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SCE Patents Depth Sensing Camera: Use Your Fingers as a Gun

Over the course of the year, we’ve been uncovering patent after patent from Sony Computer Entertainment for a 3D depth sensing camera similar to the Kinect. This month’s patent once again suggests that Sony are working on a camera akin to the Kinect, with this one highlighting how your fingers could be used like a gun.

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TrendyGamers1281d ago

Were they inspired by Dead Space 2?

Irishguy951281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

By the Xbox ad obviously. And then Butlers slagging off of it. "pew pew".

Don't tell me people forget
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Yes. Karma's a right ****

"Come on, who wants to use their hand as a gun?? What is this third grade? Pew, pew, pew...hehehe"

More than likely Dead space 2 was influenced by the 2 above things as well

RuleofOne343 1281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

Thank you for posting these videos , I can't stop laughing about how they laughed at it but now the tide has changed .

Kur01281d ago

You must have never heard of the PSEye then? Or the Eye Toy? Both came out before Kinect.

Nitrowolf21281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

you guys do know your picking at a Patent, which at the majority of time goes no where other than for legal reasons right?

People are acting like Sony actually has something working, when at most this is just a paper filed that could go anywhere. They have been doing so many controller related Patent lately, its hard to say what they are doing.

Anyway, if SOny does go this route and go with the Kinect idea (I know they have PS Eye) I am going to be real upset. If this does make it into the next console, I don't think it's something I would want to use. Can you guys imagine if Sony or MS made their eyetoy/Kinect mandatory for the controller? I just want buttons for my home console. Leave the other stuff to Nintendo. Not that it's a bad thing, they just have the better market for it and can actually sell it.

BTW I love the xbox commercial, still one of my all time fav from them.

ABizzel11281d ago

I seriously doubt this is for a Kinect like experience.

I this all but confirms that the dualshock 3 will be a break apart PS Move controller, and the ps eye is getting an upgrade. There was a patent regarding a break-away controller from sony a while back, and recently there were some "leaked" documents showing a move controller using current parts in a dualshock setup.

Blacktric1281d ago

" I can't stop laughing about how they laughed at it but now the tide has changed ."

Because they sure as hell "released" a product that uses the tech and encourages people to use their fingers as a gun...

Right?

Remember when Sony also patented five billion other weird things? Funny how you get a sudden amnesia when it comes to things that'd nullify your trolling attempt.

darthv721281d ago

You do know there was also the live vision camera right? People often compare the eyetoy to the kinect but they forget about the live vision.

eyetoy is to the ps2 what live vision is to the 360.

PSEye is an updated eyetoy but the same cant be said about kinect being an updated live vision.

when you add move to the PSEye it gives the camera something to actually focus on with the glowing sphere.

Imagine if the person were to wear a mo-cap suit that was compatible with something like kinect or even the PSEye....it would track the finer points of movement much better than they currently do.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

To bad MS wasn't inspired by sony platform support. To bad for xbox only guys..

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sikbeta1281d ago

Kinect proved that people wanted to waggle their arms to enjoy a casual game, same way wii-mote proved that people wanted to waggle their arms with a joystick to enjoy a game, Sony is doing what it already did:

Wii-mote <-> Move

Kinect <-> stuff Tracking patents to use with the next Eyetoy

blackbeld1281d ago

Maybe Sony only wants to make money out of it. Sell this patent to Microsoft? Who knows.

It's just nice to own this patent for just in case.

greenpowerz1281d ago (Edited 1280d ago )

BOOM!

Sony better hope they can copy/sneak more than just using fingers. Looks Like Sony won't be tailing/riding Nintendo's Wiimote and now the Wii-u tablet, after trying with MOVE.

WTF is PlayStation EYE? What does it have to do with 3D motion tracking? Is PS Eye suppose to be the father of PC camera tech? Some how taking the credid for multi array microphones, binocular dual camera's that are infrared with advanced software with a onboard procesor.

Yes Kinect came from PS eye ;) and not from PC camera tech &(from Isreal military surveillance technoligy and savilan partners in the US and Isreal)

MSFT got Full 3D skelital motion tracking from PS eye and not 3DV SYSTEMS with Zcam.

Maybe Kuro is joking? It's like pointing out a company copying the new cellphone to cellphone bump/touch transfer tech in some phones like the Galaxy and some one rebutting with a mention of 1990's block cellhpones.

Nes_Daze1280d ago

You just set yourself up to be owned, and you were, congrats...

TheRealSpy1280d ago

Massive hypocrisy in the gaming community. especially on n4g.

SilentNegotiator1280d ago

Making a patent doesn't even necessarily mean that they'll use it directly (for ps4, or whatever). They're a corporation; they patent a dozen things every week.

pixelsword1280d ago (Edited 1280d ago )

I'm telling ya, the sixaxis was all I needed for motion gaming. I don't want to hold a wand or no controller at all. That will suck if that's the main way you play the PS4.

fr0sty1280d ago (Edited 1280d ago )

You do know Sony has had a patent for a ball shaped controller for years, right? I don't see us controlling Ps3 with a ball. Patents are filed any time anyone in a company like Sony's R&D dept. comes up with an idea that the company sees fit to protect from other companies being able to use it. Very few of these patents ever see the light of day. Sony has been patenting depth sensing cameras for years also, our site reported on a similar patent last year actually.

If you want to pick on Sony for mocking using a laggy, low resolution depth sensing camera as a means to control core games, you also must consider that so far all indications clearly point to the new Xbox having Blu-Ray, which Microsoft mocked time and time again both during the HD-DVD format war and even long after it died and Blu-Rays were standard. They also mocked 3D, yet were right behind Sony in trying to shoe-horn 3d compatibility into Xbox 360 games once Sony's 3D games started generating even a little bit of hype.

All of these companies mock each other, and all of them eventually end up copying each other as well. You can't point a finger at just one, to do so ignores the fact that they're all guilty of it. Even Nintendo mocked glasses based 3D, only to say the Wii U would be able to support it when they announced it (not that anyone uses it, but the point still stands).

So, give up the pathetic fanboy war. You people are only making yourselves look dumb.

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b_one1280d ago

and why do u think there will be a shooters only with this tech? i think first they will produce in japan there will be a piano sim ;)

Eyeco1280d ago (Edited 1280d ago )

1st: This is a Patent , so chances are it will never see the light of day

2nd: Eyetoy came out 10 YEARS AGO so how excactly is this ripping of kinect ?

3rd: I really hope Sony doesn't go through with this because Kinect sucks [email protected] and hasn't done anything for core games despite how many times Microsoft spews BS on how it is beneficial for core games

4th: You can give me all that BS PR tech talk nonsense about "3d skeletal tracking" or whatever Kinect still forces you to jump around like a moron flaring your arms around like some inner city meth addict, it's still useless tech. And it still isn't any more relevant to gaming than the eyetoy

fr0sty1280d ago (Edited 1280d ago )

@tommy

"“A bunch of people sitting around the living room wearing $150 glasses — I’m just not sure that’s kind of mainstream today,” he said. “Trying to get a bunch of people playing together in a room where not everybody sees the same thing … is kind of a weird disconnect to me."

They then went on to sign a deal with LG to make 3D on Xbox possible on LG TVs. And you're wrong about them not releasing any 3D games, Halo: Combat Evolved supports stereoscopic 3D. And yes, 3D support was added via a firmware update at the end of last year.

http://www.itproportal.com/...

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF1280d ago

But this ok though... It's Sony.

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Ducky1281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

They were inspired by Liquid/Ocelot in MGS4.

JoySticksFTW1281d ago

Liquid's gun fingers!

I don't care what anyone else says, I LOVED that part in MGS4

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

As good as it is ridiculous

Thatguy-3101281d ago

Honestly this is just a concept of what they are aiming for. The type of depth the camera is going to sense. Doubt they will actually make a game regarding you doing that gesture. Plus these patents always are always just concepts of what the actual hardware will be/do

SilentNegotiator1280d ago

360 fanboys like to pretend like EVERY patent by Sony is releasing as a product for the ps3 tomorrow.

Alcohog1280d ago

My question relates to the fact that you have no idea what karma is.

stage881280d ago

@Bigpappy This has nothing to do with Karma.

sithsylar1281d ago

All i can think of is can't beat them join them hahha...

NeverEnding19891280d ago

LOL

Just like when Sony announced the PS3-mote, I think if this gets announced all of a sudden on N4G this technology will be alright.

Sony fanboys. Hypocrites.

insomnium21280d ago (Edited 1280d ago )

Um shouldn't you wait and actually see people cheering this tech BEFORE calling them hypocrites....? The exact same people who said Kinect was BS before too right?

Should this tech not be announced before even thinking it WILL come out and people WILL praise it?

You are good at self owning mah man.

Alderney1280d ago

Insomnium...can you read? He's saying that's what he thinks will happen.

I'm betting these predictions come true, but we'll have to wait and see.

Oh and as far as I know those saying Kinect is BS haven't changed their tune :\ Kinect gets its sales from new 360 owners.

Petro1280d ago

Everyone here needs to know that commercials are made by a different company and if they choose so they will make puns like the one in the famous Butler commercial, so this has nothing to do with what SCE has said about tracking, in fact SCE has been developing motion tracking and depth perception for ages and that technology is bound to come out as PlayStation Eye at some point in time.

rainslacker1281d ago

Guys Guys...stop thinking about who came out first...think of the benefits that finger tracking can add to games like Dead or Alive.

BlackWolf1280d ago

Seems like I did a awful job trying to be funny...
T.T

RuleofOne343 1281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

So now theirs a benefits but in futuristic 2010 Sony time it was laughable & the approval will skyrocket cause it a Sony concept (FKL) how things have changed. ha ha ha ha ha ha

@ExgamerLegends if they have been working on this so called tech since PS2 , days why turn down the tech that became Kinect, if in some way that what they were trying to accomplish . just wondering(would like to hear your thoughts on the subject)

Sharingan_no_Kakashi1281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

Almost didn't see this but...

They turned down the 3d camera tech because it wasn't necessary. The PSEye can't track in 3d but it can predict 3d. The camera knows that if a light gets bigger then it's moving closer to the lens. Also, while I admit that it is hysterical that they'd use the gun-finger demo for this patent after making fun of it, it seems that this camera's aim is bit more than just 3d tracking. As stated in the link, it's a sonar camera. Unlike the Kinect's infrared technology, sonar can detect things around corners. The implications of that are pretty interesting.

But in all honesty people did you really expect Sony NOT to upgrade the PSEye? The ps2 had EyeToy, the ps3 has the upgraded version called the PSEye, and now the ps4 will have an upgraded camera as well. They're always upgrading. Such is the nature of technology.

rainslacker1281d ago

It was a joke, relax. I'm a Sony fan, and I still find the concept laughable.

Just because Sony does something doesn't mean I'm going to say it's the greatest thing ever. To me motion controls are not the way I want to play games ,given the current technology, and if Sony went with this without having a more traditional input method standard, I would drop them without a second thought.

RuleofOne343 1281d ago (Edited 1281d ago )

So the same company that aired this

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

is now working on something that will allow you to use your hand as a gun so to speak . talk about Eating crow . ha ha how fk funny.

RandomDude6551281d ago

Now why would you go and shovel a crow?

Tsk Tsk