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Submitted by Godchild1020 599d ago | news

'No chance' for Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 on Wii U

Coming from producer David Cox, when asked about Lords of Shadow 2 on Wii U.

Sorry to disappoint you but no chance. (Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2, Wii U)

Credit url: gonintendo.com
majiebeast  +   599d ago
Doesnt look very good for wiiu with the third party support. If they cant even get games now i doubt we will see ports of ps4 and xbox next games on it.
jimbobwahey  +   599d ago
Anybody with sense saw this coming a mile off. They got third party support at launch because developers could shovel some old ports onto the system quickly but as the Wii, GameCube and N64 demonstrated, third party games do not sell on Nintendo hardware and once again third party publishers are abandoning Nintendo.

I can't believe people actually expected it to be different this time round, nevermind that some were crazy enough to think third party support would continue once the next PlayStation and Xbox release.
phantomexe  +   599d ago
OK it's not that i care all that much but i'm going use some common sense or alittle logic. These games like CV have been in delopment for a while so one would think that starting delopment on another game being it's not so easy to port games staight to the wii u..... would cost more time. Just seems preety simple as i remember ff13.

You guys love to get your panties in a bunch....My bad jimbob this was ment for all.
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I_am_Batman  +   599d ago
I agree. I thought that Nintendo could get more third party support early on. They miss out on some important third party games like Bioshock Infinite. If Nintendo can't get these third party games they probably won't get the hardcore gamers. It will be interessting to see if games like Bayonetta 2 (exclusive to Wii-U) will sell at all on a Nintendo console.
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scissor_runner  +   599d ago
The better question is will it come to the Grid by nvidia.

All of the sudden nintendo doesn't need direct ports just ports from other services like Nvidia's grid.

I mean come on not many people can afford 200 teraflop gaming. This service along makes the power struggle a moot point.

After tvii you can see nintendo is open to this model and The GRID is license-able.

Out of all the cloud gaming services I think Nvida may have the right idea...
jmc8888  +   598d ago
I laugh at the ignorance, short memory, and overall mindless assertions people are laying at the feet of the Wii U.

See maybe most of you were stuck playing PS2/xbox when their successors came out. But when they did.....there were games...for the same reason...came out on PS2 and XBOX and NOT 360 or PS3.

Did you get that? Do I need to repeat it? Which means the same thing will happen on what? Wii U?

...and what? PS4 and 720.

So why is the Wii U doomed for having the same problems EVERY console has?

Please people, use your brains and try to remember the past....it wasn't that long ago.

It's simple business. 200 million or so consoles/PC's OR 2 million Wii U's. Which one is a company light on funds...i.e. these days MOST small and mid size devs....going to focus on?

Same thing will happen as games are passed over 720/PS4 to be made on 360/PS3. Because making it on the other system too soon might destroy the dev. It will happen.

People are fools if they think the 720/PS4 will be much stronger than the Wii U. It's simply impossible. But don't tell that to the people who don't understand hardware. They won't believe you. To them the past is prologue.

They can't see a situation where PC's use 700-1500 watts of power and 1000-2000 in parts to achieve what it does.

They think they can put those parts in a small little box and somehow it'll only draw 250 watts and only cost $400. ROFL. Keep dreaming. Oh and they're going to throw in a Kinect 2 with hand manipulator...yet combined with thousands of dollars of PC tech....it'll only cost $399 and the MS talked with GOD and said...GOD we need this to only use 250 watts...we can't pack 700-1500 into a small little box without having RROD style issues.

Fact is, Wii U won't be far behind. It's bang for the buck. Want something more powerful? It's going to cost exponentially more and use exponentially more power. In other words...lots more money and lots more power....for not much more performance.

Wii U will be fine, and some people need to know the limits of hardware, and simple business 101.
Godchild1020  +   599d ago
I agree with others on twitter, why bring the prequel to the 3DS and not bring the sequel to Nintendo's home console.
TimeSkipLuffy  +   599d ago
I guess the 3DS version is simply no port but has been developed with less costs. That is why developers like the DS system. It's cheap & fast to develop for. And still sell good. While for the Vita the dev costs could be higher than what they could possibly earn... T__T
jaosobno  +   599d ago
The reason is simple. 3DS is a successful handheld. WiiU software attach rate is horrible and 3rd parties already started giving up on it.
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chukamachine  +   599d ago
3ds is only a successful handheld because it had to go cheap enough for those with a ds to upgrade to a 3ds.

If the 3ds did not play ds games, it would not have sold.
sdozzo  +   599d ago
Money
Catoplepas  +   599d ago
My commiserations to any Wii U only owners.

Still, can't wait for the game. The original was terrific.
sdozzo  +   599d ago
Yeah, I loved the first one. Can't wait.
BanBrother  +   599d ago
Terrific. Funny word. Did you know that the word means very good, whilst another meaning for it is the exact opposite; very bad/unpleasant. The more you know.

Sucks for Wii U only owners, but I think that the tables will turn (or at least the sad faces will) when HD Zelda and Metroid come out.

The Wii U looks to be in a bad position, as Devs want to push out their games for the 360 and PS3 with large install bases, whilst also looking into next gen (PS3-360).

Early days, but still funny considering I played most of the Castlevania's on a Nintendo system.
OmegaSlayer  +   599d ago
I won't commiserate WiiU owners, because every single one of them is happy for their Marios, Zeldas and whatevs, so...who cares.
Besides the point that I never really liked any Nintendo characters and games I don't think a console deserves to be bought without at least 5 games/franchise you can play on it.

I died to play Mass Effect 1 and the Gears Of War trilogy but it wasn't enough to justify the purchase of a 360 imho and I don't care about jaggies or missing pixels...so, I guess early WiiU adopters know that their system will collect dust except when Nintendo games will come out.

If they have the money to shill, why should I care or commiserate?
ZoidsRaven  +   599d ago
........... And they want Nintendo gamers to buy the 3ds LOS game? LOL WUT? -_-'
I will, but only because I have a PS3. Not all Nintendo gamers have a PS3 (or a 360).
If 3rd party devs want Nintendo fans/gamers money they should stop treating them like they only deserve spin-offs, sloppy ports and remakes, because not all of them are muti-brand gamers.
I'll buy the two games for my 3ds and PS3 (hope it's fun), but 3rd parties have got to stop that (it's just as bad as Capcom's RE 'tests' on the Wii).

Fin.. 7_7
Godchild1020  +   599d ago
I wonder how well will the 3DS version do (I expect a million at least), seeing how the sequel won't make it onto Nintendo's home console.

Will the lack of sales, if it doesn't do well, force them to port it over to the Vita or the PSN/XBLA and Eshop to make up any loses?

I guess the real question is, will it really play a part on how well the 3DS version sells? The game is releasing way ahead of the home consoles version, so I don't expect to have a real major effect.
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ZoidsRaven  +   599d ago
If that's what Konami is trying to do with Castlevania for the 3ds, they should just learn from Capcom's example.

If it's successful the first time (not that I think Konami will be as successful as Capcom's RE 'tests' for the Wii), stop the tests.... 7_7
Smashbro29  +   599d ago
Call me when they make a real Castlevania game.
RogueStatus28  +   599d ago
Mirror of Fate for the 3DS.
PS4isKing_82  +   599d ago
I kinda figured this would happen but I'm not mad.
I know Nintendo will come through with their own games like always and will amaze everyone.
I love my wiiU dearly and can't wait for all the awesome Nintendo games coming for it over the years.

I just know the whole gaming world is gunna explode with excitement once we see the first footage and screenshots of a true HD Mario, zelda, donkey long and more.
I'm getting excited just typing this lol XD :)

I dont think I've been this excited for Nintendo since the n64 days.
OmegaSlayer  +   599d ago
Lovely MetalGearRising avatar, has it been announced for WiiU too? :p

Are you sure the whole gaming World would explode?
Nintendo's franchise are getting really stale and are bought more for affection and nostalgia than for actual quality imho.

(I still have to figure out what's good in Mario games and I grew up with MegaMan, Sonic and countless platforms that I found way better than Mario)
StarCSR  +   599d ago
Not knowing what's good about Mario, but loving Sonic? OH wait... We got ourselves an oldschool Sega fanboy :)

Someone who says that Nintendo's franchises are only bought for affection and nostalgia, can only justify something like that by adminitting that he didn't play Mario Galaxy, DC Country Returns, Metroid Prime or Skyward Sword.
OmegaSlayer  +   599d ago
LOL
I had both a Snes and a Genesis, a Gamecube, a PS2 and a Dreamcast.
So...yeah...fanboy LOL
Of all the Nintendo games I played I enjoyed only Super Metrod and Donkey Kong Country.
Stop.
If you asked me why I had a Snes, well...it was for the Squaresoft titles.
I don't like Nintendo games and characters, is it a crime?
Oh, I don't like Disney stuff and I side with Wyle Coyote...guess I'm a sinner and will go to hell.

@masterCornolio below

The top 4 of the games you mentioned had gadget/add-ons/stuff that was promoted to expand/enhance the motion experience, that's why they sold so much ;)

Anyway...yes you are 100% right about 3rd parties.
I don't find it appealing as even on PS3 and 360 the best games are often made by 3rd parties.
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MilkMan  +   599d ago
This is a TERRIBLE disappointing and it makes no sense what so ever.
However, on the other hand it does make sense.
The more Wii U are in consumers homes the more of an incentive it becomes to make games for the console. This is a point of fact. Also if Nintendo adopted a more capitalist approach to game making like Microsoft does then perhaps lots of ports and new games would make their way to the Wii U.
Meaning, if they (Nintendo) paid developers to bring their games to console. Rather than sway them with amazing install base (which at this juncture are poultry)
ElectricKaibutsu  +   599d ago
I know it's an honest mistake but that "which at this juncture are poultry" really made me laugh :).

I agree. No one knows how many Wii Us will be in people's homes by the time this game gets released. If I were a third party I'd be hesitant to invest a bunch of money in the system too. Honestly I didn't expect games already in development to suddenly decide to add the Wii U in the middle of their development cycle.
Jadedz  +   599d ago
Smh -_-
Wow... it's a broken record with Nintendo and 3rd party support. Now I get the feeling that Nintendo meant ''indies'' when they announced that the Wii U would receive better support.

Maybe the Wii U's user base isn't at the level Konami wants it to be :(.
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Angainor7  +   599d ago
What the f**k is happening with the wii u? is it really that slow? why the developers don't support it? What about next gen ports... i really don't understand shit...
corrus  +   599d ago
Yes it's really so slow
MasterCornholio  +   599d ago
@OmegaSlayer
As long as Wii U owners get their Marios they wont care about 3rd party support for the Wii U. I mean just look what happened to the Wii the Nintendo franchises sold boat loads while 3rd party games stunk in comparison. Nintendo fans only care about Nintendo games and thats proven by the lack luster sales of 3rd party games on the platform.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Wii
"Wii Sports (79.60 million)[2]**
Mario Kart Wii (32.44 million)[2][3]*
Wii Sports Resort (30.14 million)[2]*
Wii Play (28.02 million)[4][5]*
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (26.26 million)[2]**
Wii Fit (22.67 million)[4]*
Wii Fit Plus (20.48 million)[2]
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (10.79 million)[4]
Super Mario Galaxy (10.68 million)[2]
Wii Party (7.94 million)[2]
Mario Party 8 (7.6 million)[6]
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (7.09 million)[7]
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (6.36 million)[8]
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (5.82 million)[9]
Just Dance 2 (5 million)[10]
Donkey Kong Country Returns (4.98 million)[8]
Link's Crossbow Training (4.80 million)[5]*
Just Dance (4.3 million)[11]
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (3.52 million)[2]
Animal Crossing: City Folk (3.38 million)[12]*"

360

Kinect Adventures 18 million
Call of Duty: Black Ops 16.4 million
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 13.7 million
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 12.9 million
Halo 3 8.1 million
Skyrim 5.9 million
Gears of War 5 million
Gears of War 2 5 million
Grand Theft Auto IV 4.362 million
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 4.211 million
Fable II 3.5 million
Call of Duty: World at War 3.35 million
Halo: Reach 3.3 million
Gears of War 3 3 million
Halo 3: ODST 3 million
Minecraft 4 million

PS3

Gran Turismo 5 (9.19 million)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (5.35 million)
God of War III (5,197,632)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (4.8 million)
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (3.8 million)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (3.8 million)
MotorStorm (3.31 million)
Call of Duty: Black Ops (3.269 million units)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (3 million approximately)
LittleBigPlanet (3 million)
Final Fantasy XIII (2.89 million approximately)
Grand Theft Auto IV (2.73 million approximately)
Skyrim (2.7 million)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (2.6 million)
Resistance: Fall of Man (2.5 million)
God of War Collection (2,418,516)
Killzone 2 (2 million)[167]
inFamous (nearly 2 million)[168]
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (1.977 million approximately)
Call of Duty: World at War (1.83 million approximately)

Theres nothing wrong with Nintendo selling boat loads of first party games on the Wii but because of this many 3rd party devs prefer to release their games for the PS3 and the 360 due to the increase in sales that they achieve on those 2 platforms.

P.S Dang i replied to the wrong comment sorry about this.

P.S.S Dang i hate seeing casual crap and Call of Duty so many times on those lists. Its a shame that some terrible games sell extremely well while the some good ones (like Vanquish) stink at sales.
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ZeekQuattro  +   599d ago
Vanquish is an awesome game. I got it after playing Binary Domain its spiritual successor. Both are really great Sega games.
ronin4life  +   599d ago
It just came out and doesn't have the install base to 100% guarantee success for games released on it to outweigh the cost of said games... many of which were in development long before wiiu came around anyway. That the 3ds, which is entering its 2nd year is getting an entry at the same time kind of shows how long this has been in development: probably since early-mid 2011, before wiiu dev kits were in everyones hands.

This is NOT a new trend in gaming and is not a wiiu specific problem. This happens every console launch... and it is infuriating to see people repeat the same tired idiodic crap just to make a company they hate for no actual logical reason look bad to people lacking in the knowledge of the industry... or sometimes just plain common sense.

@DOMination
And there have been devs coming out in support of it as well... SE, Capcom and Tecmo have come out in recent weeks to say they have stuff in the works, with small devs like renegade kid voicing support as well.

All of which is promptly ignored however...
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sdozzo  +   599d ago
Any date on the release?
onyoursistersback  +   599d ago
"Yeah buddy..... CAN'T YOU READ?!?! Never on in the wii!!!
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DOMination-  +   599d ago
It seems like an almost daily occurrence now, that a developer is coming out and saying they aren't releasing a WiiU version of their game. They may be waiting for a bigger install base, but nobody is going to buy the console if there aren't any games out for it. Catch-22.

Looks like the WiiU will be heavily relying on first party again. We all know that will be quality but for somebody on the fence like myself, I'm kinda hoping Nintendo release something new. I'm just not excited by the prospect of another new Mario or Zelda, good though I'm sure they will be. I want to play something new.
TongkatAli  +   599d ago
The Vita is getting more third party support then the Wii U.
G-cis  +   599d ago
i think lack 3rd party support for nintendo consoles already becaome a tradition now
ronin4life  +   599d ago
It really isn't...
If anything they are nearly even. But the fact that one can make that kind of comparison says far more of the year old Vita than it does the 2 month old wiiu.
ZeekQuattro  +   599d ago
I love how you try to plug the failed Vita in every article. You may be right but then no one owns the Vita. Have they even sold 4 million units yet? The PSP is still outselling it. Hell even the DS still is. Pretty pathetic.
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TongkatAli  +   599d ago
Sales derpppppppppp!
Chrono  +   599d ago
LOL this is like the ???th article about developers not supporting the Wii U.
XXXL  +   599d ago
Because they aren't
LOL_WUT  +   599d ago
And they have a reason not to ;)
PopRocks359  +   599d ago
@LOL_WUT

Not really. If a 360 game can be adequately ported to the Wii U, then there really is no reason not to release it. Especially when Ubisoft has already said that porting to the Wii U is relatively cheap.
megamanX2  +   599d ago
why exactly would Nintendo want this crap on their new system anyway? Wake me when they make a real castlevaina game, and i mean the sequel to the ps1 game.

"The Vita is getting more third party support then the WiiU."

lol yeah that's why everyone is ignoring it.
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Inception  +   599d ago
After Crysis 3 now this? Well i had a PS3 and a 3DS so i will enjoy LoS 2 and MoF.
DivineAssault  +   599d ago
once again, another game with no chance of going on wii u.. What exactly are they getting thats core again? i know they got a few ports from EA & Ubisoft but i dont see much of anything incoming.. The wii u is a joke when it comes to 3rd party love.. 1st party games always end up really good but publishers dont want to risk taking a loss on it
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YoungPlex  +   599d ago
It's quite alright, I'll be picking it up on my PS3 or 360 either way seeing as it's a multi-plat! However, I'll be getting Castlevania Lords of Shadow-Mirrors of Fate, exclusively on the 3DS! Not enough people nor time has past for these games to be brought to the Wii U. Once 3-6 months go by and it becomes more established, third-party will be all over it!
DrugAddict-  +   599d ago
It seems like every developer that wants people to talk about them just says they won't support the Wii U cause it has a slow processor or some shit..
I bet you they just don't feel like porting a game that they already worked on for the 360 and the PS3..

Maybe new games that will come out for next gen consoles will come out for the Wii U too
Hanso  +   599d ago
i can assure you when next gen rolls in aka ps4 and next xbox the wii u will get even less multiplats than now -which means nothing..
krazykombatant  +   599d ago
Goes to show that developers are too damn lazy to do something with the gamepad, the potential is definitely there it just needs to be tapped.
Tzunoy  +   599d ago
They deserve this they stole our Bayoneta 2.
Kevlar009  +   599d ago
I think you mean "saved"
StarCSR  +   599d ago
You mean that game that wasn't coming out until Nintendo decided to make a run for it?
PopRocks359  +   599d ago
@Tzunoy

Learn the full story and blame Sega. You know, the ones who initially cancelled Bayonetta 2.
BlackWolf  +   599d ago
What? There's still someone saying that? Please...
Thepcz  +   599d ago
lol who gives a shit, when was the last great castlevania game?
early 90s??

wack, they can keep the game, nintendo users DEMAND the highest of quality, not hot garbage like castlevania.

most pretentious series ever.
Kevlar009  +   599d ago
Everyone is afraid to release games on Nintendo home consoles, which is a shame. Wii became a death trap because of a lack of cutting edge graphics and a first year dominated solely by party games. Bayonetta 2 will be the first test, that while still published by Nintendo, is from a team based in Xbox and PS, a series not birthed on Nintendo

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy really. Games don't sell because there isn't the audience, there isn't an audience because there aren't any games to sell to them. The most interesting thing to me about the Wii was that the best games came from Nintendo, most others were lackluster at best.

There is a saying if you build it they will come, and sadly no one is building. Until more companies takes a risk, we may never know what the WiiU is capable of. It will be interesting to see what Microsoft and Sony deliver next
wiiulee  +   599d ago
its not no chance haters...like capcom says they want to actually built the game from the ground up for the wiiu to take advantage of all its innovation and not bring out a half bake game.
1upgamer99  +   599d ago
I agree with you. Just like Ubisoft is not going to bring Raman Legends to other systems, but is being Built specifically for Wii U. The other systems just can not do what Wii U is doing with that game in particular. Trine 2 is one port that has really shown what developers can do with Wii U. Port or not. http://www.forbes.com/sites...
I think as far as Legends perhaps Ubisoft might be able to do it on Vita.
BitbyDeath  +   599d ago
Probably cause of the tablet.
Nintendo should have just gone with a normal controller.
Hicken  +   599d ago
I think it's a little sad that people think the gamepad WON'T turn some devs away. While it does have abilities that the PS3/360 controllers DON'T have, since the other two systems have controllers with virtually identical function sets- and since they have a combined install base of about 140 million- developing for these two and not investing money in a Wii U version that may need to be radically different(due to the controller), require an extra accessory(like the classic), or simply not sell enough to make it worthwhile.

If the thing at least shipped with a classic controller, I imagine about half as many devs would be saying "no" at this point.
gpturbo81  +   599d ago
didnt realize there were this many time travelers on this site. 2 months in and you guys are already writing off third party support. to be honest nintendo hasn't announced jack shit, so unless you work for all these third party developers, why so much premature flapping of the gums?
AO1JMM  +   599d ago
Never planned on getting the game anyway.

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