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Ex-WipEout dev casts doubt over future instalments, discusses new project

VG247: WipEout may not make a comeback following Sony Studio Liverpool’s unexpected closure last year. That’s the prediction of ex-WipEout developer Nick Burscombe, whose new studio Playrise releases it’s first game on iOS Table Top Racing later this month. The developer has given VG247 insight into his time with the WipEout franchise and his new game in a new interview.

zerocrossing4125d ago

Im frankly disgusted with MS and Sony closing great studios left right and centre like this, Wipeout was amazing and the devs deserved better.

Hingle_Mcringleberry4125d ago

Extremely so. They made perfectly good games. SONY should have made them do something else if WipeOut had become commercially unviable.

jimbobwahey4125d ago

I consider Wipeout HD to be one of the best games of this console generation, but I can see why the studio was closed. Sony never advertised Wipeout HD so nobody knew about it and subsequently nobody bought it either.

It's a tragedy because they had some of the most talented people in the industry working there. F1:CE was a great launch showcase of the PS3, and to this day is still one of the most graphically impressive racing games around, with hands-down the most realistic lighting engine yet seen combined with a buttery smooth framerate. Codemasters are yet to make an F1 game that comes close.

Wipeout HD was a technical marvel, one of few true 1080p native 60fps games combined with unrivaled art direction and some of the most impressive visuals in the genre. These games were terrific fun yes, but they demonstrated some of the most impressive technical wizardry in the industry and still today are shining examples of what the PS3 can do.

Unfortunately though, I don't think people will miss the franchise. Wipeout HD and Twisted Metal have been the highlights of the PS3's library for me personally, but nobody really bought these games and as such, both franchises are pretty much dead now and the car combat genre along with them.

VonBraunschweigg4125d ago

Well said. I've been a WipEout fan since 2097 and I remember waiting for news, any news about WipEout HD back in 2007 and early 2008. Not a thing, untill septmber...one week before release. No advertisement, no retailversion, not many reviews. Thankfully enough players for a small but dedicated community, and it's still being played.

Quite unbelievable for a flagship franchise like WipEout. I still consider it as the best downloadable game on PSN, and the Fury update the best DLC ever. Besides Starhawk's free mappacks:)

Still hoping for WipEout on PS4, somewhere within SCE there should still be some common sense. PlayStation is WipEout and WipEout is PlayStation, dammit!

Knushwood Butt4125d ago

If the secret to great game sales is simply to 'advertise', I think publishers would have caught on by now.

Some franchises need to come to an end. That's why we're seeing so many reboots these days. Wipeout HD may have been good quality but the fundamental gameplay hasn't changed since the PS1 days.

Not everyone can get away with that.

ritsuka6664125d ago (Edited 4125d ago )

Sony closure this amazing studio for hired Superbot devs..Sony, have you lost your minds?

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Bryan5744125d ago

Should have closed Guerilla games before Studio Liverpool... Shame.

first1NFANTRY4125d ago

no! they should just keep all the first party devs. frankly i was very satisfied with Wipout HD

Sizzon4125d ago

Lol why Guerilla Games?

the Killzone series is great

PirateThom4125d ago

Wipeout will be released. Sony use it as a showcase piece for new hardware. The developer name may change but, correct me if I'm wrong, weren't a lot of employees moved to other studios?

Sizzon4125d ago

Didn't SCE Liverpool merge with Evolution Studios, the guys who made the Motorstorm games?

redDevil874125d ago

Yes they did.

Evolution Studios are currently hiring for a new project. Job advertisement is on the PlayStation website.

Darth Stewie4125d ago

Yup & yet people forget this fact just look at the comments above.

P_Bomb4125d ago

Exactly.

Furthermore did Halo or COD die without Bungie or Infinity Ward? Did God of War die without David Jaffe, or MaxPayne without Sam Lake?

WipEout can easily live on. Credit to Liverpool, but they only released 1 PS3 game this gen. Lets not act like Sony just closed Santa Monica. Even Sly4 is being done sans SuckerPunch, and I doubt anybody could spot the difference. I'm not worried. Sony owns the blueprint.

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Sony, What Happened To Wipeout?

Will we ever see more of Sony’s futuristic racing franchise?

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PSNghost881714d ago

Better question. What happened to Ridge Racer? LOL

darthv721714d ago

That's better suited to ask Namco, not Sony.

Forn1714d ago

Better question, what happened with Motorstorm?!

darthv721714d ago

I would absolutely LOVE a motorstorm collection. All 5 games in one package.
Motorstorm
Motorstorm Pacific Rift (my favorite)
Motorstorm Apocalypse
Motorstorm Arctic Edge
Motorstorm RC

himdeel1713d ago

Sony Liverpool was shut down, that's what happened. Ask harder questions.

DillyDilly1713d ago

Better question what happened with Twisted Metal ?

KickSpinFilter1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

Ya that would be awesome but highly unlikely, it’s a little messed up while Driveclub started out lousy all the server and updates ended up making one fabulous racer. Developer was able to turn around Days Gone into a pretty good game not sure why Driveclub did not get that chance also

neutralgamer19921713d ago

sony has way too many IP's that's what happened

King_Noctis1713d ago

Even better question, what happen to Twisted Metal?

So many great exclusives that I hope Sony bring back for the PS5.

jivah1713d ago

Why get a motorstorm collection that will look like ass when we can get a new installment properly developed that will have brand new maps, vehicles and mechanics as well as legacy ones.

VTKC1713d ago

wow imagine if they did a motorstorm with VR compatible like wipeout! Would be insane! With all the dirt and mud flying in all directions and looking to the side or any direction to see the other competitiors while racing around the track and the sense of speed when you decide to hit the nitros! They got to do this!

Sevir1713d ago

Evolution shut down after Driveclub didn't make money.

The Wood1713d ago

Who owns the ips for motor storm and twisted metal? Can't they be reborn

Forn1713d ago

I should have stated that I already know Evolution was shut down. Despite that, Sony could give the IP to another studio if they wanted. I realize that Apocalypse didn't sell very well, but that was due to circumstances beyond Evolution's control. I feel like Evo should have at least started this gen off with a Motorstorm series remaster before they went on to Driveclub to help get their feet wet with the new hardware. Might have helped them be better prepared in creating Driveclub.

dumahim1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

better question, why Motorstorm?

/Drax

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S2Killinit1714d ago

What happened to Wipeout is that the games only logical and natural evolution involves VR. Which Sony has already introduced to test out people’s reaction. If enough people are actually interested, then we will get the next Wipeout. Otherwise I think there are a lot of people out there who remember the franchise fondly, but wouldnt be will to fork out full price for it. Lets see if Wipeout VR will turn the franchise into its glory days when the fast paced racer was a unique offering.

Simple really. Nothing happened to it except time.

LoveSpuds1713d ago

The first PSVR experience I had that made me feel dizzy and nauseous, I was pretty gutted about it because it looked amazing and very immersive.

quent1713d ago

Not everyone cares about tedious VR, how's Psyognis doing these days btw ?

S2Killinit1713d ago

Not everyone needs to care. Not everyone cared about games either. But here we are.

FinalFantasyFanatic1713d ago

I would love a new Ridge Racer, but the series has fallen off the earth somehow.

fr0sty1713d ago

Wipeout is in great shape, finally released in VR, the way it was meant to be played.

PressPlayBros1713d ago

RIIIIIIIIIDDDDGGEEE RRRAAAAAAAAACEERRRRRRRRRR

Matrix61713d ago

I'll do you one better, Why is Gamora?

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IRetrouk1714d ago

They shut down the studio that makes the game.

DaDrunkenJester1714d ago

How dare they. What happened to Motorstorm?

0hMyGandhi1714d ago

I really miss Motorstorm :(

NiteX1714d ago

They also shut down that studio and most of them went to Codemasters that made Onrush which sold horribly.

DaDrunkenJester1714d ago

Aww man, what about the Twisted Metal and Warhawk devs? Are they still around?

KyRo1714d ago

I miss Motorstorm too. I miss cinematic racers in general. Split Second, Motorstorm Apocalypse, even NFS the Run. Racing with earthquakes, avalanches, tsunamis, police, bombs etc was thrilling. No everything is a boring sim/semi sim. We ain't allowed fun with racers anymore

KickSpinFilter1713d ago

What happened to Crackdown 3?

DaDrunkenJester1713d ago

@kickspin

It got made and released? Lol what do you mean?

Sevir1713d ago

Driveclub Developer Evolution shut down because Driveclub didn't make them money.

They were planning on supporting Driveclub while also working on a new Motorstorm. That got scrapped after DCVR update released and the chopping axe came down on the studio.

They went on to become a Codemasters's subsidiary called "Evo"and put out Onrush, which was a spiritual successor to Motorstorm. But it sold horribly and Codemasters shuttered Evo for good.

Bad management from the get go of The PS4 generation. Lead to a great team being liquidated. :(

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King Nezz1714d ago

They lost me with that decision.

IRetrouk1714d ago (Edited 1714d ago )

Have you got a point or is it just a wee trolling session mate?

DaDrunkenJester1714d ago

Just a little bit of trolling, but in all honesty I do love these games and it is a shame they aren't around anymore.

IRetrouk1714d ago

Personally didnt like wipeout, just couldn't get into it, I'm sure if there is a demand a new one will be made, who knows what they have planned.

DaDrunkenJester1713d ago

I loved the collection that recently came out and then coupled that with some PSVR support made it even better.

IRetrouk1713d ago

Glad you enjoyed it man, I hope they make another for the fans, nothing worse than really wanting a game that isn't coming.

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Exvalos1714d ago

It got a complete remaster and vr support, soooooo what you talking bout Willis

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1743d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1742d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1742d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1742d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1742d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1742d ago (Edited 1742d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1742d ago (Edited 1742d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1742d ago (Edited 1742d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1742d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1742d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121742d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1742d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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Three WipEout servers to the wiped out in March 2018

Alongside the death of the Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 servers, Sony will be shutting down the online services of three WipEout Games in 2018 for PS3 and Vita.

Aenea2314d ago

How's this even possible? I thought Sony didn't have dedicated servers according to a certain crowd?

Gazondaily2314d ago

LOL are you somehow trying to blame Xbox fans for this or what? Sony didn't have dedicated servers?

Prince_TFK2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

Yeah we blame Xbox fans for Sony not having dedicated servers.

In the future we will also blame them for cancer.

/s.

UKRsoldja2314d ago

Non-dedicated servers can still be shut down. Not that hard to understand.

Aenea2313d ago

LOL, what is there to shutdown? Is Sony going around people's homes to shutdown the peer to peer hosted games?

Seems you do have issues with understanding...

UKRsoldja2313d ago (Edited 2313d ago )

The matchmaking software side of things, genius. Matchmaking servers can and have been shut down before, leaving you with no functional multiplayer.

Try researching next time before posting nonsense.

Aenea2313d ago

Well, genius, Killzone has actual dedicated servers, not just matchmaking ones. So before calling someone out on doing research, why don't you?

NarooN2314d ago

Damn even the Vita gets hit?

Reminds me of the 6th console gen when tons of servers for awesome games got shut down anywhere from 2 to 4 years after they initially launched.

Better enjoy whatever games' online components you can while you can before they get wiped out of existence.

Teflon022314d ago

wish they'd rerelease White Knight Chronicles 2 on PS4 so I can play online again. That game was amazing

VariantAEC2313d ago

Wait! Sony exclusive games had dedicated servers?
Killzone 2 and 3 and now WipEout!
We know Resistance 1-3 had dedicated servers as well as GT 5-6 and MAG and Uncharted 2 and 3 and ao on and so forth.
As far as I know non-dedicated servers cannot be shutdown on Sony platforms until Sony stops hosting the game services on the platform. So when Sony stops supporting matchmaking via PSN on PS3 then those games without dedicated servers will be shut down... I did my research UKRsoldja