The hardware sales chart for Japan during 11.02.08 - 17.02.08 show Nintendo platforms dominating. The figures are as follows Wii (78.583), Nintendo DS Lite (62,362), PSP (59.654), PS3 (17,637), PS2 (11,266) and Xbox 360 (2,198).
Why are ps3 sales falling?Even with the release of DMC 4?!
PS3 - 17,637
xbox 360 - 2198
ps3 : x360 = 8.5 :1
ps3 costs almost 2x as much as x360 in Japan
it doesn't matter console Y is selling lower than usual, as long as it beats console W. i feel much better about that!
Most of the falls in hardware sales is due the japanese economic recision, there is not much money right now in japan :/
I can't believe someone disagreed with your comment. But the decline is sales is very evident of the slowing Japanese economy.
it doesn't matter that console Y is beating the fvck out of console W by a ratio of 8.5:1, just as long as its declining in sales temporarily, It makes you feel much better right?!
And how about console W's decline in America's January sales? I know, I know, Lord MS said there was shortages, but corporations dont lie right? Buzz off troll!
Japanese don't stick to the next gen. It's look like they are more casual gamers than we expected. For one year, it've been sold mainly DS, Wii and then psp.. Next gen is not going through japan
I agree with you dude. The Wii is a good console. less powerful graphic wise and cpu wise, but at least, it's a next gen with it's own specification.
it's obvious that Japan is not what it used to be in terms as importance for the success of a console... the Xbox 360 is doing bad... but the PS3 is not doing that great... at least to make a difference in the game industry....
What are you talking about!? Japan is a very important region. Look at Nintendo's sales. Just because XBox and Playstation aren't selling well, it doesn't mean that the Japanese aren't affecting the market. They're buying Nintendo's products, which in turn, means they aren't spending much money on the other products. They're helping Nintendo succeed and leaving Europe and America do support the other two consoles. Basically, they're VERY important in regards to the success, or lack thereof, of a console.
you are talking to an american. Everywhere is significantly unimportant to them. I hope they do realize now even the Canadian dollars worth more than the constantly falling US dollars. Economics wise, US is falling faster than Japan.
Bubble up beoulve. As a Canadian I care very much about much the sales of consoles in Japan.
Blademask was indeed mistaken by christening Japan "unimportant"; however, it is equally stupid, and obnoxious for you to ramble out "he's only an American". How many Americans, out of 300+ million, do you know? I thought so... All in all, I would ask you to attack the fanboy, not the community. p.s. You would be a fool to equate the extent of America's economy (which is huge) with the currency exchange rate.
As a gamer, thats one of the worst things I've heard that "Japan isn't important"...thats like...ridiculous
I dont see why you care so much about the sales of a console, especially in a completely different part of the world. You do not make more money if Japan buys a lot of PS3s Anyway, you are wrong to judge like that beolve. If everywhere was significantly unimportant to the US, then why would we care about the struggles in other countries. The US is always the first to respond to national disasters and we always donate the most to relief funds. Even Iraq is starting to become a tolerable place to live. Hell, the US is the most helpful country in the world. People just take that for granted nowadays.
do not feed the fire. Why claim something as rash, and obnoxious, as "even Iraq is now a decent place to live". Do you not realize that Beoulve now looks justified in his idiotic assessment of us? My friend, please don't try to generalize other parts of the world; or portray America as the "world police". To be honest, both yours, and Beoulve's, stances are wholly incorrect. So, let's all just resume back to our discussion on gaming- where things are simple, and safe.
It seems that Japanese ppl along with Japanese devs have not moved to the beauty of next gen gaming yet. In other news, u know its always better for the economy at large that consumers spend more money, thats what Americans do on daily basis and that is why the American economy is number one and I don't think that will change.. FYI: The American economy is bigger than the European and Japanese economies all combined together.
Right on. Generalizing Americans isn't any better then generalizing the importance of Japan.
Regardless how low Japan's numbers are for the PS3, it's part of the reason the PS3 outsells the 360 on a worldwide basis. A 20k a week difference on average puts the PS3 up 80k at the end of each month here. Those numbers combined with Europes numbers mean a lot for Sony. That reason alone makes Japan a hugely important market and is why MS has tried so hard to penetrate that market.
Trying to stay as far away from politcal talk as I can here but, what do you think is going to happen to Iraq when America leaves? It's a freaking cival war going on over there. It will collapse the week we start shipping our boys home. Its a horrid war that should have never started in the first place.
Kuest, Dollars falling, foreclosures running way high, people losing home, stock market going down. If this not a sign of economy going down, what is? Panthers, I'm not talking about being a big brothers. Yes you can help any other country that in need and you still can think that you are far superior than them. "They always need our help because we are superior." so with this superior thinking, other country economy is always less important than US.
do not bullsh!t a routine bullsh!ter. For I stated that one should not underestimate the SIZE of America, not its progression. You are right, of course, that America's economy is falling. However, that does not negate the fact that said country STILL boasts the largest economy globally; that is, the money spent/traded/gained far outstrips other global powers. Not that such a genuine FACT determines the value of a country, though. No, with regards to Japan, it is the people inside it- their dreams and ambitions and how they change entire generations through "whatever it is that they do over there". To conclude, shut up about America already!
"Hell, the US is the most helpful country in the world. People just take that for granted nowadays." Last time I checked, nobody wanted American "help" in Iraq... ... Back to gaming....
Japan, PAL, and US are all important. Japan numbers may be low, but that does not mean they do not make a difference in the industry. Low number effect it just as much as high numbers, just in a different way. I wasnt generalizing America as the "world police" Although now that I read my comment it I can see why you would think sounds like it. Just dumb to assume Americans are uninterested in other parts of the world (trying to show that we are not). I think the OP was just saying that Japan is not helping the PS3 as much as it needs to in order to gain ground. Just wait till some JRPGs come out. edit: above, whatever. i just feel people being oppressed deserve a little help. also, i would just delete my above post but it wont let me. no need to have a debate about that here.
Generalizing is generally not good to do. For example saying Americans are like Bush is stupid as at least 50 million americans voted against him in the last election. It would be no different than saying all Arabs are terrorist because of Osama. Anyways. I can sort of see where Blade is coming from but i still disagree. Japan is very important in the grand scheme of things. 20% or even 15% is a huge chunk of the market especially when you have 3 console manufactures fighting for Global console domiance.
panthers i agree that there are people in many countrys that need help. i just dont think shooting civilians and droping bombs on everyone is a help for those countrys. and its even dumber to compare war to the Gaming industrie. it would be stupid to think that one market is not important. Sony microsoft and Nintendo would be screwed if they thought like that.
Damn PS3 is dropping hard again. The 360 never did good and never will, Japanese hate American stuff or something like that. But PS3 is the big surprise here
cant argue with you there for a long time the PS3 was selling a consistent 35k or so and now all of a sudden it's down to 17k but that is going to straight up when Yakuza 3, White Knight Story, Hot Shots Golf 5 release and then later on the big daddies arrive- FF13, versus13 and star ocean 4 and also when the next Gundam game drops, Japs go insane over those sh!t games the 360 took a significant fall too- it used to sell a consistent 5k and now thats down to a minuscule 2k @Antan did it? well it didn't in Europe anyway yeah you can scratch that from the list if it is out in Japan, but whatever you get my drift
"Hot Shots Golf 5"
This came out last year.
@heyheyheyheyheyhey u just got owned again silly ape.
@poos3 awwwwwwwwww, you love me much that you felt the need to say my name twice in a row
other thing i can add besides low sales for ps3 is that the psp almost sold as much as the ds lite which is impressive
Well to be honest their is nothing out for the ps3 yet that japanese gamers wants to play. Yeah they like dmc but thats still not a game worth spending that much money for. What they are waiting for is another price drop and FF to come out when that happen thats when all of them will buy the system and the sales for other games that should be selling well will start to pick up. Like for example when FFcc and monster hunter came out for the psp thats when that system started to sell like hot cakes over there. Sony should have signed a deal to keep monster hunter and dragon warriors exclusive to their system as well.
woah only 2198 xbox 360 sold.
just look at the stealth TROLLs who are icking up just ps3 in order to spare the x360 which might drop below 1000 next week in Japan
and yet somebody "disagreed" with my comment. I put the figure there because it said so in the news. READ THE D*** NEWS.
Wii and DS keep doing what they do best. Sell.
The PS3 is rising in NA but fell in Japan. What Phil is frustrated about in Japan might be the reason why its not doing to well. I am a PS fan and i can honestly say i am disappointed with these numbers. If the PS3 sold 40K plus in Japan the worldwide gap between the PS3 and the x360 would have been alot bigger. SCEJ must pull their socks up and change with time and try to make the PS3 in Japan more appealing to the Japanese market.
True enough but Sony does run a marathon and there is still plenty of games coming out.
But i think the Japanese gaming market has changed alot this gen. There is more emphasis on mobile gaming and simple,fun content this time around. I look at the charts and its always handheld and simple games that dominate the charts. I like Phil suspect that there has been a shift in Japanese gaming preference from mainstream hardcore to casual mainstream. If this is true and SCEJ is not prepared for it then i am afraid Sony will lose Japan to Nintendo in the long run.
As I said...the wii has the virtual console...the ds has portability...many things most japanese love....its starting too look like the ps3 is their years giant xbox in japan...just like the giant xbox..most japanese are staying far away...sorry heyeheyhey but hotshots golf was released a year ago and did quite poorly as well...I blame it on the fact that it didnt have online play from the start..and when it did you had too make up "appointments" too play online. http://kotaku.com/gaming/mi...
yeah thats why i edited my post to say "scratch hot shots 5"
lol at those ps3 sales. it could have been worse.. wii could have been outselling it 7 to 1
Out with the old
In with the new
I personally think that the japanese are right.. I am usually a hardcore gamer.. I own and have beaten them all.. Everything from Oblivion to Gears to Gran Tourismo to COD4.. Ive ran thru the majority of PS3 and 360 games..
At the end of the day i have been having, and probably will have more FUN on my Wii...
NOT saying that im giving up hardcore.. Im purchasing Most of the upcomming (great) games of 08 for all consoles.. The Wii is just a more fun, and unique experience in my opinion..
I think Japanese stick to what is safe, the same goes for the developers, and consumers. Xbox's RROD doesn't really help it there, so it's nothing new besides the taste of japanese gamers. Like some have said, this rigid complexity or it just might be the comfort zone has not changed much. Stick to the Formula.(not that it's a bad thing but it's part of the reason) That's why Western Developers have jumped leaps and bounds in the gaming development these past few years. I think Japan is only starting to recognize this. One Example: The culture is also very slow to adapt to online gaming, hey that's just 1 function of where consoles are these days. If it wasn't for Sony, what other console is pushing Online gaming? Plenty of reason sales are low and xbox 360 sales are lower. It will be like this for a while until an American console is able to break the mold(whatever that is) and the industry catches up to the rest of the world and what they are doing with development. even Kojima Admitted.. http://lowfierce.blogspot.c...
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