Sony has filed a new patent, and it’s one that is bound to generate a lot of controversy if implemented in the PS4.
Commercial Suicide... unless they want to pull a bluff on MS and get them include it in the 720 aswell and then at the last minute turn around and say the PS4 can play second-hand games....
It is a bit confusing why they would go with something like this. It seems to me Microsoft may follow Sony if this tech becomes successful.
"It is a bit confusing why they would go with something like this." What is confusing about this? It's all about the money even for Sony! "It seems to me Microsoft may follow Sony if this tech becomes successful." I wouldn't doubt it, MS is also a company, not just Sony. What is disturbing is this is researched and thought about. I hope it isn't true, but I would most definitely avoid any console (or device) that employs such an anti-consumer scheme!
In consoles the problem isn't piracy, it is second-hand sales, publishers and developers loose money from game rentals and second-hand sales. A such technology, may attract more developers into implementing exclusives or add extra content to PS4 games, as it will help them increase their revenues.
Second-hand copy restriction + twice cheaper games = OK Second-hand copy restriction + same price games = no-no
I would buy ps4 100%. but if I could not play games my friends have, I will consider not to buy ps4... I think this would be bad for me and for sony... I cant afford to buy new games all the time.. I am a gamer damn it......
This tech won't become successful because consumers will give it the finger. They are already giving the finger to Vita for memory cards. These used game restrictions are like DLC. Companies just push more and more to see what they can get away with. Eventually taking it to extremes (see Capcom).
The only way this will work is if they all got together and made it universal. People will just support the PC more if this comes to consoles. The Wii U apparently has its Gamepad locked to the hardware so that you cannot have an imported Gamepad. We already see region locked games so this could be the next step. Going to a service enabled platform is going to hinder used sales as it is. Once people get locked into things like Steam it will all be digital content that is locked to your account. That's the direction we are already headed. So anyone who has bought games like Journey are already adapting to knowing that content cannot be traded or sold (unless you bought the standalone product from the store that is now available).
"It seems to me Microsoft may follow Sony if this tech becomes successful." Other way around. Sony is following microsoft. THe original microsoft ending used games was back in JAN 25, 2012 . http://kotaku.com/5879202/s... Funny how when microsoft is rumored to do this no one bats an eye, but when its out of the sony camp everyone gets the pitch forks and torches. Its like when we talk about proprietary setups. Sony gets slammed for it, but, its microsoft with a proprietary hard drive, charging cable, online pay wall, 2.5 audio jack instead of a standard 3.5 jack for controllers etc.
Oh please Raoh, anyone who spends any time here knows Microsoft is not the most liked company. The Xbox 360 did get slammed for RRoD, they did get slammed for not having a hard drive in every system, they still get slammed for Live fees, they did get slammed for not including wi-fi and how expensive the adapter was, they did get slammed about hard drive prices much like the memory cards now for Vita, they do get slammed for lack of exclusives. Look around, there are tons of negative comments thrown their way too. http://n4g.com/news/928071/... Look at everyone supporting Microsoft. No one batted an eye over it either. Those 91 comments are just a mirage.
Why even mention MS? Is that what you're hoping for? How pathetic! Anyway, its usually Sony who has been following MS trends not the other way around, so Sony may be alone in this escapade.
"Funny how when microsoft is rumored to do this no one bats an eye, but when its out of the sony camp everyone gets the pitch forks and torches." The difference is the MS claim is nothing more than a rumor but in Sony's case they themselves actually filed a patent for it.
@ Raoh ""It seems to me Microsoft may follow Sony if this tech becomes successful." Other way around. Sony is following microsoft. THe original microsoft ending used games was back in JAN 25, 2012 . http://kotaku.com/5879202/s... Funny how when microsoft is rumored to do this no one bats an eye, but when its out of the sony camp everyone gets the pitch forks and torches." The Microsoft rumour is exactly that, a rumour. From nearly a year ago. So no, Sony isn't following Microsoft, Sony has actually filed a patent, Microsoft have not.
I'm fine with this actually since I rarely buy used nor do i borrow games... Besides publishers makes us pay for the online part anyway without lowering down the price even after their games have been in the bargain bins. Maybe this is the final nail to Gamestop's coffin? They say new but they opened my damn game all ready!
Once again people act like every patent is going into effect tomorrow (or even at all). There's a small team at Sony that files patents all day, people. They, like the other of the big three, patent a million things that never get used. That said, I would never buy a console that did that. I want to be able to freely use my games on anyone's system, sell them when/if I finish them and they have little replay value, etc.
I have no doubts that MS will implement the same model for Live and I have no problem with it because I believe that developers/publishers should get paid for their work.
Just making my choice easier, going Wii-U +/or XBX3 if PS4 don't allow used games
To Raoh: Sony originally wanted this on ps3 but clearly decided against it in the end. Look it up
"People will just support the PC more if this comes to consoles" Pc has already this feature among other drm...why would ppl move to pc for that?.
Not going to happen, Sony just filed the patent so they can use it if the wanted to, but they won't because it's a comercial suicide, they're not stupid.
why would this become successful. people would just not buy it if they cant get it used. or they wouldnt upgrade.
As big a fan as I am of Sony and their Playstation brand, if they implement some sort of tech that doesnt allow me to play 2nd-hand games, I wont be purchasing it. Nowadays when the economy is so horrible and people are looking to cut corners and spend less money, they should be looking for ways to ACCOMMODATE their customers, and not screw them over to make an extra buck. Business is business, but greed is still greed. Shame on Sony if they utilize this on the PS4. And shame on anyone else if they follow lead.
i hope this isnt true, if it is im not buying a ps4.
It won't become successful. They should rename the headline to "Sony files patent that suppresses my desire to buy their next console."
They wont do it. Unless they can get Microsoft and Nintendo to use the feature I really doubt it will be implemented. I can see this patent being one of those patents that is patented to stop others using it without paying royalties.
sony patent alot of things and most of them don't see the day light
Yeah, I think they are simply patenting this to increase their portfolio. No way they are going to use it on the PS4.
@ezz, completely agree.
I'm hoping that Sony has done this to protect us gamers from the tyranny of Microsoft, and they've blocked out the possibility of this happening. But we all know that's not going to make them any money.
@HammadTheOne Are you being serious right now? You think Sony gives a fuck about you? Save us from Microsoft? HAHAHAHA you are either the worst troll ever, or the most brain washed fanboy on this site! Best quote for industry ever. "Leap ignorantly to the defense of wealthy game companys, who don't know or care about you!"
It was sarcasm...actually I don't know what it was. But I wasn't being serious.
Considering they had similar functionality built into the PS3 and never used it, it's hard to see that they would implement it now. They may leave it up to the publishers like they did with region locking, or use it for online passes. I think what they'll find though is if they do make this standard across the board, game sales will go down, and many people may turn their backs on the hardware. Looking at the past, or even on this thread, people do not like this. To date it's only been a rumor, or a patent which lays out the groundwork, and it always receives negative reception. If they leave it up to the publishers, then I'm sure they'll be looking at how those publishers sales are affected by their decision to include it. I do think people are a bit too quick to jump the gun on these rumors or patents, but I do believe they should voice their concern over it now, instead of after it's implemented. However, they shouldn't use it as console war stuff, and should act like adults saying how bad it would be.
Never have bought a second hand game and I honestly think this is good. People need to stop being cheap and pay the regular price like regular people do. Don't have enough $ then stick with ios and android platform or find a new hobby. People need to understand that companies suffer from it in the long run because studios don't get any of that $. If you like the game/studio/publisher then support it.