Push Square: "Sony likes to patent a lot of things. The manufacturer is so trigger-happy with its technology registrations that we could probably dedicate the entirety of our editorial output to the innumerable crazy ideas that the company has. The reason that we don’t is because ideas aren’t nearly as interesting as final products, and a lot of time patents amount to little more than wasted paper and bad diagrams. It’s for that reason that you probably shouldn’t worry too much about today’s anti-used games filing."
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They patent loads of stuff for no real use, at some point it'll reach patent-trolling status, they have a tablet controller, kind of like the Wii-U XP and the other crazy s#*t was in-game-advertising "*best brand soda*" lol
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They'll not do it simply because it'll be Suicide, no one would buy a console that doesn't let you buy/sell used games when there are other alternatives...
2) In case everyone else starts doing it
3) More patent trolling
1. They see that some hardware manufacturer may wish to implement this. May not be for consoles, but any number of consumer devices with related media, so now they have a money making patent.
2. To block the idea from ever being used in another device.
3. To not have to print up those online pass cards for inclusion into retail products, which can be lost or stolen, thus causing customer service issues or returned merchandise which they now have to credit the distributor for. They've already removed instruction manuals in PSV games, so those extra cents for those cards can add up. This is a very feasible use of the system, and doesn't necessarily lock out the game for resale. Cross-buy is already using something like this.
4. They patent stuff which may have some use just because. Sony owns thousands of patents, and a lot of them go unused.
5. They actually do want to lock out the used game market on their next system, or any number of other devices they intend to make through Sony itself, or any number of it's subsidiary companies.
So far people are jumping the gun on this patent, and making assumptions that are based on nothing but speculation. As of yet, Sony has done nothing to warrant the hate it's getting over this.
Sony has hired all these engineers over at SCEJ, it kinda has become like that saying "An Infinite number of monkeys can type Shakespeare."
'Cept SCEJ have come up with crappy stuff as well. Like this blocking used games thingy.
http://articles.latimes.com...
Looking back I see Kotaku was all over this, claiming you're not actually going to own PS3 games you buy.
http://kotaku.com/176131/no...
Funny that this has come up again.
2nd hand games have done nothing to the industry in any way to suggest that it hurt devs or publishers. All it comes down to is these big companies wanting to squeeze every bit they can out of the consumer.
If gamestop and other places are such a threat as some of these big wigs claim then go all digital.
As you said these corporations are just looking at the bottom line and seeing just how much money they can keep squeezing out of gamers by claiming how much it's hurting the industry so they can gain enough support to push this idea and gamers would understand and support it. but really the publisher are the real cause of the problem.
i see this ending 2 ways which isn't good. 1)sony looking to be patient trolls. hoping to get paid if another company tries to use it much like what apple does, or 2)sony actually does follow through on this later on down the road and many other companies take note and start following suit because sony was sucessful at doing it.
either way it won't be good for us gamers and the only reason it's not happening now is because gamestop and many other retail outlets still hold some power over selling these items if they feel they will be cut out and may choose not to sell these products. which would hurt these companies since both depend on one another to make money.
The second hand game industry is worth billions. And it's those billions which keep the roundabout swinging for Sony. I know tons of people who ONLY buy pre owned games , obviously because they're cheaper.
It seems like a horrible Selfish and quite frankly disasterous thing to do.
People need to take their heads out of their asses. Games are expensive to make. That's an absolute fact. And just because they make their money back doesn't mean it was worth it. They need to make their money back and then some.
I'm betting if developers/publishers made a piece of used game sales, we wouldn't be having this problem and we would have seen far less studios close down this generation.
Because most games that sell "badly" probably have sold quite well used.
think about it.
I have an old copy of Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions. I bought the game at a trade store a while ago, and play it on my ps3 often. Now being as i literally have no other way of legally obtaining the game,because it's not available digitally, and new copies aren't being printed anymore, i had no other choice but to get it used.
Now, Let's fast forward about 5-7 years when this next generation ends and the ps5 comes out. Let's say there's a ps4 game that isn't available digitally that i've always wanted to play, but never got around to playing, if i get it used, How the hell am i gonna play it if used games are blocked? we'll end up having a TON of games ending up being LOST, because the used copies of the disks are utterly useless.
i truly hope that Sony doesn't go down this road, because this will Cripple the longevity of these games as we know it.
....but if they do, I'll just go to PC. After much crying and swearing and hissy-fits.
OT: Sony would have to be pretty desperate to actually implement something so self-destructive. I'm just going to assume that this is just a knee-jerk reaction to slowing videogame sales.
Oh, not to mention to buy a game used (PC) and trying to buy a CD-Key usually has you spending FULL PRICE on the game. So you'd be paying whatever they sell it for used, then whatever the price is to buy a CD-Key.
It's more about the principle of the thing that would drive me off.
Broken consoles are hardly a hurdle. Games registered to the broken console could easily be transfered to the new system and locked out from the old broken system. Retail stores selling used games are less of an issue given Sony already is pushing harder and harder for digital releases day and date now. .. and with the purchase of Gaikai its clear Sony wants to embrace an all digital future or did they already forgetful about the pspgo?
If I would be game shop I would cladly pay for developers something since without them I wouldnt be able to even sell anything. (Like some solid fee for each sold used game).
So the problem shouldnt be targeting to consumers - it should be targeting to sellers!!!
Everyone should have right to resell they unwanted items in a way that they are useable to second user. Why in the hell they want to milk all the money out of everyone? Isnt it enough when original buyer pays like 60-70 €/$/£ for a video game?!?!
I would TOTALLY understand this if they want to make SOME SORT OF little payment like a activation code/license which would be like 1-3 €/$/£. That wouldnt be bad, but making second user to pay full game price or even close to that is out of the question.
So long story short: They have two options.
1. Make little activation fee for used games (a really small fee!!)
2. Attack to game shops to make them pay for selling their piece of work. (That would be much better if you think the how unfair this situatin actually is.)
...A question that has been asked countless times in the past 6 years or so, despite the fact that the answer is almost always "yes, they can."