Famitsu has a follow-up report on Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII. The magazine shed new light on the game’s time component, battle system, and more.
Chadwarden=Final Boss of Playstation All Stars.
Chad Warden was a Youtube troll around 2007 that became really popular for defending the PS3 during its darkest days. He just said stuff like: "you know, the Xbox sucks and the Wii too. The PS3 is better than all of them" and for some reason that really riled up the fanboys that attacked him so furiously it was crazy. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
LOL i remember chad! that guy was freaking HILARIOUS!1 man, i wish he still made youtube, that was some funny shit. " gears of war, nigga shit. more like TEARS OF WAR!! all you got is that bitch ass nigga crying all the time!" xDD
FF13-2 sold a third of FF13, this game will probably sell half of what FF13-2 sold . What is worrying is that even those kinds of sales are not enough for Square Enix to abandon this series
Because they still made money off of FF13-2. It cost a lot less to make than 13 and it sold 2.4 million copies which is good. Not much games get close to that. Granted they didn't sell as much they thought they would but they still made profit off of it.
Don't really think anyone cares about Lightning, It's like SE are trying to force the character on us. In my opinion, they should ditch 13 because lets be honest, they are flogging a dead horse. ALL THE MORE POWER TO 10 HD.
Cool cant wait
"Tetsuya Nomura designed Lightning’s new costume." -Making him waste his time on this garbage instead of continuing with Versus XIII. "Can change costumes, including colors, throughout the game." -Because that's what FF is about now, dressing up the female characters. I wonder if there will be obligatory bikini outfits. Classy. "Time is always flowing when you’re out in the field, except when you’re cycling through menus." -Yay, nothing like being forced to progress at the game's pace instead of your own. Perfect system for an rpg. /s "NPCs will change their whereabouts and actions." -Awesome, so you can miss stuff because the NPC moved and you literally don't have the time to go looking for them. Another great move for an rpg. /s "Information can only be obtained only a specific time." -I don't really need to put another sarcastic comment about how stupid this is do I? "Lightning operates alone in the game" -Because she has such character and personality that we don't want other people. "“Style” – can register weapons, shield, accessories, abilities into a Style during combat, switch to different ones while battling." -So, what, copying DMC? Not much to say here until that's explained more. "Can customize styles." -Ok. "Tentative combat name: “ATB amazing”" -Do they have children developing this game? "Earn points for effective use of time and equipment items" -This is just more proof of how Toriyama wants RPG's to be more like shooters. What a waste of a game. Ridiculous system. "Gives you the sensory feeling that multiple people are fighting even though it’s really just Lightning." -No it doesn't. Nothing about what was mentioned here makes you feel like you have other people on your side. What kind of crap is that SE? You've really lost it.
Agreed on all fronts. I just want VS XIII already. They're trying way too hard to make Lightning the center of FF.
Totaly agree man See how their trying to hype these new features as MAJOR things, like they've listened to "fans" when it reality they will be crappy little minor things which won't make the game any more interesting. They are just trying to sucker people into buying the game one last time "OOOOO these features sounds awesome, it looks like Sqaure is really trying" ....no....just no They did the same with FF13-2 and they didn't deliver...COME ON, wake up guys, they arn't going to change this time round, learn from your mistakes. They must think we are all idiots because of this I mean they only called it Lightning Returns because they knew if they called it what it REALLY is, FF13-3 then more people would be put off but if they see this game most people would think it's a totaly new series in the FF franchise staring Lightning Lightning is such a bad character, the only people I know who like her are the ones who have never played past FF games, the ones who drool over her looks, basciaaly the only good thing she has going for her and mostly girls...yeah I know, a lot of girl gamers, mostly those girl "gamers" who don't play on games much but still call themselfs gamers to "fit in" with a social crowd, because they can cosplay as her. The thing is FF13 fans are a little selfish in my opinion, they know it's not very well liked but are determined to defend the game yet if we all move on together we could of had Versus by now...a true FF game.
"The thing is FF13 fans are a little selfish in my opinion, they know it's not very well liked but are determined to defend the game yet if we all move on together we could of had Versus by now...a true FF game."
But if Versus came out chances are you'd bitch about that too, so, it don't really matter ...
@wolfpac_101: Uh, no. See, unlike Toriyama, Nomura is interested in making an actual RPG game. Nomura is NOT interested in taking the RPG genre and making it conform to shooter genre design. Everything we know of Versus XIII points to it being the real deal. It's got Kingdom Hearts style combat with older FF style world design (that doesn't necessarily mean a world map though). In fact the only thing we barely know about Versus XIII is the characters and plot. We can clearly see that Versus XIII is a superior experience to the entire FFXIII trilogy unless Wada forced Nomura to change it in the past 2 years. Lightning Returns shouldn't exist, period. And with each FF game Toriyama is allowed to direct, he moves it further away from basic RPG staples because he doesn't want the player to have the kind of control an RPG affords. He flat out said he likes how shooters don't give the player story based control and how they are forced to move along with the story. That's why the FFXIII trilogy sucks.
You guys sound like a bunch of whiney idiots. You read a little bit of information and you already started making stupid comments? Can we let the games release first? Seriously, you people really need to go shove your fantasy 13 series hate up your ass...like way up there. It's starting to get really annoying. You know little of versus, and its already the best final fantasy game ever made.
@ILive: "You guys sound like a bunch of whiney idiots. You read a little bit of information and you already started making stupid comments? Can we let the games release first?" Guess what, same thing was said about Final Fantasy XIII. Everyone thought it was going to be great from what we were shown and how did that turn out? Well, we're through letting SE get a pass for their B.S. and if you don't like that, well that's just T.S. isn't it? FFXIII sucked, XIII-2 sucked a little less but still sucked, why should we sit by and expect this game to be any better given the information we've received is showing it to be much worse? If you are incapable of seeing that, then that's your problem to fix, not ours. It's obvious that this is just more of the same crap from Toriyama, wanting to make FF more like a shooter than an RPG. Dude said it himself. "Seriously, you people really need to go shove your fantasy 13 series hate up your ass...like way up there. It's starting to get really annoying. You know little of versus, and its already the best final fantasy game ever made." If you like being fed sh*t that tries to pass off as games, go ahead and waste your money and give sh*tty developers their ego boost. The rest of us actually want our money to go to something worthwhile and have some standards and memory of what FF used to be. So take your apologiser attitude and send fan mail to SE, and when this game sucks worse than anything you've ever played, I expect your mouth to be shut. @AdmiralSnake: -WTF are you talking about? I never said Nomura said anything. Toriyama is the one who said he wanted FF to be more like shooters. If you don't believe me, the information is freely available to you on google. -Looking over my posts, I haven't used the word selfish anywhere. I implied low standards from people, and that's about it. So, if you want to make stuff up go ahead, but you just look stupid doing so. -We know enough about Versus to know it's better than the entirety of the FFXIII trilogy. We've seen combat, and know that it's better. We've seen exploration and know that it's better. Every piece of info we do have about Versus shows it's a metric fuc*ton better than the entirety of the FFXIII trilogy including this upcoming turd. -Gee, I wonder why we're saying the same thing? It couldn't possibly have to do with SE giving us the same garbage over and over right? Nah, that's not it. /s -Because you have pathetic standards for games when you want to see more of the same instead of something different. -Again, you must not be old enough to actually comprehend that Square-Enix are developing terrible games and calling them Final Fantasy. I actually should rephrase that, PARTS of Square-Enix are developing terrible games and calling them Final Fantasy. The proof is in how terrible Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2, XIV (before the complete redo), and this upcoming turd are. Just because you have poor taste in Final Fantasy games doesn't mean that everyone does. You may want to play Lighting Dresses Up: Final Fantasy XIII, but the rest of us want to play something better.
I didnt know dragonknight was a spokes person for nomura. Please list a reference when did nomura states that crap you just listed. FF13 fans ? Only in this generation, have a seen fans of the same series divided...lmfaooooooo. WTF is FF13 fans ? I've played ff games way before FF13 and I like FF13 for what it was made to be, same with FF13-2. Lmaooo so anybody who supporting FF13 is selfish now ? Bwahahahaha GTFO, I spent my god damn money just like you, how in the hell am I more selfish than you ? You haven't even played versus yet, we barely even know crap about versus. The most HILARIOUS GAWD damn thing is how you people flip flop. You don't trust anything square says....yet when it comes to versus....you guys take their word seriously like their a deity. DEAR BUDDHA. I'm so tired of seeing the same fools, comment and repeat the samething on EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE. WE GOT IT since FF13-2 when I saw you guys making the same damn comments, and even now, the SAME THING. It's sad I want versus to come out, just so all of you can stfu already. I'm more excited for that, than to play the actual game. I'm old enough to comprehend an opinion, however when you keep saying the same opinion, over and over, for the same topic over and over ???? IT GETS OLD AND TIRESOME, especially these stupid replies.
Here they come, as always FF13 white knights who instead of offering their opinion just give out insults and start personal attacking people who speak negative about it despite that being OUR opinion Seriously look at most of the comments, they're all aggresive "came out chances are you'd b**** about that too" "You guys sound like a bunch of whiney idiots" "started making stupid comments" "series hate up your ass...like way up there" Instead of personal attacks we get immature comments like AdmiralSnakes "IT GETS OLD AND TIRESOME, especially these stupid replies." SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT You guys can say how it looks good, awesome, brillaint, fantastic, promising etc DESPITE not playing the game yourself yet you call us for say how good Versus looks when we havent played on it OR the fact that we are hating on FF13-3.. Your a bunch of Hypocrites
LMFAOO @ personal attacks If I wanted to personal attack someone, I would. I never said anything about how great it looks. I'm SPEAKING an observation on how you and many others come on these articles with the same hate comments. We already know you and many others hate the game, however many others love the game. You and many others literally come on here with the disagree and troll comments on every single article. You people like god mars who even bluntly stated he would come on and hate every single article with his comments is just downright trolling now. I know plenty of people who hate FF13, however one thing they don't do is attack people who love it, and try to act as if we're beneath them, gtfo calling me a hypocrite. Grow up kid, I can take an opinion, but when it's rebuked over and over it's redundant. Hell I'm excited for versus, I'm also excited for this game to. Immature comments ? You called me and many others selfish..... ? HOW exactly are we selfish ? You're not selfish for coming on here all the time, turning the article into a civil final fantasy war ? You speak an opinion as if its a fact.....I speak my opinion as simply an opinion. There's a BIG difference between me and you guys. You're not a final fantasy dictator, and you DON'T speak for everyone, you don't even speak for the people who been with the franchise since day 1, since I know people who hate it who's played every single one, just like there's some who love it and played every single one. It's you people who created such a division in the final fantasy community and is disgusting. Then when me and few others who feel the need to voice OUR OPINIONS about you guys, you wanna start feeling some type of way. As if I didn't multiple face palm myself numerous times seeing you guys reword the same shit :/
@AdmiralSnake Oh my god...what are you 12, AdmiralSnake the keyboard warrior. "You and many others literally come on here with the disagree and troll comments on every single article." "We already know you and many others hate the game, however many others love the game" "I know plenty of people who hate FF13, however one thing they don't do is attack people who love it" and we know how much you love it...works both ways The people who hate it don't comment on the people who love it and start an argument YOU GUYS start the arguments by not letting us have our opinions, you can't help but comment on our posts like what your doing now "OMG you said something negative about FF13...YOUR stupid, you suck, your a troll" so on... "gtfo calling me a hypocrite." YOU ARE ONE though, mostly all of you guys are. As I've said you guys say how great it looks then when we call it you say how can we judge when we havent seen it.....so you can judge it but we can't......so yeah your a hypocrite. "You speak an opinion as if its a fact.....I speak my opinion as simply an opinion. There's a BIG difference between me and you guys" No I speak my opinion as an opinion your the one who canme onto my posts and got your panties in a twist and started to throw crap around.... Honestly mate you disgust me...so delusional.
I think it is pretty funny that people hate lightning but love cloud...lawl same person except one has boobs. I would rather play 20 games with lightning in them than to see cloud one more time. Having said that I don't want to play this game at all.
@Rynocirator well im no cloud fanboy(i prefer zack, but then again crisis core was the first game i played within the FF7 universe) and unlike lightning cloud actually has a reason to be depressed(imo). where as lightning acts emo solely to be another cloud(which SE has openly admitted that lightning was designed to basically be a female cloud.) plus the supporting cast isnt interesting(the girl with the Australian accent;she was the fucking worse -.-) and the combat is dull. there was nothing about ff13 that was good(except the music and graphics; these days those 2 things are the only thing ff does right anymore but still i was willing to give ff13-2 a try, and as soon as i had to do a quick time event i immediately quit the game and never bothered with that shit again. if i wanted quick time events i'd go play any modern action game.
@Root Read what you wrote before you speak. Everything you say like its fact. No where did I read where it was your opinion. You pertty much wrote our opinions are wrong and you are right. Yea we know you hate it but don't go on and say they didn't deliver to all of us when I think they did. And how many people do you know. Make it sound like you know about 1 million FF fans. Guess whats suprissing. Pretty much all my friends played past FF games and love FF13 and Lightnings Character. And we don't care that you don't like it, its just when you come on board and state that we are wrong and everyone hates the game. Not everyone hates it. There is just a lot more FF fans they need to please. No game is ever going to satisfy everyone.
The hate for this is just stupid, Nomuras team is not working on this game and i see a lot of stupid comments like saying "they should focus on Versus a true FF game" the comment just shows how you don't know anything about FF because versus is not meant to be a traditional FF game. This is what i hate about the game industry with people love to hate, i wonder how it feels for people who work on games seeing comments like this, its stupid that this game is always on the top stories list on the site just because of hate.
I just knew santa would bring me my wish of cynical cod player today who loves to hate everything even if they have never even played it or its predecessors before. Go back to COD and stop talking
it seems like so much information is based on purely cosmetic stuff such as costume changes :/ this is something that the 3rd birthday focused on and didnt really offer anything else beyond that. the fact it's the same writer worries me as well.
Tentative combat name: “ATB amazing” 0_O
They can call it amazing as much as they want, but it's still a piece of shit.
Goty 2013 for sure
True. As in Garbage of the Year.
You know, guys, for people who aren't slightly interested in this game, you sure give it a lot of attention by commenting on it. I guess SE knows you trolls are gonna play it despite the hate bandwagon. You guys are no different from the console fanboys teeming on this site,
Finally! Someone states the truth!
I would've given you 10 bubbles for this comment alone if I could. I honestly haven't seen one article about the game that wasn't flooded by hateful and irrational comments.
@Griffin4871.....WELL SAID,I never understood why would anyone waste their time & energy spewing negative comments about a game they supposedly have no INTEREST IN,their excuse is they can express their opinion,I say deep down inside they're going to end up playing this game anyway because they're still paying attention to this game by entering this forum no matter if their opinion is always negative.....I'm personally not hating on this game I'm quite interested.
They say the same shit every single time. I'm sure SE are aware of all the complaints by now. I wish they'd just shut up. I think too much optimism can spoil a game, but so too can an excess of pessimism. Just have an open mind for chrissakes. There's no room for intelligent, civil conversation and debate on N4G, because it's just a giant multi-storey carpark filled almost to capacity with hatewagons.
^You always state true to the point mature comments!!
notice how the trolls aren't replying to this post, they know it's true! go Griffin4871! they all will be flossing their Lightning Returns platinum trophies soon!
You got a well said for saying that? LOL! ***"You know, guys, for people who aren't slightly interested in this game, you sure give it a lot of attention by commenting on it."*** Um... FF fans are of course going to look at the details for 13-3 to see if there is even a slight possibility that it may turn out to be an alright JRPG regardless if they are anticipating it be another horrid FF13/13-2. People are just expressing their opinion based off the details revealed. If someone doesn't like what's revealed then chances are their comment is going to be negative, DEAL-WITH-IT. ***"I guess SE knows you trolls are gonna play it despite the hate bandwagon."*** Trolling? How? If I don't like the information revealed am I banned from commenting on the matter? And you say that those that don't like how 13-3 is turning out is going to buy it anyway? Is that why 13-2 sold less than 13? LOL! ***"You guys are no different from the console fanboys teeming on this site,"*** Yes there is a difference. Consoles fanboys hate on other consoles due to loyalty and nothing more. The dislike for 13-3 are for legitimate reasons based off the information revealed thus far. On the flip side those that are looking forward to Lightning Returns are no different than console fanboys when it comes to bind loyalty... or am I not allowed to make crazy stupid idiotic comparisons and assumptions when it come to you guys?
Yeah, it's all well and good to look at the details, but even when there's little to no info, all they have is hate. This game was hated by these individuals when it was announced, just as 13-2 was. BEFORE details. And it never changes. Instead of looking at the details, thinking, "Well, this isn't worth my time," and moving on, they feel the need to go into EVERY article about the game and voice their dislike. Once? Okay, I'll grant you that. But EVERY article? You can argue that 13-2 was crap, and indeed, I didn't like it as much as 13. But the sales for that game were as hindered by its "quality" as by the stigma that surrounded it. LR will likely see the same thing happen. People who liked XIII aren't allowed to like it. They "new" to the series, or don't know any better, or have poor taste in games. I've played- though not beaten- every game since IV, and there are some things that are absolutely amazing in XIII. C'mon, it's not like the games are broken messes.
Is it the same people saying the same things though? Only person I see is Ranma1 and his comment isn't anything worth crying a river over. I personally wasn't even going to comment until I read Griffin4871's comment. The reason why this game and 13-2 was hated before any details were revealed is because these games are coming BEFORE Versus 13 which was announced in 2006. I guarantee you that the hate would be at a minimum had VS13 been released before the announcement of these games. A slap in the face if you ask me. As more details get revealed, if they don't do anything to ensure that Lightning Returns is going to be a good game people are going to complain. It's as simple as that.
So people are comparing switching styles to DMC now? When it's basically just paradigm shifting but with one person... Lightning has 4 moves, each looks to be assigned to a face button, which make up a "style" and you can switch between them for a new set of moves. You can dearly see it in the trailer if you weren't so busy hating for no reason. Apparently now it's a shooter because it rewards you points for effectively using time and equipment... Ha. It amazes me what some people can pull out their ass. Whatever happened to judging a game after playing it?
battle system sounds like FF8 and FFX-2 mixed. I really hope the battle system isn't over complicated like FF8.
I still think this dude is the biggest tool ever . http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Clearly you must have meant BIGGEST FOOL EVER because in that vid he looks absolutely crazy...LMAO!!
- Tetsuya Nomura designed Lightning’s new costume - Can change costumes, including colors, throughout the game - Time is always flowing when you’re out in the field, except when you’re cycling through menus - NPCs will change their whereabouts and actions - Information can only be obtained only a specific time - Lightning operates alone in the game - “Style” – can register weapons, shield, accessories, abilities into a Style during combat, switch to different ones while battling - Can customize styles - Tentative combat name: “ATB amazing” - Earn points for effective use of time and equipment items - Gives you the sensory feeling that multiple people are fighting even though it’s really just Lightning -- more faster
Lightning is the most important character ever made in Final Fantasy, she is Square Enix Wolverine, but without the Wolverine like popularity. Man I wish Balthier or Tifa could get their own solo game.
This is really feeling like Dirge of Cerberus all over again.
Do you know what the saddest & most disappointing thing about all this Lightning Returns news we are getting? In the 6 years or so that the PS3 has been around we have received from Squarenix 3...i repeat 3 games in the Final Fantasy 13 storyline universe. In that same time frame Squarenix has given us one official 6+ minute trailer & countless 'wait for the right time' to reveal promises for Final Fantasy versus 13. In the 3+ years to release Final Fantasy 13, 13-2, & probably 13-3 Squarenix could've finished Final Fantasy versus 13 AND/OR release Final Fantasy Type-0 which if i remember correctly is already FINISHED!!!!!! Seriously it has been over 2 f**king years & still this game has yet to be localized at all? My personal thoughts on this game is Squarenix seriously hurry up & finish this game. Get this series out of your system once & for all! Cause this game & the storyline of Final Fantasy 13 is really blinding you guys & handicapping the company in working on & COMPLETING games that should've been released 2 years ago.
I think I understand why many Final Fantasy fans are so angry over the 13 games. I see too why they are so vocal about it. And I'm now one of them! We want Square Enix to stop ignoring us (Final Fantasy fans)and get back to what brought them to the dance. Stop trying to do what everyone else is doin and focus on what got you the status you once held. If we keep quiet they'll never get it together! They can't ignore us forever! Keep expressing your selves Final Fantasy fans! I know I wont shut up til I have another awesome Final Fantasy game to come home to...its been so long... T___T
Anyone here because you're honestly interested in Lightning Returns and you liked the previous two games. Not to bitch SE's ear off?
My ship has sailed my friend. People who ccome into an article and actually TALK about the game in question, that simply never happens. Brings a tear to my eye.
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