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Submitted by antbolton89 951d ago | opinion piece

PS4 Release Date, News and Rumors

Sony is yet to confirm the existence of the PS4 games console, but it exists out there somewhere. And with Christmas 2012 upon us, we're all hoping we'll have PlayStation 4 consoles under our trees this time next year.
So the important questions are; when will the PS4 hit the shelves? What sort of hardware will it pack? And will it even be called the PlayStation 4? (PS3, Sony, Tag Invalid)

The Meerkat  +   951d ago
Sony and MS are engaged in a staring contest.
I just wish one of them would blink, I don't care which one.
My brain needs facts and figures to digest.
decrypt  +   951d ago
You could probably check the with AMD what both the locked down PCs will be featuring.

AMD probably load them up with some left over tech. Leave the hyping to MS and Sony.. you will get to hear claims like:

"Its Does 4D"
"Toy Story graphics"
"Lucid Dream"

Thats the sort of technicals console makers release most of the time lol. You dont get much Facts and Figures from them :P lets stop pretending as if its the PC industry where manufacturers will throw benchmarks your way to give you some evidence on whats really coming your way.

Anyways when you do get a first glimpse of the actual boxes, things to look out for will be :

Size & power consumption.

Why the 2 of those things?

Console makers will do everything in their power not to release much details at all. It will just be blatant marketing.

Well size will determine how hot the parts in this thing run, if its a cramped box like the Wii U then most likely its got low end hardware in there, that doesnt need much ventilation.

Power consumption, because its obvious anything powerful will require a good amount of power. If the consoles are rated for anywhere near a 100 watts expect them to be weak. A rating anywhere close to 200watts and we are talking about good amount of power(for a console, In comparison to PCs it will still be about equal in performance to a low end gaming PC).

Most likely i predict it will be compact boxes designed to be cost effective. So that MS and Sony can profit day one.
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extermin8or  +   951d ago
You're power consumption point is wrong, they may well have very low power, because the parts are all customized by the manufacturer, as it has to do very little other than play the games, unlike a normal pc :p
@The Meerkat

They will most likely be more powerful than wiiU chew on that for now.

This is what you want?
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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ABizzel1  +   951d ago
What you want. But not going to happen.

Those GPU's alone cost more than a 32GB Wii-U.
3-4-5  +   951d ago
good comparison.

I think they are both trying to avoid blinking until the Summer.
sikbeta  +   951d ago
Yeah... this is some cold war armament race $#@| can't stand no more...

No more leaks, fakes, rumors and other stuff... WANT Next-Gen Consoles NAO! bring it on please!
Lvl_up_gamer  +   951d ago
Until I see a spike in Sony's R&D department, I don't believe the PS4 will release in 2013. Speculations all point to a 2014 release being the earliest.
dboyc310  +   951d ago
Well if I recall didnt activision said only one console will launch next year? The valve console is a for sure thing so maybe sony and Microsoft will go for early 2014. I hope not though because im really anxious for a new system.
BitbyDeath  +   951d ago
Someone posted the R&D figures the other week and showed it was no different to the PS3. PS3 didn't spike R&D remains consistent as it never stops between cycles.
extermin8or  +   951d ago
Sony announced at investor call last year, that R and D costs were incurred by next gen console development were in the figures, I think sony start as soon as their console launched and just slowly work on it from that point onwards?
KangarooSam  +   951d ago
Random thought, although somewhat on topic: how's the instant games collection gonna work with no back catalog? :/ I don't have the money for picking one up on day one anyway, but for the people who are and with the rumors of PS4 not being backwards compatible; what's up with that?
tbon3man  +   951d ago
Just don't get rid of your PS3 until some firmware updates or we know for sure the PS4 is or is not backwards compatible.
DA_SHREDDER  +   951d ago
the ps3 isn't like the ps2, like you mentioned, with firmware updates, the ps3 will be relevant for a very long time, and it wouldn't surprise me if it sold more than even the ps2 did.
jacksheen0000  +   951d ago
Second hand games on the way out? Hope this isn't true because if for any reason your game system break down you'll be suck with a bunch of games that won't work for any other game console. That said, I hope Microsoft/Sony include a life time warranty or they'll end up pissing off a lot of PS4/720 owners.
KangarooSam  +   951d ago
It would be connected to your PSN ID/Gamertag. Therefore, just retrieve that and you're all good. :)

On the other hand; I still don't effing want that lol. Online passes are bad enough. Registering games sounds horrible. The only time I trade in games is when I've played the hell out of it and some place offers great deals (like Gamestop just did with the 200%+ values), so it doesn't effect me hugely. But say average Joe over here spends $60 on a game day one and ends up hating it, he should be able to sell it to someone else for $50 or whatever.

They're just gonna be punishing the consumer and making us more weary of the purchases we make. So, it'll really just make business hard for trade in places i.e. Gamestop, Best Buy (won't really hurt them), etc.

So yeah, way to go damaging the economy if you follow through with this Sony and Microsoft >_>
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Ippiki Okami  +   951d ago
"Second hand games on the way out?"

This rumor was already debunked. Not gona happen unless they want gamestop and other retailers to lose money they get from used game sales.
violents  +   951d ago
I like the way ubisoft does it. New game comes with voucher to unlock online stuff. Buy it used and you have to buy a 10 dollar online pass. Sounds fair. The dev still gets thier money for you playing thier game and you still get it cheap.

Other devs should adopt this strategy to avoid the whole "lock out used games" arguments.
3GenGames  +   951d ago
You like that? Man, it seems like every single gamer out there is pretty much just a tool today. Supporting that garbage is retarded. Only an IDIOT could justify DLC or online passes. I buy a game disk, I get the right to use the online. End of story. The person who bought it isn't evem taking up server space, FFS! F*** those publishers. And f*** people who support that.
violents  +   951d ago
@ 3gengames.

You are the reason developers fail. If you dont cut in the dev how are they supposed to have the capitol to make that next big game you want to play. Buying used is nice to have but when you find out you favorite series is being cut or whole developer goes under, wouldn't it seem better if everyone who is really a fan threew in there share so those people can still have jobs and we still get awsome games?
3GenGames  +   951d ago
What a joke. How many inide games have you bought? What a crock of sh**. Developers fail because they make bad games and have bad management. Not because they're starved for money. They're maximizing profits, not staying a float f***tard. I'll buy all my games 3 months old, with online, and for $35 on steam thank you. Would games that haven't made money go for that price? LOL HELL NO.

And I do program. I make games myself. I can tell you, this is ALL just sh**. They don't need money. They maximize profits. Look at EA. You think a game that sells 2,000,000 copies NEEDS $10 more per game to stay afloat? No, you're a a MORON.
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violents  +   951d ago
@3gengames

So its ok to steal now. Your straight up stealing stuff from an industry you make money from and encouraging others to do it too.

And frankly it doesn't matter who's game your buying indy or not. Your still technically stealing from that dev. People get sued all the time for downloading music illegally, but its ok for you to do it with games? So we can share games but not music?

Realistically It makes sense. Your using up server space that they have to maintain, why shouldn't you put in your fair share? O because you just some A-hole that claims to be a programmer on the internet websites and cusses at people a lot. If you actually were in the industry I think it may be safe to say that you would have better points than "i'm a tool". I would ask you to tell me some more fairy tales from you wonderful land of game programmers with anger managment issues, however I have to go support the developers I like by buying thier games.

BTW what company do you work for so I can never support your games. Matter of fact I'll pirate a few so I can steal from you too.
Veni Vidi Vici  +   950d ago
I've said it before:

No used games = no purchase of console
MultiConsoleGamer  +   951d ago
Total fabrication.
NavydAd  +   951d ago
So I bought a lot of movies on my 360. Do you guys think I will be able to move them to the next system?
Ippiki Okami  +   951d ago
They are usually tied to your user (Live)account, so no worries...unless microsoft changes their policy.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   951d ago
Slow news lately

I will say this next year something will materialize and give us concrete info on new consoles. until then, enjoys the holidays and the new years. Come next year the next gen systems will finally be upon us with announcements, games trailer, teases, rumors, speculation, reveals everything. And come E3 hell even before E3 will be glued to our computers more than ever.

Until then, enjoy the holidays for now take it easy. 2013 is the year of new tech, and soon to be upon us.
nevin1  +   951d ago
Based on rumors regarding BC and Used games locks, people will be sort of foolish to sell their PS3/360.
Playstation4LyFe  +   951d ago
worrying about what the competition is doing is what is holding back these developers now a days... i know this might be a bad example but look @ what zipper did with socom, they tried to make it call of duty in third person with some tactical elements... it was not socom. they looked at wat was selling big and they tried to copy n paste that into their own title... very upsetting. Lets hope the next gen doesn't focus solely on what the majority of casual gamers enjoy.
Sandmano  +   951d ago
Socom has always been bas if anything the last one was the only decent one. The first one to come out on the ps3 was so appalling it was one of the worst games I have ever played.
Playstation4LyFe  +   951d ago
SOCOM 4 Would have been OK if they didn't name it socom, check out SOCOM 1,2,3,Combined Assault and even Confrontation.... they're how socom is suppose to be NOT respawn.. terrible camera view +50XP... they turned it into what it always tried not to be.. even look @ the maps in the old ones, ur obviously not a socom vet so u wouldnt know
hardcorehippiez  +   951d ago
as bad as it was at launch and even the cheaters havent ruined the community in socom confrontation,its clearly the best socom available on ps3 and i still play it regularly
Sandmano  +   951d ago
I know what you mean About how 4 when the cod route even with the Sp if I'm not mistaken but I thinking about confrontation that was a terrible game but I l ow some people like it.
Sandmano  +   951d ago
I'm not in that much if hurry the games we are getting are quality I haven't reached the point where Im anxious to see next gen. Best thing to do is play the games you've got now and enjoy them next gen will be here when it's here.
Smokingunz  +   951d ago
Getting rid of second hand games is definitely bad news! Getting rid of backwards incompatible is bad, shipping with out dated chips is kind of disappointing as well. We'll see whats up though when that system finally drops.
kornbeaner  +   951d ago
I'm looking at the supposed specs and it doesn't really phase me none. CPU is really such a small part of the overall power, that I wouldn't mind if they use an outdated APU, but packed in a great GPU with it. As long as the PS4 has a minimum 2Gigs of Ram (+ 512mb to 1gig separate for the OS) with a great GPU it will have long legs.

E3 this year should be great.
blackblades  +   951d ago
I'm thinking january when it's announced at CES if not, it'll be february with there on event, if not there then E3, some of the rumor maybe truth but I rather wait for actual facts.
ApolloTheBoss  +   951d ago
I can wait till 2014 but at LEAST announce it at E3, please.
Adolph Fitler  +   951d ago
I think & hope Sony should give early adoptors the benefit of backwards compatability.....FULL b/c. If we pay the premium asked at launch for these machines, then give us a worthwhile reward for our loyalty. Just like the U.S. PS3 launch machines that had the PS2 emotion chip in them, allowing full b/c functionality with ALL PS2 games.

I just wish for FULL PS3 b/c, forget PS2 & PS1, as that is just being ridiculous. PS4 should just have the neccessary components in launch machines especially, that allow it to play ALL PS3 games, without fault.

Now, the other thing is, PS4 should allow us to put our PS3 HDD's into the new machine, & allow all content to translate over without the need to re-download, or have compatability issues. So, all PSone classics, PS2 games, PSN games & full game downloads that we have on our curren Sony systems HDD's, should translate over to PS4, without extra costs or downloads. Just bloody allow us to rip out our 500gig PS3 HDD, & put it in our new PS4 & have access to all content, as well as the ability to add new content.
Make it the total opposite of how swapping out the PS3 hdd experience is (if you've never tried this, be thankful, as if your old PS3 dies, & you buy a new PS3 try putting your old PS3 HDD in the new system, Sony require you to reformat the HDD to that machine, meaning you lose all your downloaded games & other vital info, that makes the swap out, hard & crap. It is a joke, so I hope Sony do something to correct this with PS4 & swapping HDD's.
nunley33  +   951d ago
If your wanting to transfer your data and not redownload you'll need to keep your PS3. You won't be able to swap your PS3 HDD into your PS4/OMNI without it being formatted, so i wouldn't hold my breath for that. But like the data transfer method you can do with 2 PS3s sitting side by side where one copies everything to the newer then deletes the older, expect this method instead. And this method copies everything except some movies you bought from the store, but protected saves copies even for people without plus as well.
Belking  +   951d ago
I remember a certain company promising toy story graphics and we still haven't seen them yet. Maybe the next gen will finally deliver.
BitbyDeath  +   951d ago
That was MS who said that.

"which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1...
Belking  +   951d ago
BS...actually it was sony who promised that first with the PS2, but nice try though.

"PlayStation 2, though, is claiming to be able to handle 50 times more 3-D image data than the Dreamcast, allowing it to create characters similar in appearance to those in the Walt Disney film "Toy Story.""

"The PlayStation 2 will be powered by a microprocessor faster than those found in the most advanced PCs and will be capable of providing motion-picture quality images,"

http://money.cnn.com/1999/0...

It never happened and still hasn't. All you have to do is research and see how toy story is created and anyone can see that a console would cost way too much to create those type of visuals.
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BitbyDeath  +   951d ago
Your link doesn't state Sony said it, read the link i posted above. MS said it.
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silkrevolver  +   951d ago
Look at Toy Story 1.

It's been surpassed.

Certainly not Toy Story 3, because that movie is fucking gorgeous, but besides some jaggies, I can count dozens of games that look better than the original.
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silkrevolver  +   951d ago
I think our current technology is fine, even if it is dated.

The problem is original content.

Publishers are rehashing IPs like crazy right now, and few new things are happening - outside of the independent download space.

SONY is at least putting out new stuff like Last of Us and Beyond... but everyone else is rehashing like crazy.

Sequalitis will only be cured by new systems.
(Hopefully)
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lfclee  +   950d ago
I want the ps4.
younghavok  +   950d ago
Im pretty sure itll be a 2014 release for the PS4. It would be a poor business decision to launch two major consoles in the same year in this economy. Visually its anybodies guess how the games will look. As far as BC, its not sounding like itll be in but it would be a big plus to have it.
aznfrankie  +   949d ago
My friend that works for AMD says that most of the teams are working on Xbox 720 more so than the PS4. He says AMD is supplying and making the chips for all the consoles next gen.

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