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Submitted by moegooner88 1145d ago | rumor

Sony ‘Employee’ Review: ‘I Don’t Have A Lot Of Confidence That Orbis Will Sell Well’

One person claiming to be a former senior manager at Sony posted in a Glassdoor review of the company that he doesn't think Sony's next-gen system, codenamed Orbis, will do very well. (Culture, Sony)

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Godchild1020  +   1145d ago
I find it funny, Sony dabbled with causal games this Gen, we have seen a good share of them and they didn't really move units, but they sold okay. They still have Wonderbook and a few others and those are selling okay. Their main focus is on Hardcore, just look at their games coming out next week, The last company you would think to forget about the core is Sony. We already seen Nintendo do it, for the most part, but they are trying to get them back with the Wii U and Microsoft sold their soul to the causal with Kinect.

Bottom line is, I don't believe it. I find it funny people tend to talk bad about a company after they got fired, or quit. If you have something to say why not express your opinion, out in the open, so people know who you are. The power of free Speech. People do it all the time. Anyone can list themselves as a former worker for any company and this is no different. I rather see a name, then a title. If not, this person is just butt-hurt about something.
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Sp1d3ynut  +   1145d ago
Non-disclosure aggreements/policies would typically preclude someone from saying more than what this guy said, so there's that. Even if he's no longer with the company, he could still be sued by Sony, if he identified himself, while having "outed" the Orbis. Once it's officially revealed though, all bets are off.
Godchild1020  +   1145d ago
For all we know the Orbis is a figment of out imagination. Nothing has been confirmed and if he/she ended up saying something about the Next console and Sony sued, it will just prove that they are working on something new one.

He could have just mentioned just the move, 3D and the Vita. But that wouldn't get Kotaku to make an article about. He could of mentioned Sony's business ventures and how it will cause them to fail next gen. He wouldn't even have to mentioned the Orbis.

He is a senior Manager, but from what department? For all we know, he didn't even work on the Orbis, know anything about the Orbis and the games, the PlayStation division are working on. I don't know much stuff about that, I still stand by how, I think he is a little Butt-hurt about get laid off or fired.
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EeJLP-  +   1145d ago
Sony 'employee' sounds like bullsh*t, since it will be called PlayStation 4 and even the new code name is supposedly Omni now, not Orbis.

And after what will be 3/3 100mil+ sellers, there's no reason to think 4 won't move a ton of consoles also, especially with all of Sony's studios and quality IPs.
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SilentNegotiator  +   1145d ago
In other news, Kotaku is still upset that they were blacklisted for outing Home, and they continue to make up BS against anything Sony related, such as 'doubtful inside source person'
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DragonKnight  +   1145d ago
Kraptaku voted down.
DragonKnight  +   1145d ago
WTF Kraptaku, that article on glassdoor is 5 weeks old. You went searching for negative B.S. to post didn't you. Still butthurt over being blacklisted by Sony? Maybe next time when someone asks you not to spill the beans about a (at the time) crucial surprise project, you'll keep your mouth shut. But I guess now we get to suffer through you throwing your tantrums with all your anti-Sony B.S. Troll articles.

Story Quality: WTF?!
Do you Like this Website?: No.

Do it people. Get Kraptaku off this site.
rainslacker  +   1145d ago
There was nothing in his statement that could be construed as a violation of company secrets. No technical or proprietary information was given away what-so-ever. Maybe that part about losing 3rd party support, but that's rather subjective, and I personally haven't seen a drop in 3rd party support for Sony.

If by chance there was a violation, I doubt it would be hard for Sony to find out which "Former Senior Manager" this was, as I doubt they have thousands of them running around Foster City, CA. The Foster City office employs 1900 people, so you'd probably be looking at 20-40 managers, and maybe 10-20 senior managers.

I do like how he says "Stop investing in low margin areas where you can't compete", when the casual market is actual quite a high margin return.

This whole statement though makes it apparent why he was let go if he was senior management, because he obviously doesn't understand the business. He's also calling things failures which did manage to make Sony money, and continue to, and shows that he has no concept of the overall plan that Sony has with the Vita. While I may not know what that entire plan is, it is more than apparent that there is one.
blackbeld  +   1144d ago
Guess Kotaku will be bankrupt soon if they keep making trolling articles.

They not doing yournalism only trolls. Nobody will take them serious and they will be out off business soon.
2v1  +   1144d ago
it dont matter kotaco is here to stay!
MariaHelFutura  +   1145d ago
Kotaku is getting a big lump of coal for Christmas.
pixelsword  +   1144d ago
They're getting nuts.

NegativeCreep427  +   1144d ago
Why should Kotaku get a big lump of coal???
...just kidding.

I know that Kotaku has the habit of publishing and front-paging news that is entirely or majorly anti-Sony.

I agree with Godchild1020 top-side; The former "senior manager" is not a current employee. So what the hell does he have to lose now to try and discredit Sony's future Playstation projects?

Resentment and upheaval could be his aim now.
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Ezz2013  +   1145d ago
hey...hmm... i'm CEO and senior manager at the same time and don't ask me how
and i have some info that sony committed to the core gamers and i will leak something for you never heared before they have core games like the Last of Us, God of War Ascension, Beyond: Two Souls, Sly 4, Until Dawn Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch, etc
and ..ahh..i don't want to say my name
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dboyc310  +   1145d ago
The "employee" claims sony should just focus on core games. Ummm isn't that what they are doing? Out of the three sony is the only one that isn't shoving shovel ware down our throats. At times I seriously don't get some people :/ *sigh*
rainslacker  +   1145d ago
He actually says that Sony should stop worrying about the casuals, and at the same time says that Orbis will fail because the casual market will not see the need for it, and that Sony should focus on the core...because I guess that means that the orbis won't fail? Couldn't figure that one out. You simply can't have it both ways.
Root  +   1145d ago
It's Kotaku they love to focus on negative Sony news in any way they can

Anyway it's not going to called Orbis it will be called the PS4...why mess with the name, it's their "thing"
MikeMyers  +   1142d ago
How ironic. If anyone takes the time to read your comments they would soon find out you're not a very positive person.

As for whether or not it's going to be called the PS4, that's unlikely. The company is very much Japanese and the number 4 is unlucky. Moving forward and Sony needs all the luck they can get.
showtimefolks  +   1145d ago
ok if a system with tons of exclusive content and AAA games doesn't sell than nothing will.

sony owns 12 studios
sony works with QD(developer of heavy rain and beyond 2 souls)
insomniac games still have a workign relationship with sony
read at dawn studios are working on a next gen title for sony

and that's not counting what the 2nd team at ND is doing,and what about GG new IP for next gen and what about KZ4?

give me a break as a gamer i want games and sony and nintendo have provided them for a long time while ms is all about casual games and apps on xblive
princejb134  +   1144d ago
lol ms has provided gears, halo and forza this whole gen
oh yea and a bunch of timed exclusive cod maps lol
ILive  +   1144d ago
It's funny because the guy said that the orbis will not sell well because the casual market will not flock to it, which makes me believe the console will not only be powerful, but it will also be for the core gamer. Then he goes to saythat Sony should focus on the core gamers when asked to give the company an advice on what they need to focus on.

What this also makes me think is that Sony maybe trying to sell the console to the casuals as well, but might end up failing at it. He then suggests that would best if they only made the console with only the core gamers in mind since that is their "market."
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Kos-Mos  +   1145d ago
And which country have free speech? Usa? Don't make me laugh. Just look at the moderators on this site. Nintendo and ms fanboys bashin sony from an inteligent view=trolling (teen way of hiding behind teen words.)
isa_scout  +   1145d ago
Agreed, that's like me saying I worked for Bill Gates and saying he was a real jackass in person even though I haven't. Oh the internet where you can say or do just about anything. Doubt this guy was anything. Kinda reminds me of the Allstate commercial" This is my date he's a french model." lol Yeah they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true
soljah  +   1145d ago
JEESH the ps4 is almost a year away and already the ps4 hate articles are starting. at least with ps3 the haters waited till after release with the constant barrage of Sony negativity
AzaziL  +   1144d ago
While I agree with the first half of your comment, I have to say the chances of hearing someone trash talk their employer without them remaining anonymous is about slim to nill unless the person was planning to quit their job anyways. Not many people can openly talk smack about their employer and expect a promotion anytime soon.
Godchild1020  +   1144d ago
Do you remember the guy that won the first season of the Tester? If, you do, do you remember when Sony laid him and some other staff members at Sony San Diego? He had some stuff to say on his twitter about Sony, the games they had releasing this year and he made sure people knew who it was coming from. He was mad, that he got laid off and want someone to hear his frustration. he used twitter to get it out there and once it was he deleted, but they were still out there.

If the want to talk smack about Sony and really want people to know if it was true he would have made it public. Even if he didn't mention Orbis.
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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney  +   1144d ago
Sony is the only company that didn't turn their back on hardcore gamers.

They know when the trends die core gamers will be their.

Look at wiiU! Selling nothing like wii so far and not the same amount of casual hype. The soccer moms have moved on.

MS pfft 3 core games and 61 kinect exclusives so far.

Aony supports thier platform way better than MS and Ninty.

PS3 released 2006.
God of war 2 released 2007 on ps2.

Xbox 360 has been dead in the water since 2010 after alan wake.
Imagine support after 720.

End of a generation and still AAA games coming from sony.
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CaptainN  +   1144d ago
I suggest you do better research before making such bold claims that the Wii-U is not selling like Wii...because honestly its pretty close :
DeadlyFire  +   1144d ago
Speak out against company policy. Haha who do you work for? Anything you say against a company's policy gets slapped down on the management and they 9 out of 10 times know who did it. So they start pushing you out of your job.

As far as Sony goes they did accomplish their goal of matching up to X360 by the end of the PS3 cycle pretty much those two are tied up.

The only division of Sony that they do right is the gaming division. Sure a few failures here and there. That always happens. 3DS/PSVita both struggle a little. Nintendo had to drop price of 3DS for it to pick up. Vita itself isn't a bad handheld. Its just the fact that Sony isn't known for the handheld business. There is plenty of room for them. I do wonder if mobile phones will take out Portable systems at some point in the future.

3D TVs are new. Expensive as heck. So it takes time for them to even land in a home.

This sounds more like opinion more than anything else in the article. No facts or details. This does not qualify for news.
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Fil101  +   1144d ago
Well said.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   1144d ago
MS sold their Soul?

They just released their highest costing core game this gen and the most recognized franchise this gen...Halo 4.

MS also released Forza Horizon, a game although open world and less sim as Forza 4 is still apart of a core targeted title.

Yes MS have added the focus for the casual market but it would be simply foolish to release a peripheral to the market and not support it. MS are NOT the company that is in financial turmoil simply because they don't just throw their money around on half assed idea's and IP's that don't sell.

MS have some of the highest selling and received core exclusive titles on the 360 seen this gen. MS also have Timed DLC on the most core franchise released this gen being Call Of Duty.

You are as FAR off as you can be claiming MS "sold their soul". MS is just more focused on supporting their console with the content needed for BOTH market segments instead of jumping on the copy cat train and then not supporting it.

If anything, MS have been more consistent for their consumers while companies like Sony use copy cat tactics and then don't support the consumers that bought into their hype.
Godchild1020  +   1144d ago
This is a long comment and I jumped all over the place.

I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway. Microsoft has always been about the core since they first released the 360. The very reason why I got a 360 and didn't move to a PS3 until after 2 years or a wii. But for the love of God or whomever you love, you can't say they didn't sell their souls, when it comes to exclusives and new IPs. They focused more on the Kinect, then they did with their core games. Forza, Gears, Halo are known IPs and that doesn't say much. I loved Alan Wake and wish they release more games like that and not just shooters. Why won't they bring back PGR, have rare make more than Kinect games? They did sell their souls to the people that never supported them from the beginning and you are just sad from saying they didn't.

Also, halo 4 is not the highest costing game this Gen, it cost $80-$100 million dollars to make, while Grand theft auto 4 still sits at $100 million. For all we know GTA V might cost more than that.

Here is why I say they sold their souls, why did Fable go Kinect only with Fable: The Journey. I was always a big fan of the series, even after 2. Where are all the core games, that make great use of the Kinect and not just add voice control? Even though I did find it useful to use my voice to change mods in NFS:MW.

You are right they are not in financial turmoil and they have enough money to throw 1.8 billion dollars on Tablet marketing, to TRY and beat Apple. They spent $80-$100 million dollars on a game that is just a shooter, and will offer nothing more than that. The problem with Microsoft, is that they don't support their core fans as long as Sony and I don't think they ever will. They pushed more Kinect games towards the consumer than they did core games. They also only push Retail shooters than they do any other Genre. At least they have the Indie titles, which I enjoy a lot. But, if Sony wasn't in there position, they could be doing anything right now. So they are not as good, as most of us make them out to be.

Microsoft is doing what they do best and that is to create Shooters and that is what their system is known for. Also, isn't the kinect motion gaming, whether it's with or with your hands, a copied the concept. There is no problem with copying if they can do it better. At least with Sony and Nintendo, I could play a core game with my motion controllers and not just speak to my TV.

Also, if they were supporting their console, where are the New IPs? It's funny, how we all complain about new IPs, but no one looks at Microsoft, when it comes to it. And if they do make a new IP, it's a Kinect game. They have also said exclusives make the console, right? Also, the games you listed are the same games that came out this past 4 or so years, just with a different name or sub title.

See the difference with me and you, is that I can admit when my preferred console has done wrong and I can admit when they should stop making games that are not for the masses. I own all the consoles and I have to say that Microsoft sold their soul with the first Xbox and they are and will do again with the 360. With that said, I will still buy the next Xbox, because I rather own a console and have something to say about it, that I know is true, than be on the outside and try and make it seem like I know something about.

I don't think I'm "FAR" of as you say, I think I'm pretty close, if you look at their track record. I won't call you a Fanboy, but open your eyes and see that Microsoft is supporting something you didn't buy the 360 for. How many Kinect games have you bought since it launched. I own 4 or so. Dance Central 1-3 and some sesame street game.

The most recognized game this Gen, is Call of Duty.
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NukaCola  +   1145d ago
Oh Kotaku,

Santa isn't bringing you naughty trolls anything this year and you have to attack others again with garbage.
GribbleGrunger  +   1145d ago
Kotaku: If you can't be the hero, be the villain... both get equal billing.
thebudgetgamer  +   1145d ago | Well said
"One person claiming to be a former senior manager at Sony"

Great journalistic integrity as always Kotaku.

Kotaku HQ.

Writer: Boss we got this guy on the line that claims to have worked for Sony and he has some dirt.

Boss: Anyway to prove it?

Writer: No just claims.

Boss: Run with it.
TheModernKamikaze  +   1145d ago
ronin4life  +   1145d ago
That's why they say he CLAIMS to be and aren't passing him off as definetly a former employee. There is the disclaimer.

I dislike kotaku, but lets not make things up when blasting them... they do enough stupid things on their own anyway.
xursz  +   1145d ago
Lol. How much of a delusional fanboy are you. You go from blasting kotaku and any site who states that Wii U is selling less than current gen consoles to outright defending them when it's an anti-sony hit piece.
rainslacker  +   1144d ago
The thing about good journalism is that they verify their sources. It's not hard to do most of the time, and if a journalist has integrity they will not reveal their source, and in no way can they be compelled to by the courts. Most good news reporters will not report information from an unverifiable source, unless they can verify that information through other means.

They also won't just put a quote from an unverifiable source with a disclaimer, because when you do it implies that it may be true, thus leaving it up to the reader to decide based on their pre-established opinion on the matter. Good journalist report facts, and leave their their own agenda and biases out of the article in question.
SilentNegotiator  +   1145d ago
Teh "insidR SaUCES" never lie!
Riderz1337  +   1145d ago
"Focus on your core gamer"

I see Sony losing focus with their core gamers with games like the Last of Us, God of War Ascension, Beyond: Two Souls, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, Until Dawn etc.

Then we have Microsoft with Gears of War....

I loled.
DiRtY  +   1144d ago
Enjoyed your xmas lineup with LBP Karting, PSABR and Wonderbook?
Riderz1337  +   1144d ago
Yea I did buddy. Let's see what will happen in 2013 when you only have Gears of War.

He who laughs last, laughs best.
DiRtY  +   1144d ago
Well... I will probably have a new console.

I did not try to make this a 360 vs PS3 argument at all. It is just that Sony did not focus on core games in 2012 at all. Actually, it was a pretty bad year for PS3 only owners.

I mean the last big AAA exclusive was Uncharted 3 in November 2011. So celebrating the next big AAA exclusive in April / May 2013 or somewhere in that timeframe does not do the trick for me.

Anyway, whatever makes you happy.
Abriael  +   1145d ago
Seriously, is there anyone besides Kotaku that considers this newsworthy? I understand that it's the 24th, and news are slow, but you can scrape the bottom of the barrel only so far before it becomes ridiculous...
KrisButtar  +   1145d ago
I'm somewhat intrigued that someone can receive coverage for their opinions by merely claiming to be a senior manager.
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   1145d ago
Yet another POS anti-Sony trolling from Cockortwo.
Sniperwithacause  +   1145d ago
Yeah well I'm a senior manager at Sony and I know that we here at Sony are committed to the core gamer.
Ron_Danger  +   1145d ago
I just got promoted to double secret CEO, and it's true, we are committed to the core gamer.
PirateThom  +   1145d ago
I work in the mail room at Sony and I can confirm that letters have been sent requesting more hard cores.
Hanuman  +   1145d ago
Here at N4G we are all senior managers at Sony.
League_of_Draven  +   1145d ago
I'm the current senior manager at Sony and it sounds like he's just mad because he got fired for stealing USB cables from the company.
wishingW3L  +   1145d ago
Kottaku is at the same lvl of pathetic as HHG but they still have 3/3 stars on quality. =/
Ron_Danger  +   1145d ago
HHG wasn't all that bad. He just let his immense enthusiasm for games overshadow the information that he had.

It's one thing to make crazy videos to get hits when your just starting out (HHG). It's another to make troll article after troll article after you've been an established website (Kotaku).
momthemeatloaf  +   1145d ago
I'm worried for Sony as well, heck look at Ninty and the Wii U struggling despite having Mario.

I only think the next Xbox is a sure bet to sell well because of it's huge American sheep fanbase and the stanglehold it has on youtubers.

If I was Sony, I'd wait in the weeds. Drop the price of PS3 in late 2013 so you'll have the cheapest console on the market and it will fly out of doors next holiday season. See how Microsoft does with the next Xbox then make your approach.

Next gen will be the most challenging ever because it's the first gen where there is no demand for a certain hardware feature (like HD) or a feature (like online) in console history. So while the hardcores will buy it, the casuals will see no need to go out and get it, and that is where the problem lies.
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KwietStorm  +   1145d ago
Great analyst job there. No not really.
modesign  +   1145d ago
dont forget this is a "former" employee, of course hes going to trash the product that he no longer works with
Drithe  +   1145d ago
Kotaku is one of the most anti-Sony sites around. They also make stuff up to get a click.

Anything coming from KOTAKU is to be avoided at all times. No intregrity at all.

End of Line.
SonyStyled  +   1145d ago
someone there at sony probably knows the MSRP
Sandmano  +   1145d ago
I love how it's always some former employee that doubts future projects of a company. These guys give me no choice but to assume that there bitter about it all never have I seen someone say something good about their former company.
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taijutsu363  +   1145d ago
Kotaku is the troll N4G deserves.....not the one in needs!
Sandmano  +   1145d ago
Hahaha good one. Vote down their site people.
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taijutsu363  +   1145d ago
Lol thanks. And yea I voted the site on down.
Ezz2013  +   1145d ago
because Kotaku not a journalist... he's a silent ignorent, a watchful troll ... a Craptaku
zebrahim  +   1145d ago
Guys.let's not lose focus here. Sony was mislead by nintendo and microsoft but still churned out excellent exclusives that thrilled gamers everywhere. I hated Sony during the pS 2 era...I love them now...they on their last knee and are really trying. Young incompetent gamers are polluting the industry. They want to play games but won't work to buy them...too much reliance on parents...Sony tried to capture that market. MS even worse. Its a sad state of affairs. I hope Sony goes all out...even if it doesn't sell...people will realise the dreamcast which was awesome. Silly gamers with too much opinion and little fact...people would buy an ipad over a Vita! My word!
buttclown  +   1145d ago
Yes because nobody in this world deserves there own opinion or a choice to buy an ipad over a vita.
Kidmyst  +   1145d ago
I know a guy who knows this guy who works for Microsoft and the next Xbox is gonna be bright red and the ps4 neon blue. I kid, but I never believe the articles. Anyone can claim to be anyone and say anything is confirmed. This will all just get even more ugly for both MSFT and SONY after they officially announce their next consoles.
josephayal  +   1145d ago
FAKE FAKE, what is wrong with kotaku exactly?
chukamachine  +   1145d ago
If the PS4 is for the casuals, I will not be buying.

Can't really see it though.

That guy is trying to say, GT6,UNCHARTED4,KILLZONE4, are not coming, rofl. Funny.
TheGamerDood  +   1145d ago
Please tell me more about how a console that hasn't been announced yet will fail miserably. Despite the PS3's late start and price tag it managed to out sell the 360 by 200k. If the PS4 comes out around the same time as the 360 and is reasonably priced it will sell well.
TheGamerDood  +   1145d ago
meant 720 not 360. -_-
silkrevolver  +   1145d ago
Oh Kotaku...

(You suck)
delboy  +   1145d ago
I don't know what to believe,but whoever wrote it is right in some points.
Sony sucks in marketing,lost almost all third party exlusives,and vita is a failure.
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smashcrashbash  +   1145d ago
Kotaku just loves to troll Sony. Even if for some reason it was a former employee how do people sure they aren't just being bitter because they are no longer employees. People always take the employee that got fired to ask them questions about their former employers and expect to take every negative thing they say seriously. 'Your former bosses tossed you out one your @$$. What are your thoughts?'And people are shocked when they say bad things. Did they expect a sparkling tribute to them?
rainslacker  +   1144d ago
I dunno, I read what he had to say, and if he was a senior manager it's pretty apparent why he was let go. He doesn't seem to know much about the industry despite his claims. Even then we don't know what he was a senior manager of...could have been the cafeteria for all we know.

I also know some people can still be professional and gracious about former employers. It doesn't usually happen though, because really why would anyone report on it?
MYSTERIO360  +   1145d ago
Just because a person claiming to be a former senior manager at Sony says PS4 will be more casual based it doesn't mean its true............For all we know Kotaku could of wrote it
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CaitSith  +   1145d ago
What a disgusting site.
Sarcasm  +   1145d ago
Kotaku is one of the crappiest sites ever manifested. Not just as a "gaming" site, but as a site in general. Nothing that ever comes from there is of any use to anybody. It's filled with fanboy articles with a bunch of ignorant writers who think their sh*t don't stink. What a waste of an existence for those people.
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ElectricKaibutsu  +   1145d ago
Out of curiosity I went to Kotaku and searched for Sony to see all their troll articles. Out of the 50 recent articles that came up only this "Sony ex-employee" one and this one from 20 days ago ( were negative. Most were just stating facts like games coming out and the like. I have a feeling that it's not that Kotaku has a crazy high number of Sony troll articles but that a disproportionate number are submitted to N4G.
EVILDEAD360  +   1144d ago
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