As we look forward to a new generation, can we look at the current war and declare a winner? Or should we wait few more years before making a decision?
yes, ps3 is the clear cut winner.
we have to look no further than next year to see that PS3's the clear winner. Same multiplats as the Xbox, many more exclusives, unique games and GOTY's.
Yes, console that lost the most market share, didn't make an overall profit for it's manufacturer and is in 3rd place is the CLEAR CUT winner. I'm gonna go with no on that one. Wii may have been number 1 in sales but 3rd party software sales were lackluster. Xbox 360 may have had great exclusive and 3rd party sales, but having released first and then being overtaken by wii and having its lead over the ps3 dramatically reduced to almost nothing means it clearly isn't the winner. Ps3, great exclusives and great 3rd party support from both developers and gamers but as mentioned still has yet to recover all launch and production losses. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it doesn't currently sell for a profit, I'm saying the small quarterly profits it has made do not amount to the 5 billion they lost launching it. Plus exclusives recieve less than deserved sales while rehashes like Assassin's Creed and CoD sell more than almost all their exclusives. There is no clear cut winner this generation. Except maybe the gamers themselves.
lol @ sales argument.
*sigh...for the last time AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, THE PS3 IS NO LONGER IN THIRD PLACE!!
@kobe357 http://www.theverge.com/201... ps3 is no longer 3rd place they are tie at 70m
The 360 had a year head start only in Japan and the US. Everywhere else it was 18 months or more. The clearcut winner isn't based on sales though. It's founded upon the ability to consistently deliver great games, a variety of titles, and groundbreaking features that enhance the game experience within and titles and beyond. Only one company and their console really managed that feat - Sony and the PS3.
Going by sales and sales alone? Today it would be the Wii. Going by sales growth? The PS3. Looking at the beginning of the gen it would be 360. But as a gamer I'm more focused on the games. I feel the PS2 last gen was the best console due to the sheer number of exclusives it had. So for me the PS3 is my choice as of today for the console of this generation for the same reason.
I think that's a darn good summary. Bubble.
well said +1
That's talking in a smart way. +1
I find it hard to pick a winner this generation until it is completely over and all consoles have stopped selling. Overall this generation of consoles has been the best. All together, all three systems have sold close to 240 million and I don't think we have ever seen that before. The best part of it, that number continues to grow. While the games don't really compare to last gen or the gen before it, for the most part, it will go down as being one of the best generations for Video Games, while this generation will go down for being the best, for how well the consoles have sold.
This generation of consoles won't stop selling for a looooong time. Heck the PS2 is still selling after being on the market for over 12 years.
I'd buy another PS2!
"I find it hard to pick a winner this generation until it is completely over and all consoles have stopped selling." I appreciate the enthusiasm but nobody's gonna care how the PS3 and 360 sale once the PS4 and 720 are out and at full force. Think about it, once next gens released the "sales war" will start all over again with PS4 and 70 (dear god). Hardly anybody will compare sales to PS360 anymore. I could careless where there at now, let alone what it'll look like in the next year in a half.
The whole point of my comment was "I" find it hard to pick a winner of this generation. I will move on to the next gen, but that doesn't mean people will forget about this generation. It's funny that you say nobody will care. Did you see all the comments in the PS2 article when Sony declared they stopped shipping PS2s in Japan? The system sold 150+ million and still selling in some parts of the world, people will care after next gen, because the systems from the past gen will still continue to sell. A new sales war will start, but that doesn't mean the 7th gen war will end until all consoles have stopped selling.
Funny, cuz the numbers of the PS2 are still important. So are the PS1's numbers, for that matter. Hell, half the argument for why the PS3 isn't doing well is because it hasn't sold like the PS2. You can SAY it, but reality bears things out rather differently. Nice try, though.
sales wise the wii games wise the ps3
Sony lost about half of its userbase to the xbox 360 while selling the PS3 at a loss with a stupid price tag for the first few years, Sony in general is losing money left right and center and its only the PS brand keeping them even alive now. Microsoft released a console which failed for about 2 years before they attempted to fix the problem, paying for online play and high prices on a better HDD, Microsoft lost a tonne of money with the RROD issues. Nintendo created a console which was just a reboxed Gamecube and had nothing but shovelware on the system and had the lowest software attachment rate, causing Nintendo to lose money. Nobody won, everyone is loser... It's cost everyone millions of $$$ and for what? What is the point of Sony selling what ever amount of PS3s they sold if they only started making money on the ones they sold a year or 2 ago, how many consoles did MS have to replace at their cost?
Console are almost always sold at loss during launch times. They have to get a customer base so third parties will develop for the system. Then they make those losses up in software sales. Why does everyone hold these types of business strategies againsts sony when most companies do things the exact same way?
It's a fallacy to say that Sony lost "half its userbase." That's entirely untrue. The gaming world has only grown in the past decade and there's no chance the PlayStation brand has half the fans it had in the PS2 generation. No chance at all. On top of which, the PS3 could very well end up selling in the vicinity of 125 million units or so (being at 70 million with at least three years left of full sales, and at a lower price tag), so that's important as well. Oh, and it it's also important to note that the PS3 has sold the SAME number of consoles worldwide as the Xbox 360 has...and in one year LESS time.
How did nintendo as a company in your write up "lose"? They gained more fans than they lost in the GC Era(contrary to popular belief, THAT is when they lost "gamers") Have only posted 1 yearly loss, but only while heading into the next gen and sold the most consoles, with ds set to overtake ww ps2 sales. In my opinion, the wii is grossely underapreciated, but I can see the case raised by others here on principle. But on MONEY? Nintendo made more than sony/Ms,(potentially combined, if we are talking hard assets) and are sitting pretty peachy right now... so I would see those "losses" as hicups compared to the other problems many others have faced... @[email protected]
who one........ the consumer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In terms of supplying AAA games ps3 wins hands down but to each his own.
360, hands down.
The 360 crapped its self over the past few years. The PS3 started like crap and improved significantly. The Wii grabbed a new market but ultimately never felt right for me. This is all game based, any other arguement is wholly irrelevent.
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