The DmC sex scene is actually good characterization

"The controversy surrounding DmC: Devil May Cry has started to build up again, to the point where longtime series fans are once again steamrolling forums and comments sections with their rants about how they won’t be picking up the game. At this point, I’ve pretty much accepted that they just personally don’t like the game’s new direction or perhaps its gameplay alterations, and that’s understandable. However, that doesn’t mean I don’t have a rant of my own to give you folks tonight, because there’s been one recent event in particular that I feel needs to be addressed." (Michael Urban,

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Snookies121950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

*hits head against desk* It has NOTHING to do with the game's new direction. It's just that the game took away so much of what made Devil May Cry so good in the first place! I'd be somewhat fine with new Dante, I'd be fine with all the new characters, and the scenery, and the look of the game. Those things don't bother me as much as the horrible gameplay decisions they made. Plus the fact that they blatantly threw hate at old school fans of the series who rightfully complained about serious issues the game had.


Sorry, you'll have to forgive me. I just start feeling like I'm one of the only ones who even gave a crap about what Devil May Cry used to be at times...

Breadcrab1950d ago

Alright, I added 'gameplay alterations' in there as well. Happy?

Not that it's really even the point of the article. XD

LOGICWINS1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

The only gameplay decision that I have a problem with is that you can't immediately dodge mid combo. Pressing R1 during a "Judgement" combo does nothing. Everything else I'm happy with. I like the new Angel chain thing that allows you to pull yourself towards enemies, this makes it way easier to chain combos.

And despite what others think, I like the 30 fps. No longer do I need to have the reflexes of a 12 year old Japanese kid to counter an enemy attack or pull off an awesome combo.

ZombieNinjaPanda1949d ago

I've never see anyone post that they enjoy having less FPS before. I'm beyond words at this moment.

wishingW3L1949d ago (Edited 1949d ago )

logic never make sense. And he obviously doesn't know what frame-rate is based on that last part. He thinks higher frame-rate = faster gameplay but what it really means is more accurate gameplay.

LOGICWINS1949d ago

@Zombie- Killzone/Battlefield purposely employ 30fps gameplay to mimic realisitic gunplay. Its a design choice. If GG/DICE wanted to adopt 60fps, that would be a problem because it would counter the original gameplay model. Real life soldiers don't have the running speed of Hussien Bolt.

"logic never make sense"

And thats where I stopped reading. Assuming u wanted me to take ur comment seriously, starting with an insult won't work.

AuToFiRE1949d ago


No. The higher the framerate the less blur you get. In real life our vision does not blur, the higher the framerate the crisper and better looking the image will be.

Reverent1949d ago (Edited 1949d ago )

@Logic, what? DICE didn't intentionally give BF3 30FPS... It's simply all the consoles could handle. If they INTENDED the game to have 30FPS, why do good gaming PC's run the game at 80-120FPS? Don't you think they would have limited it to them too if they wanted to "simulate realistic gun-play"? I'm sorry, but that's just dumb. Less FPS means choppy gameplay. More FPS means smooth gameplay. Smooth=Realistic.

Also, again you seem to display that you believe Frames Per Second actually affect the speed of the game. It doesn't. It's simply how many frames the game refreshes per second, which leads to better looking animation and crisper control/view. If a game is running at 30FPS, the soldier is going to move at the exact same speed as if the game were running at 200FPS; Just the 200FPS soldier is going to looking a lot better.

Eamon1949d ago

and quite epicly too.

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LackTrue4K1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

WTF was that video!?! DLCampcom is really REALLY trying hard to steal my money.

LOGICWINS1950d ago

Apparently I'm the only person on the Internet who thought that was pretty hot.

zerocrossing1949d ago (Edited 1949d ago )

You're not alone man, the more I see of this game the more reason I have to dislike it.

I have no idea why DmC has so many defending it, the core fans are the ones getting screwed over here.

Kurylo3d1949d ago

curious... what exactly are u missing from the originals? Other then the overly corny story (except for dmc1). Just curious. What are the "core fans" missing. I have purchased every single dmc game so far... am i not a core fan for loving the direction of this one?

zerocrossing1949d ago


Dante was a damaged but likeable rogue, who's character ark in DMC3 opened him up making him one of the best and loved action game characters of all time.

Sure the games have always been corny, but that's part of the charm, Id take corny over trashy and dirty any day.

The plot reboot means we may never have any of the questions answered regarding certain characters/events from previous games, and considering how many question DMC4 posed, that's a shame. Also the new plot is pretty bad, feels like it came straight out of a poorly written comic book.

This has been said over and over but, 30fps for a action game, especially when it's DMC is pathetic, were not playing GOW or or some mere hack n slash, DMC is all about fast paced action with precision combat which is heavy on style.

Characters look ugly in the reboot, and I I'm not against cursing in games but I am when it's merely done for attention, Oh and now the "controversial video game sex scene" Wow... edgy.

And well no, no you probably aren't a core fan if you like this new direction because you've missed the point of why the previous games are superior... the game is just awful and how anyone can like it being as choppy, broken and unappealing as it is, is frankly beyond me.

lizard812881949d ago

I seen that they altered the combo system too. It now rewards players for using the same combo over and over again. In the past games, you get rewarded for mixing up your combos. Also you can achieve the SSS Rank very easily now. You can even stand around and the ranking won't go down.

Tontus1949d ago

GoW runs at a variable framerate which stays around 50 fps by the way (even with full v-sync). The new DmC running at 30fps is terrible considering he series is known to be very fast pace and it isn't even close to being as good looking as the 2010 release GoW3 so there's no excuse to to have it running at 60fps.

It doesn't bother me because I'm buying God of War: Ascension next year, the developers of that series always deliver exceptionally well and would never abandon their fans.

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OneAboveAll1949d ago (Edited 1949d ago )

It's a reboot. Thus it's not supposed to necessarily have everything the old game had that made "them" good.

Your rant is invalid.


Again with this guy. As for Dice using 30fps for Battlefield. The hardware simply can't run at anything more than that because it's OLD HARDWARE. If it could and they had a choice between 30 and 60 they would have went with 60.


Reverent1949d ago (Edited 1949d ago )

Granted, that doesn't make it a "good" Reboot. But I agree with you're second statement about the hardware not being capable of running the game at a higher FPS. I have no idea what Logic was thinking.

DragonKnight1949d ago

@Snookies12: The new direction is actually a problem because of what it did to iconic characters and how it tries to cash in on the Devil May Cry name whilst being nothing like the Devil May Cry games. The only good thing about this game is the ending credits. This game is absolutely terrible and there is no way to defend it. I suggest you don't bother wasting your time with articles from apologisers. They simply don't understand and actually like supporting sh*tty games like DmC or RE6.

HonestDragon1947d ago

The more I read about this game, the more obvious it becomes that DmC is doing anything but insulting the original Devil May Cry. I'm starting to see it more as an abomination on so many levels. Ugly character design, the stupid half angel/demon background, ridiculous themes and ideas, very easy rankings in combat, and blatant disregard for the Devil May Cry name.

I just tried the demo of it on my friends PS3 and the damn thing froze up three times without us continuing at all. We experienced a few glitches that almost broke the demo. A coworker had a glitch that caused new Dante to glide continuously throughout the stage. And this game is due in the first couple months of 2013. If the demo is glitching and freezing up, plus what I mentioned earlier, there is no hope for DmC at all.

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Godmars2901950d ago

Please: stop talking.

I don't even want to hear about this damn game anymore.

Breadcrab1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

There's this thing called free speech.

Or in this case, free typing.

Godmars2901950d ago

Then you wont mind me exercising my free speech right by saying that not only am I not buying this game, I'm not even going to bother to read this article because I feel that it would be a total waste of my time.

I mean FFS, do you honestly expect people to care that much about a crappy implied sex scene featuring ugly people? What I've cared to see of DmC's narrative has convinced me that its bad and uninteresting whereas with the games its failed to copy their narratives were bad but entertaining. Just like gameplay prior to the series offered different levels or reward to casual and hardcore. Not just offer a bland dump.

Trying to defend one crappy part of crap is just a waste of energy. That my opinion which I'm just as entitled to offer as you have have. Difference being I'm further expressing mine to ignore yours after reading the article title about something I've already chosen not to open my wallet for.

Good day to you sir!

ZombieNinjaPanda1949d ago

Sorry but N4g is owned by someone. You can go take your free speech out on the streets of DC, but here you can't.

Kurylo3d1949d ago

lol nice argument, but do u own this website?

ZombieNinjaPanda1949d ago (Edited 1949d ago )

No I don't. But if you try to say whatever you want on here, the mods have the right to ban you if they don't like it.

Eamon1949d ago

There are two things in life.

Free speech.
and Bullshit.

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MattyG1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

You obviously missed the article from last week where people cared about said "crappy implied sex scene". They cared a lot actually. Maybe it's not worth a whole article, but if he has good points about the subject it's no skin of my (or your) nose.

Godmars2901950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

These comments are indeed "The Skin Off My Nose".

I realize that I'm coming off as offensive, that some effort was put into writing this, but the thing not being understood is that this is akin to the Little Dutch Boy putting his finger in a leaking crack, when the rest of the damn dam has already broken. Yeah people cared about the stupid sex scene, but only as a further outlet to vent frustrations about other issues surrounding the game.

Roccetarius1949d ago

You will keep hearing about this untill it releases. As long as they get some publicity, uninformed people will buy the game. There is even a small group of people jumping sites to void all the negatives.

Godmars2901949d ago

No, we'll be hearing about it afterwards for some time as well.

Either its going to manage to sell well in which case NT and their defends will say, "F*** All Haters", or it going to bomb and the same parties will say, "F*** All Haters For Spreading Your Hate. It Was Your Fault the Game Failed Not Ours." Which will spawn any number of articles positive and negative.

League_of_Draven1950d ago

It's not a sex scene. They have their clothes on.

Enemy1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

It's clothed sex, man! Deal with it!

Seriously though, how else are they going to sell this garbage? Sure as hell won't be the demo that did it.

SageHonor1950d ago

I don't care if sex is in a game or not but you don't NEED it for characterization at all unless the person themselves is a freak or nympho.

Pozzle1949d ago

I wouldn't be surprised if the sex scene was included not because it's vital to the plot or because it will add to character development, but because Tameem thinks sex scenes are ~cool~ and ~edgy~.

zerocrossing1949d ago

Probably the later.

Im seriously wondering if Capcom and NT have any shame left, after insulting the fanbase butchering the plot/game mechanics and now we have a completely unnecessary sex scene just for the sake of it, what else can they do to piss us off?.

Kurylo3d1949d ago

really? Sex scenes (even unecessary ones as u put it...) are a negative? Do you instantly turn off a movie cause u see some random titties flash? lol... Your playing a game about demons and sin and your going to say dont include any kind of sex? lol Retarded argument.

RyuX191949d ago

Exactly. Tameem said it himself "This is also the first game I've written, cast and directed myself. If i do my job right, you should be seeing a story of Dante that breaks the myth that all videogame stories are trite and will never stand up to the best that theatre and film have to offer." yet he does this poorly taste sex scene that's there for no real reason other than to show how wrong the direction this game has gotten.

And that myth that he speaks of has already been broken numerous times. Look at game like Metal Gear or Deus Ex or Max Payne. All of those games have great stories and none of them needed this pointless crap.

Saucyknight1950d ago

I don't even mind dantes new look(although I prefer the old one) and the gameplay feels good but I'm not liking the new direction, vulgarity and what not. Seems like they think that it needs to be more dirty and disgusting to broaden their fan base. I don't care for it, but that's just me.

Kurylo3d1949d ago

When u think of demons u dont think vulgarity or whatever u wanna call it plays a part? Horror, sex, vulgarity, evil... and violence is what i think.

Pozzle1949d ago

Aaaand that's the type of demographic Ninja Theory wants to appeal to. The demographic who thinks adding sex scenes and lots of swearing somehow makes a game about demons more "mature" or whatever.

VileAndVicious1949d ago


Kurylo is just saying that in this game centered around "demons" (which are usually affiliated with sin and evil, imagine that) these darker grittier themes arent really all that out of place...and they kind of arent.

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