Super Wii, Xbox 3, Playstation 4. When they will be launched and what they will be like. This article analyses the future of home gaming console hardware.
I think that if the xbox 3 comes out 2 years before the PS4 , its the end for Sony.They are surving the one year head start the 360 had but are not even close to doing what the ps2 did and it looks like that will never happen again. After seeing all the harm the 360 did with only a one year head start just imagine what the xbox 3 will do with two years head start.We will have to say goodbye to Sony.They will never be able to comeback. XBOX 3= PS2 of the futur. The ps3 wont have 10 year lifespan : In Europe the PS2 cameout 6 years after the PS1 and the PS3 cameout six years after the PS2.Its just not in Sony's habits to carry on with the same console for a decade. Anyways I might be wrong but I think a 2 year head start would be fatal for the PS4.
For your record, the PS1 was discontinued after the release of the PS3 meaning that the console came out in 1995 and thus had a lifespan of 10 years. The PS2 is still being supported and will be until the release of the PS4.
See Sony is not like Microsoft, they don't just abondon their instalbase and go on with their next system. It's doesn't create trust and definantly after such a short time.
Another thing that you said is that the PS3 will not come close to what the PS2 is doing, then please explain why after looking at the statistics we see that the PS3 is growing and selling faster than the PS2 did.
A year head start for Microsoft didn't even make a differance to begin with, as we see that the PS3 OUTSOLD the 360 in 2007. I mean it outsold the 360 in the year that it had it's major releases (Halo 3 to name one). Now it's supposed to be the year of the PS3, so guess what will happen this year? Excatly PS3 taking over the Xbox 360.
I think if Microsoft were to repeat what they did with the last Xbox, meaning that they abondon all support for the Xbox 360, they are in big trouble. Because not only will consumers lose trust in them but also developers. Same thing happened with Sega.
So If you come with arguements agian. Check their validity.
you sure proved him wrong, lol
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I really dont think ps4 is gonna come out before 2012
From the article: "Playstation 4 should come in 2011 according to our model. I think that this will be the earliest that it will appear and that 2012 is more likely."
I'd guess the Super Wii in Christmas 2011 More power. Same controller only redesigned. "New" Mario games/Metroid game/Zelda game. Still casual market centered. Xbox 720 release Christmas 2010 Announced Christmas 2009. Microsoft developed processor and graphics card. Voice activated. Huge hard drive with Blu-Ray disc. Live everywhere fully implemented. No hardware issues. More difficult to develop for because of new hardware. No backwards compatibility. PS4 Christmas 2013 Seven Cells and a Shader processor. Ultra HD compatible. Introduction of new disc format. Full body motion sensing. Would be promised for Fall of 2012 but will be delayed over a year.
that the next xbox will be wi-fi,bluetooth,rechargeable controllers,web browsing,blu-ray drive,hard drive as standard, wait a minute....deja vu havnt i got that already this gen?
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everyone will avoid the XBox 3 as if it was the second coming of the Sega Saturn. Nintendo will most def destroy all if they push out a tru HD next gen system.
I honestly think the next PlayStation console will come out in seven years not 5. This is because the PlayStation 3 can do so much that people will want to hold on to it a bit longer. With XBOX 360 I don't see that console lasting any longer than 5 years. In that case I think you'll even see a spike in PlayStation 3 sales that late like the PlayStation 2. You'll have cheaper hardware and with a living breathing community it would be the ideal place for games. Sony definitely made a future proof console. Nintendo Wii will be so far behind I don't see it even lasting 4 years.
I agree with everything you said. Except when it comes to the Wii... while I agree it wont have a console life, Nintendo has made enough money already off this console generation to come out with an ultra spiffy new console in 3 or 4 years with technology that's ahead of PS3 and 360. Yes then Sony and Microsoft will counter in a few years after with their SUPER consoles... but Nintendo has the casual market and the casual market wont have Ultra HD. Nintendo is smart. They'll release what appeals to the maximum amount of people while still being as technologically advanced and innovative as possible.
technology is moving so fast now so who cant tell atm
you make me laugh. It's still early in this current console generation. The "harm" that you're talking about is a bit premature. Look what the Wii did. It catapulted beyond ps3 AND xbox360. The ps3 also sold more last month AND for the better part of 2007 than the 360. Sony is a quality and trusted name when it comes to electronics so I doubt that Sony will falter when the next MS machine comes out. It's not in Sony's habits to carry on a console for a decade? PLease! Look at the killing they've made with ps2. They also still have continued support for ps1 through BC with the current systems. Sure, MS has made a name for itself through XBLA and industry support, but you can't count out old vets like Sony or even Nintendo for that matter.
I predict the ps4 will come out around 2012, since the last two playstations came out about 6 years apart
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i really think that Sony does have a 10 yr plan with the ps3 since they pushed for blu-ray inclusion. their plan with the ps2 has been nothing less than stellar so if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? ps3 will be here for a while. MS will push for the next machine in 3-4 yrs after they generate enough software profit from the 360 with the install base; they need to reaffirm consumer trust with the rrod issues, however rampant (or not) they are. I can see the Wii being around for another 6-7 yrs since it caters to such a wide demographic of people and for the sheer fact that Nintendo is so innovative that they'll figure things out that will keep people hooked.
If by software profit you mean off of Live, then sure, but they create 1st party games once every couple of years, so counting on that would be folly.
damn, babylonian...you beat me to it. :-P
the only good point this guy made is the fact that systems usually change within 5 years which is really no point at all... out of all the systems nintendo is the only one that has the advantage going to the next generation and going sooner.. if nintendo can get a system more powerful then the xbox 360, easy to develop for and with a new interface for controlling games going forward , cause they are still going to have the momentum from this generation ..then if nintendo launches first its almost a done deal that they will be in first place.
At least nobody said "Wii 2." That really gets my goat.
I bet some Nintendo and Microsoft fans will be cautious about being an early adopter next time..lol
I would hesitate on getting a ps4 when it comes out because if it's anything like the ps3 it won't have many good games for the first year and the price cuts.
I don't believe Sony will jump the Next-gen wagon as soon as Microsoft because the PS3 is in its infancy year and by the time the Xbox 720 (probably in 09/10), the PS3 will carry a pricetag under $250 and probably a smaller model. This only, will affect 720's sales thus hurting it's headstart.
Us gamers sure like to get ahead of ourselves, eh?
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I bet Nintendo fans and some Microsoft fans might be a little cautious. I do know Sony will launch for a cheaper price than Microsoft (or at least the same price with higher end features) because they are paying for the high end Technology now, and it's getting cheaper everyday.
who purchased a Wii would not find the need to upgrade to a newer model. As they are mostly casual players and obviously are not in need of cutting edge technology.
I meant software as in games in general. MS will sell a lot of software as indicated by their successful revenue with first and third party software. but yeah, you're right, i'm not really talking about games off Live.
Imagine how sick the graphics will be for the next gen of systems! At that point we will be talking about how the "crappy games" for these new systems look old and dated like that game crysis from 07. "god those graphics suck! it looks like crysis on full blast, you can't see their pimples, this game sucks!!"
This article is as unintelligent and irresponsible as journalism gets. The author is wasting everyone's time, himself included, by producing this turd of a speculatory prediction with absolutely NO hard evidence to back up anything. There is no reason to produce an article like this. It gives gaming sites and journalists a bad reputation by mass producing farce-ology for no reason other than to catch a headline somewhere to generate traffic. Did anyone check what else was on his site? Take a big crap after eating Taco John's then let it sit for a few days. That's what you will find. I give this article a big thumbs down. PS4 in 2011? WTF. PS3 hardware, intentionally, was developed to be able to sustain software development requirements for many years. Now with 100GB Blu-ray quad-layer disks, PS3 developers are nowhere near the hardware limitation as implied by this moron. Developers are already saying with 50GB disks and the largely unexplored CBE processor that only 20% of the PS3's potential has been harnessed to a reasonable extent. This is not to toot Sony's horn but I'm just making an example of Hardware being much further ahead of Software in modern gaming development.
He has flawed logic as well. LOL.
It says the opposite of what you think. Here is a quote:
"This because the PS3 is still so undeveloped as a product in the market, it has a long way to go."
Okay. If you claim that the PS3 still "has a long way to go," then why would you only give it three years before new PS4 makes it obsolete? I think Sony is bucking the trend of requiring new hardware launches every 5 years. PS lasted 5, PS2 lasted 6+ and counting, PS3 will last even longer because games have crossed a new boundary... requiring gamers to have expensive ass televisions. Even though you and I have one, nowhere near a majority of households contain them, especially for young gamers. Parents often find difficulty in justifying a TV that costs more than their console. That's another reason why the Wii does well. Not everyone benefits from HD. YET!!! It will become more standard but that will take time. That means much more than 3 years before people have XBR4's in the kids' bedroom. That's my argument. I don't disagree with the 360 needing a new console soon, I do disagree with the PS3 needing one however. Wii? Super Wii? I bet they will make a new one soon, as in 3 years-soon. Nintendo has the highest hardware turnover rates by far. They made like 8 different gameboy's. My only major objection is that of the PS judgment by lumping them in with Nintendo and MS. The PS will be in a very adventageous position when MS deals with new Tech costs while Sony rakes in the cash of riding a 8 year console march on a fat lump of quad-layer Blu cash. The initial cost will likely prove to be worth it.
I predict a PS4 is nowhere near close to coming out, and the next Microsoft console will take a major dent in sales because of consumer skepticism of the RROD, even though they probably would have invested millions of dollars to make sure that isn't an issue again.
"Super Wii" LMFAO
i was going to say the same thing. LOL
Most likely either company won't launch anything until 2011. DirectX 11 should be out at that time and it would be perfect time to launch something new for Microsoft. Since their next version of Windows could be setup to work on their next console as well. Lots of new features for computers are set for that time frame as well. Sony and Nintendo will likely launch around the same timeframe in 2011-2013. I expect at least two of them to launch something in 2011 with the other following them in 2012 or 2013.
really? how so? They sold 10 million units with no competition and their sales are already beginning to slow. They sold 3 million less last year than they did in 2006.
The PS3 sells MORE units than the 360 did in its first year and BEATS it in 2007 and somehow it is doing poorly??
Please explain Mr.Bruce I dont get it.
How many less would they have sold by not going first? Everyone in the industry recognises that Microsoft had a very big first mover advantage.
So...He is just so smart. I think he is the best analyst/writer. What a great piece. lol
whenever the new "trend" or "next best thing" comes out, that's what the majority of people will want. Xbox 3 will come first, have new technology and new innovations. Whos gonna want a ps3 with a ten year lifespan with last gen games. Xbox 1 proved to be more powerful than ps2 when it came out that's why a majority of gamers switched sides. Same thing will happen next generation.
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the thing sony must do to counter the next Xbox is to release the PS3 slim with a price tag below $200 in the same month. certainly people will go for the most attractive package , the cheaper console with the bigger catalog of games rather than spending $400+ on a console with few launch games , and damaged reputation i hope you are reading this sony .
w/e happens, i hope one of the companies will decide to shove a Ton of RAM in the box or at least make a console that can be upgraded with RAM/etc (N64 did it!). the consoles we have this gen are still to this day competitive with PC's except in the area of RAM; hope that will change
yOU GUYS ARE NOOBS if u dont understand Sony isnt gonna let Microsft get a lead this next Gen(even though they will still beat this gen EASILY....9 more years to go... I mean its VERY young)
HAHAHAHA Xbox 360 fanboys have become delusional. AF IF ANYTHING HAS CHANGED WHATSOEVER... OMGGGGG GEARS 2 WAS ANNOUNCED.... everyone already knew that was coming noobs... there still are no new games... PS3's lineup SMEARS the 360's and is going to to. Just like the PS3 is gonna kill the 360 in hardware sales and do it by more and more every year. Its so funny. These homo's are acting like they got something specail now hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah ahaha they have nothing but 50 RROD articles, Gears 2 and Fable 2 LMAO andthe same thing we already knew about hahahahahahha
PS3 IS GOING TO CONTINUE crushing the stankbox this year. Get used to it. And if u think Microsft is gonna get a headstart on Sony next gen YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. ITS NOT HAPPENING.
I don't see how Sony could let MS release another console a year or more ahead of them. It gives MS time to gain market share which is exactly what happened this time around.
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ROFL. I heart my DC too. 9/9/99. LOL. I had a 4-way Quake 3 arena tournament on my DC just last month. Sega sucked at marketing then. Maybe things have changed. Their software is profitable, their hardware was revolutionary, but they maybe went on too many exec-only cruises to Kokomo or something... Hmmm... you bring up an interesting idea though. Thanks for that.
They Treat Console like crappy PC's that need upgrades every 4 years cuz they PC minded not long term like Sony or other More Reliable Hardware Manufactures. Just Go Away and leave Hardware to the pro's and stick with your crappy 'Apple OS' Wanna~be Vista software. And if Sony wants they will just make a PS3 with more juice and pull a xbox and call it PS4 and by then Most lazy devs will Rape PS3 developing.
Consider the entire generation of game consoles. In doing so, one might realize that the length in which any console sustains is determined solely by YOU; the bumbling, geeky, obnoxious consumer. Simple enough? Not quite. In the end, hardware specs- in relation to its competitor- typically mean nothing unless it essentially equates to compatibility with the AVERAGE consumer. AS such, PS3's lifespan will not be prolonged due to its "potential", but its relation to the consumer. That is, if the consumer suddenly begins to crave for PS3sque type games, only available through Sony's Trojan horse (Blu Ray), than expect a continued life cycle for the pearly machine. Once again, it does not matter how much "stuff" the PS3 can do, but whether or not anybody is looking for that type of substance. Take PS2, for instance, a very simple graphics machine by even yesterday's standards; however, what belied this outwardly simple design was its gaming catalog, in addition to its dual functionality as a DVD player. Already, one should recognize just how such a machine equates to "average consumer computability". In essence, the PS2 could boast: "whatever you want, whatever you crave- we can do it, albeit not the best, but you'll never see a gaming spectrum quite as large as ours." WOW! Just think how much freedom this gives to the AVERAGE consumer, not particularly fond of any, one genre. Suddenly, gaming was simple and quick; not notoriously long and geeky. This brief summary, in effect, defines the legacy of PS2. Absolute compatibility. Not so with the PS3, however! Why? In a word, blu. To explain, by placing the PS3 as the *premiere" hardware console, Sony has (perhaps unintentionally) barred itself from the "fast food gamer"; those of us who like a quick touchdown, free throw, or shoot em' up on the go. Its a fast lane, and indeed this analysis on my part explains the success of Wii. Microsoft, on the other hand, is stuck in a catch twenty-two. It is both hardcore, and not hardcore- a description which only would confuse the typical passerby. As a result, Microsoft is pushing for the casual audience, not through MGS4, or KZ2- but Banjo, Scene it, and other lame games (not successfully, I might add). So what PS3's route? To conclude, its all about how blu we gamers, and simpletons become. That is PS3's genuine ticket, and if said technology fails to attract a mainstream audience... forget the "potential", forget the developers, its back to business as usual. Sorry for the pale of water, but its time people wake up.
I disagree in part. You can throw quicker touchdown and access post-pub greatness even easier since you don't need a credit card to play online. What casual gamer or 6 year old wants to go through the hassle of getting charged after they forget to cancel their 30 day trial of live (a-hem AOL). I believe the PS3 has exploited the PS2's wide audience adaptability to the extent that no one in their right mind couldn't benefit from it over it's competitors. Internet browser(built in) wireless(built in) You can install an OS and use it as your computer!!, free themes and dlc, HD(built in- and won format war) dvd/cd player(built in) Photocard reader (built in) DVR support(free and coming) PSP support(built in) add to that standardized upgradeable hard drive and free(OMG) internet access with your friends and 1,000's of backward compatibility games and laughably lower failure rate than MS's competition and you get a contradiction of your opinion and my opinion.
Yeah ok the PS1 got discontinued after the PS3 but were you still buying games for the PS1 ? do you know anybody who's still playing on their PS1? NO NO and NO.
The PS3 will never dominate again because at this pace considering that the 360 price drop and GEow 2 etc have 0 impact on the 360 sales it will take the PS3 4/5 years to catch up and thats if the 360 sales never increase again which I doubt because of system movers like Geow 2 and the price drop. Look at stats before yapping.
And please expalin WHY would MSFT carry on supporting a console that brings in 0 revenue and that is being outsold 10:1 by its competitor (ps2).
Do you think if PS2 were in the 1st xbox position last gen they would have carried on supporting it? NO.Why ? Because their is 0 interest in doing that.You're praising Sony as if they even cared that you have a playstation , of coirse its EXTREMELY thoughtful from their behalf to keep supporting a console thats still selling like hotcakes.Geez open your eyes.If the PS2 was selling like the 1st xbox they would have dropped it right away when yhe PS3 launched.
Moreover its clear you dont have a clue what youre talking about when you say the one year head start didnt help them.If the PS3 outsold the 360 in 2007 what would it have been if the PS3 and 360 had launched at the same time ? The brand recognition that people have for Sony would have crushed the 360 right away even before its launch.Lucky for MSFT you dont work in their business service otherwise the 360 would have tanked long time ago.
Once again the PS4 WILL NOT come out ten years after the PS3.Because the PS2 came out 6 years after the PS1 and the PS3 cameout 6 years after the PS2.Sony will still support the PS3 like they are doing with the PS2 but thats it.
Check your fact and takeoff your fanboy glasses before yapping on this site.
Sony does not give a DAMN about you having a PS2 , they only reason they are still supporting it is because its still selling like crazy and helps bring in the money the PS3 isnt bringing inotherwise they wouldnt have dropped the price twice in one year.) and not because they care about their customers , between customers and money they would choose money anyday of the week.
@Ikiru3385 By the way according to your way of thinking MSFT is still supporting the xbox (emulation on the 360) but Sony has dropped the BC on the ps3 , wow they realy give a damn about people that still wanna play their PS2 games...
you do make one good point- the one year head start did help the 360, cause it got all those exclusive 3rd party games i mean can you imagine the slaughtering the 360 would have gotten if the PS3 launched the same year- PS3 would have Gears, Dead Rising and all that the thing is- the delay was to make sure the PS3 had blu-ray and cell- and i think it paid off because of the PS3, blu-ray ended the format war pretty quickly, and cell means devs have more resources to work with and this makes the PS3 more future-proof but your wrong LaChance- it's in Sony's interest to give the PS3 a ten-year cycle without the interruption of a new PS think about it- when M$ releases their console Sony will have the 3rd party support which will have learned the hardware fully by then and they will have the install base- and will give the xbox 3 a quick assassination however if Sony release the PS4 to compete with the Xbox 3 then it will have a hard time just like the PS3 Sony have made the PS3 future-proof enough to last ten years by its own- it has the hardware, the upgradeable HDD, the online for future updates (obviously) and all that stuff
actually, LaChance....i meant to say full BC as in Sony is still supporting PS2 playability with PS2 games being released and also with PS2 still being sold in retail. the 360, i believe, only has software emulation so it is not 100% BC. Correct me, if i'm wrong on that one.
XBOT 360.5....YEAR 2010 , WHY ? XBOT will be last gen in 2010
NINTENDO YEAR 2010 , WHY ? How long can they go with there first party games and waving crap around
SONY 2018 , WHY ? Thing is a beast fool ever check it out.
"Check your fact and takeoff your fanboy glasses before yapping on this site." Take your own advice there freak. "The PS3 will never dominate again because at this pace considering that the 360 price drop and GEow 2 etc have 0 impact on the 360 sales it will take the PS3 4/5 years to catch up and thats if the 360 sales never increase again which I doubt because of system movers like Geow 2 and the price drop. Look at stats before yapping." You show your ignorance in this one. First of all you are ASSUMING (note that is not a term related to FACT which is the word you throw around) that the sales for both systems would stay constant. PS3 has been outselling X360 by more each week even taking the lead in NA currently. Thus your assumption that the gap would stay the same is already being proven false. I will state the FACT that until the year ends NOBODY knows how the gap between the two systems will change. As to your theories on price drops and Gears 2 (about the only factual part of your post), please use some common sense and note that <gasp> Sony would drop the price as well and they have several major titles coming out as well...thus potentially negating that momentum you speak of. The key word being "potentially" because unlike you I understand there is no way to know for sure until these things happen (though I admit my opinion is that there will be a little tug of war but that the PS3 is going to make up some serious ground this year, but that is just MY opinion and I never pretended it to be a fact). "wow they really give a damn about people that still wanna play their PS2 games..." Sony has recently hinted that they will be releasing updates that will change that for the 40Gb system (the only current SKU that cannot play PS2 games). I admit that its not a fact until it happens but your statement is not only lame its very assumptive. Look up the word fact in the dictionary please before tossing it around again.
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It has been happening in the pc industry for years and will trickle into the consumer market just as quickly. The turn around for changes in consumer electronics are only going to get faster. It used to be that intel would release a new chip every other year but thanks to competition and the drive to stay on top they have pushed their yeilds to 6-8 months or sooner. It happens in the graphics market as well. Considering the ps3 and 360 are basically PC's in a console coating it is foolish to think that as progression is made for faster cpu/gpu's that these two (excuse me...3) console companies would really stand behind their idea of a long lasting effect on the current console business. We all can pretty much agree that work is being done on the successor systems. The newly announced nvidia and ati gpus are being considered but you know that both companies are being tapped to work on what would be considered the "power" of the 2010-2011 timeframe. Storage medium is changing as well. Blu is good for movies but if you look at how long it took to go from record to tape to cd you will see that it was quicker each generation. Tape to dvd to blu to...? will be a much faster incarnation. Sorry sony but the only way you will get 10 years out of each system is if you gimp the successor long enough to keep people subdued.
well, seeing as that people are still not ready to commit to HDTV and blu-ray the transition is still pending. i am still doubtful about how quick people really can adapt to another format seeing as that they are still reluctant to migrate.
forced migration. We will see in Feb 09 i guess. @kuest: ok...adoption (for you)
Interesting... *takes pencil and jots on vocab list* edit: No, no... I like migration, thank you very much.
The Xbox was a PC in a different box.
The 360 is definitely not. It is a completely different animal. It uses a different kind of processor, it has a different bus system and a different memory architecture. You are totally wrong.