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PS4: Sony’s Moment of Truth

The Xbox 360 holds the cards. In the next generation, Sony will need to make a comeback.

The next generation is right around the corner. With the next iteration of Microsoft’s Xbox, currently referred to as Xbox 720, possibly finding its way to store shelves later this year and an increase in reports and rumors regarding Sony’s PlayStation 4, the next several months will be brimming with new and exciting previews of the next several years of gaming. In some respects the next generation has already begun, with Nintendo releasing the Wii U last November. The next console war is imminent.

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miyamoto1359d ago

Sony will need to make a comeback...

stopped right there...
another site desperate for hits

duh? when did it leave?

Did MS kicked them out of the games industry?

"The report also highlights that just this past December, Sony's PS3 managed to surpass the number of Xbox 360s shipped worldwide (about 77 million vs. 76 million), despite the PS3 launching a year later."

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

The author must be living in an alternate reality...

JoGam1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

I swear I hate these types of opinion pieces.

decrypt1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

Well Sony is a near bankrupt company. I doubt they will even have the budgets to make a proper Ps4 launch.

Back in 2000 Sony was worth 200 billion usd. Today they are hardly worth 10 billion usd. They will need to a miracle to make a turn around. As a company they have only been posting losses since the last 4 years.

I would be vary of buying any Sony products since if they close down, no future support.

@chuk5

Check Sony stocks they are only getting decimated. Sony as a company is in trouble. Failing divisions mean even the gaming division did well it wouldnt be enough for the company in the long run. No company can sustain itself indefinetly on losses.

@below

Lol learn to read i said 10 billion. Not 10 million. 10 billion in todays world is nothing. Specially with when sony is competing with companies like Ms who is worth 220billion. Potentially Apple who is worth near 600billion or hell even a company like samsung who is worth 200 billion.

How is Sony to compete with these companies in any field when they can out spend sony on R&D, marketing etc. Its not possible not without a miracle.

Ezz20131359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

@decrypt

"Well Sony is a near bankrupt company."

what the .... oh it's the usual decrypt comment

and the only "failing" division is sonyTV
the music/movies/playstatin bring them alot of money

theBAWSE1359d ago

Again propaganda article

click the plus sign next to the websites name and mark it down

its the only way we will stop these fud spreading articles desperate for hits

Silly gameAr1359d ago

@decrypt

How can a company that's still worth billions be near bankruptcy? That must be the wishful thinking of yours again.

BitbyDeath1359d ago

"Well Sony is a near bankrupt company."

Wish i was going bankrupt like Sony.
http://www.engadget.com/201...

b163o11359d ago

@Bitbydeath

I love how people disagree with facts lol

TheGamerDood1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

How a developer codes for a certain piece of hardware is not the fault of the hardware maker.

Both the PS3 and xbox version of COD suffer from the same level of lag/bugs as the other and both are still suffering from lag compensation issues.

Please report this worthless troll garbage as lame. Thnx.

360ICE1358d ago (Edited 1358d ago )

@decrypt, While I'd certainly agree that Sony are in a lot of trouble, they do have plenty of money and infrastructure to spend incredibly much on R&D.

Kaz Hirai has bought out Ericsson, bought a considerable amount of shares in Nikon and made many deals in several departments. They've also had huge lay offs, and are selling away huge chunks of their chemical department. That's what they're doing. Liquidating failing branches and investing even more into the ones they think can be profitable. PlayStation is one of the latter, so they're not all that likely to take it easy with the PS4.

Also, after a plummet earlier this year Sony stock has been fairly stable.

@Bitbydeath
Yeah, that is a great example of Sony's current tactic. Scrap together money and invest. Gaikai, EMI, you name it.

Btw, if you disagree. Go to Wikinvest or forbes or wherever and take a look at Sony's stock, their investments and their stated business strategy. That's generally what I'm noting down here.

Pintheshadows1358d ago

Dear god Decrypt, I didn't know someone could type that much nonsense. Well done you.

Just to clarify as you seem confused. The difference between a struggling giant that is still worth billions and a bankrupt company is very vast indeed. Sony are currently undergoing significant restructuring to address the issue (the TV department might as well smash them with hammers when they roll off the line) which has already steadied metaphorical boat. It will take time (think years) for the effects to truly show. You seem to also be oblivious to the fact that circumstances change and new competion arises. Think Apple's emergence as a technology superpower or the rise of Kia in the car market.

I'm really sick of explaining this.

trancefreak1358d ago

Amen Jo Anyways back to gaming on my ps3.

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gtr_loh1358d ago

@decrypt.

How in the hell is Sony near bankrupt? That hardly makes any sense. Sony's total assets increased since 2011. The net worth of Sony as of 2012 is 13.7 Trillion Yen approx, 150B USD. That is not near bankruptcy. Even though Sony has posted fiscal losses, it does not mean they're going out of Business. I also don't know what you're talking about with R&D and marketing. Sony's spent fortunes on R&D and marketing when the PS3 came out in '07, there were tons of ad's marketing that machine. Also, when the Vita released, there were ad's of the vita on literally every channel for the first few mounths of it's release.

-Source for Sony's net worth http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

and... No, i'm not a fanboy. I find decrypt's statement fictitious and not factual.

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Chuk51359d ago

That's a report, not officially backed numbers. I think it's more from the opinion that Sony has suffered a significant economic loss on the ps3, and while sales are steadying, in comparison MS has been placed in a better position economically to start next gen.

miyamoto1359d ago

Huh?

Are you living in la vida loca, Ricky Martin?

There is no doubt MS has deep pockets and makes money more than Sony and Nintendo combined.

But that is not the Xbox division.

MS lost more money on 360 than it did on the first Xbox, LOST SO MUCH MONEY ON ITS Japanese campaign, to piracy, xbox live account hacks, to exclusivity deals and non exclusivity deals against Ps3, so on and so forth. Yet it still cant be the world's number one gaming platform.

Chuk51359d ago

@Miyamto

My point still is that MS is economically better situated for next-gen. A point which you didn't counter or address very much, so the rest of your post is a bit irrelevant. I mean piracy isn't 360 exclusive.

Hingle_Mcringleberry1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

Miyamoto, bro, why resort to lies? The Xbox 360 covered ALL its losses back in the 2011 and started making an overall profit. "Now Microsoft is over the hump: the business group containing Xbox has
turned an operating PROFIT for EACH of the
last 11 QUARTERS (last 4 years back then), including a $1.05
BILLION PROFIT last quarter thanks to sales of Kinect."
http://articles.businessins...
With Xbox Live alone bringing in nearly a billion every single year in revenue, it's no suprise Xbox 360 has been a commercially successful venture for Microsoft.
So no, they have not lost more than they did with the original Xbox, not even close.
Sony on the other hand blew through ALL the profit that the ps1 and ps2 made them by launching the PS3 and has yet to recover that. The ps3 may be profitable per unit sold, but it has yet to completely recoup the 4.7 billion SONY sunk into it.
http://www.vg247.com/2009/1...
Know your facts bro.

MikeMyers1359d ago

miyamoto, you really need to do your homework. The Xbox 360 has been much more of a success story for Microsoft than the original Xbox in many ways. They have also acquired key publisher support as well and are in good financial shape leading into next generation.

Game forums are the last place to get any real indication of what is going to happen next generation. Not when you have fans rooting for their preferred company.

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scofios1359d ago

The Xbox 360 holds the cards.

Ok whatever makes you sleep at night.

UnholyLight1359d ago

**Microsoft holds all the cards, yes.

In response to some of the comments above by Miyamoto etc they are in a GREAT position come next gen especially with all the acquisition of developers and such. There's no denying that overall, Microsoft has done way better this gen than Sony. I mean, I like Sony and wanna see them succeed too, but from a business perspective they have struggled a bit to get things off the ground for them, so overall, Microsoft is economically a lot stronger than Sony. Of course PS3 has basically matched Xbox 360 sales but Sony has lost a lot of money trying to get the PS3 where it is. Microsoft's spending this gen has not been a LOSS but rather an input that has yielded great gains for their company. Throwing 10million$ or so at a developer to help Microsoft have early exclusivity (Treyarch, IW) has yielded more sales on the Xbox 360 side of CoD for example, which means they likely made back these inputs quite easily.

Simple business, people. Doesn't take a University Commerce student (me) to figure that one out haha.

Seraphemz1358d ago

@light - "Of course PS3 has basically matched Xbox 360 sales " They actually passed them already, even with a years head start.

And dont forget, from Wii, 360 and PS3..the Wii was smashing the other formats.

Now things are different. But even from the begining, the PS3 was always the best deal.

FriedGoat1358d ago

It doesn't matter who is in a better position, Just look at who was in the better position with the PS2 and XBOX. Should that not be evident enough?

Resistance_lord1359d ago

It's more like a Troll Piece >.>

kenshiro1001358d ago

Gotta love these sites. They're still living in 2007 with the same old story.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1358d ago (Edited 1358d ago )

Why 360 fans so made? we all play the same games besides the 1 upcoming xbox exclusives and the 18 upcoming ps3 exclusives.

lfclee1358d ago

I think perhaps he means the ps2 was the greatest console ever when it sold more than a hundred and fifty million and where the company is now sharing the market !

jamiefoxx9111358d ago SpamShow
showtimefolks1358d ago

the xbox defense force is in full effect

decrypt

http://www.engadget.com/201...

i guess sony bankrupt no wonder why they bought something for 2.2 billion yet they are going bankrupt

look at economy a lot of companies are struggling but sony's gaming division is actually profitable

also sony is still worth in 20 billion range not 10 billion

why is it so hard to face facts that ps3 outsold xbox360 since launch at a higher price point.

xbox360 came a full year ahead of ps3 here and 1.5 years ahead in Europe and ps3 was priced $599

http://www.videogamer.com/n...

sony's ps3 to sell 127 million consoles lifetime sales

xbox360 2nd and wii 3rd

ps3 over taking xbox really wasn't a surprise it was only matter of time

ElectricKaibutsu1358d ago

"ps3 over taking xbox really wasn't a surprise it was only matter of time"

I totally agree. But why did it take them so long? And why did the 360 need over taking at all? The PS2 was the best selling console ever and, unlike the Wii, those PS2 sales were from the hardcore not casuals. Now Sony has sold half as many systems which means half their customers switched to Xbox. Half! That's a big loss and Sony can only blame themselves. They were unprepared for the launch of the 360, they released too late, and at too high a price thanks to that cell processor.

I'm as big of a Sony fan as anyone, and have no love for Microsoft, but I'm not blind to the mistakes they made.

Not that I really care, I'm still buying a PS4 day one. I just hope Sony gets their PS2 era mojo back.

Edward751358d ago

@miyamoto.

Comeback to dominance. Market share took a plunge. That could be considered a comeback.... Getting back to the dominating force they once were.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF1358d ago

No, all MS has done to Sony is kick their butt in sales numbers for the last 24 months in a row, in the biggest and most important place for video game sales.

The USA.

That's all they did.

Ezz20131358d ago

yes we know that USA=World
we know there is no life outside USA
the last person who got out of USA
they never heard of him again

Cam9771358d ago

Down vote the source:

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CaptainofCrush1359d ago

Sony's reputation has suffered irreparable damage by the poor performance of it's 3rd PlaceStation.

Games4M - Rob1359d ago

That's nice dear, now run along and try not to say anything else stupid.

Sevir1358d ago

I live for this comment!

majiebeast1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

SALTY! Its okay to cry.

GribbleGrunger1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

It's always the natural thing for people to look the other way when something frightening is coming. Second place is assured and first place is possible. People like you might want to bury your head deep but I'm afraid that all those Sony fans you scoffed at aren't going to let you forget for a very very long time. I will only mention it if people like you gloat in 720 thread but I'm afraid others won't. It all came home to roost.

Hingle_Mcringleberry1359d ago

Sony fans he scoffed at for what exactly? Why do people round these parts act as though their consoles and companies that make them are an extension of themselves?
Honestly, this goes out to all sides, why are you so emotionally vested in this?? It is just a freaking piece of plastic

GribbleGrunger1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

Agreed. It would have been nice to have discussed Uncharted or TLOU without 360 fans flooding the thread and telling us how terrible they are. It would have been nice to buy a PS3 without people constantly going on about it being a failure and how Sony would soon be pulling out the games industry. In fact, it would have been nice to come here and share my likes and dislikes with my PS3 friends in peace and isolation, but it never happened. I just see this as poetic judgement and nothing less than the PS3 fans deserve on here after years of gloating from 360 owners.

360 fans are going to have a rough time on here for the foreseeable future, but I have to say they made their bed, they must now lay in it. Oh, there will be gloating if the 720 releases first and yes, I will remind them of history (as I did many times during this gen) but Sony fans won't be none too bothered. They'll quietly and politely remind them of what they said about the PS3.

I did not create this situation, I was just unwillingly caught up in it. If Sony fans gloat, then I'll always ask for fairness, but in all honestly, I can't blame them.

starchild1358d ago

Oh jeeze, GribbleGrunger. What alternate reality are you living in?

I'm far from being an Xbox fanboy (mostly PC fan), but it has been well-known that the PS3 fanboys on n4g have been rabid and have treated fans of other systems absolutely horribly the whole generation. Quit acting like a victim, because it is the farthest thing from the truth.

It's YOU ps3 fanboys that deserve a comeuppance more than anybody.

lfclee1358d ago (Edited 1358d ago )

I see what you mean .

Pintheshadows1358d ago

Sorry Starchild, but back when N4G had the Openzone and the PS3 had just come out this place was firmly entrenched in the 360 fanboys camp. The kind that would verbally attack you just for having a PS3 and wanting to talk about it. I'd say those early years of the gen on here were far worse than now.

I don't condone the PS3 fanboys these days either but they were created by the 360 fanboys who forced PS3 owners into a corner and forced them to fight back, and in turn created a monster.

I remember one troll in particular who used the robot from the awful, Asimov defiling, iRobot film as his avatar. He alone was worse than all the trolls currently operating, including J-blaze.

GrandTheftZamboni1358d ago

@starchild

"PS3 fanboys on n4g have been rabid and have treated fans of other systems absolutely horribly the whole generation."

I guess you haven't been visiting n4g in 2007, 2008, when it was the xbox fanboys refuge.

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Seraphemz1358d ago

You mean the 3rd60...because Sony has passed it in Sales...

Urusernamesucks1358d ago

LOL! 1.8 million behind still, where do you fanboys get your sources?

Seraphemz1358d ago

Dont tell me that you are looking at VG chartz??

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

Check out the last paragraph..or any other game site that has this story up...

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MultiConsoleGamer1359d ago

It could be their Dreamcast.

It could be their Wii.

It could be their Phantom.

We'll just have to wait and see. Until then, ignore the naysayer and the doom and gloom.

Phoenix761359d ago

The Phantom!!!! Lmao Jesus Christ mate, haven't heard that name get mentioned in a long time. Wasn't that the 'reportedly' PC-Console that was just a bare bone basic pc with a crap plastic casing that some guy want to flog for 6x times the true value??

SilentNegotiator1359d ago

Phantom? They aren't going to scam people into investing.

Ya could have stopped at "Their Dreamcast or their Wii"

strigoi8141359d ago

now a Sony doom article coming up..!!!

Incoming!!!!

Clarence1359d ago (Edited 1359d ago )

The PS3 has surpassed the 360 console sales so you know its going to be a lot of Sony is doomed articles.

Of course the article about the PS3 surpassing the 360 is now marked fail because of the haters.

The truth is if you look at the numbers
http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
Sonys 3Q ended in December. The PS3 has been selling about 6m consoles in the 3Q. http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

For a console to come out a year later than another console and then surpass it, shows the staying power of the playstation brand.

Its not the moment of truth for the PS4 because it hasn't been released yet.

Jdoki1359d ago

This is gonna be like 2007 all over again!