logic ,
Forza >>>> Gran Turismo 5
tdogchristy90  +   546d ago
After reading these comments, i'm glad I left when bungie left.
Septic  +   546d ago
Seriously? You're going base your expectations and feelings on what the comments on N4G, of all places, say? Wow.
tdogchristy90  +   546d ago
No. I left based on my own investigation. The community just backs up my theory with their comments. Like science.
BanBrother  +   546d ago
@Septic

You seriously trying to reason with him? If he decided to not buy a game based off a few (deluded fanboy) coments, he was never a fan in the first place.

I am one of the few people I know(probably the only one I know) who enjoyed EVERY halo game. I though ODST was amazing. So was Reach.

I rate Halo 4 either 2nd or equal first with CE. Few games have wowed me this gen, and Halo 4 was one of them. Every halo game is a 10/10 experience for me, as I love learning more about the universe and characters from the books.
Bob570  +   546d ago
Of course it's best in sales, there are WAY more people with Xbox 360s than there were 5 years ago when Halo 3 came out, or 2 years ago when Reach came out. They're still riding off of Bungie's success.

Ask the long time Halo fans. From what I've gathered, I think most are disappointed. I've been huge into Halo since 2003, we did tons of Halo 1 and 2 LAN parties as well as tons of time on Halo 2 and 3 and a fair amount of Reach on Xbox Live. I don't know anyone who went to the Halo 1 LAN parties who still plays Halo 4.

Sorry, Halo 4 is FAR from being best in the series.

TO BE FAIR: Frankie never said it was the best game in the series, the title is very misleading. He said "Halo 4 is the best and fastest-selling Halo game in the series." The best selling, not the best game.
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Loki86  +   546d ago
I know of at least forty pro players that played Halo 1 and Love this game including, Eleven, Gintron, all of STK, Shockwav3, Anarchy, Commando, Shizz, and several others. Most pro players think this is the most competitive Halo since 2 and the tightest shooter since CE.
Mainsqueeze  +   546d ago
Sure the controls are tight and all that, but 343's lack of support is killing its pro scene. LoL and SC2 will continue to dominate at MLG, and Halo 4, if at MLG at all, will take the back seat once again. Ask yourself, so far what has 343 done to support its competitive scene? not what they will do or what they might do or what speculation says they will do, just what have they done so far. The answer in my opinion is very little. I kind of ranted about it in my previous post if u wan't to see what i'm talking about. Hell a lot of the big name pros aren't even trying to go to MLG any more. Sorry but players like Eleven, Gintron, Cpt Anarchy, Commando, and Shizz aren't going to bring halo back to its former MLG status, those are all minor no name semi pros that nobody will follow. Where is Walshy? the Ogres? Karma? Like i said before Halo 4 could of been close to Halo 2's greatness but the maps and settings destroyed any chance of that happening.
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aviator189  +   546d ago
Considering the monumental task at hand, I think 343 Industries did a terrific job with their first fully-fledged title as a studio.

I think, for all of the flaws of Halo 4, one has to remember that the studio was constantly building itself from the ground-up, with the majority of the hiring of their 300+ group occurring in the middle of Halo 4 development. That's one of the main reasons why I applaud 343i for the work they've done in the middle of all of this.

Sure, there are flaws with the game, but what game isn't?

I think the main success with Halo 4's development has to go to the build-up of a studio of major talent. As they begin their work on Halo 5 for the next xbox, starting out as a full studio without having to worry about hiring tons of people is a major plus.

As for the best in the series..
In my belief, I honestly feel that Halo 4 is comparable, but does not surpass, to the best of Halo. In some ways, Halo 4 falters behind and surpasses in others, but, as a whole, it's among the best.

One thing's for sure: Halo 4 is miles ahead and easily crushes Halo Reach.
kostchtchie_  +   546d ago
no only the MP makes this game live, 1 & 2 will always be the best
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   546d ago
HAlo 4 certainly has one of the best multiplayers of the series. But the campaign is the worst of the series imo. It was just lack luster and not that great.

BUt Halo 4 is still a great entry in the series the multiplayer is its Strongest point. Hopefully Halo 5 will deliver a better campaign.
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jjb1981  +   546d ago
Halo 4 is awesome but none will surpass combat evolved!
Loki86  +   546d ago
People need to realize regarding multiplayer that this game is still in it's infancy. Halo 2 and Halo 3 didn't even get half players until after the several updates. Halo 2 took almost a full year to gain it's merits and Halo 3 took over 6 months after several software updates. 343i has a lot of plans in the pipeline and is actually listening to consumer feedback, so a few years when Halo 5 comes out everyone will be directly comparing it to 4 as the new benchmark.
etownone  +   546d ago
Bring on Halo 5 on next gen.

Halo 4 easily had the best graphics of any Halo game to date.
It's obvious we all have e different opinions of which Halo game is the best. BUT I'd put Halo 4 up there for sure.
Playstation4LyFe  +   546d ago
Give it up already and move on... i can just see it happening right now, HALO 6 E3 2016, GEARS OF WAR 4 E3 2016.. they have nothing, i hope steambox + wii u + ps4 put em out of business.
aviator189  +   546d ago
I don't understand how you can want a company, a company, like any other, that probably has a ton of employees working hard for their families and kids, to be out of business.

In all honesty, I wish all companies and their employees the best of luck with their products.
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Playstation4LyFe  +   546d ago
Ahhhh yup!!!! woooooooooooooo!

Tell them to stop copying and pasting the same old garbage, they shouldn't be making that much $ for such a copy and paste video game!
zebrahim  +   546d ago
I enjoyed halo 4...certainly better than halo 3, dost and reach. Something peculiar happened the other day though. I bought a ps3 and played Killzone 2 and 3 after each other....wow! I should've listened to my brother when he told me how awesome it was. I haven't played the multi though but he said it was superb. Pity I got it so late. Strangely though these are old games in comparison and to me they look far better. I hope they sold well to warrant a sequel.
mayberry  +   546d ago
Killzone 2/3 online are FPS gold! Yes, there are 'diehards' that will (rightfully), nit-pick the comparisons between the two, but imho, you will not regret a single session! Also, if you can, try them with a 'true' 7.1 surround sound set up! The ps3 outputs this and Guerrilla Games took full advantage of it! And in 3D too.
Ashunderfire86  +   546d ago
Halo 1 and 3 had the best campaign gameplay in the series. Halo 4 had the best story and graphics. Halo 2 had the best online play with Halo 3 beginning an evolution of it. I actually like Halo Reach campaign too, but it didn't have the wow big battle and game ending countdown factor like Halo 1,2, and 3. Halo 4 lack that also, with that stupid(Spoiler Alert) game ending Boss fight Quick Time Event, that has nothing to do with the Halo series!!! That's just lazy 343!!!! I didn't like how Halo 4 doesn't have Free For All deathmatch, when I played it at launch!!! Bring back dual wield feature from Halo 2 and 3!!!! Bring back secondary vehicle explosions!!! It's very realistic!!! I don't know why they did not include that? My favorite Halo in the series is still Halo 1.
Munnkyman  +   546d ago
Sorry halo 1 is the best. Nothing well ever beat all the crazy LAN parties I had with it
stone_cold  +   546d ago
enough halo it will be boring it is great if halo 4 is the latest in the series
aviator189  +   546d ago
your sentence structure made my brain hurt.
edonus  +   546d ago
That is a hard one.

Quiet as kept all the Halos are great in there own right.

I think ODST gets a bad rep but that campaign was one one of my favorites. Running around the city in a pretty much open world format, finding clues and playing flashbacks of your team. The opening sequence of dropping from space is still one of my favorites in the series. But it was just an expansion or add on of Halo 3.

Halo 3 was a culmination of what made Halo 1 & Halo 2 great. It was old school Halo at its best. Very basic solid and solid. The jump to to Reach may have thrown some off because now they started integrating new tech in to the series. Reach still has the best tactical balance in the series. The armor abilities allows players to create styles that really suit them making everyone that knows their style potentially super deadly.

Hal 4 toned down the balance of abilities the jet pack doesnt fly as long, Armor lock has been converted into a (pos) shield everyone has sprint standard. But then they tweaked the weapons and extra customizing to make the combat extremely tight. The level design is pretty good in for as well.

I think HAlo 2 and Halo CE get lots of nostalgia point as well but they are classics and milestones so they deserve it.
IWentBrokeForGaming  +   546d ago
I own and really dig HALO 4 but the franchise ALWAYS seems minimally better than it's earlier games...

This franchise needs to be reinvented... how long does "don't fix what isn't broken" actually work? till before you know it... your beating a dead horse!
M-M  +   546d ago
Meh, I think COD will be better anyways.
kupomogli  +   546d ago
Halo 5? More like Gaylo 5.

-Chad Warden
shadowwizard  +   546d ago
How about a new IP?

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