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Submitted by alexcosborn 623d ago | opinion piece

The Last Guardian Launching on PS4, Majora's Mask for 3DS, and More Predictions for 2013

GR: With 2012 now behind us, we set our sights on the future and all of the excitement that 2013 will inevitably hold. Last year was a bit lackluster due to two consoles that are starting to show their age. If anything, 2012 was the calm before the storm that will rain down all over 2013.

As such, we here at GameRevolution figured it was a good time to dig out our thinking caps and make a few predictions on what the next twelve months may hold. So without further ado, let's get right into it. (3DS, PC, PS Vita, PS3, Wii U, Xbox 360)

ftwrthtx  +   623d ago
I don't think the PS3 has even been pushed to its limits, let alone 'shows its age'.
Norrison  +   622d ago
Far cry 3?
Merrill  +   622d ago
Agreed, Far Cry is a blast, but it looks pretty bad in most area's, i.e. screen tearing, bad textures, pop in, etc.

I need a new console for my 50 inch Samsung LED, the PS3 doesn't do it justice.
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Kevin ButIer  +   622d ago
Nowadays... a 7 year old computer clearly shows it's age. Still, The Last of Us is a good example to argue that this is not necessarily a bad thing.
dbjj12088  +   622d ago
I agree. You don't have to look far for the PS3 to show it's age as the frame rate on nearly every game sucks.
da_2pacalypse  +   622d ago
Have never played the PS3 version, but the xbox version was pretty good looking, considering how big the game was.

On topic, though I don't at all regret buying my ps3, as I've played many exclusives that I love very much, I'll be very upset if the Last Guardian is not launched on the PS3. One of the biggest reason I bought a PS3 to begin with was to play the Last Guardian, please make this true!

AHHHHH who am I kidding... I'll buy a PS4 to play it -_-
chukamachine  +   622d ago
Openworld games need ram.

PS3 is an old system now. But for games that do not require as much and have a very optimised engine(uncharted) games can look great.

PS3 has 1ppu and 6 usable spu's.

So it's a single core processor, and has spu's that can help in other area's.

If the PS3 had came with a dual core cpu and spu's, all of the games would be 30fps and some 60fps.

I'm looking forward to PS4 now.

Always like looking at new things.
corrus  +   622d ago
Here read this then http://www.gamespot.com/new...
OhReginald  +   622d ago
maybe, but EA always say they max out the ps3 with all their games.

I think crysis 3 (at least the console versions) will look the same as crysis 2 just run a lil better since it will be better optimized for consoles.
Raoh  +   622d ago
LOL you believe that? didn't they say they maxed out current gen with crysis 2?

GG said they were about half maxed with killzone 2, pushing it but not yet done with ps3's power after killzone 3.

blah blah blah blah..

Yeah I'd like new hardware, mainly for the new features but, there are still great games that can be made on current consoles, well, at least on ps3.
Ezz2013  +   622d ago
didn't they said that with crysis 2 and uncharted 3 ended up beating the hell out of it and won all the gfx awards in 2011 and still till his day have no match on consoles
and crysis 2 is no where near killzone 3 when it come to gfx
even halo 4/gears 3 look better than crysis 2
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1upgamer99  +   622d ago
It is funny you posted that link. When I read the comment that PS3 has not been maxed, this article is the one that I was thinking of. Less than 1 percent of current gen left after Crysis 3. I wonder how well it runs with the systems being pushed that hard. I am sure Crytek would not have done it if the systems were capable. Very cool!!!
NukaCola  +   622d ago
Crysis 2 on consoles looks pretty good but the best?..not at all. Maxed out my butt. Halo 4 and Killzone 3 both look better than Crysis 2 on their respective consoles. Crysis on PC does look great, but does not max out a console. Last of Us will look better than Crysis 3 on PS3, guaranteed.

EDIT: Wrote Crysis on PC when I meant PS3. PS3 exclusives are always better than Multiplats on PS3. Of course Crysis on PC will look incredible.
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j-blaze  +   622d ago
lol that better be sarcasm

on topic: The Last Guardian should be next gen launch title only if Sony wants to shoot itself in the foot, i'll say this again...
next gen = new console and small install base = no profit, i mean you can't just put something you worked on for 5 or 6 years at risk!

i say late 2013 or early 2014 for VersusXIII and The Last Guardian
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alexcosborn  +   622d ago
The Last Guardian won't be a massive selling game even if it launches on the PS3. Only the hardcore fans will pick it up... the same ones that will be getting a PS4 at launch.
GrandTheftZamboni  +   622d ago
Not necessarily so: Resistance 1 sold better on new PS3 than R2 and R3 when PS3 had bigger user base. But even if you're right, Sony cannot release a PS4 with no games. Given limited choice of games upon new console release, those games might sell better than on current console with bigger selection of games.
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Tontus  +   622d ago
@GranTheftZamboni Nope, Resistance 1 sold much better than 2 & 3 because it was massively bundled unlike it's sequels. Most of Sony's biggest IP's are massively bundled like the Uncharted series, Gran Turismo series, LittleBigPlanet 1 and Motorstorm 1, the only huge franchise Sony has that has never been mass bundled is God of War.
GribbleGrunger  +   622d ago
What is this obsession people have got with a game selling in huge amounts? It doesn't matter if TLG doesn't sell millions, it will be Sony saying to their fans: 'Remember that Sony stand for variety and quality and damn the numbers.' That's just the way they swing. When I buy a Sony console, I know I'm going to be rewarded and surprised.
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GenericNameHere  +   622d ago
@Tontus
Are you trying to imply that the only reason Sony's biggest exclusives sell well is because they are games bundled with PS3s? Got it. That means the Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Forza, and every other series or games Microsoft bundles with it's Xbox 360s has sold LESS than 1 Mil then. Thanks! Why haven't you complained this to every sales tracker yet??

/s
GenericNameHere  +   622d ago
Some of the PS2's greatest games came out early in its life cycle.
Final Fantasy X, Devil May Cry, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gran Turismo 3, Grand Theft Auto III, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, SSX, and Metal Gear Solid 2 (yes, I took this list straight from GameRadar, and it was a list of best PS2 games from 2000-2001). I don't know how much each sold in their first year, but these are QUALITY games, and they're launch window titles! I have no reason to doubt that if The Last Guardian or FFvXIII does come out for the PS4, and they're launch window titles, that Sony wouldn't sell consoles. I think having a small fanbase is not the problem, but the launch price. This too I have no doubt Sony will learn from. I don't think they'll risk another $600 console. If they can do $300-400, plus awesome launch games, there's no reason to doubt the PS4 will have a successful launch year.
P_Bomb  +   622d ago
@Tontus
Bundles do absolutely *nothing* for the already established install base that makes up the majority of a game's sales.

Think about this logically. It's much cheaper to buy a $30-$50 game than to spend $300 on a new console bundle every time a new game comes out. I didn't buy a new console every time a new Uncharted came out, lol. Drake's Fortune had no bundle in '07 anyways, hence why I had to buy the Motorstorm bundle and bought Drake's Fortune seperately.

This year's bundles have been all about AC3, BlackOps2, Halo4 and whatever 1-2 year old greatest hits BestBuy/FutureShop throw together for themselves. To insinuate bundles are the only reason PS3 exclusives sell is ridiculous. Especially considering the XBox360 bundle I bought in 2011 came bundled with Halo3/Fable3/Gears2/HaloWars/A lanWake and a 250GB HD http://www.joystiq.com/2011... .
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insomnium2  +   622d ago
@ tontus

Resistance 1 sold better than 2 and 3 because a) it is the best game in the series and b) there were not that many games to choose from in the beginning of this gen.

The very same thing happened to the first Motorstorm. R2 and R3 had competition --> R1 did not. So yeah there you have it. Not because of bundles.

And as P Bomb said the x360 has been bundled with 2 or 3 or even up to 4 and 5 games for YEARS. Does that mean that that's the only reason they've sold as they have. If you are a x360 supporter (or fanboy) this argument about bundles will SERIOUSLY bite you in the ass if you throw it around.
Jag-T1000  +   622d ago
It doesn't matter. If your competitor releases a new system, you have to release one too.
wishingW3L  +   622d ago
PS3 is limited by its memory so even if devs could squeeze the Cell a bit more nothing can be done if there's no memory left. Sony has already shrinked the OS's memory foot-print all they can and is still bigger than the Xbox's OS but that's just how it is. =/
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fermcr  +   622d ago
At this point, The Last Guardian looks like it's vaporware.
ElectricKaibutsu  +   622d ago
That was the game that was going to be my reason for buying a PS3. I ended up having to find other reasons but it took me awhile. I'll be picking up a PS4 either way but I hope it will be released eventually. I can't believe it missed this whole generation...
bunfighterii  +   622d ago
While games still look great on PS3 (and 360) they're saddled by their lack of memory. I love my PS3, and I agree there's a lot of life left yet in the system, but a PS4 would be a day one purchase for me!
isyourhouseonfire  +   622d ago
You're joking right? The PS3 was dead on arrival thanks to the X360. It's been time to move on from BOTH consoles for a few years now.
Ezz2013  +   622d ago
"The PS3 was dead on arrival thanks to the X360"
WTF ?!
spartanlemur  +   622d ago
They were both dead on arrival as the PC was far better than both, and has only been eclipsing them further ever since. I do love PS3-Xbox360 fanboyism - it's like arguing whether a Ford Fiesta is better than a Toyota Prius.
saint_seya  +   622d ago
looooooool u have no clue at all of what ure talking about.. ure not a fanboy... ure a troll boy..
spartanlemur  +   622d ago
The PS3 is a weak piece of trash from almost a decade ago. Mine sits on my desk gathering dust while I use my state of the art PC for modern games. Trust me when I say that the PS3 has been pushed as far as possible by games such as Farcry 3.
forevercloud3000  +   622d ago
When your PC can legally play games like Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Valkyria Chronicles, MGS4, etc....then you can talk about how awesome PC is.

PC elitism is moot. Everyone's PC is different. My current RIG could not handle any current gen games for sure. I can't afford to upgrade it, less I would have to sacrifice the funds for all the exclusive games I get via console. Fact of the matter is, the biggest games in the industry always perform better on Console, they are far more convenient and cost efficient. No one is going to upgrade their PC every year just so they can play one game.
Bordel_1900  +   622d ago
After I bought a new gaming PC last year I realized how antiquated and slow the consoles are (X360 and PS3). Low-res textures, low resolution, extremely bad frame-rates (most games struggle to maintain even 30 fps.), low quality rendering, slow load times, very limited functionality, and the list goes on, etc.

The good thing about PS3 is that it has some very good exclusives, and it's cheaper than a good gaming PC, this is what saves it.
solar  +   622d ago
i want The Last Guardian so bad >.<
showtimefolks  +   622d ago
i say its a safe bet this will be a launch title for ps4. sony world wide studios sent some of their best people not my words but words from studio's president.

just imagibe if we see this game running not just trailer but on stage demo, if sony plays its cards right which i think they will than at E3 they will blow the roof off

show last guardian running on ps4 in stunning HD 1080P

Show Gt6 on stage Demmo, and please don't be like 1000 cars when 300-440 of them are actually worth driving, so give us 350 great looking cars instead of 650 generic ones. and thats coming from a huge GT fan. also please look at how forza includes some community features online please add some of those to next GT

Show Uncharted 4 trailer, or atleast announce that ND are working on a new UC game

Killzone 4 needs to be a launch title, show ps4's power with a launch trailer and or stage demo

Than there are the unknowns:

what are sucker punch working on?

ready at dawn is a 2nd party studio which is working on a next gen title

and this is my personal wish list: i don't see a lot of this happening but i hope sony proves me wrong and show bunch of this stuff:

Sony buys THQ or some of its Ip's
Syphon Filter game for PS4

Getaway series reboot, fine some developers with open world game experience maybe the ones that did Sleeping dogs

ask Insomniac to do a proper Ratchet and Clank game

sorry for going off topic but i am really excited to see what sony has in store for ps4 in fall 2013. we know next to nothing about what's to come in fall 2013
2pacalypsenow  +   622d ago
Screen tearing is awful on pc too unless you use vsync and then you have input lag because of the vsync and then it lock you FPS to what you monitor refreshes to most people dont have 120hz monitor most game at 60hz

@spartanlemur so its a weak piece of trash because its old and cant keep up with new technology its only 6 years old no duh i can even play any games from 2008 +on my pc with my 7800 gtx , but not everyone can buy a $400-1k video cards to play far cry in Max settings at 1080p.
Funny I have a great gaming pc with a gtx 690 but I still spend more time on my Ps3 and xbox 360 because of the great games you can play on ps3 and not Pc.
You sound like snob on your comment or a desperate PC gamer that knows Consoles sell more games and get priority ,So you knock on consoles to make yourself feel better ...
SMh people like you make the Pc community seem like zealots
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Bordel_1900  +   622d ago
That's not completely true.

On PC you actually have a choice to choose between:

- Enable Vsync
- Disable Vsync and uncap your frames
- Disable Vsync and cap fps slightly above or below monitor refresh
- Disable Vsync but cap fps to your monitor's refresh.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe you have the GTX690 card. With a card like this most games would not suffer from awful screen tearing, running without vsync.

On console many games are vsynced to 30 fps, or they're not vsynced at all. Since consoles are so weak, they barely manage to render between 20-30 frames per second (with some exceptions). This generates much bigger input lag than on a good PC.

I have a PS3 and all cross-platform games are bounds and leaps better on my PC, it's like comparing PS3 to PS1, only games I play on my PS3 are PS3 exclusives.
black911  +   622d ago
David Cage recently Stated the ps3 still has alot of power left.
Cam977  +   622d ago
No, it really has. The Last Of Us will show us it's final efforts alongside B:TS. Yesterday I played AC3 and to be fair, it looks like crap. I fear the reality of GTAV on consoles will ba poor too.
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Eyeco  +   622d ago
oh come on man seriously ? 3 years ago, I might have agreed with you when realistically all 3 next gen SHOULD have been announced, but do you know how far late we are in this gen for you to be saying that ? could you imagine if someone said the same thing 2007 about the PS2 or even 2002 with the PS1 ? In fact could you imagine if the 360 and PS3 weren't even announced much less released at that point ?

I honestly dont see the PS3 going beyond TLOU, and if you don't like that fact why should it bother you ?, it's not like the PS3 is like the Sega Saturn or Dreamcast where we never saw the true capabilities due to short life span.
its been on the market for 6-7 7 years, 360 7-8 (YES THATS ALMOST A DECADE) realistically if you follow history this gen should have been wrapped up a few years ago.
ThichQuangDuck  +   623d ago
I just want the Last Guardian with Ueda was still creative director. I feel Sony partially botched The Last Guardian by a lack of support and showing it too early. I have no predictions for 2013 only hopes and I know surprises in the fall
DOMination-  +   623d ago
If he's still in charge and its for ps4 we still won't see it for years as this guy will want to redo the game from scratch and make it "perfection".

I know he's made two masterpieces and tlg will be great too but Sony wasted too much time and money on this guy. A whole generation has passed and seemingly has nothing to show other than a trailer they were forced to because of the leak by psls.
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jukins  +   622d ago
it wasnt the lack of support it was a large amount of technical hurdles kinda brought on by ueda himself. Like other legendary japanese developers they usually bite off more than they can chew at the start, because of high ambitions, but once reality sits in and they get the ball rolling only goodness can come.

while we've had to wait ages for this game I'm sure gamers will be happy with the final product whether its ps3 or ps4 (orbis lol)
ElectricKaibutsu  +   622d ago
I thought Ueda left the project. No? I'll be happy if he's still there.
jukins  +   622d ago
yea he left the company but agreed finish this game.
TrendyGamers  +   623d ago
2013 has the potential to be a gigantic year.
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Timesplitter14  +   623d ago
but what good are predictions?
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GribbleGrunger  +   622d ago
You'll get an answer to that next year.
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cedaridge  +   623d ago
I do at this point prefer "The Last Guardian" be on the PS4. I'm just ready to hear the words that ps4 & xbox 720 is reality not just rumor.
Games4M - Rob  +   623d ago
I honestly dont think the last guardian is ever going to see the light of day.
Syntax-Error  +   623d ago
Your 2 disagrees came from idiots
I totally agree with you. TLG is VAPORWARE. They don't know what to do with it. It's been so long since you heard anything about it and lost its direction somewhere. Too much invested to scrap it. I know the game is shelved and no one is saying anything about it until they can figure out what to do with it. The game missed an entire generation and these fools are speculating it will be next generation. That's like saying Rainbow Six will be released on PS4 and 720 now
jukins  +   622d ago
im sure we will. like i said before in this topic. i think ueda wanted to do more than whats capable by the ps3 or maybe even the dev team itself. hopefully they have gotten back down to earth and development is rolling smoothly.
silkrevolver  +   623d ago
That would be awesome, but I'd settle with it being released at all.
Enemy  +   623d ago
Just tried to imagine The Last Guardian on the PS4 and had a huge accident. Brb.
Summons75  +   623d ago
Eh I don't want that to be the case, I would much rather play the last guardian on ps3
AngelicIceDiamond  +   622d ago
I think so, I mean you can't speak on what's innovating and how the game looks because we've never seen it in Live action gameplay on PS3.

So putting it on PS4 wouldn't change peoples aspect about the game because we know little about the game.

It be "TLG on PS4." Assuming it would have been better than the PS3.
Summons75  +   622d ago
I understand if they do with good reason. But as someone who has been looking forward to this since it was announced I personally don't want them to move it to the ps4 but again if they do I would understand and still buy it.
MikEyG  +   622d ago
What's that kefka pic say? I didn't even have to look at the name I seen that 16 bit face and knew right away lol
nevin1  +   623d ago
It will be risky if they moved development to PS4.

The installed based will be very small

It won't take advantage of PS4's tech(assuming its a launch title)

Also it still could be a PS3 release considering GOW2(2007)released after PS3's launch(2006)
knifefight  +   622d ago
It's true, it's true. On the other hand, maybe PS3 isn't quiiite enough for it and maybe they want a unique IP to launch with the system? I'm not saying that IS happening, just saying that if it did, that could factor into why.
Enemy  +   622d ago
Launching this on the PS4 would also insta-sell systems. We have no gameplay for it and yet it's one of the most talked about games of this generation. Everyone wants it. I honestly believe this generation of consoles couldn't handle Team ICO's initial vision, and I wouldn't be surprised if they secretly pushed it into next gen.
wildcat  +   622d ago
The most logical post in here and you get only 2 agrees.

It will certainly stay a PS3 title because of the established base. It wouldn't be smart to tell all of the millions of PS3 owners, who have been waiting ages for this game, to go out and purchase a whole new system in order to play something that they've waited this long for.
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DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   622d ago
I want a completely new Zelda on 3DS first before majoras mask remake.
I am fine with this this.. This means the old trailer will look like sh!t compared to ps4? I hope so.. Also I can't wait for guerrilla games new game at e3!

@NukaCola
" Last of Us will look better than Crysis 3 on PC, guaranteed."

You mean it looks better than this?
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

ok...

TLOU is better than next gen?
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Bordel_1900  +   622d ago
I agree with you, the right thing is to release TLG for PS4, I don't think I'll even be interested anymore if it releases for the PS3 later 2013 or early 2014.

Bring it! PS4: Gran Turismo 6 and The Last Guardian! Would be awesome. If not, I would love to see these beautiful games on PC, but guess that won't be happening too soon.
Yangus  +   622d ago
Gran Turismo 6=Ps4 "Orbis"

I wait next-gen!
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TheKayle  +   622d ago
TLG just dont exist...like AGENT...and a lots of vaporware that everytime sony come out with a console..need to make ppl talk about...

and if it ever exist was clear ..that wasnt a title that could run on ps3......too complex (at least for what we seen from the trailer) ...i still need to see something this good on ps3....

ps. but i think that also the last mgs will be ps4 title........
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MultiConsoleGamer  +   622d ago
No PS4 in 2013.
BrianC6234  +   622d ago
I don't think The Last Guardian will be on the PS4. More like the PS5. Then it will be perfect. Give them ten more years to make the game. :)
landog  +   622d ago
LAST OF US is going to be awesome, naughtydog are in my top 10 developers I love and buy their games no matter what, and it is going to be, perhaps the best looking game ever to grace a console, but...

there is no point in even comparing or mentioning pc, a platform that has gone through two generational leaps since the launch of ps3/360

crysis 1 from 2007 on pc maxed out is a generation beyond anything you will ever see from ps3/360 or wii u for that matter

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

maybe, if we are lucky, next gen console will be able to achieve that quality in 1080p at 30 frames with 4x aa, certainly not 16x aa and 60 frames, or, never, and i mean never, at the resolutions pc's are pumping now, 1200p, 1440p, 2560x1600p...not going to happen, consoles are always a gen behind, its just not cost efficeient to make $1000 consoles, and thats what would be needed to achieve a modern pc level of quality!
RandomDude655  +   622d ago
I think it's obvious that Last Guardian is going to PS4.

First "technical issues on ps3"
Then "last guardian is only possible with the power of PS4"

I think most technical issues would have been solved now with all the tech know-how at SCE.
StreetsofRage  +   622d ago
Would make an incredible start for a launch lineup, that's for sure.

Still can't believe Team Ico who has the 2 of the best ps2 titles ever has zero ps3 titles. Wow! Another reason why the ps3 has failed me.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   622d ago
Whaaa??? PS3 has failed you? Then I think you should change that "Proud PS3 and 360 owner" part in your profile to just "Proud 360 owner" as it doesn't make sense to be proud of something that has failed you. Unless of course you don't own a PS3 and just say you do (like several on N4G do) which in that case you can keep the B.S. on there.
memots  +   622d ago
Just read part of his comment history and you'll find out that indeed he doesn't have a ps3 and the reason why he only has a single bubble.
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Wintersun616  +   622d ago
Developers don't deliver, blame the console. F#&k logic.
Drainage  +   622d ago
The Last gaurdian is the last remnant of the PS3's old slogan "The Delaystation"
TheKayle  +   622d ago
@streetofrage

ps3 isnt a fail.....is just the opposite...the only bad think that we could say..is...not all the developers was good to write code for it......Team Ico failed to do it...naugthy dog..santa monica and other been payed good for......

next gen excluding the cell fromt he ps4 they solved this problem......"hopefully&q uot;
J86blum  +   622d ago
Uncharted, Crysis 3, and Killzone 2 I think give the PS3 a good idea of pushing it, but not to the limit.
BinaryMind  +   622d ago
It would be a shame if Last Gaurdian launched on PS4. It would look like such an impressive game on PS3, but on PS4 I imagine it would look antiquated.
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1upgamer99  +   622d ago
I think this article as far as PS4/Xbox is dead wrong. I think Xbox will "Soft launch" Holiday meaning not globally, and I think PS4 will launch early 2014. As far as price, PS3 slim is going for $299 so how would it be that cheap for a PS4. I agree with the multi-media portion of it, but these consoles would have to do some special multi-media (like stream games) to win me over. I already have Wii U,PS3, Smart TV, smart blu-ray, and Roku. Even my DVR has Facebook and Youtube. I am sure that PS4/720 will be amazing. I just don't agree with much of what this guy says, and that is based on what I have read over the past few weeks. I hope he is right on price, but I can't see that being the case. I know there is a PS4 in my future for sure though.
1upgamer99  +   622d ago
Wow, so this guys says, I hope Nintendo has a new IP up its sleeve..Where has he been? Shigeru Miyamoto himself is behind a new Nintendo IP. Also Retro is working on something super cool, and SSB is in development, Zelda is being worked on, I am pretty sure a new 3D Mario Will be out this year The issue I have is when are the others going to be released???? So are we going to have to wait for E3 to find out? If that is the case then I doubt any of the others will come out this year. I really hope that is not the case.
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Tzunoy  +   622d ago
So they call the 2 or 3 year old engine next gen?
camehlheon  +   622d ago
I highly doubt that "The Last Guardian" will be released for PS4 as it's been developped for years for PS3... It's too late to change plans for that now.

About Far Cry 3 showing the limits of PS3, I'd rather say that it shows how bad a PS3 port can be. If you want to see its true potential, check out the exclusives (especially "The Last of Us", coming soon).

PS3 can still run a couple years, it'll be fine.

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