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Submitted by SandWitch 1151d ago | opinion piece

Metal Gear Solid V[ita]: The Phantom Pain is no utopia

Have you heard of a mysterious game The Phantom Pain developed by fictional Moby Dick Studio? Sure you have. But the masterly made trailer gave so many question that we were left with just one in our minds – “what the heck is this game?” (Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, PS Vita, PS3, Xbox 360)

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jaredhart  +   1151d ago
Since I bought a Vita on Black Friday ($179.99), BRING IT ON!!!

Metal Gear Vita would be HUGE! A definite preorder.

Of course, this rumor would have to be true ...
-Mika-  +   1151d ago
I think it true because it wouldn't make sense to announce two console MGS games so soon. So that would mean Konami is officially milking the MGS name or this game might be exclusive to the Vita.
Kingofwiiu  +   1151d ago
Ofcourse the Vita is powerfull enough to run what we have seen of the Phantom pain

Let me just rephrase that a little.

The Sony PS vita is in no shape or form , even half as powerfull as what we have seen of the Phantom Pain. Unsurprisingly because it is a Handheld Console.

It's ps3 or maybe something to do with PS4
disturbing_flame  +   1151d ago
I think people should stop believing when infomations come from blogs with those poor speculations.

It's the best way to be disapointed if it's not true.

This article is only based on speculation, it has been written to generate clicks.
So if i were you i would be more hyped by games like Phantasy Star online 2, Tearaway or Soul sacrifice.

Those games can already be considered as potential best game of the year on Vita. No need to believe on a Metal Gear that would be exclusive to Vita. If it happens it's cool, but this article is just crap and is based on nothing that can be reliable.
Sanquine90  +   1151d ago
@kingofwii U : Is that because the wii U or 3ds are not getting this game? I think you where screaming if this game was coming to wii U:D
abc1233  +   1151d ago
Compare Uncharted GA to the first Uncharted, the Vita is comparable to the PS3. Now imagine what a developer with plenty of resources, commitment and time can do with the Vita.
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StanSmith  +   1151d ago

No... Just no.

As good as Uncharted GA looks, it does not match the first Uncharted game graphically. Anyone who thinks so, needs to go back and replay it.

The Vita is not comparable to the PS3 in power. This same nonsense was spread with the PSP with people saying it was as good as the PS2. It wasn't. These are handheld consoles. They are not even close in power to home consoles. That goes for 3DS as well as Vita.

Phantom Pain will never look as good as the trailer on Vita. Stop kidding yourselves. It won't happen.
HammadTheBeast  +   1151d ago
Surprisingly, less than 40 disagrees on a Mika comment...
shutUpAndTakeMyMoney  +   1150d ago
Why run a game on a dx11 pc(can't buy dx9 cards anymore) and say that it's same as 360 & ps3 to put it on vita? Lord.. They will say it runs on vita just to test it for 3ds before ultimately making it exclusively for iphone 6s.
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meetajhu  +   1150d ago

I like to know what your smoking.
Ju  +   1150d ago
It's not on PS3 level given fill rate and amount of polys it can render, but it is on par if not beyond what shaders can do. The Vita has unified shaders and some effects in UC:GA surpass what UC on the PS3 does, especially on lighting. Also, what I've seen so far, GA also pushes the amount of polygons a handheld device renders these days which is plenty to make this a high end experience, even if it won't match current consoles. MGS which pushes the Vita would certainly appreciated. It's quite capable of delivering console like experiences in a handheld format. Why all the hate?

That said, on-topic...MGS won't be Vita exclusive. The article is speculation. I don't believe any MGS from now on will be exclusive anyway. Konami already showed that the Fox Engine will support multiple platforms, the Vita being one of them.
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abc1233  +   1150d ago
@StanSmith: honestly? Go look at some side-by-side pictures of the two. It should be very clear that GA is on-par with DF and in some aspects such as lighting, ahead of it.

PSP wasn't on-par with PS2? Go look at Peace Walker, the graphics on that was easily on-par with PS2 games.

I'm not saying the phantom pain is a vita-exclusive, just that I'm not going to say that it definitely isn't
JasonKCK  +   1150d ago
i agree this game would be worth getting a vita 4. this is exactly what the vita needs not cod.
ritsuka666  +   1151d ago
No offense but this is a retarded article that contradicts itself in the end.
I don’t know why people are reading this as me saying its Vita exclusive…. all this article said was this game is most likely coming to Vita thats it, not exclusively.
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rpd123  +   1151d ago
It still wouldn't make sense for them to announce two MGS games for consoles. The most logical explanation is that it is a Vita exclusive.
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andibandit  +   1151d ago
Maybe its a card game
turgore  +   1151d ago
It looks to good for a vita game. It might be ported to vita, but what we saw definetely wasn't running on it.
WitWolfy  +   1150d ago
I hate this site... Everybody is a journalist!
Diver  +   1150d ago
i agree ritsu except this site loves idiot unsupported Sony doom articles. now a pro Sony product article appears and suddenly a question of the reliability of the writing takes center stage.

no siree bob what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Knight_Crawler  +   1151d ago
Saying this game is a Vita exclusive is just as crazy as saying that its a 3DS or Wii U exclusive -_- - this does not make any sense financially from a business point of view.

Konami will not be making anymore exclusive games, this was the reason for making the Fox Engine.

A new game coming from Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima will show off the new Fox Engine. This next-gen, multiplatform game engine was revealed in Konami's pre-E3 announcements today. Kojima says that this engine will be the future of Kojima Production games, and that it will let them move away from developing games made for a single platform. This new game, which may or may not have been shown in the presentation, will most likely not be a Metal Gear game. Don't cry.

The demonstration ran on an Xbox 360 dev kit. It featured a guy moving through a highly detailed jungle, where super-realistic leaves fall in the background. Also shown: A super shiny and muscular dog and horse. It's not much, but GameTrailers has a good look at what little there is.

Here's the important part: The next game from Kojima Productions will use this fancy new Fox Engine. We know this game will be multiplatform and will be created for a global audience.


Edit: Why disagree with facts...the Vita does not have a large enough install base for Konami to make a profit from by making an AAA game for the Vita only - also MGS 5 will be on as much platforms as possible because Konami needs to make money on the engine that they spent millions to build.
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DonMingos  +   1151d ago
If the Vita don't have a big install base to make profit, than an exclusive MGS would be enough to build that install base.

Exclusive MGS = System Seller

Just like any exclusive Monster Hunter
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abc1233  +   1151d ago
What makes even less sense financially is releasing two different console games around the same time.
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Braid  +   1151d ago
The disagrees are due to your statements below:

"This new game, which may or may not have been shown in the presentation, will most likely not be a Metal Gear game. Don't cry."

It's a Metal Gear game. The evidence is so overwhelming that stating it isn't an MGS game at this point, is just falsifying. Go to the so called Moby Dick website and you'll see a CLEAR picture of Big Boss which was not shown in the trailer, that's just him and you can't argue with that.

If it's Ground Zeroes or another game is up to debate, though. But what was shown is definitely, without a doubt, unarguably, as clear as sky, was Metal Gear related. It's so Metal Gear that we shouldn't even be talking about the possibility that it might be a new IP or some other game at this point.
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Mounce  +   1151d ago
I have a Vita. I'm basically waiting for an MGS to go on it like Acid 1 and 2 to PSP, like PO and PO+ to PSP, like Peacewalker to PSP.

To those that say it's a stupid idea to think of an MGS game on Vita? LOL. Peacewalker was unofficially labeled as MGS5 before future ideas came forth of GZ and 'Phantom Pain'.
EternalChaos  +   1151d ago
It appears to me that this is all pointless. Most of the people who are upset about this are people who do not have a Vita and you most likely are and forever will be anti-Vita. For everyone who's against this being a Vita game/exclusive. If turns out to be so, would you buy it or hate it still because it's on the Vita? I'm just curious?

As someone stated down below. If RE: Revelations were possible on the 3DS given its hardware specs compared to the Vita, how is this not possible with the Vita's specs?

If you really look at the photo's of "TPP" it really does not compare to MG:GZ's and is graphically far from GZ's. All those jaggies would be sad for a console title. I thought our consoles were way beyond that, are you saying I'm wrong or is this just a rushed title? If it's rushed then I can understand because our consoles are way more capable then that.

Lets be real here.
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MasterCornholio  +   1150d ago
I love the collection on the Vita so a brand new Metal Gear game would be great to me. I really hope that Kojima brings a new title to the Vita and i hope that they put Metal Gear Acid into the store because i really enjoyed (although many didnt) that title when i had my PSP.

P.S I dont believe that Phantom Pain is a title for the Vita but i do believe that Kojima will make something for Sony´s portable.

@Knight Crawler

"The demonstration ran on an Xbox 360 dev kit."

Then why didn´t Kojima mentioned that Ground Zeroes was being run on a PC equipped like a 360 if the Fox Engine is better on the 360 than the PS3?

"Kojima stated that the Ground Zeroes is not Metal Gear Solid 5, but it is a “prologue.” He also confirmed that the demo shown is running on a PC hardware speced out to be similar to the PS3 and that the final game should resemble the demo video."

Im really confused because the fox engine demo was shown off with a 360 dev kit but Ground Zeroes was done on a PC with a similar detail level to a PS3.
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Tctczach  +   1151d ago
I'm going to cry if this game is only for Vita. :(
cpayne93  +   1151d ago
And I'll cry with happiness. :)

Seriously, in my opinion the best mgs game is mgs1, followed by Peace Walker. The worst, in my opinion, is 4, though still an excellent game. So the platform only matters so much, my favorite is on the weakest while my least favorite is on the most powerful.

What I loved about PW was just how the missions were set up perfectly for portable play, but beyond that the game was the biggest mgs game yet, so many mission and so many weapons and other things to unlock. And its also one of the best co op games I have ever played.

It would be wierd if they are announcing another console one so soon after Ground Zeroes was announced anyway.

Edit: ABizzel while I do agree it was one of the best games this gen, I just think it was below the usual mgs standards. Some of the cutscenes got tedious and overdone, but what I really didn't like about the game was the forced action segments. There were several times you were forced to shoot your way through loads and loads of enemies, even turret sequences were put in the game. MGS is a stealth game, the action parts should be minimal. You would be shooting people from the motorcycle, back of a truck, on MG Rex, or just charging through with other npcs guns blazing. The other games had a little of this, but it was kept to a minimum. Also, compare the characters to past mgs characters. Most all the villains from the other games were pretty interesting, but the beauty things had no character at all, after you killed them you got to hear a sob story from drebin, but it was really hard to care at that point.
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ABizzel1  +   1151d ago
Definitely have to disagree. While MGS 4 was a cutscenes fest, it was still one of the most enjoyable / best games of this generation. It completely succeeded with it's gameplay, the problem was there was nearly as much cutscene as there was gameplay, and having to install every chapter sucked. But what was there was amazing. One of the few games worthy of the hype this gen.
kB0  +   1150d ago
The word bad and MGS 4 don't belong in the same sentence.

You just can't have ADD to play and enjoy MGS 4.
Sanquine90  +   1151d ago
Because you will buy a vita then? If it is a exclusive just save up for money. In 2013 their would be deffinetly a pricedrop. I already got 2 vita's and i am enjoying it. ( 2 vita's > European PSN account and Japanese account
Braid  +   1151d ago
Dude, just being curious here, why did you buy two systems to switch between accounts? While the process is not as easy as it is on PS3, it's perfectly possible to switch between your accounts on the same Vita.

Here's what you need to do: you just buy a big arse mem-card, download your stuff from both stores, delete your account (don't delete your personal data like saves and downloaded content, it's asked if you want to when you're about to delete your acc) and set up your second one, voila! The content bought from your previous account will be on the menu, but you won't be accessing them (gives you an error that the content is owned by another user). Now that your second account is logged in, download your stuff, play them, and when you want to go back to your previous account, delete the current one using the same method I mentioned above, leaving your personal data out from the deletion. All the content bought from your two accounts will be visible now in the menu, but you'll only access them when the correct one (the one you bought them on) is logged in. Your save games will not be deleted and you'll be able to use them whenever you jump back and forth with your accounts. Not an easy process deleting and setting up accounts all the time you need to switch is, but it at least works.

Just wanted to mention this, as some people might misunderstand what you wrote and take it as there's no way to use a Vita with two accounts. There obviously is a way, but it's just not as convenient as it is on PS3.
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Megaton  +   1151d ago
Who can look at what is clearly the Fox Engine and come to the conclusion that it's running on the Vita? Take your meds.
jukins  +   1151d ago
Um the fox engine was made for multiple platforms including the vita. As successful as the metal gear series has been on Sony handhelds, and consoles for that matter, is it really that hard to comprehend a vita title?
jony_dols  +   1151d ago
Look at Resident Evil Revelations on the 3DS (which has considerably lower hardware specs than the Vita) it graphically stands not far off Resident Evil 5 on consoles.

After seeing the demonstration of MGS4 on the Vita, I don't see how people can be so resolute as to think that there is no chance that The Phantom Pain could potentially be a Vita game.

There is some proof in this article, that at least hints at the possibility of MGS Vita title.
akhmenhawk17  +   1151d ago
Remember that the PS vita is only entering its second year, and that most of it's potential is yet to be discovered. and if there is one person ambitious enough to maximise the potential, it's Kojima.
2pacalypsenow  +   1151d ago
remember how good MGS2 look back in 2000-2001 yeah the vita still hasn't reached its graphics potential and Kojima always gets the best out of Playstation consoles
cpayne93  +   1151d ago
I don't know much about tech but look at games like Uncharted GA, there are games comparable to ps3 launch titles, so who's to say it can't be done? Heck GA actually has more detail in many areas than Uncharted 1.
ABizzel1  +   1151d ago
I doubt it's on Vita. If anything Ground Zero would be a PS3 / PSV game, while Phantom Pain will be a PS4 game.

That or one game is for PS4 and one game is for Nextbox like Neir. However, I hope that's not the case. Nothing against the PS4 or Xbox, but I'm only getting one at launch and the other when it builds up a large enough library, and most likely it'll be the PS4 at launch thanks to Sony's 1st party.

Or it could be the first MGS for Gaikai. Where it's playable on anything PS Certified. It's a showcase for how impressive the graphics are on Gaikai, and if it runs well shows Sony made an incredible investment (and from my experience with Gaikai it should run smoothly).

Speaking of Gaikai that's what's going to make the PS4's as powerful as any PC out there. If the hardware can't run it, it doesn't matter because Gaikai can. And Gaikai can easily do 720p @ 30fps, maybe Sony's been investing in getting it up to 1080p @ 60fps.
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jony_dols  +   1151d ago
I saw a graphical comparison between both The Phantom Pain & MGS Ground Zeros; and there was notably more jaggies & blander enviroments in TPP than Zeros, all which was skillfully hidden by Fox engines excellent lighting effects, also Mody Dick released their screenshots at Vita resolution rather than the standard 720p or 1080p.

Judging by MGS's previous success on the Vita, Kojima's tech demo of MGS4 running on PSV hardware & Kojima Productions being listed as a developer for the handheld by Sony. I think that their certainly is a 'possibility' that it's a Vita title.
ABizzel1  +   1150d ago

Didn't know that. Hmm. Then I guess it's possible. I mean it could be a cutscene, but a lot of that looked like Gameplay, and even though MGS4 was shown running on Vita I have a hard time believing the Vita's graphics are going to jump from Uncharted Golden Abyss which looks great (although a launch title) up to the Phantom Pain which looks like it's running on PC hardware above what the PS360 can do.

If it's running on Vita consider my mind as blown.

But knowing Kojima it could be an entire Interactive CG Movie.
TheOneWhoIsTornApart  +   1151d ago
I really feel that this game will be on the PS3 and 360 but ALSO on the Vita. I doubt that it will be exclusive to only the Vita. Kojima Did Open up a new studio in Los Angeles if anyone remembers so its not impossible to think it may be developed by them instead of Kojimas studio which would explain how this and GZ are being made similtaneously. Either way im very intrigued by this game.What do you guys think?
Yangus  +   1151d ago
This BS.

The Phantom Pain not Vita title.Its 100%!
Dream,dream, this game (MGS) coming home console.

Vita?C'Mon...its a joke.
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cpayne93  +   1151d ago
...100% what?
Kingofwiiu  +   1151d ago
100% impossible to run those graphics on the ps vita...
TongkatAli  +   1151d ago
@ Kingofwiiu maybe you meant to type 3DS ?
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WeskerChildReborned  +   1151d ago
@Kingofwiiu you're name is self explanatory and Vita hasn't even shown it's full potential yet.
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Kingofwiiu  +   1151d ago
No I meant PS vita
Obviously not the 3ds.

Don't you guys start acting like the PS vita is some sort of beast on par with a ps3. It's about half of a ps3 (if that).

(here comes the butthurt denial)

I've finished Uncharted Golden Abyss on PS vita and it looks graphically , inbetween a wii and a ps3. The framerate is really poor aswell...

There is no way something with the fidelity of TPP or GZ could run on a vita without DRAMATIC downscaling.

No offence to the vita , it's the most powerfull portable graphics on earth. But it's way shy of being on par with an xbox 360 or ps3...

@Cpayne. Yes the framerate was about 20-30FPS in my playthrough , almost ruined the look of the game.

If the PS vita is ''as powerfull as a ps3''
Why didn't Activision just simply port Blops 2 to the vita with a bit of downscaling ? would of been easier than building Declassified from the ground up which looks arguably worse than Black ops 1 on the wii.

Need for speed most wanted looks about 60% of the ps3 version , if that.

I'm not hating , just saying how it is. There is no way that any handheld can keep up with a ps3 or 360.

The ps vita has ''ps3 like'' graphics , I SUPPOSE.
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cpayne93  +   1151d ago
The framerate was poor? What? I ran into almost no framerate problems at all on my playthrough. Look at this site:

You will see that GA, a launch title on Vita, has more detail than Uncharted 1, a game which is an early ps3 game.
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WeskerChildReborned  +   1151d ago
your* i meant but yea let's just wait and see if it'll be on Vita or not.
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jony_dols  +   1151d ago

Actually Vicarious Visions (an in-house Activision studio) were porting over Black Ops 2 to the Vita, but Activision thought they wouldn't get it finished in time for a Christmas release, so they shifted over development to the 3rd rate studio formerly known as Nihilstic. On a side note - didn't the Black Ops 2 not look & perform better on the 360 than it did on the U, even though Nintendo's console is on paper more powerful, the same applies to Nihilistic's version of Black Ops.

Anyway what the hell is KingofWiiU doing on a Vita thread?! Kojima won't touch the U even though he has Rising & Ground Zeros in-development for the 360/PS3 & PC! That's how much faith developers (and a Japanese one at that!) have in Nintendo's dud.
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DigitalRaptor  +   1151d ago
100% not possible?

Think again buddy. Look at how good the graphics are for this game on 3DS, and it's much, much lower spec handheld than Vita.
jon1234  +   1151d ago
says the guy with one bubble...
Aghashie  +   1151d ago
u know... I really never understood very well that bubble thing on this site. honestly, mind to explain it to me?
jon1234  +   1151d ago
lets say someone comes to thecomment section spouting a bunch of crap, people can vote to take away bubbles from that person, the less bubbles a person has, the less they can say in the comment section, most people have 3 to 4, which only allows them 3 to 4 comments per article
TongkatAli  +   1151d ago
I can see the Vita getting its own version. Kojima loves Sony portables if we going by history.
WeskerChildReborned  +   1151d ago
Now that i look at the gameplay, it actually does look like it could be for the Vita and if so, this game will sell alot.
animegamingnerd  +   1151d ago
wouldn't mind it being on the vita cause it as a killer app that isn't a port/remake
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Sanquine90  +   1151d ago
As owner of 2 vita's i will be crying of joy. Vita haters will hate this if this rumor is true. I dont get it why people hate a console? I own all consoles but i prefer portable gaming atm ( Time, not enough time)
Deusthousand  +   1151d ago
Do you really need 2 vitas? I would love to hear the logic behind that
akhmenhawk17  +   1151d ago
lets look at all the info:
tpp looks worse than GZ. (more jaggies)
The ending says mgsv rather than mgs5 (they never used Roman numerals before).
The screenshots were originally in psvita resolution.
Kojima did show mgs4 running on the vita.
the HD collection is on the vita.
there were two popular mgs titles on the PSP.
the whale looks like a uvita whale.

My guess: its a vita title.
bunt-custardly  +   1151d ago
The official Moby Dick Studio website lists Xbox 360 and PS3. If this is coming to vita it will be via transfarring.

Everyone wins.

This is just repeating from the other news last week with the added news of the Uvita similarity which was posted today. Yawn!
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Dark-soul  +   1151d ago
Stop kidding yourself it will never be on vita, dream if you have nothing better to do.
meatysausage  +   1151d ago
reading through the comments, isnt this the probelm with the vita's perception, ITS NOT MEANT TO BE COMPARED WITH THE PS3. its a graphically strong portable device. An awesome one at that.
To all those negative talkers, its inevitable that MGS will be a vita game, And wait for kojima to unleash with a stunning game.

was Phantom pain actual gameplay graphics or enhanced with some digital help? anyone know
DonMingos  +   1151d ago
It was allready confirmed that is all in-game footage... but we can't assume anything is true
meatysausage  +   1151d ago
well it does seem a bit too advanced for the vita so far but who knows, im certain mgs will be out for vita. Kojima is just a troll
Bradicas  +   1151d ago
Gta v(ita)?
meatysausage  +   1151d ago
what stops us believing that there wont be, we hardly know anything about gta 5, so who is to say there isnt already plans/development.
hawkeyejonjon  +   1151d ago
@Bradicas well rockstar always uses roman numerals to number GTA. GTA I, GTA II, GTA III, GTA IV, and GTA V.
Kojima never used roman numerals to number his games. MGS 1, MGS 2, MGS 3, and MGS 4
GTA coming to vita is a possibility. Rockstar wants to do it but to busy with GTA V at the moment.
DJ  +   1151d ago
Scalability is the goal of all major game engines now. Expect this game on PS Vita, PS3, Xbox 360, PS Orbis and Xbox 8.
Deusthousand  +   1151d ago
Im sure some of these "genuises" commenting on this article would say that the ps3 couldn't do Uncharted 3 graphics when the first UC came out, but between those 2 mgs4 came out...visual masterpiece. And peace walker is a handheld technical masterpiece. Dont sleep on Hideo sheeple. And comparing a launch title to something in development a yr after launch is remedial thinking imo
Pillsbury1  +   1151d ago
They have released metal gears on psp, why is it so hard to believe it will come gain to vita? I have wanted a psv mgs and gta since it was announced!
PS4isKing_82  +   1151d ago
I think the vita will get one but not those same quality graphics from that trailer. It would obviously have to be downgraded. Similar to need for speed most wanted that came out. The vita version looks nice but it has alot of downgrading and objects missing from the console versions like buildings and detailed rock formations missing. But again, I know a vita MGS game could work. Just not the same console graphics we saw in that trailer last week on spike.
Snookies12  +   1150d ago
Was it confirmed that those were in-game? The Vita can easily have CGI graphics like that, it's just in-game it wouldn't be plausible (for now)...
PS4isKing_82  +   1150d ago
MGS never used cgi. It's always ran off the in game graphics engine. Although I'm sure we probably saw a high end pc version on spike, it still always runs off actual graphics regardless. Kojima has never used cgi for cut scenes in MGS. The new fox engine is just very impressive as you can see.
Snookies12  +   1150d ago
@shonen_82 - Ah, good point... For some reason that never occurred to me that Kojima never uses CGI for his games. Yeah, if it looks like this I really don't think the Vita can run it. I mean, it's possible, but I doubt this early on. I'm sure later in its life it'll be able to play games like these however. I guess we'll see though. When MGS4 came out it was astounding to me, how wonderful it looked. Kojima knows how to make the best of a system, that's for sure.
Braid  +   1151d ago
I just would like to point out, without assuming anything, that Kojima actually had shown MGS4 running on a Vita before. Just type "metal gear solid 4 NGP" on YouTube and you'll see the video listed there.

Now, if that device is capable of running a gorgeous looking PS3 game (with some visual downgrades obviously, but it does the job in the end) why wouldn't it be able to run a visually downgraded version of Ground Zeroes (and Phantom Pain is said to look a bit worse than GZ) which is yet "another" PS3 game? While the game looks phenomenal, it may just be some great programming and Kojima's wondrous Fox Engine.

Have you seen Liberation on Vita? If not, watch some gameplay videos on YouTube, I guarantee you that it's almost looking as good as AC1. Golden Abyss was good but AC Liberation is looking even better.

And also, bear in my that this just might be a personal favor of Kojima to Sony as well. We all know that Vita needs more great games, and what better game could there be to sell thousands of consoles other than MGS? Japanese people do look after each other in business, it's just good ethics for them. Why do you think Twin Snakes was created in the first place, and it was never ported to another sytstem?

While I don't mean to imply that this game is 100% a Vita game, I don't think that the possibility is so of question as some of you might think. Let's just don't assume anything for now and say bold things that might embarrass us in the future, I believe they won't keep this game up any longer now that they attracted enough attention on the game- an official statement might be near. Let's wait for the January issues of gaming magazines, especially Famitsu and Official Playsation Magazine and hope that there will be any new information regarding what Phantom Pain is.
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Soldierone  +   1150d ago
People are ignoring it, or finding excuses as to why that doesn't matter. There is no point in explaining it to them, just let the game end up on Vita and watch them all whine about something else lol

Honestly we only need one thing to prove the point. The several interviews with Kojima not only stating how he supports Vita (MGS4 on Vita) but stating very clearly "all future games will have cross play features" Its called Transfarring, and he stated ALL games they release will have it.
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Soldierone  +   1150d ago
I'm really disappointed in gamers these days. If a rumor like this came out a while ago, EVERYONE would be so happy and willing help prove how its possible. today its "nah not powerful enough, vita is dead!" what? Why AS A GAMER would you not want this game to come to Vita?

Not only that but people are reading it as exclusive. Did Sony, let alone Kojima when he stated MULTIPLE times that Fox Engine WORKS ON VITA, not make it clear they want cross compatible games with Vita? Just because its on Vita doesn't mean you won't get to see it, geez!

It's like all the Vita haters are deathly scared of this game because if it goes to Vita then suddenly they are tempted to buy a real handheld. Its ridiculous. I honestly hope it does end up on Vita just to make all the naysayers shut up.

And honestly, the game doesn't look as ground breaking as you think. I love MGS, but the reason you think it looks so "godly" is because of the opening shot of the doctor....
Kingthrash360  +   1150d ago
IMO this can very well be on the vita. Anythings possible with kojima working on it.
Also why wouldn't they make it an exclusive? They can if they want, theres a lot of mgs exclusives on the psp soooo why not. Ground zeros was announced then this soon after isn't kojima like anyway. Mgs4 released a very long time ago, ya know, before ps3 trophies where in. Ground zeros comes out what 6,7 years later. In between thos times numorus mgs for the psp were released.
My last point is kojimas number one thing that gets his off is the suprize and amazement he gets from his work. I'm still amazed at how good mgs4 look compared to today's games and still majorly suprized about the whole mgs2 is a raiden game thing. So ill sit back and wait for what he has up his sleeve this time.
0pie  +   1150d ago
i dont want to lose my precious time reading a shity article about assumption.
I prefer to wait until an official announcement and people should not hope too much about it until official announcement otherwise, it will end up being like ffvii remake and Everyone will start crying about something that will never happen.
Max-Zorin  +   1150d ago
All this drama over hand held games. Why?
Braid  +   1150d ago
To prove a point, maybe, that Kojima can fool even the best of us and trick us into thinking that the game is indeed a PS3/360 title and just shock the world with a reveal that it was actually running on Vita? Who wouldn't declare him the god of programming, and Vita "the mini PS3" if this comes true? And they wouldn't even have to deal with game's marketing, the shock will just do its job and everyone will be hyped to buy a Vita along with MGS Vita: Phantom Pain. Not to mention this would boost the system sales up dramatically. It'd be a win for Sony, and also a win for Kojima (and Fox Engine, as other developers would get in line to buy a Fox Engine license for their games).

Sounds like a genius plan to me.
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tubers  +   1150d ago
And the big hint that it isn't a VITA game..


The main teaser site blatantly shows PS3 and 360 logos.
extermin8or  +   1150d ago
The thing alot of people int this thread seem to be missing is that we've seen 1st gen vita games, compare launch ps3 and 360 games to what we had even in 2008/2009, then look what we have now... as for the person talking about DX11 graphics cards we don't actually know what was in that PC unit, kojima has already said before the fox engine runs perfectly in it's current form on vita he's just yet to show us proof of this (as far as we are aware) and that video is in a fairly low resolution, the same as vita's originally actually as where the screen shots. If you enlarged them and made them higher resolution without touching them up I believe you'd suddenlly see thos graphics break down pretty fast, there are jaggy edges, the lighting isn't anywhere near as good as any other fox engine video etc. Look at NFS that runs exceptionally for a 1st gen port, fully open world :o
Kos-Mos  +   1150d ago
No, and the game can`t be an utopia. I don`t think the author of this article really knows what utopia means.
millzy102  +   1150d ago
I play vita and I've compared the golden abyss mgs hd collection and littlebigplannet vita to uncharted 1 mgs hd collection and littlebigplannet 1 on ps3. now on its own vita looks amazing but as soon as you load a simalar ps3 game and actually compare the graphics for your self you see how washed down vita graphics are (but this is expected as its a handheld) now with that said I find it hard to believe as a vita owner that phantom pain can run on vita exactly how it was shown in trailer, I'm not saying its impossible but I would be very surprised if it could, I have no doubts of a mgs game on vita but I don't think its phantom pain.
solidboss07  +   1150d ago
This is what 's happening regarding Metal Gear Solid in the near future. All titles shall use Fox Engine, which is very good in regards to scaling to suit platforms, say PS Vita verses PS3 and 360. And then the Fox Engine, with a bit of work, can make the jump to next-gen as Fox Engine 2. Kojima always delivers on Graphics and Hollywood production values, regardless of everything else. Portable Ops was very close to PS2 and Peace Walker much more so. Remember that 1st real example of MGS 4 with the ending comments about the MKII's cell processor and winning 'the Console Wars'. Kojima delivered in the graphics, - just not in the open war zone game play. Still, its a AAA title, Kojima delivers visuals (and sound) on all hardware. The difference visually between GZ and The Phantom Pain is glaring. Ground Zeroes will be on PS3 and 360, (probably Pc) but it will not be possible to scale down to PS Vita because of the game assets used, regardless of Fox Engine. The Phantom Pain is going to come to home consoles eventually after launching on Vita. They will be able to improve the visuals in the transition to PS3 and 360, but due to game assets it won't be on a par with Ground Zeroes, regardless of Fox Engine.
Ritsujun  +   1150d ago
TPP - 360 and PS3
stop barking
Tzuno  +   1150d ago
It's not a MGS game i saw some monsters in the trailer and i mean big ones. I think is just a new ip. Don't know why i suddenly thought at FEAR.
supergravity  +   1150d ago
both chrome & kaspersky warned me that known MALWARE was embedded in the articles site. Needless to say I didn't get a chance to read the article.
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