I wouldn't call it hate. What I see are those who think multiple devices can't or shouldn't co-exist. There are people who can play games on their tablet or phone and also play games on a console or PC. So why are people so determined to make sure they are categorized into different classes of gamers?
If I read a book on an iPad does that now make me a different class of reader than one who prefers to read from a paperback?
At the end of the day it's about enjoyment. If someone enjoys bite sized 0.99 cent games all the more power to them. If they also enjoy 60 hour RPG's on a console or PC that's fine too. Consoles serve the purpose for certain needs. Some like the set-top box that is easy to connect to the television and a familiar controller and so on. There is a market for that. The difference is that console also now does other things. It connects to things like Netflix, it can play movies, it can play music. Consoles have become an entertainment hub. Same with the PC, it can do even more applications. Handhelds have also changed over time. Vita does more than just play games. So what that means is even though there are markets for dedicated devices they still need to offer consumers more flexibility.
Playing games on a 5" screen or a 50" screen is still about being entertained. Same with playing games on a touchscreen or with dual joysticks, it's all about entertainment. There's no need to feel threatened that one is better than the other. They can all co-exist. The growth seems to be in mobile gaming but that doesn't mean handhelds or consoles are dying. It just means games are branching out and being more accessible. They can all co-exist.
Console yes, as long as they can continue to provide a solid product for their audience.
Handheld, NO. The PS Vita is a great gaming platform, and when it had my 3DS it was solid as well, but I don't see handhelds having another strong showing after this generation.
Cell Phone and Tablet gaming has caught up, and devices with dedicated controls are showing up among them. The following games rival anything on 3DS and Vita graphically:
There's much more, and then you have the flood of pick up and play games. There's no need for a handheld anymore not named Nintendo (who may have 1 - 2 more generations in them simply for being label a kids device.)
Sony would be wise to make a gaming tablet next time that syncs with the PS4 completely and not just in the was they've done with the PSP and PSV. A dedicated gaming tablet can justify the $300 that the VIta currently can't. It'll also have Sony's first party to back it up as well as all the mobile developers to build an instant library of games that are priced to compete with mobile. On top of that Gaikai support for more console quality games.
Taking in account the sum of sales of the X360, PS3, PSP, PS Vita, DS, 3DS, Wii and WiiU ... i dare anyone to say that console business is not here to stay.
Probably the next generation of consoles won't sell as much as this generation, due to the amount of devices available in the market at this moment (and future devices to be released), but it will still be a pretty big business.
It doesn't take a calculator to see the market has increased from Generation 6 to 7 , I do think maybe the Ipads , Ipuds and Ipeds and Ouyas will have no Major impact on Dedicated Gaming hardware sales and it will continue to grow with Nintendo , Microsoft and Sony playing tug of war for Market share.
Convergence. The All-in-One Home/Portable gaming device is the future of console gaming. I think the hate is more on fanboys not the actual console themselves
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Yup! consoles are very much here to stay thanks to Android OS.
Android is the latest big boy to join the console party.
Archos, Nvidia, Valve (huge PC gaming supporters) and an army of small upstart hardware companies are supporting home and handheld consoles console gaming will have a second mainstream boost in popular culture like the PSOne did in the mid 1990's.
Nvidia and Valve presence in the console arena means more PC stuff making its way to consoles.
But consoles will evolve into even smarter, all-around multi-purpose digital entertainment beasts.
Like dinosaurs adapted in the form of modern day birds, home consoles will come in smaller packages, have their own screen and touch controls like mobile devices, yet pack even more power and functions.
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The All-in-One Home/Portable gaming device is the future of console gaming.
Hideo Kojima said that in the future its going to be console gaming transcending hardware: home or portable devices. Metal Gear will be on many platforms.
Soon all gaming devices will have their own built in LCD screen. PSP & PS Vita does this with PS3, Wii U does this, Smartglass does this with 360. Nvidia does this with Project Shield.
Heck I even use my PSP 3000 as a home console by hooking it up with my 46" Samsung.
yes we probably have one more generation left. I don't see the need for powerful consoles after that. mobile devices (that can output to tv, connect to wireless controllers) will be "good enough", and cloud gaming.
Mobile devices will always be a step behind, I don't see console ever going anywhere, the console cycles are just going to get longer as technology gets better.
Mobile gaming ( tablets , phones) will never replace Console gaming because they are two different markets.
Also most mobile games are touch screen only. You don't feel as immersed as you do when you actually push buttons and move analog sticks. I just can't get into touch screen only games. They seem so limited and hard to control.
"always"... probably not the right word to use in your subject. Case in point, people often said laptops would always be a step behind desktops and yet the desktop market now is nothing like it was 10 years ago.
it would seem that laptops have reached that point of being the desktop replacement AND offer the convenience of mobility that a desktop cant offer.
Now i should point out that perhaps there will be a convergence of what amounts to a mobile device that doubles as a console. That idea is very possible and has been done several times in the gaming market. From units like the turboexpress (portable turbografx) and nomad (portable genesis) to dedicated mobile devices that can plug into a tv to play (such as the psp 2000/3000 and GO).
At some point there wont be a "console" like we think but it will be a console when connected to a tv via direct output or a docking station. And it will have all the power it needs to display HD graphics and use traditional controls but when you want to take it with you, just disconnect and you can continue to play the same game on the move.
Tablets and phones with tv out and bluetooth connectivity are bridging that gap. Maybe we shouldnt chastise the mobility market so much because as with everything else, things do get smaller and better over time.
I don't think mobile gaming market is that different from consoles. They are both "gaming" markets.
What is important here is how is consoles going to differentiate itself from mobile?
Will mobile eventually close the gap (not just in graphics, but also in use and convenience). Sometimes it is not about meeting or exceeding if it is close enough.
I think what he meant is that portable devices will pack enough processing power to be multipurpose in terms of their application. That is, smartphone in your pocket or console when docked next to your TV.
Well it is stating the obvious, but it's nice to hear from one of the console makers. I doubt we'll ever see a point where consoles hit 100+ million sales again, but there will always be a demand for dedicated home consoles.
if you plan to block used game sales and have atrociously extortionate digital prices you're not doing any favours to your consumers or the console business
Tell em! & let it be heard around the world! Theres a reason why PS consoles are the best selling home systems in the world.. (handheld market, not so much) but PS has the absolute BEST amount of software & value.. I must admit that MS got em this gen with the networking but i know they licked their wounds & will come back harder next time..
It doesnt even matter cuz as long as i get great exclusives, i will support sony for as long as i am a gamer.. Nintendo is second because of zelda, metroid, & the odd but magical fun i have competing in mario karts n smash bros.. MS really does nothing for me.. Great 3rd party support & great network but over flooded with western titles that can also be found on PS so theres nothing there that interests me.. Not paying $60/yr for online play either
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I do not hate it at all. I Love it!
Now PS4 will be hated when it's released cause of another ten years lifecycle?
If I read a book on an iPad does that now make me a different class of reader than one who prefers to read from a paperback?
At the end of the day it's about enjoyment. If someone enjoys bite sized 0.99 cent games all the more power to them. If they also enjoy 60 hour RPG's on a console or PC that's fine too. Consoles serve the purpose for certain needs. Some like the set-top box that is easy to connect to the television and a familiar controller and so on. There is a market for that. The difference is that console also now does other things. It connects to things like Netflix, it can play movies, it can play music. Consoles have become an entertainment hub. Same with the PC, it can do even more applications. Handhelds have also changed over time. Vita does more than just play games. So what that means is even though there are markets for dedicated devices they still need to offer consumers more flexibility.
Playing games on a 5" screen or a 50" screen is still about being entertained. Same with playing games on a touchscreen or with dual joysticks, it's all about entertainment. There's no need to feel threatened that one is better than the other. They can all co-exist. The growth seems to be in mobile gaming but that doesn't mean handhelds or consoles are dying. It just means games are branching out and being more accessible. They can all co-exist.
Handheld, NO. The PS Vita is a great gaming platform, and when it had my 3DS it was solid as well, but I don't see handhelds having another strong showing after this generation.
Cell Phone and Tablet gaming has caught up, and devices with dedicated controls are showing up among them. The following games rival anything on 3DS and Vita graphically:
Real Racing 2
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Real Racing 3 (beyond what Vita has even shown)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
NOVA 3 (aka Halo Mobile)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Gangster Rio (aka GTA)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Battlefield Bad Company 2
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Dead Trigger
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Six Guns
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
There's much more, and then you have the flood of pick up and play games. There's no need for a handheld anymore not named Nintendo (who may have 1 - 2 more generations in them simply for being label a kids device.)
Sony would be wise to make a gaming tablet next time that syncs with the PS4 completely and not just in the was they've done with the PSP and PSV. A dedicated gaming tablet can justify the $300 that the VIta currently can't. It'll also have Sony's first party to back it up as well as all the mobile developers to build an instant library of games that are priced to compete with mobile. On top of that Gaikai support for more console quality games.
Tablets are the future of handheld gaming.
The people saying that consoles were dying are as dumb as people saying PC gaming is dying or that cloud gaming is going to take over.
Wii U is selling just fine and the others of the big three clearly have plans for another console.
Probably the next generation of consoles won't sell as much as this generation, due to the amount of devices available in the market at this moment (and future devices to be released), but it will still be a pretty big business.
Do you really think People are gunna stop Playing Consoles to play Buttonless IPADS and Tegra devices and Ouya's ? HAHAHAHAHAHA lol no.
People talk about how Console/Handheld gaming is in decline ?
Really *pulls out list*
Generation 6 - Rough console sales
Ps2- 155M , GCN - 25M , Xbox - 28M , GBA - 90M , Ngage - lol
Generation 7 - Rough console sales
Wii - 100M , Ps3 - 72M , 360 -74M , DS 155M , PSP - 75M
It doesn't take a calculator to see the market has increased from Generation 6 to 7 , I do think maybe the Ipads , Ipuds and Ipeds and Ouyas will have no Major impact on Dedicated Gaming hardware sales and it will continue to grow with Nintendo , Microsoft and Sony playing tug of war for Market share.
I think the hate is more on fanboys not the actual console themselves
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1.)
Yup! consoles are very much here to stay thanks to Android OS.
Android is the latest big boy to join the console party.
Archos, Nvidia, Valve (huge PC gaming supporters) and an army of small upstart hardware companies are supporting home and handheld consoles console gaming will have a second mainstream boost in popular culture like the PSOne did in the mid 1990's.
Nvidia and Valve presence in the console arena means more PC stuff making its way to consoles.
But consoles will evolve into even smarter, all-around multi-purpose digital entertainment beasts.
Like dinosaurs adapted in the form of modern day birds, home consoles will come in smaller packages, have their own screen and touch controls like mobile devices, yet pack even more power and functions.
2.)
The All-in-One Home/Portable gaming device is the future of console gaming.
Hideo Kojima said that in the future its going to be console gaming transcending hardware: home or portable devices. Metal Gear will be on many platforms.
Soon all gaming devices will have their own built in LCD screen. PSP & PS Vita does this with PS3, Wii U does this, Smartglass does this with 360. Nvidia does this with Project Shield.
Heck I even use my PSP 3000 as a home console by hooking it up with my 46" Samsung.
Mobile gaming ( tablets , phones) will never replace Console gaming because they are two different markets.
probably not the right word to use in your subject. Case in point, people often said laptops would always be a step behind desktops and yet the desktop market now is nothing like it was 10 years ago.
it would seem that laptops have reached that point of being the desktop replacement AND offer the convenience of mobility that a desktop cant offer.
Now i should point out that perhaps there will be a convergence of what amounts to a mobile device that doubles as a console. That idea is very possible and has been done several times in the gaming market. From units like the turboexpress (portable turbografx) and nomad (portable genesis) to dedicated mobile devices that can plug into a tv to play (such as the psp 2000/3000 and GO).
At some point there wont be a "console" like we think but it will be a console when connected to a tv via direct output or a docking station. And it will have all the power it needs to display HD graphics and use traditional controls but when you want to take it with you, just disconnect and you can continue to play the same game on the move.
Tablets and phones with tv out and bluetooth connectivity are bridging that gap. Maybe we shouldnt chastise the mobility market so much because as with everything else, things do get smaller and better over time.
What is important here is how is consoles going to differentiate itself from mobile?
Will mobile eventually close the gap (not just in graphics, but also in use and convenience). Sometimes it is not about meeting or exceeding if it is close enough.
Think we'll get at least 3 more console gens yet if not more before some new radical gaming device is made.
Its meant for idiots.
You know...those dummies that keep talking about "the end of consoles...."
I know what Dr Gregory House would say about these people though.
I'm all for the big screen immersive experience that consoles and PC provide. That feeling isn't going away.
Yeah I dabble with games on my iPhone... when on the toilet, or a train, or away from home. But that's all.
It doesnt even matter cuz as long as i get great exclusives, i will support sony for as long as i am a gamer.. Nintendo is second because of zelda, metroid, & the odd but magical fun i have competing in mario karts n smash bros.. MS really does nothing for me.. Great 3rd party support & great network but over flooded with western titles that can also be found on PS so theres nothing there that interests me.. Not paying $60/yr for online play either