Doom 4, which is expected to be the next big first-person shooter from seasoned developer id Software, seems to be headed to both Sony and Microsoft’s next-generation consoles.
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Based on Id Softwares recent performance im going to go out on a limb and state that Doom 4 will look amazing but play like utter turd, just like every Id game since Quake.
Woopty doo!!! let's throw a party. Wait and see what the wiiu will get. I think it's got a good chance of getting many games next gen , even if they are scaled down from 720 and ps4.
Even if not , the wiiu will still have the best exclusives next gen , which automatically makes it a must own.
I'm going to see what happens between PS4 and 720 and then choose between one of them to play my multiplats on....
It has to be on the next consoles... there's just no way they're going to dumb down Doom 4 for the archaic current gen architecture. They already did it with BFG edition with varying results (no casted shadows from your flashlight anyone?) but they are guaranteed to be doing a AAA game on consoles. Spending all the money to make Doom 4 and having it exclusive to PC would bankrupt them, Bethesda isn't dumb enough to do that.
@animegamingnerd doubt it, given the success that Original PC shooters like Battlefield, COD, Crysis have had on consoles I highly doubt they'll keep it exclusive to just 2 platforms. It will definitely make it to PS4 and 720 eventually, and as for the Wii-U lool considering the system is struggling to run last/current gen games that's questionable.
It was built for the consoles and the PC version will be just a bad port! Hopefully Doom 4 runs better on the consoles unlike that crap Rage.
I don't need another generic shooter when there are games out there on the horizon pushing new ideas. Especially in the RPS/RTS genre like Natural Selection 2!
What makes you think it would play poorly? Doom 3, Quake, Rage, pretty much every game ID has worked on personally has had great game play, not to mention looked and ran really well for their time. I'm interested in your reasoning.
My reasoning is that i have an opposite opinion to yours. I was a huge fan of the original doom and the quake series and so was very excited and so was very excited at the prospect of Doom 3.
What i got was a tech demo. Doom 3 was a tedious, repetitive game which only saving factor was its superb graphics.
Fast forward to Rage and it was more of the same. Any AAA developer who can make a game about shooting mutants in the face dull is doing something very wrong.
It seems to me that Id are just a house of programming geniuses with no one there who has a clue about story, gameplay, immersion, pacing etc. So my reasoning is that unless anything major has changed at Id then their games will continue to be dull, tedious, lifeless experiences - but with superb graphics.
Nice hopefully ID has learned something from Rage.
Also I don't think this will come to wii-u. Get use to it, I think most next gen tiles will skip wii-u unless Nintendo does something drastically different to attract 3rd party publishers
It's unfair because wii-u while not a tru next gen system is still a upgrade vet current systems.
I'd say we wait before we pass bad judgement on WiiU capabilities until 2014 lands. It show show some significant signs of its maximum quality by then.
I don't expect 3rd party publishers to skip out on the WiiU. Why? Well Wii itself outsold the other two because it was the cheaper of the three and even without major third party support how many Wiis do people have in their hands? 3rd parties will grab the WiiU tightly when the people flow into using the console. It will be the cheapest of the four new consoles again so it will sell fast. Although the new 3 Android consoles under $100 could slow that quick sell momentum Nintendo has aimed itself towards.
I personally believe Bethesda will look at WiiU, PC, PS4, XB3, PS3, X360 as possible platforms to put Doom4 out on.
What you seem to be forgetting is moms and grandmas are not lining up to buy the wii-u because Nintendo has been very bad in their advertisement because the message isn't as clear as wii was
Also don't expect wii-u to sell 96 million. Here is a fun fact NES was the last Nintendo system that got a lot of 3rd party support.
You said wii had a huge install base yet most 3rd party games didn't sell well enough, because wii was for everything but core games. But when Nintendo released one of their 1st party games it sold.
Nintendo has a tougher road ahead IMO, while wii-u is a step up from os3 and xbox360 but how much of a step up? And will wii-u be a forgotten device when ps4 and next Xbox hit the market this fall? I think so.
Most big 3rd party games in early 2013 are not coming out on wii-u.
Nintendo has to do whatever it takes to get GTA 5 on wii-u(I don't see it happening)
"RAGE" had astoundingly good combat, mainly as a result of the tremendous animations and sublime enemy AI. Many people, like yourself, consider it to be a "utter turd" because you went into playing it with incorrect preconceptions of what the game actually was, most mistaking it for a Fallout like experience.
"RAGE" did a lot wrong, yes. Being an id Software game, (especially being one with such brilliant shooting mechanics and 60 FPS) it NEEDED competitive Deathmatch Mode's. Instead, we were shovelled the tiresome vehicular modes and the decent but nothing spectacular "Legend's of the Wasteland" Co-Op modes. This, coupled with the unintelligent story and unholy ending made for a collective catalogue of disappointments.
However, that doesn't excuse the fact that "RAGE" was fantastic at many things. Technically, it was absolutely stunning, in both visuals and animations, and these went hand in hand with the smooth shooting, making for more interesting and unpredictable combat scenario's, with different enemy factions utilising the environment and weaponry in different ways. Also, id provided the gamer with a diverse selection of weaponry, from the standard pistols, shotguns and rifle, to the absolutely BRILLIANT "Wingstick". Also, with the implementation of ammo types, the gamer was capable of using the environment to their advantage by shooting electrical bolts at puddles of water and exposed electrical panels, electrocuting their foes, also, ammo types changed the functionalityy of a weapon such as using "Fat Mamma's" Ammo for the pistol of which when coupled with the utilisation of the monocular, essentially turns it into a sniper, or the rocket ammo for the Shotgun, adapting it into, essentially, a grenade launcher. The gadgets, as mentioned before, were wonderfully designed, plant an advanced automated turret, drawing enemy attention and flank around them, use an RC Bomb Car on unsuspecting foes and blow them up. This game features undeniably diverse and unpredictable combat, of which, along with its technical accomplishments make it a great game. Not a masterpiece, but none the less, much higher quality than "utter turd".
I agree with most of what you said, I thoroughly enjoyed RAGE (pre 1.02 patch), I really liked the co-op (I hate competitive MP). My biggest gripe with the game were the textures, turn too fast and they popped in, enter a building, pop in etc etc it really did put a damper on the game for me.
Then there's the latest patch, its pretty much wrecked the game. One example is Wingsticks, they now cost more to make than they do to buy? seriously why? They've made the blueprint for them utterly pointless. Another is they've made the time trials stupidly hard. There are a few more problems but can't remember them off the top of my head.
Still, despite that I'm still going to buy the DLC :)
Id are still living in the past. games like doom or quake were acceptable 15 years ago but unless they drastically change the formula it will fail. you cant get away with having a game thats story pretty much is 'im just a random guy sent to shoot things. Lots of things'. Get to point B and shoot evrrything in between.
I still like games like that. Besides, that's not all that Doom 3 had going for it, the story was helped along by your pda and the emails and audio logs. And it had an incredible atmosphere.
I'm a big fan of films like Alien and Event Horizon, and I want games that have that sort of setting. With the exceptions of the Doom and Dead Space series there isn't any other games that give me that sort of feeling of being alone in space against an evil enemy.
If Doom 4 can take what was great about Doom 3 and add to it I'll be very happy.
EDIT:I should also add that the first two Alien games on pc were also great as well. They had the same sort of tone.
I don't have much hope for the upcoming Gearbox release from the preview I read in PC Gamer, they don't seem to understand what Aliens fans actually want. And Dead Space 3 is taking the series away from what made it great, so Doom 4 might be my only savior.
" you cant get away with having a game thats story pretty much is 'im just a random guy sent to shoot things. Lots of things'. Get to point B and shoot evrrything in between." So what you're telling me is almost every other popular shooter (I.E Call of Duty and Halo) Stories aren't acceptable, because that's pretty much what they are.
They're not though. Even cod has an actual story and mostly the single player is pretty good in terms if narrative and spectacle. In Doom you're just a bloke on mars shooting stuff
I guess I'm the only one that thought Rage was very underrated (especially Scorchers DLC). If they continue to push gameplay first, then I'm hyped about Doom 4.
Although Rage ran at 60FPS, the gameplay itself was pretty bad as far as I am concerned. It looked like a cool game, but I never got into it. That stupid hologram mini-game pissed me off as well lol.
I still have a feeling that most next gen games will have to either be a serverly downgraded port too wiiU or not even come to wiiU. Unless its made exclusively for wiiU like bayonetta 2. But most 3rd parties will likely put their products on ps4 and 720. But this is actually good news. It means Nintendo will be pumping out some incredibly amazing first party stuff soon to balance the lack of 3rd party support.
I want them to make a new wave race, a new pilot wings, a new star fox, a sequel to 2010's retro's donkey kong returns, and hopefully some great new stuff thrown in we haven't seen before.
The wiiU will probably be my favorite console from Nintendo. It's already very close. But I also can't wait to see what the ps4 brings either.
So a Twitter post does not costitute an official announcement hmmm!!! Wrong!!!
Tweeter is so out there that it was the reason why people knew Osama Bin Laden was dead before it was official announce on the news!!! Tweeter is news before the news man. Take your head out of the sands and see it for yourself.
I just hope this is not the only damn game they release for next gen. Weren't Quake 4 , Quake Enemy Territories and Rage the only current gen games released along with Doom 3 BFG edition but I really don't take that into consideration.
Just got my old Asus MS 236H 22.3" monitor replaced free under warranty with VG278H 3D 27" Nvidia Nvision2 3D monitor. Loving it and now dont know if i should go back to pc gaming or go console route coming gen LOL.
i hope they use the epic doom music for the main menu in doom 4 or at least one of the areas and im referring to first level in the original doom music
Doom4 is coming to current gen also,no way they are going to skip a 150mil+ user base. And Doom4 is gonna be 30fps with better visuals unlike 60fps Rage. Carmack confirmed it long time ago.
Single player, as a result of the game being "twice as visually stunning as RAGE" (in id's words) and due to them wanting to pit the gamer against masses of enemies, will run at 30 FPS on Consoles (no confirmation for PC), multiplayer will run at 60 FPS.
There will be an achievement for letting every single texture load in an outdoor scene; called "Fully Loaded". Takes about the same amount of time as loading a GT5 track.
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i don´t think so, Doom 4 is too big to be a PC exclusive
Even if not , the wiiu will still have the best exclusives next gen , which automatically makes it a must own.
I'm going to see what happens between PS4 and 720 and then choose between one of them to play my multiplats on....
Yeah, because looking at the Wii, the Wii U WILL definitely have the best exclusives next gen -_-
"Yeah, because looking at the Wii, the Wii U WILL definitely have the best exclusives next gen -_-"
It had the best to me easily. Then again, I'm tired of shooters.
For some that will be the case. For me... no.
You're kidding right? Unless your under 13 years old then Sony and Microsoft have the best exclusives hands down.
"the wiiu will still have the best exclusives
ps3/pc have the best exclusives this gen
Unless you're over 18, then it's the PC :)
doubt it, given the success that Original PC shooters like Battlefield, COD, Crysis have had on consoles I highly doubt they'll keep it exclusive to just 2 platforms.
It will definitely make it to PS4 and 720 eventually, and as for the Wii-U lool considering the system is struggling to run last/current gen games that's questionable.
Graphics and animation will be nice I am sure.
Amen to that!
I have NO interest in Doom 4!
It was built for the consoles and the PC version will be just a bad port! Hopefully Doom 4 runs better on the consoles unlike that crap Rage.
I don't need another generic shooter when there are games out there on the horizon pushing new ideas. Especially in the RPS/RTS genre like Natural Selection 2!
What i got was a tech demo. Doom 3 was a tedious, repetitive game which only saving factor was its superb graphics.
Fast forward to Rage and it was more of the same. Any AAA developer who can make a game about shooting mutants in the face dull is doing something very wrong.
It seems to me that Id are just a house of programming geniuses with no one there who has a clue about story, gameplay, immersion, pacing etc. So my reasoning is that unless anything major has changed at Id then their games will continue to be dull, tedious, lifeless experiences - but with superb graphics.
Also I don't think this will come to wii-u. Get use to it, I think most next gen tiles will skip wii-u unless Nintendo does something drastically different to attract 3rd party publishers
It's unfair because wii-u while not a tru next gen system is still a upgrade vet current systems.
I don't expect 3rd party publishers to skip out on the WiiU. Why? Well Wii itself outsold the other two because it was the cheaper of the three and even without major third party support how many Wiis do people have in their hands? 3rd parties will grab the WiiU tightly when the people flow into using the console. It will be the cheapest of the four new consoles again so it will sell fast. Although the new 3 Android consoles under $100 could slow that quick sell momentum Nintendo has aimed itself towards.
I personally believe Bethesda will look at WiiU, PC, PS4, XB3, PS3, X360 as possible platforms to put Doom4 out on.
What you seem to be forgetting is moms and grandmas are not lining up to buy the wii-u because Nintendo has been very bad in their advertisement because the message isn't as clear as wii was
Also don't expect wii-u to sell 96 million. Here is a fun fact NES was the last Nintendo system that got a lot of 3rd party support.
You said wii had a huge install base yet most 3rd party games didn't sell well enough, because wii was for everything but core games. But when Nintendo released one of their 1st party games it sold.
Nintendo has a tougher road ahead IMO, while wii-u is a step up from os3 and xbox360 but how much of a step up? And will wii-u be a forgotten device when ps4 and next Xbox hit the market this fall? I think so.
Most big 3rd party games in early 2013 are not coming out on wii-u.
Nintendo has to do whatever it takes to get GTA 5 on wii-u(I don't see it happening)
"RAGE" did a lot wrong, yes. Being an id Software game, (especially being one with such brilliant shooting mechanics and 60 FPS) it NEEDED competitive Deathmatch Mode's. Instead, we were shovelled the tiresome vehicular modes and the decent but nothing spectacular "Legend's of the Wasteland" Co-Op modes. This, coupled with the unintelligent story and unholy ending made for a collective catalogue of disappointments.
However, that doesn't excuse the fact that "RAGE" was fantastic at many things. Technically, it was absolutely stunning, in both visuals and animations, and these went hand in hand with the smooth shooting, making for more interesting and unpredictable combat scenario's, with different enemy factions utilising the environment and weaponry in different ways. Also, id provided the gamer with a diverse selection of weaponry, from the standard pistols, shotguns and rifle, to the absolutely BRILLIANT "Wingstick". Also, with the implementation of ammo types, the gamer was capable of using the environment to their advantage by shooting electrical bolts at puddles of water and exposed electrical panels, electrocuting their foes, also, ammo types changed the functionalityy of a weapon such as using "Fat Mamma's" Ammo for the pistol of which when coupled with the utilisation of the monocular, essentially turns it into a sniper, or the rocket ammo for the Shotgun, adapting it into, essentially, a grenade launcher. The gadgets, as mentioned before, were wonderfully designed, plant an advanced automated turret, drawing enemy attention and flank around them, use an RC Bomb Car on unsuspecting foes and blow them up. This game features undeniably diverse and unpredictable combat, of which, along with its technical accomplishments make it a great game. Not a masterpiece, but none the less, much higher quality than "utter turd".
Then there's the latest patch, its pretty much wrecked the game. One example is Wingsticks, they now cost more to make than they do to buy? seriously why? They've made the blueprint for them utterly pointless. Another is they've made the time trials stupidly hard. There are a few more problems but can't remember them off the top of my head.
Still, despite that I'm still going to buy the DLC :)
I'm a big fan of films like Alien and Event Horizon, and I want games that have that sort of setting. With the exceptions of the Doom and Dead Space series there isn't any other games that give me that sort of feeling of being alone in space against an evil enemy.
If Doom 4 can take what was great about Doom 3 and add to it I'll be very happy.
EDIT:I should also add that the first two Alien games on pc were also great as well. They had the same sort of tone.
I don't have much hope for the upcoming Gearbox release from the preview I read in PC Gamer, they don't seem to understand what Aliens fans actually want. And Dead Space 3 is taking the series away from what made it great, so Doom 4 might be my only savior.
So what you're telling me is almost every other popular shooter (I.E Call of Duty and Halo) Stories aren't acceptable, because that's pretty much what they are.
I wait next-gen!
But the gunplay alone was better than 90% of other shooters, excluding killzones and cods.
The game is also either the most beautiful or ugly game depending on whether the textures load right. When the tech works, it's a beautiful game.
The game was just dang fun to me.
It means Nintendo will be pumping out some incredibly amazing first party stuff soon to balance the lack of 3rd party support.
I want them to make a new wave race, a new pilot wings, a new star fox, a sequel to 2010's retro's donkey kong returns, and hopefully some great new stuff thrown in we haven't seen before.
The wiiU will probably be my favorite console from Nintendo. It's already very close.
But I also can't wait to see what the ps4 brings either.
Official Xbox Magazine just announce Tomb Raider Multiplayer on Tweeter. See Here:
http://www.polygon.com/2012...
So a Twitter post does not costitute an official announcement hmmm!!! Wrong!!!
Tweeter is so out there that it was the reason why people knew Osama Bin Laden was dead before it was official announce on the news!!! Tweeter is news before the news man. Take your head out of the sands and see it for yourself.
I will of course be getting that for PC.
Current gen consoles I feel really didn't help RAGE at all and it was poorly brought over as well...
It felt like you were about half-way through the game when it just shockingly ends.
And Doom4 is gonna be 30fps with better visuals unlike 60fps Rage.
Carmack confirmed it long time ago.
Rage was a good game,except for bad ending.