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Submitted by legendoflex 628d ago | opinion piece

Why I Hate The PlayStation 3

PSN, slow patches, and mandatory installs. All of these seriously get in the way of PS3's potential - and that's putting it gently. (PS3, Tag Invalid)

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ssb3173  +   628d ago | Well said
IMO PSN on the PS3 may not be the best, but it is damn right amazing. Yes there are mandatory installs and at times patches, but these usually make the games better as they decrease loading times in game and they make the game run smoother. While I do agree with the writer that slow downloads are a pain, just do something else while it is downloading or just download it at night when sleeping.

PS+ is really awesome, free games and amazing deals, but the thing is that while this may be subscription based, it is not as important as playing online for free, which MS make you pay for. It may have its small faults, but in the big picture is is a really fantastic system.
decrypt   628d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(18)
Derekvinyard13  +   628d ago
the downloads and installs are sometimes frustratingly long. if u don't think that, your blind.
WeAreLegion  +   628d ago | Well said
The PSN now downloads as fast as Steam. It's even faster than the 360. I've been doing speed tests since the PS3 came out. It's SO much faster now. Go try it.
LOGICWINS  +   628d ago | Well said
I said the same thing until last month when I did a test connection on my PS3 and realized that my Internet speed was garbage. Ended up switching to Time Warner's 30MB download/5 upload service. It used to take me nearly a day to DL one full game, now I can do it in an hour TOPS. The issue my friend is your Internet service.
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Ezz2013  +   628d ago | Helpful
i have 4mb connection
those updates and download don't take more than 1 or 2 minutes
and if i download a big game from psn+ i took me about an hour or 2 max
so i don't know WTF are you talking about ?!!
you connection must suck
it's on you
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talisker  +   628d ago
Or maybe you're just patient. When I was raised, patience was a virtue.

For the people commenting over me: game patches are provided by game publishers, not Sony and downloaded from their servers (unless it's a Sony game, of course).
Yourworstenemy  +   628d ago
But that's the fault of your internet speed not Sony! People with fast internet download them in minutes!!
krisq  +   628d ago
@talisker
That's actually not true. I work in game development and patches are on Sony's servers. We do not host them. They're going through similiar certification process as games and we're paying for it.
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GribbleGrunger  +   628d ago
I don't know how long it takes me to download stuff. I set them all to download overnight and they're there when I get up in the morning, installed and ready to go.
ThanatosDMC  +   628d ago
Only 4mb? That's slow. Your at getting like 200-300kbps or less download speed.

I have 20mbps connection and i download games from Steam at 2.5mbps. My PSN downloads are the same. 15gb took about 2 hours.
MaleManSam  +   627d ago
In the 5 years that I've had my ps3 I don't think I've ever had to wait over 45 minutes for a PSN download. I have no idea how anyone could think that that is long for a sometimes 5-10gig sized game...

Albeit I have around 35mbps.. None the less with a connection at around 10mbps it'd still be acceptable to wait a couple of hours.

You just need to upgrade from 24kb broseph.
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playnextgames  +   628d ago
PS+ is the same business model as buying a membership at Sam's Club. They lock you in; you're forced to use their proprietary system and if you don't, you wasted your money. You could say the same about Live.

That being said, I like Sam's Club and PS3 exclusives. PS+ discounts are for either old games, Sony games(that I've already bought,) or crappy games. I prefer neither Live or PS+.
Riderz1337  +   628d ago
I think you are forgetting PS Plus is optional so I fail to see the point you make when you say that "they lock you in". You can unsubscribe whenever you want.
playnextgames  +   628d ago
The one thing I don't make perfectly clear and someone has to find it. "Lock" meant lure in and become obsessed with.

Reply to below(no bubbles left.)

I'm talking from a marketing perspective. Screw the consumer for just 5 seconds. Notice how I said business model in the first sentence.
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Riderz1337  +   628d ago
If you become obsessed with it, does it not mean that you enjoy what it offers? It's your money and you aren't forced to pay for PS Plus but if you see it's a good service then there shouldn't be a problem with being "locked" into it.
violents  +   628d ago
how do they lock you in? I can stop paying for ps+ any time I want.

as for only crappy games. Uh bioshock 2 Infamous 2, uncharted golden abyss, gravity rush, and gotham city imposters just to name a few games I have gotten for free with my subscription. Just right there is 300 USD worth of games I've played for just 50 usd a year subscription.

And they discount all kinds of games all the time new and old for plus subscribers.

and for that matter you site sams club as an example. How are you "locked in" to shopping there? How are you using some proprietary system shopping for bulk food items? Do they have their own monopoly money for sams club or something?
LOGICWINS  +   628d ago
PS Plus doesn't give you free games. You pay for the RIGHT to play rented games that you don't own for the duration of your subscription period. It's a damn good value, but it ain't free. Nothing is FREE in life. There's always a cost, monetary or otherwise.
LOGICWINS  +   628d ago
Four disagrees already? Facts are like leprosy around here lol.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   628d ago
Is there a word for "at no additional cost?" As long as you are subscribed to PS+ you get games at no additional cost. How's that? Or is there nothing in life that comes in at no additional cost?

I mean, no duh it isn't absolutely free. I don't get why people insist on stating the obvious. I really wonder if you guys constantly point out how the second item in "buy one get one free" deals isn't really free.

Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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LOGICWINS  +   628d ago
"As long as you subscribed to PS+ you get games at no additional cost."

But there was an initial cost. Because I paid that initial cost, I'm a Plus member for a year. I WILL be paying the additional cost when I renew my sub in a year.

"I mean, no duh it isn't absolutely free. I don't get why people insist on stating the obvious."

And I don't get why people insist on stating the erroneous. The games aren't "free". Why does saying that bother people?
Hicken  +   628d ago
This argument is so played out.

It's not quite this simple, but let's say you buy Plus for $50, and get ten games valued at $100 total(an average of $10 a game). That's $50 worth of games you DIDN'T pay for.

Next year, you again pay $50 for Plus, and again get ten games that would normally cost $100. You've now spent $100 for $200 worth of games.

And so on, and so on. Ten years of consecutive Plus-subscribed has cost you $500 and netted you $1000 in games. Simple math says half of what you got, you didn't pay for. In other words: FREE.

And that's with nice, easy numbers to use. In reality, you get more than ten games, and the value is far above $100 for them.

And, as usual, that's excluding any and all other services that are included when you pay for Plus. Including these things further cuts down the average cost of each game.

When people talk about the games on Plus being free, we all know they don't mean you don't pay a thing for them.

Just... I mean, it's such common sense. Nobody complains when there's a sale that says "Buy 1, Get 1 Free." They understand that you have to PAY SOMETHING in order to pay nothing for the other thing.

Come on, man...
Murad  +   628d ago
How about Free-to-play games on Steam? the only charge is to give a shit about free to play games isn't it?
reynod  +   628d ago
@Hicken

With that reasoning almost anything on discount can be considered free lol.

If on Christmas holidays i bought a suit that normally costs 1000usd for 500usd since it was on discount? would i consider the suit free?

Of course not. I can consider it at a discounted rate but not free.

@outside_ofthe_box

Funny to what level some of you will go just to label the games free rofl.

You need to pay the 50usd to get those games. If you dont you wont get em. Let us know when u can get those games without paying for the subscription.
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   628d ago
lol You are seriously going to debate this?

***"But there was an initial cost. Because I paid that initial cost, I'm a Plus member for a year. I WILL be paying the additional cost when I renew my sub in a year."***

The initial cost was for the *subscription* not the games... You are paying an additional cost to maintain the *subscription* not the games...

***"The games aren't "free". Why does saying that bother people?"***

Because one, it isn't incorrect to say it's free... You aren't paying for the games itself. Therefore the games are free. Businesses and the like have been doing this for YEARS. Two, as I said earlier we all know it isn't purely free if you really want to get to the technicality of it. You are just stating the obvious meaning we ALREADY KNOW. You are just reiterating what we know and yes it can be a bother to some people. Not everyone is the same.

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@reynod

More like funny to what level some of you will go to label something as not free.

***"You need to pay the 50usd to get those games. If you dont you wont get em. Let us know when u can get those games without paying for the subscription."***

PS+ is a premium service. The fr-- err(I dare not say free...) I mean getting games at no additional cost are incentives to become a member and stay one.
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LOGICWINS  +   628d ago
Hicken, your not factoring in the MAIN reason why PS Plus is so cheap. Plus members don't choose what games they get. The value of what I get for "free" drops considerably when you factor in that many of the games that are offered are dead weight, as in games that people wouldn't even pay $5 to have such as Chronovolt/Rochard etc. You aren't GUARANTEED the full value of every game offered because not every game offered will interest you.

"The initial cost was for the *subscription* not the games."

Whaaa???
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playnextgames  +   628d ago
I've come to the conclusion that only fanboys rate the comments. Edit: 3 votes already. Need I say more?

If you say anything that is Informative, Insightful, Interesting, or Funny you should check out Slashdot game articles because N4G is neither of these.
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Muerte2494  +   628d ago
@ Logicwins...
"Nothing is FREE in life"...Except that I'm not being charged to play with my friends on PSN. You're also talking about a technicality, which (in a way) you're correct. But regardless you don't receive this kind of deal with XBOX LIVE which some consider superior. You can try to knock PS plus all you want but the fact remains is you simply get a greater value as opposed to LIVE. Even if you don't choose to subscribe, you're still able to enjoy PSN. You're not treated like a second class citizen like you are with XBOX LIVE SILVER. I'm both a PS plus member and LIVE subscriber.
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morganfell  +   628d ago | Well said
Damn Logic, do you have any other life than coming in to every single PS thread and doing your level best to find something negative, some detraction about Sony? In a remark above, you acted amazed that you had four disagrees already. Don't you understand people do not read your comments? They aren't debating you? They're just tired of the constant attacks. Personally I think you know very well why you had those disagrees and they fake wounded attitude makes you entire routine even more loathsome. You are worse than the Sony doom and gloom bits because even in the positive articles you are right there with the "let's find the downside". It's tiresome and it's played itself out. I really really wouldn't want to be a person with such a sole reason for existence. No one here, no one believes you are an objective gamer. Even you name is dripping with irony. I was hoping in the new year you would, like so many other trolls just move on with your life. But that apparently isn't going to be the case. Nobody in their right mind thinks for a second you have a PS3 nor have anything for the PS3 except contempt.

It's obvious you are a 360 supporter. There is nothing wrong with that. But did you ever consider spending as much time praising it as you do attacking Sony? Oh wait, that's one of your other accounts.
BitbyDeath  +   628d ago
@reynod, if you paid a dollar for a scratchy and won $1000 from it, do you consider the $999 to be free?

It's like a glass half-full thing i guess, i see it as being $999 that i didn't have before but all you see is the initial value you spent.
Kurt Russell  +   628d ago
I got a Playstation 3. I don't have any free games because I won't PAY MONEY for playstion +. If you think them free you're deluded. It's as free as Netflix... or a magazine subscription :/

(a slight lie on my part, I do have 2 free games compliments of my details being lost by Sony).
nukeitall  +   628d ago
Does anyone of you consider Netflix as providing free content (outside of the trial periode)?

If not, then why would PS+ offer free games?

I play online on XBL for free, after I paid MS!

@Hicken:

It says Buy 1, Get 1 Free, it is literally that. You get to OWN that game. Does PS+ do that? Do I get to play those games after PS+ "subscription" end?

@Outside_ofthe_Box:

"The initial cost was for the *subscription* not the games... You are paying an additional cost to maintain the *subscription* not the games."

I pay the initial and additional cost to maintain my account SO I CAN play online. Does that mean, I'm not playing for online play?

If I'm not paying for the games, then can I access the games without a subscription?

As LOGICWINS says, it ain't free, but it is damn good value if you like and haven't played those games.
insomnium2  +   628d ago
Ummm.. shouldn't it also be said that if you sub for PS+ for 10 years you get to play ALL THE GAMES THAT EVER BECAME FREE during that time.

I enjoy going back to games. I finished GTA 4 like a week ago and I hadn't played it for YEARS. OK GTA4 is not in PS+ as a free game but you do get the point from this right? I got LBP 2 from PS+. I sold my retail copy of said game and got back 15€ when I sold it for example. So my 1 year subscription only cost 25.5€ with that game alone. I also sold Infamous 2 for 9€ etc. etc.

Anyway I get to play all the games I've ever gotten free with PS+ so the annual value of PS+ actually GROWS every year along with the accumulated free games. I'm sure this math is lost on many people though.....sigh..

@kurt russel

Unlike Netflix games aren't the ONLY thing PS+ offers so your logic if flawed.
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MikeMyers  +   628d ago
Logicwins, the Plus service is a lot like Netflix. They offer you content within your subscription and the content they offer that is included is much like the sell-through stuff Netflix offers you. Meaning games that have already gone through their cycle of demand. Most are older titles people no longer buy in large numbers. What they have offered for Vita games seem to be more desired as they are newer and some AAA games like Uncharted.

What people like about Plus over other paid services like Xbox Live is it gives consumers more flexibility and choice. Xbox 360 owners don't really have a choice when it comes to online play. Which I think in todays times doesn't make much sense given how many games almost require online to get the value out of the software. Software you already bought.

The article does bring up some points though and the weaknesses within the Playstation Network. The patches and system updates are more cumbersome to work with, getting friends together and accepting invites is not as friendly as it is on Live. Being able to talk with your friends and constantly staying connected has its benefits. I can play with friends and be within the service and stay within Xbox Live and it feels much more integrated than Playstation Network. Is that worth paying for? That depends on who you ask. The Plus service is becoming the focus for Sony by bringing in features like cloud saves and automatic updates. So in a sense it's a bit like Live Gold and Live silver where they are bridging themselves from free to a paid model. Thankfully Sony still offers online play for free but you can see the growth of services will be thrown at the Plus model.

Microsoft excels in this area because they specialize in operating systems. They keep the gamer playing because they make sure it is still a console like experience. They make sure the patches are small and that everything just flows within it. Look at Playstation Home. It would be so much better if they actually made it work within the xmb. Instead it's a slow connection that breaks the experience with long loads and feels isolated from the start screen. I don't use Home anymore because it just doesn't work the way I want it to. Miiverse looks to be in the right direction where it's all part of the experience.

The other point they bring up is the mandatory installs. So now we are getting away from the console experience and becoming a sub-par PC experience. People who buy consoles want to be able to just turn the thing on and plug in a game and start playing. They don't want to have to face a 15-minute update or wait for a 4GB game to install.

So as we can see we can pick out faults while still saying the PS3 is a great system with great games. You don't have to be a fanatic and make it appear like it has no issues. You also don't need to just highlight its faults and make it appear that the system is terrible. These topic headers will stay like this because of the reaction. We are already over 100 comments which goes to show how passionate some people are about these things. Just keep one thing in mind, it's only a entertainment device. So don't get all emotional about the media or people picking on it.
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   628d ago
LOOK...
MY POINT is that it is not incorrect to say that you get free games for being member of PS+. I've said yes technically it isn't absolutely and purely free, but so what? Am I not allowed to say that I can watch videos on youtube for free because I have pay for the internet? Maybe so not unless I'm getting free wifi right? But even then watching videos on youtube isn't technically free because I have to pay for a device such as a laptop in order to use the free wifi. See how silly this is lol?

At the end of the day I guess it's all about how you yourself perceive it. In buy one get one free deals you can either see it as you getting something free after you paid for the first item OR you can see it as paying half price for both items. Both are correct pick whichever makes you happy.

BitbyDeath made another perfect example: "if you paid a dollar for a scratchy and won $1000 from it, do you consider the $999 to be free?"

I'd personally see it as getting a $1000 for free as I paid the $1 for the scratchy and gained the $1000 after I've met the conditions of wining. Others may see it as getting $999 free. Others may see it as paying a $1 to get $999. All are correct in some sense, whatever makes you happy at the end of the day.
KrisButtar  +   628d ago
i have ps+, i agree with you i get free rentals with my subscription, i dont pay for plus for the instant game collection, i pay for it because of the auto-updating, and the 40%/50% off price disounts. the free rentals are just a bonus as i would be paying anyways.

on topic, i understand where the writer was coming from, with the installs and updates. but the same could be said about the xbox, as i turned it on at xmas as i got halo 4, and i spent over hour going through updates and then had to install the game.

granted both systems have to wait and install and update, but which ever 1 is your primary, is going to be the one that is going to take less time as its already up to date because you update it more often
DragonKnight  +   628d ago
@nukeitall: So I take it you think that online play is something you should have to pay twice for? I mean you bought the game for $60, it was developed with an online portion that 3 of 4 platforms let you play for free, and yet you have to pay to play a game online. So PC, Wii U, and PS3 are getting free online, and you're paying $120 base for one game and that's not including your ISP. Where is the value in that? "well I also get party chat." So does the PC for free, so does the Vita for free. Anyone with common sense should see the common denominator is the word free. Cool, you get to play Xbox Live games whenever you want even after unsubbing to Live. Try playing them online without subbing to Live Gold. You can't. PC users, Wii U users, PSN + Subscribers don't have to pay to play any game online. And the discounted games are theirs to keep forever and they don't have to be subbed to Steam, or PSN + or whatever to play those games. When's the last time you got a free game from MS on Live, or even one that was worth playing? When's the last time you played an online only game on Live without paying for it? Never? Yeah I thought so.
MrBeatdown  +   627d ago
@nukeitall

"It says Buy 1, Get 1 Free, it is literally that. You get to OWN that game. Does PS+ do that? Do I get to play those games after PS+ "subscription" end?"

Wrong.

Want to get technical on ownership? Let's get technical.

"Through PSN, you may participate in SCEA's online community, play games online, and PURCHASE ACCESS to content and services, such as new levels for your favorite games, movies, television shows or original programs such as Qore™."

http://us.playstation.com/s...

Sorry. You don't own the games. You are only paying for permanent access rights.

Plus or not, you don't own the games. You have access. The only difference is the conditions of access. In one scenario, you pay a one-time fee upfront. In the other scenario, you must maintain an active Plus subscription. And both scenarios require adhering to the TOS, so even then "permanent" is still under specific conditions.

Unfortunately for your argument, the only real difference is the permanency of access rights. Google the word "free". You won't find any definition that involves permanency, which means your argument doesn't hold any water.

If you want to call playing online free using your XBL Gold account or watching a movie through Netflix free to make yourself feel better, go right ahead.

People (and businesses for that matter) only use "free" as a simple alternative to "at no additional cost" when something additional transaction-wise needs to be done to obtain a specific item, like "buying" that second "free" bag of chips in a Buy 1 Get 1 deal, or getting "free" two-day shipping through Amazon Prime, or going back to the PS Store to "buy" the "free" games in Plus. If it bothers you enough that certain Plus games are referred to as free, and you need to compensate by calling your online play through XBL Gold free, even though no additional transactions are required and their is no "paid" online play after buying Gold to distinguish it from, go right ahead. It's awfully redundant, but whatever floats your boat.
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solidjun5  +   625d ago
" Even you name is dripping with irony."

Been saying this for years. What's more amazing is the amount of bubbles he has considering all the trolling he does. He's quite frankly a clever troll.
fr0sty  +   628d ago
"Why I kick at dead horses that have been beaten to death years ago and use flamebait headlines to start fanboy wars in the comments section so I can get more hits on my website."
mcstorm  +   628d ago
Are people still coming out with crap like this? Why do people have to keep telling us why the like X over Y. Its simple buy the things you like and don't buy the things you don't like.

I am a gamer and I own more all games consoles on the market at the moment because I want to play games like Zelda, Mario, Halo, Forza, GT, UC ect and the only way to do this is to own them all.

Gaming is not about who has which console or whos has more power or if its free to play on line. Its about what fits you best its as simple as that.
fermcr  +   628d ago
"PS+ is really awesome, free games"

I've said it and i will say it again. PS+ does not offer free games. You pay for PS+ so those games are not free... those games are a loan while you have PS+. When your subscription of PS+ finishes, or you update your subscription (€€€€), or you can't play those "free" games. The main objective of PS+ is to lure you and lock you in. If you leave all those "free" games are dead weight in your hard drive.

Is PS+ is a good deal?
Don't know. Everybody have different opinions about PS+.
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InMyOpinion  +   628d ago
I think you need to re-emphasize it so people here understand.

PS+ is free for you but not for your parents who pay the monthly fee.

Is it really debatable? Something you pay for isn't free. Not questioning the value of PS+ in any way but come on, let's not throw all logic out the window.
Oh_Yeah  +   628d ago
Coming from someone with no bias towards any system. This is where the 360 shines, yes overall the system is faster than ps3..There's no ifs or ans about that. It's faster with everything, the wireless N card they put in the 360 improves dl speeds, the games you download from the market don't need to be installed..Once you download that's it, you can click and play, patches dl faster, the games usually have less load time over ps3 (when installed) now the ps3 actually has exclusives and free online..If you can only get one it's better functionality 360 vs better content ps3
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morkendo23  +   628d ago
Is this guy SERIOUS??? article about "why i hate ps3"

how about "how i hate getting up each morning"

do this guy realize those MANDATORY installs for our protection from hackers!!!! what a block-head.
Would not be any patches if developers would get off they're arse and produce a full unglitched game. there for Sony not the blame for half arse work.
IAmLee  +   628d ago
I don't see how Someones opinion on a console is actually news worthy? All articles like this do, is just spark debate amongst fanboys...
rainslacker  +   628d ago
There is something to be said for analytical review on a systems features, benefits, downsides, etc. Sometimes that information can be invaluable to someone buying the system, as some of the points brought up may be important to them. This is particularly true early in a consoles life...like the Wii U recently.

They should however remain unbiased, and note the points of interest, both negative and positive, without offering commentary, which many of these articles fail to do.
SegataShanshiro  +   628d ago
Oh the butthurt by Sony fanboys is just DELICIOUS! get both consoles and stop being a fan boy.
kikizoo  +   628d ago
It's the best : free, not always p2P

psn+ also, with free games (yes free, if you consider subscription for beta, lower prices, etc and the price you have to pay on xbox just for playing the gamle you have bought !)

"why i hate... " : because you are a stupid fanboy, not a gamer..give them the best games, the best hardware, free games, etc and they are talking about "mandatory install" and other stupid stuff XD
solar  +   627d ago
i dont hate my ps3, i just hate the militants who cant criticize their platform of choice. like lemmings they believe Sony does no wrong. it's a really good proprietary system, i pray my 60gb launch fatboy never dies. i like my backwards compatibility.

other than UC2, the ps3 doesnt have the killer IP's the ps2 had.
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solidjun5  +   625d ago
@solar
funny coming from a 360 fanboy.

"other than UC2, the ps3 doesnt have the killer IP's the ps2 had."

whatever floats your boat buddy.
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joeyisback  +   628d ago
sure is funny slow updates i have 50mb internet only take secs for me also it depends on ur internet connection speed isnt p2p servers like 360
Theyellowflash30  +   628d ago
These type of articles should not get approved. The PlayStation 3 is fine. Every system has its issues, and no system is perfect. Not even Xbox Live. Nobody would even pay for the service if you could play games online for free. All the apps and crap they shove in your face are free online.

But whatever, this is a troll article, from a author looking for hits.
MmaFan-Qc  +   628d ago
but but but.... the ps triple has no games, thats what experts told me on the internet.
legendoflex  +   628d ago
There are legitimate reasons to have experiences that make you HATE any of the platforms, even if it's just a temporary, isolated hate that's centered on a specific feature or set of features or set of setbacks. (i.e., Wii's lack of a centralized online network, 3DS's lack of a built-in second stick, etc.), even while the platform has some terrific strengths otherwise. That's really the spirit of this piece.
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GarandShooter  +   628d ago
Really? Hate an inanimate object? The obvious overstatements lend themselves better to drama queen hit seeking than intelligent discourse.

Don't like that? Ok, how about this?

Mental health professionals tell us that hate arises from fear. Why not lay back down on the couch and tell us why you fear the PS3? (or any platform you hate for that matter)

You'll feel better once you face your fear and get it off your chest, and just hearing yourself say these things aloud may give you a different perspective.
majiebeast  +   628d ago
If you hate ps3 then you dont like good games.
5eriously  +   628d ago
or they are just an "anti PS3", brainless and bored, typical internet troll and hate the PS3 because they do not have one and/or cannot afford one.
dubt72  +   628d ago
I hate ps3, and I love good games, so your point has been invalidated. Good day, sir.

Edit: I really can't stand the mushy dualshock.
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solidjun5  +   624d ago
But you're a troll. You don't count.
pandaboy  +   628d ago
I actually think the ps3 is the worst console ever made and I hate the console for the same reasons as the author. Yet, I'd own it over any other console this gen because of the exclusive games and free online. Though if MGS4 was on xbox I'd kiss playstation goodbye.
ShaunCameron  +   628d ago
Um. What good games?
Oldman100  +   628d ago
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yewles1  +   628d ago
Okay, after 475 other times,previously, this kind of article should now be considered duplicate.
Ezz2013  +   628d ago
and they say this site is over run by ps3 fanboys
if this site is overrun by them
we wouldn't have those kind of blogs who made by fanboys live in a basement
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omi25p  +   628d ago
Have you read the comments on this article. They are all pro PS3.
GamerzElite  +   628d ago
Why I Hate The PlayStation 3 : PSN, slow patches, and mandatory installs. LOL PS Store has day 1 digital downloads stupid. Patches make ur console stronger and reliable and as i remember the system patches are not more than 115Mb, you must have worst internet connection, so u afraid to download these patches. Even XBox has same dear. Free vs Paid online.... ohh wow.. let me remember my Black ops 2 multiplayer sessions.. Ha ha ha I paid for gold Live and shi* I have Lag, where should I complain fanboy? Wanna proof watch my video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Best console this gen. Most supported console this gen. ps4 is an automatic buy for me. Only company that put core gamers first even in hard times. Hats off to them.

Can't wait for ps4!
GamerzElite  +   628d ago
I have both console but my primary is PS3, All XBox fanboy only argue abot 2 things. 1. Party Chat and 2. Paid online. Party chat I never used it cause my computer and cell phone can do this, why I stop and start a chat in a middle of game. Online I have only one word, just play BO2 multiplayer on XBox once and then argue about Paid and free....
Murad  +   628d ago
I totally agree. I currently own all of the current gen consoles, not the Wii U tough. However, out of the 3 my first favourite is the PS3, the second is the Wii, and the last is my PC. Xbox 360 doesn't even come close to being a good system. Games like Alan Wake, and maybe Gears of War 2 are worth buying the system, however Gears of War 1 is something that is far too overrated for my own sake. While the Ps3 and PC has a better community, better exclusives, in particular: MGS, GOW, White Knight, and even Katamari Forever. And for some odd reason whenever there is an exclusive on the Xbox 360, it always shows up on Steam, besides the Gears title.
MyCarAndMyGuitar  +   628d ago
2013.
iamnsuperman  +   628d ago
Yep and we still get things like this. The most depressing part is 2013 is only going to get worse if the rumoured new consoles are coming out.
The_Con-Sept  +   628d ago
I never had any problem with install times. FFXI had the worst install time across all platforms. That b took 4 hours to install. Xbox has a lot of security issues when it comes to their way of downloading DLL files to the 360. That's why more online games are ruined because of modders.

Every so often my friend calls me to tell me about how his game day was ruined by hackers on cod or halo. Anti gravity and infinite rocket launchers. Wall hacks. Stuff like that is much harder to do on the PS3. It still happens to me once a month on PS3 but not as often as 360.

At least pc has punk buster.
Murad  +   628d ago
Dude, I love the PC. Everyone on PC has companies like Steam, GOG, who actually give a SHIT about gamers, and developers.
isarai  +   628d ago
Never understood where people get this "PS3 haz slow downloads" i downloaded, installed, updated, and started Just cause 2 in like an hour. most of that time was downloading the game itself which i spent playing Sleeping Dogs, so it really only took like 10mins of my time. people need the check their ISP and network setup before they start blaming the console
mattgdumb  +   628d ago
you just contradicted yourself and are giving way to the article you clearly stated you had to wait an hour just to play just cause 2, fuck that shit sony failed so hard with their patches it actually drove me back to xbox, why the fuck would i want to wait and hour just to play a game you must have no life, like if say a buddy comes over and wants to play, what am i gonna do put in the game and make him sit there and wait sony= fail
isarai  +   628d ago
1hr to download 4gb+, and update the game isn't long at all bro
r21  +   628d ago
Hey xbox fanboy, xbox gets patches too. So what, lets see, if you're gonna play let me guess CoD or Halo 4 and a patch comes out, Im gonna assume you're gonna wait for the patch to finish, arent you? Or are you gonna rage at MS for the patches. Jeez.
clevernickname  +   628d ago
Perhaps downloads in the U.S. are superior to the service we get in Canada from Sony. That's the only conclusion I can come to given that system updates, game patches, game downloads, and other downloads from the Sony store here in Canada on my 100 MB Shaw connection take a ridiculous amount of time.

Game updates on my 360 take literally seconds to download. It's a weird disparity.

I absolutely love my PS3, but I hate the download speeds.
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Nes_Daze  +   628d ago
Thought the author would actually make a good point somewhere but didn't.

I had to do 2 downloads to get on Live yesterday, and when I actually played 2-3 matches online(Blops2), my controller's batteries, yes batteries, died, and I didn't have any spare batteries around, so screw my gaming for the night, lol. Oh and I get kicked out of party chats, which is always fun.

So Yes....remind me again why I would hate my PS3 in comparison to an xbox360.
strigoi814  +   628d ago
well the updates are more likely helpful. At least i know they are still thinking about my ps3..and besides the updates are not really only focused on gaming it for the hardware stability..
black911  +   628d ago
I cant wait to see what his 360 hate article says.
TekoIie  +   628d ago
"For anyone who knows how painfully slow Sony’s downloads are, you will probably empathize with me here. On a 50 Megabit connection this could be as fast as 20 minutes (we’re thinking realistically) but instead, we waited almost an hour and a half for patches to download and install."

Big freaking WHOOP! Your telling me you cant find something to do for an hour? I always laugh at this argument. It implies that you have nothing else to do.

Sure you want to play the game NOW but there is no harm in going and getting a drink and hey look one minutes up already! Y'know what!?!? lets make a sandwich! Oh gee wiz thats another 3-4 mins gone already so now lets take our time to eat that sandwich... while on the internet!!!!

Also lets keep it real here. We all know that as soon as we lose access to our internet its like living in a 3rd world country so why not get the most out of it while its there right? But dare I suggest you play games on another system you own while waiting? I know many own just a PlayStation 3 but we all have PC's. So find a PC game you can run and enjoy watching that time fly by a little faster :)
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r21  +   628d ago
This, I mean come on, its not like people are gonna stare at the screen and wait for it to complete. When i have a patch to complete, I just play on my vita or surf the net till it finishes.
mattgdumb  +   628d ago
but why the hell should i have to wait an hour for something that should readily be available you fanboys are so blind its unbelievable i dont wwant to wait an hour just to play a game so xbox is the way to go
Yourworstenemy  +   628d ago
Very nit picky imo but each to there own I suppose. My internet is very very slow and waiting for downloads doesn't make me throw tantrums like a spoilt child who MUST HAVE IT NOW!!!! If the person who wrote this is over 8 years old then he really needs to grow up!
boybato  +   628d ago
Agree. Get a better ISP biaaatch.

Anyway, I think this article is only one from a series of "Why I hate _______" stating the negatives from those consoles.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   628d ago
2013 and article like this pops up. Well writer, lucky for you the PS4 is underway. (Rolls eyes)
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Riderz1337  +   628d ago
Uhh at the people arguing over if the games you get on PS Plus are actually free or not. Let me just explain it to you like this. You pay 50$ per year for a subscription, therefore anything which you get that EXCEEDS this 50$ purchase is technically considered FREE because you have not paid for it. So 3 games a month (1 retail game and 2 PSN games), 36 games a year. Even if each game is only worth 2$ (which they aren't but w.e) you are getting 72$ worth of content, 22$ of which was FREE. This doesn't even include the AMAZING discounts you get which adds up to money you save plus all the extra features such as exclusive betas/demos and cloud storage.

For the love of god can you all stop debating on whether or not the games on PS Plus are "free". Technically a part of it is free, but not all of it.

Edit - Also, this article sucks.
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nunley33  +   628d ago
Good points but don't forget about the auto game patch downloads and lets plus download those patches people complain about sitting through. With plus, you dont sit through them, they're either done while your sleeping or in that background at a time of your choosing. Its a real luxury i luv using and you were still underselling ps plus. You actually get hundreds of dollars worth of content and game for that $50, so it's value can't be denied.
csreynolds  +   628d ago
Xbot alert! Xbot alert! What? Oh c'mon, you were all thinking it... *winks*

Every console has it's problems. The PS3 is a great bit of kit overall. Yes, patch downloads are sometimes a bit large, and yes game installs are also quite large nowadays, but really this is a given; when games get bigger (be it in terms of content, visuals, engines/mechanics etc.), so does the amount of information required to run them - generally, anyway. And only some of what you say about PS+ is true.

I would suggest you man up a bit. This rant makes you sound impatient and ungrateful. Not a great start to a new year of gaming 'journalism'...
wenaldy  +   628d ago
Its freaking 2013 and we still have this kind of article.
SaffronCurse  +   628d ago
The download speeds really depend on your Isp and sometimes even where your ps3 is located in your house, moving it closer to your router/modem will definitely boost up the signal connection.

For me though my ps3 is picking up 15-20mbps on a wireless signal and it takes less than 10 minutes to download most patches, either that or i just let ps+ do it while im sleeping.

Why are mandatory installs are negative? I mean the only downside of it is that you have to give up some free space but it's not much, saves your BD drive from an early grave.
Mister_G  +   628d ago
PS+ is the ONLY way I can backup my Dark Souls game saves (to the Cloud), so I got it for that reason.

But now that I have it I must say that PS+ is great value. For the price of 1 game you get loads of free stuff including early access to beta/demos.

Hope it carries forward onto PS4.
Williamson  +   628d ago
Wow what a dumb article! But I expect to see an article of "why I hate the wii u" or "why I hate the xbox" soon.
AliC  +   628d ago
I pretty sure this websites next article will be something like "Why I hate trees".
Bladesfist  +   628d ago
thanks for the laugh :)
csreynolds  +   628d ago
Leaf it out...

Ugh. Sorry. Even I winced after that.
League_of_Draven  +   628d ago
I don't think anyone gives a shit why you hate the PS3.
Furesis  +   628d ago
hate is such a strong word
Optical_Matrix  +   628d ago
PSN isn't the problem. It's the PS3's OS that's the problem. There's nothing that separates XBL and PSN except for the fact the 360's OS is designed far better than the PS3. And when you include OS level features like party chat/cross game chat, the Xbox brings the seemingly better package.

But even with that, I think this myth that PSN is some kind of ghetto when it comes to content and online play is asinine to put it lightly. It's perfectly functional, has an insane amount of content and I use it to play games online nearly every day.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   628d ago
You guys are like sheep reading this article, its just flamebait... Oh flip I just clicked on, guess I am a sheep to.
TheDivine  +   628d ago
Psn is crappy, updates suck, the os is boring and sluggish, but the games are awesome. What do i care about the os while im balls deep in uncharted 3 or heavy rain? Yea updates and installs suck but thats once before a long ass game. I play games so the other stuff while it adds to the experience isn't a big deal. Xbl is snappy and cool, wii-u is slow as molasses, who cares if the games rock. Vita has fast, snappy os and quick updates but not enough games. 3ds is more basic but has more games. Which do I play more? 3ds of course. Just an example of why hardware and software aren't important as games. It's why I'm still playing the shit out of xenoblade, pandoras tower, last story, and other m. Wii sucks but the games don't.

Knowledge.
Kicked.
Soak it up.
MAULxx  +   628d ago
I agree with the article for the most part.

Now if PS3 was my only game machine then I could probably tolerate the long game updates. But, since I have a choice, PS3 is really only for a handful of games.

I too hate the long downloads & long installs.
I hate the browser... its really a pain.
I hate the new PS store. Loved the old one.
Used to enjoy going to the PS store each week & seeing whats new. Now, I don't bother as I shutter at the thought of loading the store & finding something or browsing it.
What a PAIN IN THE BALLS compared to the nice layout of the old store.

Now I will play Demons Souls, Dark Souls & a few others on PS3 but I don't buy much for it anymore.
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