PlayStation 4 will most likely be debuting this coming year, and for Nintendo, that could be a bad thing given its limitability.
According to a report from GamesIndustry on Wednesday, Ben There's Dan Marshall said the tech within the Nintendo Wii U is not very good.
"I don't think the tech behind it is good enough either. But I will say that the original Wii controller wasn't great technically, either.
"Everyone was expecting it to be 1:1 and it wasn't. Know everyone is expecting the GamePad to be like an iPad, and it's not," Marshall said.
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Sure I can browse the internet on the gamepad, and it's actually quite responsive and intuitive. But I didn't buy a Wii U so I can update my facebook status or twitter. The fact that I can do them is a bonus, but I'll leave the mindless internet browsing to the ipad or desktop computer.
This is just one example, read the article and he could have easily interchanged the title with PS4 or Xbox 720, nowhere does this solely say anything about the PS4
I bet it's a cheap tactic for hits
Which for me is a miss opportunity for Nintendo. They really needed to make the controller extremely portable. Of course this would make things really expensive which makes me think screen in controllers in gaming is not ready yet. The fact you can play Wii U games on the controller is cool but completely unnecessary. Despite economic down turn more families have more than one TV since TVs are extremely cheap. Families do not sit in one room and watch TV anymore. What the Wii U could have done is play Wii U games on the go.
Combine that with extremely cheap, social, games then the Wii U will be flying off the shelves and into the masses hands. I think a big problem is it looks like the Wii U is competing with Ipads and children these days would rather have an Ipad because they can play their angry birds, sims style games anywhere while browsing the internet. The Wii U is limited to the home
It is interesting to have different input methods in games but that is a half step and Nintendo should have taken the full step forward. Also it is up to developers to really use the feature but if the other two console makers do not have screen controllers developers (except first party) are not going to spend extra time using it. It will be relegated to just menus.
Obviously the off play feature isn't for everyone, but having the ability to play the game while I lie down in bed, or just to allow the Mrs. to hog the TV is a godsend for me. I wouldn't be playing the system half the time otherwise.
While the gamepad will undoubtedly be judged against things like the iPad just like the 3DS and Vita have to face competition from smartphones as they increase in power and capabilities, I still think they provide different experiences. A console gamer is expecting a little more depth than the latest angry bird or words with friends. The fact that the gamepad can browse the internet, or update your facebook should be considered bonuses, not requirements.
And with your last point, yes it is definitely up to the developers to utilize the gamepad screen effectively. Ubisoft did a great job using it for ZombiU and here's hoping other studios can offer great experiences with it too. Only time will tell of course.
Considering Wii U sales, every bit of negative press stings a bit more.
Don't be stupid. The wiiu had dual analogue sticks , it's easier and less gimmiky to zoom in by moving the analog stick forward.
Capacative screens have no use what so ever in real gaming. Most smartphones don't have buttons , so you need to be able to pinch and zoom.
The 3DS and Wiiu are both better off without capacative screens. They are button based consoles with secondary touch screens after all.
Hey bro can I borrow your game, oh wait :[
I'm not so sure I enjoy this game I gonna trade it in, oh wait :[
If Sony follows through with this there finished, wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft does the same. All hail Steambox lol ;)
don't think for yourself do you? You let the internet do it for you. There has been so much speculation on this simply because it's been the only real news since quarterly reports. The ps3 was suppose to block used games. Did that end up happening, no. They should do what they're doing now with online passes. Lock content, and force the person to pay to unlock them. $10-$15 is reasonable and you're left with two choices, either buy it new, or Gamestop is going to have to drop the prices of they're used games to compete. Either way developers and you win. You get cheaper used games and your favorite studio wont have to shut their door forever.
Better yet, how bout no screen at all?
Name one game for the ipad that uses multi-touch other than for zooming in and out.
If Sony and Microsoft want to make powerful consoles they could potentially price themselves out of the market depending on the state of the economy. Personally I'm looking forward to what Sony has to offer and more than likely pick it up, but I can't say the same for families trying to cut back.
The economic situation in Europe is because a few countries are failing (Spain, Italy and mainly Greece) and if they fail it will devalue the Euro which is why there is a lot of money trying to bail these countries out. Apart form those countries who (of course who's people cannot afford luxury items) the rest of Europe is just suffering similar economic problems the world has been suffering since 2007 and that hasn't stopped people buying in Europe £500 Ipads and phones. You will be surprised how people (despite a recession) buy luxury goods. It is usually holidays and things of that nature that suffer
1.lack of 3rd party(even though it birthed the best nba and nfl games of all time).
2.GD-ROM easily pirated to CD-R(and DVD was the the new thing to have)
3.The controller Lacking many of the inputs sony made standard since ps1 like dual analog and 10 buttons including R2 and R3 meaning sacrifices would have to be made to games that take advantage of the many inputs ps1 made standard
ImO dreamcast was the birth of xbox down to the controller sega showed microsoft the blueprint when microsft put windows CE in the console they learned alot from sega
@wiiulee
Just like nintendo copied psp and Vita with single and dual analog on a handheld right sony dont need a pad with a screen thats what vita is for vita and ps4 will be superior than wii U in everyway when it comes to gaming on 2 screens at once and oh yeah taking your game anywhere.
nintendo lacked foresight making 3DS with no vita/ps3/ps4 like functionality It lacked a second analog until vita released
No nintendo did not have analog control or the c stick until the gamecube the n64 stick was digital do your research and I had a dreamcast as well, while it had a lot of gems im not knocking the games one bit it simply lacked key 3rd party
EA games(sports etc.)wanted to be the only sports game on DC when sega declined they stepped away, GTA III, squaresoft games(FF etc.) and key konami games like MGS etc.
NOT TO MENTION CONTROLLER INPUTS THAT SONY MADE STANDARD SINCE PS1 4 FACE BUTTONS,4 SHOULDER(DC has 2) AND 2 ANALOG STICKS(DC has 1) AS WELL AS L3 and R3(DC has None)
The Sega Saturn was the 5th generation console with the N64 and ps1.
The dreamcast was doing not to bad , Sega just buckled. There were about 10M sold after a year and a half - 2 years. Not too shabby.
But yeh , the dreamcast was the first 6th gen console with the ps2 , GC and Xbox following. By the time the xbox came out though , Sega had buckled.
Anyway on topic, the Wii U to me is just a 1080p PS3 with more RAM. The CPU is weak, the RAM is budget RAM and the only saviour in the system is the GPU but by sometime this year or next, when the PS4 and the 3rd Xbox drops, the Wii U will be really poor technically.
£310 for a premium Wii U just seems like a complete rip-off when it's barely a jump from PS3/360 and you get 32GB system store max. The primitive network and slow OS is just another kick in the teeth. Said it before and I'll say it again. A none gimmick Zelda HD or even Majora's Mask HD remake or sequel will make me consider a purchase but I'm waiting and probably for years to come. I've almost lost all faith in Nintendo now.
Eyetoy during ps2, and motion games with voice and face recognition were displayed by sony for ps3, but gamers and media said they didn't want it. Ms does it and its embraced.
MS didn't create the tech ms bough the company and patents. THat company was at a ces show before ms's announcement of natal, i posted it on forums from the pc side and no one cared, ms then bought the company and tech then showed the same exact tech running more than what kinect can do on a pc and every one raved, nothing that natal showed actually came true but people still loved ms for it.
People are taking crazy pills i tell you.
"You've never seen anything like it, the reason why, this is video gaming without any controls"
http://youtu.be/au3UJHItYgc
http://youtu.be/5TaUsSy-f0Y
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://youtu.be/GZMPrlJwt1U
If you really want to be amazed, here is an old video of g speak, truly minority report and blows anything microsoft or sony have to offer
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
The key input controller that no one is using, just like in minority report, is gloves for accuracy.
No but yall right, sony is copying ms. Which is funny, sony has been around the living room doing media since before some of you were born and the ps3 was slammed for being too much like a media device, but now everyone is praising ms for becoming more of a media device? Yeah, that's not fanboyish.
Next gen will not play out the way anyone expects. Many many variables.
With reliable hardware from microsoft, people won't be rebuying their consoles over and over like they did this gen. Also while microsoft is losing ground to google and apple in mobile and enterprise, xbox is gaining ground as a popular family brand in homes. I expect more family/casual gamers from the playstation and nintendo fan base to migrate if they haven't already to microsoft. Lots of new casuals who are more halo/cod friendly than mario friendly.
Sony will have fixed their online network to rival xbox live. I expect sony to not only fight and remind people of its living room media device dominance but steal hardcore gamers from nintendo and microsoft. For example I grew up on nintendo and sega, I don't play nintendo games anymore as an adult, its either playstation or xbox/pc for my choice of more mature selections.
Both will try establish value. One through hardware features one through online and a little of both from both.
Kinect schminect, eyetoy, logitech camera blah blah blah, expect similar offerings from everyone, including stand along tv's soon without a console. SOny introduced all this already and people dismissed it but embraced ms, eventually everyone will just accept this to be standard tech from every company including any new competitors to enter the ring, including samsung, apple, valve etc.
nintendo, needs new exclusives. People are outgrowing mario/zelda. Yes it sells and has a hardcore following but let me use microsoft's halo as an example. Lets assume the 70 million xbox 360 console numbers are accurate. Lets just say every halo sells 5 million copies in two years per release. Its not the 5 million that are important. Its the 65 million other xbox 360 owners that did not buy halo that need something else other than the standard xbox 360 game. The same can be said for nintendo fans. This is where Sony has a nice edge if used properly. Not every sony game may sell like a halo but if your not an uncharted fan sony does offer lots of options from its first party compared to ms.
I bought a wii u for interest/curiosity in the tech and zombiu. I hate COD but bought it because there really isn't any other competitive shooter offered. I have no interest in mario.
Another big factor is the economy and if microsoft plans to support the 360 like sony does ps2/ps3 when the next gen arrives. I still see in the holidays lower income families buy ps2 for their kids, they can't afford a new 360/ps3. Yes even now and with discounts. So I do expect, with ps2 now to be almost fully discontinued, that the 360 and ps3 will see a nice increase in the next two holidays after next gen releases and current gen price drops. Both have an amazing library. I wouldn't count out the original wii selling out the wii u next year either. Lots of great wii deals out there.
For many reasons, I'm sticking with playstation and pc.THe next gen new ips from ms will be interesting to see but if not too exciting, I don't expect much from console third parties that I won't get better and cheaper on pc.
o.k. Hicken now you can come and reply and say that i'm just hating on sony to make them look bad like you always do.
if it was so incompetent, sony wouldnt even capitalize on it, they would do something different. ie not copy it.
sony are the incompetent ones, since their answer to everything is raw power or try to tick every box (ie cd player, dvd player, bluray player, media device, add more buttons to the controller, toaster functionality, doorstop etc)
when it comes to actually coming with a product that is innovative, sony dont have a clue. thats why they simply look to nintendo for inspiration, or as the 'article' put it ''capitalize.' what that should really read is- plagiarize. since that is what sony always do
if the console market was an exam, and sony, microsoft and nintendo were all in the exam room, sony would be peeping at nindendos papers and copying all their ideas and answers. lame
sony needs to cut it out, or get out the business. aren't they happy trolling the ENTIRE electronics market with their over-priced products?
i guarantee you the ps4 will merely be the same as the ps3,2 and 1, in that it will have absolutely no innovation, just more processing power, bigger numbers on the spec sheet for graphic whores and spec sluts to go oooh and aaaah over.
there will be no improvements to the gaming experience, no innovation, simply higher res graphix and smother frame rates. ie ps1 games with shiny shoes on.
without nintendo, sony would be totally lost in the console business, so they should thank god, or whoever the god of plagiarism is, that they even have nintendos 'incompetence' to learn from. because even an incompetent nintendo is vastly more talented and creative than sony.
sonys rnd department is just a few people searching the net for the latest nintendo innovation. then they go about ways to completely rip it off and offer it at a premium price.
suckers
The only reason I want a PS3 is for Quantic Dream.
-Until that changes Nintendo could go back to 8-bit for all I care. I 've been wanting a Retro Zelda for a while now.
I always thought that they should have made an 25th Anniversary game that included all of the Graphics styles of Zelda over the years.