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Submitted by Citizen_King 469d ago | rumor

Sony’s Used Game Patent Could Also Include the Next Xbox

GOS: "Sony issued the patent first, so of course all eyes are now on them. The next Xbox and PS4 was rumored to block used games last year, but no real evidence has surfaced of Microsoft‘s next generation console containing the technology to do so. If Microsoft wanted to block used games on the next Xbox the company wouldn’t have to look very far." (Dev, Industry, Microsoft, Next-Gen, Sony)

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MultiConsoleGamer  +   469d ago
It's funny because people claimed the Next Box would block used games. Then the chairman of GameStop strangely made a public statement that it definitely would not.

Meanwhile, a rumor spreads that PS4 will block used games and GameStop's stock goes tumbling down.

Something is up.
GribbleGrunger  +   469d ago
What's up is that Gamestop's stock went down BEFORE this announcement but the media took the opportunity to link the two events.
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animegamingnerd  +   469d ago
they're the media they pull crap like that all the time
bakasora  +   469d ago
Time to invest more on steam.
animegamingnerd  +   469d ago
i bet the chairman of gamestop lied to calm the storm if he or she knows anything about the next playstation and xbox is that they exist and release date
nukeitall  +   469d ago
The only thing up is unfortunately this article!

I doubt Sony or MS will be blocking used games. It would severely hurt them. It was bad enough when Sony dropped BC and Linux support so I doubt neither of them would do something as stupid as this, especially at launch.

Anyone of them try this and I will drop them like a freaking hot turd!
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DeadlyFire  +   469d ago
this is just a renewal of the Online Pass system for Sony products already in place I bet.

Sony originally filled this in 2006 and renewing in 2012 possible to add PS4 to the end of the patent.
Saigon  +   468d ago
Based on the complaints of the developers...I doubt this is false. Most devs hate the fact they cannot make money off of second hand sales. They don't like the fact that this issue exist. I can understand especially if you look at it from a pharmaceutical stand point. Would you as a customer want to use needles and syringes another patient used. No...And its not about profit. This helps against piracy, though someone will find a way around it, and many other issues publishers complain about. This move, though sony is taking a bash from it, is something that the industry wants and needs.
nukeitall  +   468d ago
@Saigon:

The industry most definitely does not need it, they probably want it though.

I haven't met a single consumer that think this is a great idea.

"I can understand especially if you look at it from a pharmaceutical stand point. Would you as a customer want to use needles and syringes another patient used."

Really? You wouldn't reuse syringes/needles because once used they can carry dangerous disease that might kill you!

Do used video games transmit deadly diseases? No? Hardly the same then, uh?

"No...And its not about profit."

Really? What is it about then? Good will towards the consumers? Charity for all video gamers in the world?

"They don't like the fact that this issue exist."

BECAUSE IT HAMPERS "THEM" THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER PROFIT BEYOND THEIR FAIR SHARE.

"This helps against piracy, though someone will find a way around it, and many other issues publishers complain about."

This scheme will minimally have any impact against piracy and have everything to do with used games.
jammy_70   469d ago | Offensive
majiebeast  +   469d ago
The only way there is gonna be a block on used games is if the big 3 and 75% of the big publishers are on board, i dont see Sony lonewolfing it.
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BanBrother  +   469d ago
Sony could easily pull it off for their first party games, as no-one would boycott them. The problem is the third parties going along with it.
The online pass for Resistance 3 is ana example, except now it would be blocking the entire game.

Tbh, I think this will eventually happen with Sony,MS and Nintendo, but not next gen, as they are both trying to win over the Wii U ATM.
Not sure if Resistance 3 is a great example, it didn't necessarily set the charts on fire. UC3 is a good fit though.
MASTER_RAIDEN  +   469d ago
I dare sony, microsoft or any other company to try and pull this off.

see if any of you ever see a dollar of mine ever again.
dboyc310  +   469d ago
Many purchase game at retail price and don't mind. Doubt it will stop them. The majority won't care. Just like when they didn't care when they cut out a lot of the features the original ps3 had. I for sure can careless. It's not like I just buy any random shovelware that I can find at a local gamestop.
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rainslacker  +   468d ago
@dboy

It may not be that they don't care, it'll likely be that they don't know. They would care when they take that game in to trade it for a new one, or try to sell it on their own, and come to realize that they are stuck with it. The publishers have been doing a lot this gen to restrict (or at least recoup money from) used game sales. However this going into effect is going to have a huge effect on the industry as a whole, and I think the industry is going to be in for a surprise when it doesn't work out the way they are hoping.
GribbleGrunger  +   469d ago
I'm throwing this out there because it seems that no one has thought about it:

Everyone is complaining that if this patent is implemented, it would mean the end of second hand games, loaning games out or taking the game to a friends house to play. What if, when you first put the disc into your PS3, the ID automatically gets associated with your user account -- rather like trophies.

This means you would still be able to take that game to a friends house and play it because all you would have to do is use your account on his/her PS3. It would also mean that replacing your PS3 would not forfeit your right to play that same game disc. It would also mean that Sony could give you a digital copy of the game based on your purchase of the disc. This way only the second hand market is effected. I was going to write an article along these lines but I really couldn't be bothered.
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What about when I wanna swap games with my buddy for the weekend?
Also, I'm new to owning a PS3, how do I transfer my profile on to a flash drive so I can go play using it at my buddy's place? And can two people log in at the same time on one console like you can on the 360? I've been trying but just can't get it to work, help me.
slaton24  +   469d ago
no flash needed just go to ur friends ps3 go to create new user and go to where u sign in and then u enter ur infomation in and u r ready...but if u do this u want have room for another system with ur original account only 2 systems can be used with the same account...if u needed a 3rd u would have to deactivate a system or call sony...back when it was 5 systems people gameshared which made sony a little mad cause people would buy games and let other people download it from them and would cause developers to loose money...so with it now being 2 systems its more of a hassle
DivineAssault  +   469d ago
sony may sell this tech to devs who make games for em one day.. It might be at the devs discretion whether or not to block the game from being played on another system.. Who knows but not all patents actually get put to use
the worst  +   469d ago
i dont care
bring it on
only bums cry about this
i buy all my games new
and 2 or 3 copy for my kids
if they want the same game
M-M  +   469d ago
comment ever.
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MaximusMagna  +   469d ago
I won't be getting any system that block used games.
Me and my friends exchange games alot, so now you telling me i won't be able to do that....
HeroReborn  +   469d ago
I think overall it would be good for the game industry because it would out more money in devs hands, and with less risk because of the used market no longer cutting into their profits. GameStop to me is not in a position to try to make demands due to the multitude of places where you can buy games and consoles. Better for them to find some way to bargain rather than trying to make a stance
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cl1983  +   468d ago
When you purchase any item you retain certain rights to that item. One of those rights is the ability to resell the item. If anyone implements this concept I expect several lawsuits to be filed.
frelyler  +   468d ago
They can't file suit, no one is saying they can't sell the game. It's just that said game won't work if they do. Also before playing a game there will be a new terms and conditions use which you must agree to in order to use the product. There are legal ways around this and the lawsuits will be tossed based on people's ignorance to terms they agreed to. Do I like it, not really, but what can anyone do really?
RuleofOne343  +   468d ago
@frelyler said *but what can anyone do really*
fight back cause a commotion, seek help from consumer right offices like these, yes they fight different issues but in the end it's about the consumer.

International Organization
Consumers International - International NGO
ANEC (Europe; focus on standardization)
BEUC (Europe; French: Bureau Européen des Unions de Consommateurs)
ICRT The only independent international organization for consumer research and testing

United Kingdom

CAMRA - a lobbying group concerned with the tradition and quality of beer.
The Citizen's Advice Bureau, a free service that provides legal advice, practical help and information on consumer rights across the country.
Consumer Council for Water (formerly known as Watervoice)
Consumer Direct
General Consumer Council of Northern Ireland
Good Garage Scheme, an automobile repair shop motoring scheme
National Consumer Council
Postwatch

United States

Alliance_for_Justice
American Consumer Institute
Better Business Bureau
Consumer Action
Consumer Federation of California
Consumers Union, publishers of Consumer Reports
Consumer Watchdog (USA), formerly the Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights
Public Citizen
Consumer Federation of America
Center for Science in the Public Interest (food/nutrition)
National Consumers League
U.S. Public Interest Research Group
Consumer Complaint Form, Federal Trade Commission
HeroReborn  +   468d ago
I would have to agree to disagree just because you buy an item does not give you a full right to do what ever you want with the product because say you no longer want to own it.
Before you go and jump at me look at it from this aspect. Pc games have operated on this model for a very long time both form the gaming aspect to the software aspect. If I buy something for web design or say 3d modeling no matter what the cost to me the company protects its invest me of decoupling and designing that software by making sure I can no longer take that copy and sell it to somebody else.
To which I say if it is not looked down upon in the PC market by those who use Steam and other platforms to permently buy content, who are we to think ourselves above those who work hard at bringing us different forms of Entertaiment.
Lets not be coy my dear gamers, devs are not just failing because of internal problems, I have a good notion a big problem is the used market.
HeroReborn  +   468d ago
Just my POV
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RuleofOne343  +   468d ago
I love gaming & will continue to do so ,but if both companies implement this tech how long will these developers support these games. Cause I do not plan on buying a games & forced to keep if their is no continued support for it in the form of DLC for MP & even some DLC for SP. Same goes for DDC.
3-4-5  +   468d ago
Hey guess what....Sony isn't patenting it for this upcoming generation....It's an add on or a firmware update or it's going to be implimented in their NEXT..NEXT gen. in 2020

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